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Title: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: grat on January 10, 2018, 11:34:44 AM
As Phil suggested, I am opening a thread about my PC. Currents specs are:

CPU: i7-4790 @4.00GHz now mildly overclocked at 4.40GHz with Overclock Genie heavily overclocked to 4.6GHz
RAM: 16 GB DDR3 @1600Mhz, now overclocked to some @2000 (not completely sure of this number)
GPU: EVGA GEFORCE GTX 980, I think it came in overclocked and I have overclocked it a bit more today.

Computer is running clean of any garbage.

What's the issue:
I've got thius Lenovo Mixed Reality device and I managed to make it run smooth at 90fps with decent quality when in single play. But in a race with many cars, even if I disable PP, reflections, shadows to low and so on, I get lows of 50 or so when in traffic + close to pits.

Next thing I'll do:

Try to overclock the CPU a bit. If all fails, the question is:

IF I SPEND 1K+ on a 1080Ti, will I get 90fps smooth in a race on this Lenovo mixed reality thingy? If so, I'll buy it. If not, then it would be pretty pointless anyway ;)
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: Phil.8 on January 10, 2018, 12:46:36 PM
what sort of ram is it ?  ddr 3 or 4 at what speed

I know this link is about the oculus, but the second last post may b e helpful in diagnosis
https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/6szv2e/assetto_corsa_game_running_at_45_fps_with_only_40/
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: rooshooter on January 10, 2018, 03:15:51 PM
Use "Render Stats" embedded  App to show CPU usage. I am running a 1st generation i7 870 (2009) and MB of same vintage with a MSI 1080ti FE to run my 4K screen (3840 x2160),  PP off ( sun glare etc, too realistic with it on) and other settings turned down a bit, but I am not CPU bound. FPS is usually around 80 to 100.
Use AC "video benchmark" to try different video settings, it also gives CPU utilisation.
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: grat on January 10, 2018, 03:26:47 PM
what sort of ram is it ?  ddr 3 or 4 at what speed

I know this link is about the oculus, but the second last post may b e helpful in diagnosis
https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/6szv2e/assetto_corsa_game_running_at_45_fps_with_only_40/
DDR3 1600Mhz. I have also edited the opening post.
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: grat on January 10, 2018, 03:28:30 PM
Use "Render Stats" embedded  App to show CPU usage. I am running a 1st generation i7 870 (2009) and MB of same vintage with a MSI 1080ti FE to run my 4K screen (3840 x2160),  PP off ( sun glare etc, too realistic with it on) and other settings turned down a bit, but I am not CPU bound. FPS is usually around 80 to 100.
Use AC "video benchmark" to try different video settings, it also gives CPU utilisation.
Thanks. I have not checked today, but I never (really never) remember the CPU line to show anything that raised my attention... like 30%? stuff like that. Maybe with full grid of AI was more, but nothing like 90%.
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: grat on January 10, 2018, 03:29:55 PM
Update: I have overclocked (I think) the CPU very mildly using the overclock genie... possibly it was already like that. It said it was going to go at 4.40GHz. There was possibly a tiny bit of improvement. But I am talking of peanuts...
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: grat on January 10, 2018, 03:59:08 PM
Use "Render Stats" embedded  App to show CPU usage. I am running a 1st generation i7 870 (2009) and MB of same vintage with a MSI 1080ti FE to run my 4K screen (3840 x2160),  PP off ( sun glare etc, too realistic with it on) and other settings turned down a bit, but I am not CPU bound. FPS is usually around 80 to 100.
Use AC "video benchmark" to try different video settings, it also gives CPU utilisation.
Thanks. I have not checked today, but I never (really never) remember the CPU line to show anything that raised my attention... like 30%? stuff like that. Maybe with full grid of AI was more, but nothing like 90%.
Checked now: I do not see CPU anymore in render stats. Anyway:

1. CPU usage is below 60% when I test using the replay from yesterday's race.
2. The fact that fps is the same in replay (no physics) and actual racing suggests to me that it is not the CPU.

I am not sure about how to check if it is the RAM though...
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: Bird on January 10, 2018, 04:14:16 PM
moving this over from the other thread

A bit of a stretch but I wonder if your issue is caused by the security update for Spectre,
See details here, especially on he older CPU performance hit part: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/microsoft-intel-slowdown-old-chips,36293.html
Nope, unlikely.  It has marginal effect on gaming according to tests.
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: Bird on January 10, 2018, 04:27:35 PM
also moving over

The 1080Ti is a very strong card, but if you want the maximum, pay a little extra for something that's guaranteed to run fast.  I run mine with a 4k screen and it doesn't break a sweat, well outperforming the previous 970SLI setup.
Eh, here's the list of components.  Keep in mind I'm using the asus bios' simple "once-click" overclock (no bs, I have not had to look at anything in the bios but set one config) to run the 6700k at 15%, so @4.6 GHz.

