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Title: S27R1: Paul Ricard WTCC Race Chat
Post by: Wally on February 27, 2019, 07:24:18 PM
Congratulations to me on pole and three race wins. Prior to this round, I've had 5 wins out of 342 races!

RACE 1 RESULTS (https://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2019/03/s27r1-sports-cars-at-paul-ricard-wtcc.html)
RACE 2 RESULTS (https://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2019/03/s27r1-sports-cars-at-paul-ricard-wtcc_5.html)
RACE 3 RESULTS (https://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2019/03/s27r1-sports-cars-at-paul-ricard-wtcc_21.html)
SEASON STANDINGS (https://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2019/03/season-27-standings.html)
SEASON STATS (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nu52lWM6_TIRBEGCTF32BxLe8mobfsCFpd_wOeuxpXI/edit?usp=sharing)

Round Points
Wally   76
Phil.8   62
Mael   60
ab156   55
Freezer   54
Bacchulum   51
RussG   49
killagorilla   47
bradc   40
Dave O   36
AbleArcher83   33
JamieP   33
Keith   33
Joe   20


Lap 1 Penalties
Race 1
The turn 1 impacts are a bit hard to unravel. Bradc was turning in tight from the left of track, and moved too far to the inside of the corner. At the same time, RussG was under locked brakes on the inside and hit the side of Brad, and then on into ab156, spinning him. Because ab156 was so disadvantaged, a half fine of $150 goes to each of Brad (for not staying on his side of the track in turn 1) and Russ (for hitting Brad under locked brakes).

BradC ran into the back of Killagorilla and spun him - $300 fine.

Race 2
Impact between BradC and AbleArcher was side by side mid-corner – racing incident.

Season Standings
1. Wally, 76
2. Phil.8, 62
3. Mael, 60



The first round of the "rent a sports car" season sees the entry level Nissan Skyline, BMW Z4 and Ford Mustang battling it out at Paul Ricard WTCC.

Three sprints of 11 laps. The (real world) weather is cool... 15, 18 and 18 degrees.

Track downloads are here: https://xgnsimracing.com.au/season/schedule (https://xgnsimracing.com.au/season/schedule)
Car dealer (rent a car by 6:00pm Tuesday) is here: https://xgnsimracing.com.au/car-dealer (https://xgnsimracing.com.au/car-dealer)
Title: Re: S27R1: Paul Ricard WTCC Race Chat
Post by: Mael on March 01, 2019, 03:36:44 PM
Laptimes looks fairly close so far.
Title: Re: S27R1: Paul Ricard WTCC Race Chat
Post by: Wally on March 01, 2019, 06:57:26 PM
Laptimes looks fairly close so far.
I'm actually leaning towards the Nissan so far, but I want to do a bit more testing.


Also, Phil hasn't done any Mustang laps yet  :o
Title: Re: S27R1: Paul Ricard WTCC Race Chat
Post by: Wally on March 02, 2019, 01:48:22 PM
Aaaaaand Phil's the only person comfortably in the 45's so far.
Title: Re: S27R1: Paul Ricard WTCC Race Chat
Post by: Bacchulum on March 02, 2019, 03:11:11 PM
Look at the date and time Wally, I don't think there was anything comfortable about that lap. :P
Title: Re: S27R1: Paul Ricard WTCC Race Chat
Post by: Phil.8 on March 02, 2019, 08:00:47 PM
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Look at the date and time Wally, I don't think there was anything comfortable about that lap. :P

LOL  True :)  Kcender and Matthew will beat that pretty easy I reckon
Title: Re: S27R1: Paul Ricard WTCC Race Chat
Post by: Wally on March 03, 2019, 10:24:40 AM
You and me Phil...

(http://xgn.com.au/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2507.0;attach=1693;image)

(https://media2.giphy.com/media/1ZDofubnlnPYDSy8nE/200.webp?cid=3640f6095c7b102766396a436753739b)
Title: Re: S27R1: Paul Ricard WTCC Race Chat
Post by: buellersdayoff on March 03, 2019, 11:00:22 AM
https://youtu.be/482DAgv8kjg the battle intensifies
Title: Re: S27R1: Paul Ricard WTCC Race Chat
Post by: Wally on March 03, 2019, 04:12:15 PM
What a strange video  :o
Title: Re: S27R1: Paul Ricard WTCC Race Chat
Post by: Phil.8 on March 03, 2019, 06:27:46 PM
Very close Wally
Title: Re: S27R1: Paul Ricard WTCC Race Chat
Post by: Mael on March 03, 2019, 07:10:20 PM
Old age must be catching up to you guys .   ;D

(https://i.imgur.com/oRdOm81.png)
Title: Re: S27R1: Paul Ricard WTCC Race Chat
Post by: Wally on March 03, 2019, 10:34:20 PM
Nice one Mael!
Title: Re: S27R1: Paul Ricard WTCC Race Chat
Post by: Wally on March 04, 2019, 11:59:30 AM
Aaaaaand Phil's the only person comfortably in the 45's so far.
Make that 44's now.



