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Title: Fun Run 22-03-2018
Post by: Phil.8 on March 15, 2018, 07:39:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGNiXGX2nLU

Car
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1FwqzoVAc6rw5YyZ6HFOn2lD2p9mDENcE&export=download

Track
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Sx3d5BnY3DI2vKANyYpmgQvL_tH0MMkj/view
Title: Re: Fun Run 22-03-2018
Post by: Seanus on March 15, 2018, 09:44:23 PM
This one Phil.
Brickyard 1960s (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Sx3d5BnY3DI2vKANyYpmgQvL_tH0MMkj)
Title: Re: Fun Run 22-03-2018
Post by: Phil.8 on March 15, 2018, 09:49:48 PM
This one Phil.
Brickyard 1960s (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Sx3d5BnY3DI2vKANyYpmgQvL_tH0MMkj)

ok
Title: Re: Fun Run 22-03-2018
Post by: rooshooter on March 16, 2018, 07:12:29 AM
This combo needs to be driven Speedway style in the corners. I will find and publish here the setup Bacchulum came up with to make it easier to get around this track , turning left, turning left, a low 60 seconds lap is on the money.

Like the song Phil 8).
Title: Re: Fun Run 22-03-2018
Post by: Bacchulum on March 16, 2018, 08:00:22 AM
A new, camber adjusted setup will be posted soon. ;)
Title: Re: Fun Run 22-03-2018
Post by: rooshooter on March 16, 2018, 09:54:02 AM
All good Phil.

This Fun Run would be a lot FUNNER with a big field!!!! If some more Tuesdays guys could manage to race as well that would be great :) :) :)

If you have ever wondered what it would be like to drive a Speedway car now is your chance to find out. With a top speed of close to 300kph these cars are a real delight. They require a bit of practice to get used to the "lift off oversteer" and "power on oversteer" , very gentle use of the "loud pedal" is also needed, but you will soon get the hang of it  8) 8) 8).

Big thankyou to Seanus for making this combo possible.
Title: Re: Fun Run 22-03-2018
Post by: Bacchulum on March 16, 2018, 09:13:08 PM
Afore mentioned setup(s).
Theoretically the Assym should be quicker, as you can achieve higher minimum apex speeds.
But, the Tite set is more stable and gives confidence to push on entry and exit.
So it's horses for courses.

They're for the Kurtis but I think all the cars physics are the same, so it should transfer (I hope, g0d can confirm).


{caveat}
A wise man once said anything before a "but" is bullshit, I set my best time with the Tite set ;)
Title: Re: Fun Run 22-03-2018
Post by: Gratulin on March 17, 2018, 11:26:41 AM
Am I missing something or do these things really only have 2 gears?
Title: Re: Fun Run 22-03-2018
Post by: Bacchulum on March 17, 2018, 12:04:12 PM
With a rolling start, why would you need more? :P
Title: Re: Fun Run 22-03-2018
Post by: Seanus on March 17, 2018, 12:32:20 PM
... all the cars physics are the same...

Confirmed
Title: Re: Fun Run 22-03-2018
Post by: Gratulin on March 17, 2018, 01:31:25 PM
With a rolling start, why would you need more? :P
Ha! Why not only one then ;)
Title: Re: Fun Run 22-03-2018
Post by: rooshooter on March 17, 2018, 01:48:00 PM
With a rolling start, why would you need more? :P
Ha! Why not only one then ;)
Because you would burn the clutch out getting it moving  ::) remember it has a top speed of 300kph, so 2 gears is the minimum for such a speed range.
Title: Re: Fun Run 22-03-2018
Post by: Wally on March 17, 2018, 02:54:14 PM
With a rolling start, why would you need more? :P
Ha! Why not only one then ;)
Because you would burn the clutch out getting it moving  ::) remember it has a top speed of 300kph, so 2 gears is the minimum for such a speed range.
Watch this from 1:30... starting a Corvette from 5th gear. Who needs more than 1 gear? :)
[youtube]Ko9kzyqW-l8[/youtube]
Title: Re: Fun Run 22-03-2018
Post by: rooshooter on March 17, 2018, 04:06:15 PM
Only on TopGear  :D, but you need and engine with lots of "torques" to achieve this feat , the "offy" engine in the Indy Roadster had very few "torques" but could spin to 9000 rpm  ;D 8)
Title: Re: Fun Run 22-03-2018
Post by: Bacchulum on March 17, 2018, 04:12:55 PM
Afore mentioned setup(s).
Theoretically the Assym should be quicker, as you can achieve higher minimum apex speeds.
But, the Tite set is more stable and gives confidence to push on entry and exit.
So it's horses for courses.