Only the RAM is running at base clock, that's something to address in the future I just need the time - and inclination - to do so, hehe.

Corsair Carbide 600Q
ASUS Maximus 9 Hero
i7-6700k
NZXT Kraken X62 cooler
G.Skill Trident Z 32GB (2x 16GB) DDR4 3200MHz
Samsung 960 Evo (nvme)
ZOTAC GTX 1080 TI AMP Extreme
Seasonic Prime 850W Titanium
Bird! Thank you! Unfortunately you would have to break it up into baby-sized pieces for me to understand. Are you saying I should buy the ZOTAC AMP Extreme version or you are saying I should buy an i7-6700k or that I should overclock the CPU (lost overclocking settings a year or so ago and I am not good enough to do them myself, I fear, but your 1 click option sounds nice)?

Well, you can wait with the purchase to ride the waves of the new chip and/or see if it's significantly better, worth buying, or if the 1080Ti goes down and become better value.  But if it comes out in march, you can wait till april at least for things to settle.  At that point you'll be able to make a decision.    Or you can just buy something now.   It's impossible to say how much better off you maybe in a few months' time.  I've played that game before, and realised that there's always a bit more you can wait for the prices to drop...:)

The zotac card is o/c'ed already, btw.  Manual gfx card o/c usually brings marginal benefits in my experience.

I usually say; to get significant increase in performance, it's always a good idea to ensure parts match - more or less - to avoid bottlenecks.   
However, for gaming, clock speed is king and you've got a decent enough CPU there - so I think you maybe OK.  Ram is a bit slow, but that usually does not make much of a difference. (Ram amount CAN, but you're well endowed at 16GB)

Maybe try a bit of o/c on the CPU, as long as it runs stable and you can cool it, it will be fine (for a few years, at which point you'll chuck it anyway).
I have (and had) o/c'ed CPU's running here for years, 24/7 sometimes (but certainly during work hours) without issues.


If, however, you've got 'misc' issues, eg random split-second slowdowns every once in a while (I had that!) it sadly is best to replace the whole computer. 
There is magic in the bits, sometimes you just can't tell why something is happening.  I've seen funny stuff, eg when back in the 386 days I've worked in a computer hardware store, and we had a floppy drive that would not work for the client.   At least not until you took it to the shop, it worked fine there.  Back to the client; it would not work (in the same computer!).   

Sometimes you just have to replace stuff, get a clear start, and hope for the best.  Also operating systems can play up (windows especially) so it's sometimes good to do a clean reinstall if "misc" problems arise and you can't pinpoint them.  Which is often the case, hehe.

Edit: sorry I just read your opening post in full, silly me.   So it's a simple performance issue.  Still two things can play there; CPU not being able to feed the GPU enough data, or indeed GPU slowness - or indeed both.   Or even that Lenovo thing may cause issues.   These very specific things are nigh impossible to guess, the only way to know it is to test it.  Can you borrow a 1080Ti? :)

You can try to log cpu/gpu data, btw, and see if the usage is close to 100% on either.  That may shed some light on the issue, but - again, just in my experience - it's not conclusive.
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: rooshooter on January 10, 2018, 04:29:39 PM
Use "Render Stats" embedded  App to show CPU usage. I am running a 1st generation i7 870 (2009) and MB of same vintage with a MSI 1080ti FE to run my 4K screen (3840 x2160),  PP off ( sun glare etc, too realistic with it on) and other settings turned down a bit, but I am not CPU bound. FPS is usually around 80 to 100.
Use AC "video benchmark" to try different video settings, it also gives CPU utilisation.
Thanks. I have not checked today, but I never (really never) remember the CPU line to show anything that raised my attention... like 30%? stuff like that. Maybe with full grid of AI was more, but nothing like 90%.
Checked now: I do not see CPU anymore in render stats. Anyway:

1. CPU usage is below 60% when I test using the replay from yesterday's race.
2. The fact that fps is the same in replay (no physics) and actual racing suggests to me that it is not the CPU.