Title: Re: S27R1: Paul Ricard WTCC Race Chat
Post by: killagorilla on March 04, 2019, 08:44:11 PM
No idea how you can do 1:45's with the Z4 or the Nissan...I'm doing 1:48's. Nissan drives nice (but slow with me behind the steering wheel), the Z4 has bad oversteering at entries...and the Mustang just wants to go straight  ;)
Doesn't look good for me.
Title: Re: S27R1: Paul Ricard WTCC Race Chat
Post by: Wally on March 04, 2019, 09:41:23 PM
No idea how you can do 1:45's with the Z4 or the Nissan...I'm doing 1:48's. Nissan drives nice (but slow with me behind the steering wheel), the Z4 has bad oversteering at entries...and the Mustang just wants to go straight  ;)
Doesn't look good for me.
Set up wise in the Nissan, I've gone full negative camber and no rear wing.
Title: Re: S27R1: Paul Ricard WTCC Race Chat
Post by: Freezer on March 04, 2019, 10:44:18 PM
No idea how you can do 1:45's with the Z4 or the Nissan...I'm doing 1:48's. Nissan drives nice (but slow with me behind the steering wheel), the Z4 has bad oversteering at entries...and the Mustang just wants to go straight  ;)
Doesn't look good for me.
Set up wise in the Nissan, I've gone full negative camber and no rear wing.
In my Nissan I have a lot of negative tow and no rear wing!
Title: Re: S27R1: Paul Ricard WTCC Race Chat
Post by: Joe on March 04, 2019, 10:47:34 PM
No idea how you can do 1:45's with the Z4 or the Nissan...I'm doing 1:48's. Nissan drives nice (but slow with me behind the steering wheel), the Z4 has bad oversteering at entries...and the Mustang just wants to go straight  ;)
Doesn't look good for me.
Set up wise in the Nissan, I've gone full negative camber and no rear wing.

Did exactly the same. Also TC off. Did a few laps tonight it's a fun car to drive here.
Title: Re: S27R1: Paul Ricard WTCC Race Chat
Post by: killagorilla on March 04, 2019, 11:00:06 PM
No idea how you can do 1:45's with the Z4 or the Nissan...I'm doing 1:48's. Nissan drives nice (but slow with me behind the steering wheel), the Z4 has bad oversteering at entries...and the Mustang just wants to go straight  ;)
Doesn't look good for me.
Set up wise in the Nissan, I've gone full negative camber and no rear wing.
Cheers Wally, that was good advice. Still slow compared to server times, but it got me 1.8s after a few laps.
Title: Re: S27R1: Paul Ricard WTCC Race Chat
Post by: killagorilla on March 05, 2019, 10:44:09 AM
Cheers Freezer and Joe. I changed from the Mustang back to the Nissan and will try that tonight. My PB is at 1:46.7 so I got to find some more time...
Title: Re: S27R1: Paul Ricard WTCC Race Chat
Post by: Wally on March 05, 2019, 06:13:50 PM
Server's up.
Title: Re: S27R1: Paul Ricard WTCC Race Chat
Post by: rob on March 05, 2019, 07:47:38 PM
I'll be out again Wally.

The PC clock was resetting every time I started the PC so I thought that's an easy fix, I'll just replace the CMOS battery. Now the PC won't boot at all, just stalls at the Windows Logo.

I didn't realize when I got into SIM racing that they also simulated the frustration of real racing!! Bah!
Title: Re: S27R1: Paul Ricard WTCC Race Chat
Post by: Wally on March 05, 2019, 08:38:57 PM
I'll be out again Wally.

The PC clock was resetting every time I started the PC so I thought that's an easy fix, I'll just replace the CMOS battery. Now the PC won't boot at all, just stalls at the Windows Logo.

