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Title: S21R3: Misano Race Chat
Post by: Wally on March 06, 2018, 11:10:59 PM
Mar 13: Misano World Circuit (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/misano-mwc.11821/) (2 x 15 laps)

Weather forecast is 23 and 29 with very light wind - similar to Blackwood.

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Title: Re: S21R3: Misano Race Chat
Post by: Phil on March 07, 2018, 08:04:09 AM
Any chance of a better AI fast lane?
Title: Re: S21R3: Misano Race Chat
Post by: Wally on March 07, 2018, 09:52:24 AM
Any chance of a better AI fast lane?
Not from me. I don't know the first thing about AI files.
Title: Re: S21R3: Misano Race Chat
Post by: Phil on March 10, 2018, 09:41:53 AM
Any chance of a better AI fast lane?
What needs 'fixing'?

At 100% they are too easy to catch. The track last week they did 1:10's which is well below the pace.
Title: Re: S21R3: Misano Race Chat
Post by: Phil on March 10, 2018, 10:23:58 AM
I just wanna say what a great track for VR. This track is very well optimised and it's butter smooth on the FPS. Compared to Blackwood this is like night and day.
Title: Re: S21R3: Misano Race Chat
Post by: Wally on March 10, 2018, 12:00:25 PM
I just wanna say what a great track for VR. This track is very well optimised and it's butter smooth on the FPS. Compared to Blackwood this is like night and day.
Its a fairly uncluttered track, so I'm not surprised.
Title: Re: S21R3: Misano Race Chat
Post by: Gratulin on March 10, 2018, 12:04:20 PM
Any chance of a better AI fast lane?
What needs 'fixing'?

At 100% they are too easy to catch. The track last week they did 1:10's which is well below the pace.
Out of curiosity what lap times are you doing?
Title: Re: S21R3: Misano Race Chat
Post by: Phil on March 10, 2018, 12:14:00 PM
I haven't had a chance on this track. My Oculus service was having issues and not starting all this week. It started about four days ago.
It turns out there's a little patch to fix it but I didn't see it and I'm in the process of reinstalling the software.
I'll have it up and running shortly and reply back with lap times. In qualify I usually land around the middle of the pack so I'm not the fastest guy.


It's time I learn how to fix or improve AI laptimes. I noticed setups do help, in some cases a setup change pulled a second or two on each lap which was interesting to noticed.
Title: S21R3: Misano Race Chat
Post by: Gratulin on March 11, 2018, 08:50:35 AM
After struggling with braking and turn-in and acceleration out of corners and, well, just about everything for the first couple of rounds I decided to go searching for a setup that might work better. I was trying out the Camber Extravaganza and getting worser and worser! Since no one at XGN Tuesdays posts their setups I decided to give The Setup Market another go.

Turns out they have an App now - http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/the-setup-market.10149/

I found a setup and loaded it. It felt fantastic and I got down to the 1:38s. Wanting to learn what the setup magic was I did a comparison with the default setup. Turns out the only thing the setup changed from default was the traction control set to 9.

So, there you go. Learnt absolutely nothing in the whole exercise
Title: Re: S21R3: Misano Race Chat
Post by: Wally on March 11, 2018, 09:00:05 AM
LOL Gratulin. It sure feels like that sometimes chasing the setup silver bullet. What complicates it is that as you put in more laps, you get faster and faster anyway regardless of setup changes.

The trick here seems to be to make a lot of use of the red and green painted concrete, where you can without triggering a cut. It pays to experiment to see just how much you can get away with here.
Title: Re: S21R3: Misano Race Chat
Post by: Wally on March 11, 2018, 09:07:49 AM
Interesting to watch a few laps of the Blancpain GT3 here, to see how much runoff they're using.
[youtube]9NePQGo_bxM?t=57m51s[/youtube]

And how can this not make you excited for ACC :D
Title: Re: S21R3: Misano Race Chat
Post by: killagorilla on March 11, 2018, 10:01:53 AM
After struggling with braking and turn-in and acceleration out of corners and, well, just about everything for the first couple of rounds I decided to go searching for a setup that might work better. I was trying out the Camber Extravaganza and getting worser and worser! Since no one at XGN Tuesdays posts their setups I decided to give The Setup Market another go.