I am not sure about how to check if it is the RAM though...
Render stats CPU is "Main-T".
I only have 8GB of mem.
If you have PP effects on , turn OFF Fastapprox AA, can cause a FPS hit.
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: grat on January 10, 2018, 05:25:33 PM
Ok, I thought it could be Main-T (as in thread). That one is constantly in the 96-98% range watching replays, but it is the same pretty much whether it is a single car of the full grid. And it does not really vary: it kind of stays constant to a number, say 97.5%, while the fps go from 65 to 90.
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: rooshooter on January 10, 2018, 05:37:20 PM
Ok, I thought it could be Main-T (as in thread). That one is constantly in the 96-98% range watching replays, but it is the same pretty much whether it is a single car of the full grid. And it does not really vary: it kind of stays constant to a number, say 97.5%, while the fps go from 65 to 90.
That is way too high !!!! I suggest you download CCleaner (free addition) go through all options (including registry clean : backup before applying registry fix). Also check program startup option and disable all but the essential programs.
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: grat on January 10, 2018, 05:48:41 PM
Ok, I thought it could be Main-T (as in thread). That one is constantly in the 96-98% range watching replays, but it is the same pretty much whether it is a single car of the full grid. And it does not really vary: it kind of stays constant to a number, say 97.5%, while the fps go from 65 to 90.
That is way too high !!!! I suggest you download CCleaner (free addition) go through all options (including registry clean : backup before applying registry fix). Also check program startup option and disable all but the essential programs.
Ok, will do now. Though I was a bit pessimistic. Further tests say 92 to 97% is the whole range.
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: buellersdayoff on January 10, 2018, 05:51:17 PM
Which windows version? As suggested ccleaner is good for cleaning up the system, disable apps/software that you don't need from start up, also make sure you don't have a bunch of stuff running in the background
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: grat on January 10, 2018, 05:53:11 PM
Which windows version? As suggested ccleaner is good for cleaning up the system, disable apps/software that you don't need from start up, also make sure you don't have a bunch of stuff running in the background
Windows 10.

I have found this directly from Stefano Casillo about MAIN_T: http://www.racedepartment.com/threads/cpu-usage-vs-main_t-value.137934/
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: grat on January 10, 2018, 05:57:15 PM
Which windows version? As suggested ccleaner is good for cleaning up the system, disable apps/software that you don't need from start up, also make sure you don't have a bunch of stuff running in the background
to be honest, this PC is here only for this, so there is basically no app running on the background and almost everything is disabled from start-up. Will try anyway.
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: buellersdayoff on January 10, 2018, 06:06:26 PM
Which windows version? As suggested ccleaner is good for cleaning up the system, disable apps/software that you don't need from start up, also make sure you don't have a bunch of stuff running in the background
to be honest, this PC is here only for this, so there is basically no app running on the background and almost everything is disabled from start-up. Will try anyway.
Go to task manager, start up tab and disable stuff you know you don't need. Might not be much if as you said it's a sim rig only. I'm thinking this vr thingy you have as a bit too much for the 980
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: rooshooter on January 10, 2018, 06:07:06 PM
https://ocul.us/compat-tool
Download this tool and see what the results are.
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: rooshooter on January 10, 2018, 06:17:57 PM
This test is better, my FPS average was about 150 with the final result as Quality "Very High"
http://store.steampowered.com/app/323910/SteamVR_Performance_Test/
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: grat on January 10, 2018, 06:26:39 PM
all tests passed with flying colors. Very high.
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: grat on January 10, 2018, 06:34:31 PM
I have done the cleaning (my computer is now basically empty) and fixed all registry issues until it could not find any. then restarted and... all as before: MAIN_T in the mid-90s.
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: grat on January 10, 2018, 06:59:00 PM
UPDATE: I am currently stress-testing for a CPU overclock at 4.6GHz. Pray for me...
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: rooshooter on January 10, 2018, 07:28:23 PM
UPDATE: I am currently stress-testing for a CPU overclock at 4.6GHz. Pray for me...
My opinion is the problem is not CPU related , the problem lies elsewhere, exactly where I am not sure, but possibly with the software used to run the VR headset.
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: grat on January 10, 2018, 07:42:21 PM
UPDATE: I am currently stress-testing for a CPU overclock at 4.6GHz. Pray for me...
My opinion is the problem is not CPU related , the problem lies elsewhere, exactly where I am not sure, but possibly with the software used to run the VR headset.
Interesting.... so I am back at playing with it ;)
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: grat on January 10, 2018, 08:35:22 PM
END OF DAY REPORT:
1. my CPU is now overclocked at 4.6Ghz.
2. My GPU si now further overclocked, but not by much.
3. I have played with all settings I have found on steamVR and Windows Mixed Reality.
4. MAIN_T is a tricky parameter. What I know is that when I am in single, it runs around 97%, but fps is stable at 90 (though not every single time, as sometime I need to start the game twice... go figure). So, yes, it is high... but maybe that's not much the point.