I didn't realize when I got into SIM racing that they also simulated the frustration of real racing!! Bah!
Unfortunately you are simulating the ups and downs!
Title: Re: S27R1: Paul Ricard WTCC Race Chat
Post by: Joe on March 05, 2019, 10:20:44 PM
Checked the replay and I definitely went from 2nd to 1st and blew the engine on that last race. I'm 98% sure I put it in 3rd both times, so like Phil said I'll have to try and re-calibrate the h-shifter. Annoying though as had good pace this week.
Title: Re: S27R1: Paul Ricard WTCC Race Chat
Post by: Ablearcher83 on March 05, 2019, 10:41:49 PM
Thanks Guys, fun night with some tight racing. Only a roll on the second race start was a bit annoying, but that's racing.
Title: Re: S27R1: Paul Ricard WTCC Race Chat
Post by: JamieP on March 05, 2019, 10:46:44 PM
Checked the replay and I definitely went from 2nd to 1st and blew the engine on that last race. I'm 98% sure I put it in 3rd both times, so like Phil said I'll have to try and re-calibrate the h-shifter. Annoying though as had good pace this week.

I had the same issue in practice earlier in the week using the bodnar adaptor with the G27 shifter. Did a fresh calibration and no issues tonight. Not with the shifter anyway
Title: Re: S27R1: Paul Ricard WTCC Race Chat
Post by: Wally on March 05, 2019, 11:21:55 PM
Results are up.
Title: Re: S27R1: Paul Ricard WTCC Race Chat
Post by: Wally on March 06, 2019, 08:12:26 AM
I surprised myself by getting pole, but thankfully that set up my night. I didn't have any of the fastest laps, but was able to be the most consistent in every race, just putting in clean, fast laps that saw me not really challenged expect for some pressure from Phil's Mustang in race 2.
Title: Re: S27R1: Paul Ricard WTCC Race Chat
Post by: Joe on March 06, 2019, 08:43:31 AM
I surprised myself by getting pole, but thankfully that set up my night. I didn't have any of the fastest laps, but was able to be the most consistent in every race, just putting in clean, fast laps that saw me not really challenged expect for some pressure from Phil's Mustang in race 2.

Nice work Wally. Start position seems key here as it was pretty hard going to makes passes.
Title: Re: S27R1: Paul Ricard WTCC Race Chat
Post by: Bird on March 06, 2019, 10:11:31 AM
Oops, I'm sorry for the no show, I've completely messed up the days.  They seem to blur together lately, a bit. :/
Title: Re: S27R1: Paul Ricard WTCC Race Chat
Post by: Wally on March 06, 2019, 10:57:20 AM
Oops, I'm sorry for the no show, I've completely messed up the days.  They seem to blur together lately, a bit. :/
I thought you might have had a brain fade :)
Title: Re: S27R1: Paul Ricard WTCC Race Chat
Post by: Freezer on March 06, 2019, 02:39:20 PM
Good nights racing last night.  Cars were fairly evenly matched!
R1 got away cleanly and dropped into 5th were I stayed for the rest of the race.
R2 I made a small tweak to the front and rear toe and was able to find 0.5 seconds and even cracked the fastest lap.
I got onto the back of Mael and followed him for most of the race. My nissan was marginally quicker up the straights
but not enough to really make a dive.  It was only on the last lap when a slip by Mael allowed me to get through for 3rd.
R3 I made a concerted effort off the start to get in front of Phil's mustang and was successful.  From there I drove hard to create a gap in
the bends so as not to be passed on the straights.  This went on until lap 7 with Phil even getting by once at the end of the back straight
but I was able to switch back under him and hold position, however a messy T1 on lap 7 saw me lose 4 spots on that lap!!
To rub it in I got a cut penalty to finish 8th.
Nissan turned out to be pretty balanced and good to drive!
Title: Re: S27R1: Paul Ricard WTCC Race Chat
Post by: Mael on March 06, 2019, 03:42:23 PM
Very enjoyable racing, did not expect the cars to be so close in terms of race pace. Had some great battle with too many drivers to mention. The only time I felt a bit aggrieved was when AB blasted past me during the last race, he found a way to put that mustang's power down better than the other Mustang drivers! At least I got my own back on my team mate during race 3  ;D

Congrads to Wally, that was one of the most dominating performances in a while.
Title: Re: S27R1: Paul Ricard WTCC Race Chat
Post by: killagorilla on March 06, 2019, 05:23:50 PM
Congrats to Wally for pole and 3 wins...wow, not bad at all...and he hasn't even congratulated himself  :)
Wally, keeping Phil in the Mustang behind you must have been really hard work.
I was pretty happy with my qualy time and found myself further up the front end of the grid than expected.
I had a good start as well, but all my hopes for a good result last night were destroyed in lap one when I was put back at the end of the field.
Later Keith shot me into Brad...well, sorry about this little discussion there during the race...anyway, if I had to pick someone suffering from Keith's late braking my choice would have been you, Brad  :) ...call it childish or not...I don't care.
Close and less rough racing with Bacchulum and Russ so overall it was great driving this Nissan.
It seemed to me you didn't get much speed for extra$$ spent. A great thing about the Mustang is its mass I find, other cars seem to be just bouncing off :-) Will be interesting to see battles between Mustang's and these little Abarth 500's...oh, oh...