Turns out they have an App now - http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/the-setup-market.10149/

I found a setup and loaded it. It felt fantastic and I got down to the 1:38s. Wanting to learn what the setup magic was I did a comparison with the default setup. Turns out the only thing the setup changed from default was the traction control set to 9.
So, there you go. Learnt absolutely nothing in the whole exercise

Haha, that's a funny one. So what would you say if I told you that I've done a 1:37.5 on traction control set to 2?
I don't know if I've driven that car before, but it feels great on that track.
Really does seem like the whole setup tweaking exercise is a waste of time ;-)
Title: Re: S21R3: Misano Race Chat
Post by: Wally on March 12, 2018, 03:33:12 PM
After struggling with braking and turn-in and acceleration out of corners and, well, just about everything for the first couple of rounds I decided to go searching for a setup that might work better. I was trying out the Camber Extravaganza and getting worser and worser! Since no one at XGN Tuesdays posts their setups I decided to give The Setup Market another go.

Turns out they have an App now - http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/the-setup-market.10149/ (http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/the-setup-market.10149/)

I found a setup and loaded it. It felt fantastic and I got down to the 1:38s. Wanting to learn what the setup magic was I did a comparison with the default setup. Turns out the only thing the setup changed from default was the traction control set to 9.

So, there you go. Learnt absolutely nothing in the whole exercise
This is a really good article on racecar setup. https://www.paradigmshiftracing.com/racing-basics/step-by-step-race-car-setup-guide
It's a good, common sense introduction to setup concepts, starting from the most important settings to optimise grip - tyre pressure pressures and camber, and moving into areas in a "nuts and bolts" style rather than being overly theoretical. I recommend having a read.
Title: Re: S21R3: Misano Race Chat
Post by: Wally on March 12, 2018, 04:32:14 PM
I just took 1 second off my PB. A bit more toe out (0 in setup), and TC 2.
Title: Re: S21R3: Misano Race Chat
Post by: RussG on March 12, 2018, 10:44:09 PM
I just took 1 second off my PB. A bit more toe out (0 in setup), and TC 2.

You mean I can beat you by even more  ;D :o :P
http://52.63.217.129:50041/lapstat?currservers=acserver2 (http://52.63.217.129:50041/lapstat?currservers=acserver2)
Title: Re: S21R3: Misano Race Chat
Post by: Wally on March 12, 2018, 11:54:44 PM
I just took 1 second off my PB. A bit more toe out (0 in setup), and TC 2.

You mean I can beat you by even more  ;D :o :P
http://52.63.217.129:50041/lapstat?currservers=acserver2 (http://52.63.217.129:50041/lapstat?currservers=acserver2)
Nice time Russ.
Title: Re: S21R3: Misano Race Chat
Post by: RussG on March 13, 2018, 12:11:00 AM
I just took 1 second off my PB. A bit more toe out (0 in setup), and TC 2.

You mean I can beat you by even more  ;D :o :P
http://52.63.217.129:50041/lapstat?currservers=acserver2 (http://52.63.217.129:50041/lapstat?currservers=acserver2)
Nice time Russ.

Thanks mate,
but I know it's not a one lap time that does the business - it's consistency. Here's hoping I can have some tomorrow  :D ;D
Title: Re: S21R3: Misano Race Chat
Post by: Matthew111 on March 13, 2018, 04:06:07 PM
Havent done any laps here yet but here is my blackwood setup I wasn't a huge fan of it but hey it seemed to serve me well last round. Id say will need the tyre pressures adjusted for here
Title: Re: S21R3: Misano Race Chat
Post by: Joe on March 13, 2018, 09:26:25 PM
Sorry for the no show. Selling my house in the UK and had a tonne of paperwork to get sorted  :o
Title: Re: S21R3: Misano Race Chat
Post by: Wally on March 13, 2018, 10:51:49 PM
Sorry for the no show. Selling my house in the UK and had a tonne of paperwork to get sorted  :o
The lesson is... never sell a house on a Tuesday :)
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