At this point I am very confused as for what to do. I could try to overclock the RAM, but none of you suggested it. On the other hand, it is quite unclear that an upgrade in GPU would straightforwardly solve the problem. right?

All in all, the main lesson again is that the XGN community is really amazing. Did we solve the problem? No. Did you make me feel like I have amazing friends who are there to help me. Yes. Very much.

THANK YOU!
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: Bird on January 10, 2018, 08:57:18 PM
This test is better, my FPS average was about 150 with the final result as Quality "Very High"
http://store.steampowered.com/app/323910/SteamVR_Performance_Test/

I thought I'd give it a try for science.   Here's the result.  Interesting that it does not detect my cpu o/c nor the gfx card correctly.

(https://i.imgur.com/9CBVA8E.png)
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: Phil.8 on January 10, 2018, 09:07:12 PM
Nice overclock :D
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: grat on January 10, 2018, 10:52:54 PM
Nice overclock :D
but useless,... apparently... :(
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: Phil.8 on January 10, 2018, 11:26:13 PM
I found the overclocks I did today only gained like 5 - 10 fps, I think overclocking is probably only worth the hassle if ya pc is shit and you not wanting to upgrade it
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: grat on January 11, 2018, 12:08:41 AM
Yep. The problem is that now I am more confused then before. I tried a trick from the web to bypass the windows "cliff house" (a sketchy one) and it gains me another few fps, especially on the lows... they say it avoids saving staff on the VRAM.

All in all: I now do not know what to do. I preferred when I thought it was simply my GPU. At least a 1K could have solved it. Now instead it is less clear to me that it is a simple "GPU is not good enough" issue...
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: rooshooter on January 11, 2018, 06:50:24 AM
Try this Grat (does not work on my PC because I am running Win 7)
Windows Mixed Reality PC Check
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/p/windows-mixed-reality-pc-check/9nzvl19n7cnc
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: buellersdayoff on January 11, 2018, 08:55:46 AM
It's a pain to diagnose stuff like this and even worse when you aren't in front of the pc yourself lol
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: rooshooter on January 11, 2018, 09:26:40 AM
It's a pain to diagnose stuff like this and even worse when you aren't in front of the pc yourself lol
You are not wrong but I pride myself in not being beaten, I have been playing man against machine for 50 years , starting with a Burroughs hand operated ,single total mechanical adding machine, and finishing with a Burroughs B7700 large scale mainframe (repair to component level). PCs are toys in comparison, bring it on ;D ;D ;D. I have yet to concede defeat 8)
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: Phil.8 on January 11, 2018, 11:42:17 AM
how did you overclock go, what program did you check it with  prime95 ?
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: grat on January 11, 2018, 12:58:32 PM
how did you overclock go, what program did you check it with  prime95 ?
Yes, prime95. I started from the genie overclock at 4.4 and moved up to 4.6. Prime95 finished in 5 minutes without boiling the cpu (twice). 4.7 and 4.8 crash very fast, but I did not dare to go above 1.29v, so maybe there was something more I could have done.
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: grat on January 11, 2018, 04:45:27 PM
Hi All,

I hope this may be useful. It's a screenshot at the end of the worst 4 seconds of the replay from the race, when my fps drop in the 60s. As you can see, CPU is running very well, with no thread above 50% occupancy. You can also see that the GPU is also well below 100%. In fact, it drops (!!!) when things go bad (just before the screenshot). So something is not feeding the GPU fast enough... no?
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: rooshooter on January 11, 2018, 05:06:01 PM
Why would disk 0 E: be at 100% utilisation? I presume this is where AC resides . A screen shot when FPS is ok  to compare the disk utilisation could be good.
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: buellersdayoff on January 11, 2018, 06:23:38 PM
Hi All,

