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Title: S21R6: VIR Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on April 03, 2018, 06:22:23 PM
RACE 1 RESULTS (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2018/04/s21r6-ferrari-599xx-at-vir-race-1.html)
RACE 2 RESULTS (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2018/04/s21r6-ferrari-599xx-at-vir-race-2.html)
SEASON STANDINGS (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2018/02/s21-standings.html)
SEASON STATS (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nu52lWM6_TIRBEGCTF32BxLe8mobfsCFpd_wOeuxpXI/edit?usp=sharing)

Round Points
Kcender87   200
Phil.8   178
Matthew111   124
Keith   112
Jeremy   111
Wally   104
Shayne   69
ab156   67
Grat   66
RussG   58
Freezer   56
buellersdayoff   54
Simone   48
Mael   34
Bacchulum   32
Rob   16
Dave O   15
Dadio   12
Phil   8
killagorilla   0

Congratulations to Kcender on both race wins and the round win, and to Matthew on pole.

Penalties
Race 1 - Simone had an off onto the grass at the end of the back straight and then lost control into the back of Killagorilla. I reckon the impact was as a result of Simone being on the grass, so that’s a racing incident with no penalty.

Race 2 - Matthew and Grat were travelling the same speed down the back straight, but Grat braked too late, tried to avoid Matthew but ended up hitting the side of him, sending him off the track into Phil.8. 30% restrictor penalty for the next round.

Season Podium
Matthew extends his lead over Grat.
1. Matthew.111, 911
2. Grat, 809 pts
3. Phil.8, 762
Title: Re: S21R6: VIR Post-Race Chat
Post by: killagorilla on April 03, 2018, 09:09:43 PM
Sorry about taking you out Dave O. Rob was braking a lot earlier than I was expecting so I had to get off track in order to avoid running into him. From then on I was just a passenger and couldn't avoid hitting you when crossing the track later. Didn't really care about my f.u. race...yeah sorry about messing up yours as well.
Not blaming Rob of course...100% my fault...I was braking earlier, just not early enough.
I like the track...another new one to me.

Btw., noticed my posts here are not very popular, sorry about this as well...try to shut up as much as possible.
Title: Re: S21R6: VIR Post-Race Chat
Post by: grat on April 03, 2018, 09:20:45 PM
Matthew: i was trying to tell you the whole race that your car was going back and forth all the time... like a slow warp, and it was really impossible to follow you without bumping in you all the time. At some point I was attacking you at every corner, but simply because I did not know where you actually were, so I could not brake "behind" you.
Title: Re: S21R6: VIR Post-Race Chat
Post by: grat on April 03, 2018, 09:35:59 PM
oh, well. Sorry guys. I am starting to think this is not good for me. Have fun. Cheers all!
Title: Re: S21R6: VIR Post-Race Chat
Post by: Simone on April 03, 2018, 10:11:27 PM
Hey camon guys,its a game and we are trying to get entertained on tuesday nights.i think i hit killagorilla and i am sorry i have ruined the fun of both sorry again!!
I had a ball in the second race thx guys!!!
Title: Re: S21R6: VIR Post-Race Chat
Post by: Dave O on April 03, 2018, 10:18:51 PM
Sorry about taking you out Dave O. Rob was braking a lot earlier than I was expecting so I had to get off track in order to avoid running into him. From then on I was just a passenger and couldn't avoid hitting you when crossing the track later. Didn't really care about my f.u. race...yeah sorry about messing up yours as well.
Not blaming Rob of course...100% my fault...I was braking earlier, just not early enough.
I like the track...another new one to me.

Btw., noticed my posts here are not very popular, sorry about this as well...try to shut up as much as possible.


To be honest Killa I didn't feel any hit, I thought I'd lost it on my own  :o  All good mate  Cheers Dave O.
Title: Re: S21R6: VIR Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on April 03, 2018, 10:43:10 PM
After all my moaning about being off the pace in practice, I managed my best result in race 2 - a 5th.

Race 1 was pretty intense, defensively. I managed to put an opening lap pass on Mael in the esses, but after that I couldn't really challenge Russ and Keith in front of me, who slowly pulled out an unassailable lead, but I had ab156 on my hammer the whole race, keeping the pressure on me. I eventually had an oversteer moment which let AB past, but a couple of laps later he made a mistake of his own and I could get my spot back. I hung on despite a couple of enthusiastic "hurry up" taps from AB that gave me more tankslapper practice ;)

Race 2 I was pretty much sandwiched between Keith in front (who was battling hard with Jeremy), and Shayne then Matthew behind me. Less than a second gap front and back, which was pretty intense, and some good tight racing, with zero contacts for me.
Title: Re: S21R6: VIR Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on April 03, 2018, 10:44:53 PM
Btw., noticed my posts here are not very popular, sorry about this as well...try to shut up as much as possible.
Your posts are fine! Just say what you want to say. It's good to hear about others' racing experiences.
Title: Re: S21R6: VIR Post-Race Chat
Post by: Phil.8 on April 03, 2018, 10:57:12 PM
I agree with Wally
Title: Re: S21R6: VIR Post-Race Chat
Post by: grat on April 03, 2018, 11:02:51 PM
I agree with Wally
+1. I do not know what killa is referring to exactly. But I do not think there is any problem with his posts nor I think others think it.
Title: Re: S21R6: VIR Post-Race Chat
Post by: grat on April 03, 2018, 11:11:00 PM
As for me: I am sorry if I am disappointing anybody, but I think I should take a few weeks of break. Trying other cars, driving when I can for the pleasure of it. Lately I have only had time for a 40 minutes session on the weekend to try the track and then Tuesday night. So as soon as things get annoying (for any reason: tonight it was nobody's fault... just a crappy connection, I guess) I feel like "right: the only night I can race I can't enjoy it"