Title: Re: S27R1: Paul Ricard WTCC Race Chat
Post by: RussG on March 07, 2019, 05:50:51 PM
The turn 1 impacts are a bit hard to unravel. Bradc was turning in tight from the left of track, and moved too far to the inside of the corner. At the same time, RussG was under locked brakes on the inside and hit the side of Brad, and then on into ab156, spinning him. Because ab156 was so disadvantaged, a half fine of $150 goes to each of Brad (for not staying on his side of the track in turn 1) and Russ (for hitting Brad under locked brakes).

No locked brakes and I strongly debate who hit who. Just trying to mind my own business, watching other people and hoping to get through T1 without being hit.
JamieP was flashing down the inside, then I lost sight of him so I was leaving a little bit of space on the inside (in case he was there somewhere) and turning in from a shallow line so I was obviously going to run out a bit.
Some people just don't seem to have any respect at T1 and just try to barge through. But Ho humm, it's the same every race ...
Title: Re: S27R1: Paul Ricard WTCC Race Chat
Post by: Wally on March 07, 2019, 06:16:22 PM
The turn 1 impacts are a bit hard to unravel. Bradc was turning in tight from the left of track, and moved too far to the inside of the corner. At the same time, RussG was under locked brakes on the inside and hit the side of Brad, and then on into ab156, spinning him. Because ab156 was so disadvantaged, a half fine of $150 goes to each of Brad (for not staying on his side of the track in turn 1) and Russ (for hitting Brad under locked brakes).

No locked brakes and I strongly debate who hit who. Just trying to mind my own business, watching other people and hoping to get through T1 without being hit.
JamieP was flashing down the inside, then I lost sight of him so I was leaving a little bit of space on the inside (in case he was there somewhere) and turning in from a shallow line so I was obviously going to run out a bit.
Some people just don't seem to have any respect at T1 and just try to barge through. But Ho humm, it's the same every race ...
I was going by the fact that your brakes were on 100% for quite a long time into the corner in a straight line in the replay (and the pedals app). The whole point of all of this scrutiny and penalties is to have a clean opening couple of corners, and given the number of drivers and the number of races for what are very few penalties, really, the standard is pretty good. It always looks worse from the seat of the driver who's involved in one of the few incidents.
Title: Re: S27R1: Paul Ricard WTCC Race Chat
Post by: JamieP on March 09, 2019, 04:28:08 PM
The turn 1 impacts are a bit hard to unravel. Bradc was turning in tight from the left of track, and moved too far to the inside of the corner. At the same time, RussG was under locked brakes on the inside and hit the side of Brad, and then on into ab156, spinning him. Because ab156 was so disadvantaged, a half fine of $150 goes to each of Brad (for not staying on his side of the track in turn 1) and Russ (for hitting Brad under locked brakes).

No locked brakes and I strongly debate who hit who. Just trying to mind my own business, watching other people and hoping to get through T1 without being hit.
JamieP was flashing down the inside, then I lost sight of him so I was leaving a little bit of space on the inside (in case he was there somewhere) and turning in from a shallow line so I was obviously going to run out a bit.
Some people just don't seem to have any respect at T1 and just try to barge through. But Ho humm, it's the same every race ...

Had a great start in race one but only had room on the extreme inside and seeing that there was no scenario that was going to end well trying to force myself into turn 1, I jumped on the brakes very early and limped myself around the very inside of the corner. Sadly I managed to gently clip he rear bar of a car coming around the outside so very sorry about that. The rest of the race was OK just slow.

Had another good start and a tidier effort and better line into turn 1. About 8 laps in I got a good run into the first sweeper and the car in front a not so good run and planned to use the run to move down the inside of the next one but I underestimated the closing speed and had to get hard on the anchors when I realised there was going to be a hit. I still had an impact and I am sorry, again, I ended up sliding across the track and into the wall. No deposit back for that car.

3rd race I just took it easy and worked on my lap consistancy. Was better, faster and third last instead of second last.

I'll be trying to have a much cleaner round next time out. On the plus side I was half a second or more faster in each race.
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