I hope this may be useful. It's a screenshot at the end of the worst 4 seconds of the replay from the race, when my fps drop in the 60s. As you can see, CPU is running very well, with no thread above 50% occupancy. You can also see that the GPU is also well below 100%. In fact, it drops (!!!) when things go bad (just before the screenshot). So something is not feeding the GPU fast enough... no?
Have set prefer maximum performance in nvidia control panel for ac?
Why would disk 0 E: be at 100% utilisation? I presume this is where AC resides . A screen shot when FPS is ok  to compare the disk utilisation could be good.
I recently moved ac to an ssd to be sure there was no bottleneck from the old spinner, the old hard drives can sit at 100% easily...I know you know, just saying lol
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: grat on January 11, 2018, 06:27:48 PM
Have set prefer maximum performance in nvidia control panel for ac?
I am pretty sure but will doublecheck again. Surely I had it at some point, both for general settings and AC specific.
I recently moved ac to an ssd to be sure there was no bottleneck from the old spinner, the old hard drives can sit at 100% easily...I know you know, just saying lol
I think it is because I have the replay on the slow hard drive. The rest of AC is on SSD.
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: grat on January 11, 2018, 06:30:16 PM
UPDATE: I have found a bit of time to also overclock the RAM. I am a bit less sure of what I have done but now some clock multiplier is at 20, while it was at 13.

I think it made a bit of an effect. So the two things which seem to have done at least something are:

1. bypassing the rendering of the cliff house.
2. bumping up the RAM clock.
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: buellersdayoff on January 11, 2018, 06:47:21 PM
UPDATE: I have found a bit of time to also overclock the RAM. I am a bit less sure of what I have done but now some clock multiplier is at 20, while it was at 13.

I think it made a bit of an effect. So the two things which seem to have done at least something are:

1. bypassing the rendering of the cliff house.
2. bumping up the RAM clock.
If you've done a "clean install" of nvidia driver recently it will reset all settings in the control panel. Ram overclock can also be helpful with the minimum frame rates in some titles, but be sure to do thorough stability testing because apparently it can cause corruption in the os/data, use memtest
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: grat on January 11, 2018, 10:28:59 PM
I have checked the nvidia settings. All fine.

I will try to run memtest. Thank you.
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: buellersdayoff on January 11, 2018, 11:23:05 PM
http://hcidesign.com/memtest/
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: grat on January 12, 2018, 12:17:03 AM
http://hcidesign.com/memtest/
currently running test 2. First passed with flying colors. :)

Thank you so much, mate!
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: grat on January 12, 2018, 07:47:17 AM
I let memtest go on for almost 3 hours. Did almost 2 complete passes. 0 errors. I would be satisfied, unless you tell me it should run for longer.
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: buellersdayoff on January 12, 2018, 08:31:50 AM
I let memtest go on for almost 3 hours. Did almost 2 complete passes. 0 errors. I would be satisfied, unless you tell me it should run for longer.
Not sure why, maybe it's faster but, With an eight thread cpu you need to open eight instances of the memtest app, total value of ram tested needs to be I think 75%, so 75% of total ram divided by eight is the value you put into each instance (this might be over doing it, I just remember reading it somewhere). Hci website says testing to 100% will catch all errors and testing to 400% will catch any intermittent failures. Sounds like you're good anyways
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: rooshooter on January 12, 2018, 08:45:06 AM
Have you tested reduced Graphic Options  to see if 90+ FPS is achievable?
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: grat on January 12, 2018, 08:54:46 AM
Have you tested reduced Graphic Options  to see if 90+ FPS is achievable?
I have done all sorts of tests with graphics option. I am impressed by how little I gain. I even tried world detail minimum, AF off, AA off, shadows off, PP off, reflections off, mirrors very low, and supersampling at 1. It looked like a gme from the nineties, but it still does not stay stable at 90 all the time in the replay of the race. The lows are less bad though, as it really rarely get below 80 or so, but it still does...
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: Bird on January 12, 2018, 09:24:15 AM
Have you tested reduced Graphic Options  to see if 90+ FPS is achievable?
I have done all sorts of tests with graphics option. I am impressed by how little I gain. I even tried world detail minimum, AF off, AA off, shadows off, PP off, reflections off, mirrors very low, and supersampling at 1. It looked like a gme from the nineties, but it still does not stay stable at 90 all the time in the replay of the race. The lows are less bad though, as it really rarely get below 80 or so, but it still does...
Hm...doesn't that indicate that the problem is not at the gfx card, but somewhere before that? 
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: rooshooter on January 12, 2018, 09:35:58 AM
We have basically established it is not CPU or GPU, you said AC resides on the SSD, does that include all tracks, cars etc?
You could try this
http://ccm.net/faq/43000-adjust-default-virtual-memory-size-on-windows-10#change-default-virtual-memory-size-on-wind
may help.
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: buellersdayoff on January 12, 2018, 10:09:49 AM
When I get back from my holiday we'll stick my 1080ti in your rig and that way you can see if it's worth spending the money on one. I'm running out of ideas otherwise lol
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: rooshooter on January 12, 2018, 11:04:25 AM
Is your USB system overloaded? Is you Power Supply large enough? Have you changed the case? ;D (only joking)
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: buellersdayoff on January 12, 2018, 12:54:18 PM
Is your USB system overloaded? Is you Power Supply large enough? Have you changed the case? ;D (only joking)
LOL, what about that "disable full screen optimization" Phil mentioned in the Windows thread
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: buellersdayoff on January 12, 2018, 01:18:15 PM
New nvidia driver 390.65 January 9th
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: Joe on January 12, 2018, 05:26:07 PM
Are you getting the same thing on other tracks? Maybe you can just put it down to a poorly optimized mod track?
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: grat on January 12, 2018, 05:44:48 PM
Is your USB system overloaded? Is you Power Supply large enough? Have you changed the case? ;D (only joking)
USB overloaded?... I am not sure. I'll google it and try to see what it means ;)