They're for the Kurtis but I think all the cars physics are the same, so it should transfer (I hope, g0d can confirm).


{caveat}
A wise man once said anything before a "but" is bullshit, I set my best time with the Tite set ;)
I woke up this morning (@0430) with Prof. Julius Sumner Miller in my head (alongside a hangover) saying, "Why is it so?". :-\
The only explanation I could think of was exit traction outweighs apex speed.
So I spent the day exploiting that idea and the fruits of my labour is a 63s. 8)
Here's my new, logical. setup:
Title: Re: Fun Run 22-03-2018
Post by: rooshooter on March 17, 2018, 05:02:04 PM
I had been on track practicing and already noticed the 63s lap before viewing this post, 8) and was suitable impressed. I have now got my time down to 1.04.668 and was happy with that so far, I am now keen to do some more laps with your JSM setup ;D ;D ;D. The noise of these beasts would not be good with a hangover :D.
Thanks Bacchulum 8).
Title: Re: Fun Run 22-03-2018
Post by: Bacchulum on March 17, 2018, 05:04:14 PM
One thing the real drivers never had, a volume knob on their headset. ;)
Title: Re: Fun Run 22-03-2018
Post by: Seanus on March 17, 2018, 06:02:54 PM
I knew 63s was on the cards, I had one going by delta timing but as always I can only ever get three out of any four corners right on a given lap!

What's the odds on Phil punching out a 62 or better?
Title: Re: Fun Run 22-03-2018
Post by: Bacchulum on March 17, 2018, 06:18:42 PM
What's the odds on Phil punching out a 62 or better?
I would've had Phil for 61, except he'll be at the GP, I believe (the reason for the fun run).
But he does normally have a crack on Wednesday, so maybe...... :-X
Title: Re: Fun Run 22-03-2018
Post by: Wally on March 18, 2018, 11:29:02 AM
Fun Run or Nightmare Run????  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Fun Run 22-03-2018
Post by: rooshooter on March 18, 2018, 11:59:45 AM
Fun Run or Nightmare Run????  :o :o :o
Maybe only the tough Thursday guys can handle it ;D ;D ;D. It does take about 20 laps to start to get the hang of it, and then it becomes a real addictive challenge to get your lap times down, I find the thought of racing side by side with a human driver in these cars, something to really look forward to. I agree it could be fun or nightmare , it will depend on how much practice you can get in :). You also need to use one of the published setups and be VERY gentle with the throttle.

I think we should turn OFF damage for this event please Phil.

Title: Re: Fun Run 22-03-2018
Post by: Gratulin on March 18, 2018, 02:13:02 PM
These cars are pretty awful to drive. Perhaps add a warm up race with easier to drive cars for those of us who really don't want/need the "challenge"?

Perhaps Alfa GTA at Lime Rock (Download (http://www.mediafire.com/file/3mvdhpv362xckob/limerock_raceway.rar))?
Title: Re: Fun Run 22-03-2018
Post by: rooshooter on March 18, 2018, 04:18:34 PM
These cars are pretty awful to drive. Perhaps add a warm up race with easier to drive cars for those of us who really don't want/need the "challenge"?

Perhaps Alfa GTA at Lime Rock (Download (http://www.mediafire.com/file/3mvdhpv362xckob/limerock_raceway.rar))?
I believe that for once asking for a bit of preperation for a Thursday Fun Run is not asking to much, from ptracker stats only 3 people have given these cars a fair shake so far online. These cars are not awful to drive , they are different, but with a bit of practice you will get the hang of them, 20 laps or just 20 minutes. The whole car was designed to race these ovals at high speed, turning left , even the Offenhauser engine is at a slant to the left. I think  just a gesture of thanks to Seanus, we owe him the pleasure of using some of his special cars and tracks in an online environment.