Power supply? It's 650W. I have no clue as to whether this is large or small... :(
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: grat on January 12, 2018, 05:45:45 PM
New nvidia driver 390.65 January 9th
Should I go for it. I am on 388.43 because usually the latest drivers give me a bit of mess, so I try to stay on stable but slightly older drivers. I'll do what you say, if you say, though ;)
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: grat on January 12, 2018, 05:47:16 PM
Are you getting the same thing on other tracks? Maybe you can just put it down to a poorly optimized mod track?
I was able to test with the replay from Tor Poznan, and it was nto much different. Perhaps I can find an older replay in another track. I am trying to isolate graphics from physics, hence the choice of testing on replays---AI we know is heavy on CPUs.
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: Phil.8 on January 12, 2018, 05:54:30 PM
http://xgn.com.au/index.php?topic=2074
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: grat on January 12, 2018, 05:59:22 PM
http://xgn.com.au/index.php?topic=2074
I know Phil! I always follow your suggestions, so I had taken all the game bars etc off when you first suggested it. Then yesterday I have CCleaned them by uninstalling all sorts of Windows games stuff (maybe I went too far, but you never know ;)).... and.... well, why do you think I am on 388.43? You guys suggested it! Basically I am an XGN experiment: my PC is the result of all the suggestions contained in this forum :D
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: Phil.8 on January 12, 2018, 06:10:15 PM
cool I was just posting in case you missed it,  I just installed that new driver but not tested yet,  but I have read some good reports on it, try it and at worst will have to do a roll back
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: grat on January 12, 2018, 06:16:49 PM
cool I was just posting in case you missed it,  I just installed that new driver but not tested yet,  but I have read some good reports on it, try it and at worst will have to do a roll back
Alrighty! Will do tonight!
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: grat on January 12, 2018, 06:41:41 PM
TODAY'S UPDATE 1: there was an update of steamVR for Windows mixed reality. It seems to have done a bit. Not perfect, but a bit. Now I'll update the NVidia drivers using DDU...
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: buellersdayoff on January 12, 2018, 06:47:09 PM
New nvidia driver 390.65 January 9th
Should I go for it. I am on 388.43 because usually the latest drivers give me a bit of mess, so I try to stay on stable but slightly older drivers. I'll do what you say, if you say, though ;)
I've only tried a few games and it seems good, but I haven't tried AC with it yet
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: grat on January 12, 2018, 07:05:49 PM
New nvidia driver 390.65 January 9th
Should I go for it. I am on 388.43 because usually the latest drivers give me a bit of mess, so I try to stay on stable but slightly older drivers. I'll do what you say, if you say, though ;)
I've only tried a few games and it seems good, but I haven't tried AC with it yet
My first impression is that it is a tiny tiny bit worse...

EDIT: ...or just exactly the same.
Title: Re: The grat's PC thread!
Post by: buellersdayoff on January 12, 2018, 07:31:04 PM
New nvidia driver 390.65 January 9th
Should I go for it. I am on 388.43 because usually the latest drivers give me a bit of mess, so I try to stay on stable but slightly older drivers. I'll do what you say, if you say, though ;)
I've only tried a few games and it seems good, but I haven't tried AC with it yet
My first impression is that it is a tiny tiny bit worse...

EDIT: ...or just exactly the same.
I was hoping there might some improvement in it for this bleeding edge stuff like vr, oh well
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