Phil will be away on the night so changing cars and tracks is not an option.
Title: Re: Fun Run 22-03-2018
Post by: Wally on March 18, 2018, 04:32:10 PM
I can see that with enough practice, these cars give a sense of achievement when you can drift them around a corner and keep them on the track :)
Title: Re: Fun Run 22-03-2018
Post by: Seanus on March 18, 2018, 05:07:39 PM
These cars are pretty awful to drive. Perhaps add a warm up race with easier to drive cars for those of us who really don't want/need the "challenge"?

Perhaps Alfa GTA at Lime Rock (Download (http://www.mediafire.com/file/3mvdhpv362xckob/limerock_raceway.rar))?

Reserve that for a future Fun Run. I have my own rF2 Lime Rock Park conversion and of course my RHD Alfa GTA. ;)
Title: Re: Fun Run 22-03-2018
Post by: rooshooter on March 19, 2018, 09:56:48 AM
Damage is now OFF , thanks Phil, and the races will be rolling starts.
Title: Re: Fun Run 22-03-2018
Post by: Phil.8 on March 19, 2018, 12:41:33 PM
No worries,  Wally and Joe have access to the server while I am away if anything needs changing
Title: Re: Fun Run 22-03-2018
Post by: rooshooter on March 21, 2018, 05:57:25 PM
My setup for these cars, a bit less tail happy than Bacchulum's and a bit slower.
Title: Re: Fun Run 22-03-2018
Post by: Wally on March 23, 2018, 09:12:29 AM
I enjoyed this fun run, especially when close to other cars. I reduced the power diff lock, reduced the rear ARB, and then I found I was able to steer it quite well through the corners with the throttle. It's just a pity the car is so unstable in a straight line.

My lower back is stuffed at the moment, and this race made it too painful to see out. I must have been leaning a little bit sideways the whole circuit :)
Title: Re: Fun Run 22-03-2018
Post by: rooshooter on March 23, 2018, 10:35:24 AM
I enjoyed this fun run, especially when close to other cars. I reduced the power diff lock, reduced the rear ARB, and then I found I was able to steer it quite well through the corners with the throttle. It's just a pity the car is so unstable in a straight line.

My lower back is stuffed at the moment, and this race made it too painful to see out. I must have been leaning a little bit sideways the whole circuit :)
Ok , thanks Wally, I will put a season together of say 6 races  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D 8)
Title: Re: Fun Run 22-03-2018
Post by: Bacchulum on March 23, 2018, 10:45:07 AM
All 200 laps long. ;)
Title: Re: Fun Run 22-03-2018
Post by: Mael on March 23, 2018, 11:57:18 AM
Sad to miss this one, got home late and did not have enough time to download the track/car  :(
Title: Re: Fun Run 22-03-2018
Post by: rooshooter on March 23, 2018, 12:33:54 PM
All 200 laps long. ;)
lol  8)
Title: Re: Fun Run 22-03-2018
Post by: Wally on March 23, 2018, 12:52:10 PM
I enjoyed this fun run, especially when close to other cars. I reduced the power diff lock, reduced the rear ARB, and then I found I was able to steer it quite well through the corners with the throttle. It's just a pity the car is so unstable in a straight line.

My lower back is stuffed at the moment, and this race made it too painful to see out. I must have been leaning a little bit sideways the whole circuit :)
Ok , thanks Wally, I will put a season together of say 6 races  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D 8)
You know, it might work well on a pure oval with no (or shorter) straights.
Title: Re: Fun Run 22-03-2018
Post by: rooshooter on March 23, 2018, 12:57:49 PM
quote from Wally   " My lower back is stuffed at the moment, and this race made it too painful to see out. I must have been leaning a little bit sideways the whole circuit :)". I suffered from lower back problems all my life and found physio pretty much useless and expensive, and that Voltarin Rapid 25 stopped the pain until I recovered. I then suffered a "hip impingement" injury about 18 months ago and could only walk max about 500 mtrs. I was referred to a " Exercise Physiology & Injury Rehabilitation Clinic", my walk and posture was analysed , amongst other things. Long story short my walk and posture has been corrected and I no longer suffer any backpain. I just thought this may help you and maybe some others, it only took me 40 years to find this out :'(
Title: Re: Fun Run 22-03-2018
Post by: Wally on March 23, 2018, 02:46:59 PM
Thanks roo. What is no good for me in the long term is sitting at a computer all day.
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