So that is it. No hard feeling about anybody or anything, really. All good. But I think I need to do something else for a few weeks. Will keep checking the forum, of course, and probably I'll be back for next season, or at least for parts of it. Hopefully I'll learn how to properly enjoy it again.

As usual: lots of thanks to Wally for the excellent organization.

Cheers!
grat
Title: Re: S21R6: VIR Post-Race Chat
Post by: Freezer on April 03, 2018, 11:16:46 PM
Managed a pb to get 9th in qual so was happy enough with that.
R1  Got away cleanly but then on lap 2 I out braked myself into T1 and dropped 5 spots whilst on the grass.  Sry to Shayne who was already on the grass and I tapped.
From there the race was pretty steady but I kept having difficulty stopping into T1, car seemed really sensitive to brake pressure . . !
R2 I generally benefited from others sliding off in this race making my way from 12th to 8th.  Could see Matthew and Wally ahead but couldn't really shorten the gap.
Still had trouble with the brakes but managed to keep it together . . . just!
Title: Re: S21R6: VIR Post-Race Chat
Post by: Mael on April 03, 2018, 11:23:14 PM
R2 I generally benefited from others sliding off in this race making my way from 12th to 8th.  Could see Matthew and Wally ahead but couldn't really shorten the gap.
Still had trouble with the brakes but managed to keep it together . . . just!

Race one was a disconnect so not commenting on that one. But race two found the same as Freezer, came from the back to 9th place without making any real overtakes. Now only if Simone wasn't there I would have finished much higher up. Nice driving Simone, just could not stay close enough during the long straights to make a decent passing attempt. A hard boiled egg this round since there was no cracking  ;D

Ps: Your karma count is still in the positive Killagorrilla so keep posting away.
Title: Re: S21R6: VIR Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on April 04, 2018, 07:55:06 AM


So that is it. No hard feeling about anybody or anything, really. All good. But I think I need to do something else for a few weeks. Will keep checking the forum, of course, and probably I'll be back for next season, or at least for parts of it. Hopefully I'll learn how to properly enjoy it again.


No worries Grat, I understand if you need to freshen your appetite.


But... I would like to see you race in the final round next week since you are in the championship hunt, out of fairness to Matthew, so he can win it fair and square. After that, you can take a break. Sound fair?
Title: Re: S21R6: VIR Post-Race Chat
Post by: grat on April 04, 2018, 08:05:26 AM
But... I would like to see you race in the final round next week since you are in the championship hunt, out of fairness to Matthew, so he can win it fair and square. After that, you can take a break. Sound fair?
I may not be able to anyway, Wally, because my wife asked me to pick her up at work late that night. If I can't make it, I think Matthew should feel like he fully deserved it anyway---aside for the difficulties with the connection, the battle yesterday was really good, with several corners side by side in more than one lap, say from lap 8 onward. And he was the better one there too. I'll watch the replay when I have a bit of time and I suggest to watch it.
Title: Re: S21R6: VIR Post-Race Chat
Post by: buellersdayoff on April 04, 2018, 08:26:40 AM
Back home from night shift two days early because of my grandmothers passing the night before. Good news though I got to attend another race with you guys. So no practice except for on the night, feeling a bit trashed from travelling all day and my mind not being in the best condition I still felt I needed to get on with it. Last time I drove this track was probably about 8-9 years ago when I tried out iracing.
I got about 30 or so laps in practice but couldn't seem to get any faster than a 1:45, qualifying was the same and got in 16th for race 1.
R1. Steady cautious out of the gate making a couple of spots when others had incidents, meant (I think) I had an angry pack behind me. Tried to keep composure but a lot of pressure from Shayne (being hunter) I somehow managed to hold him off for 8th.
R2. Felt much more composed (except for a couple slide/drifts around the back section), right on Shaynes rear with ab156 on mine, my crew chief suggested I make my car as wide as possible. Mistake, I got my left rear on the grass in the braking zone coming through the back dipper and put me into a four wheel sideways drift collecting Shayne in the process (sorry mate).
Over all the round felt like a disappointment for me although still good fun as usual. Others mentioned stuttering, I had it too but minor, during practice when people were connecting to discord were the biggest ones. Also my crew chief deserted me (crashed or something) sometime during the second race. Still good fun thanks to all
Title: Re: S21R6: VIR Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on April 04, 2018, 09:18:48 AM
That's interesting that your CrewChief crashed, because Rob's did too. I wonder if it's somehow track related.
Title: Re: S21R6: VIR Post-Race Chat
Post by: RussG on April 04, 2018, 10:05:44 AM
Qually: I thought I had more in it but just couldn't put the lap together. Still quite happy with 6th - except that Keith was 5th  :P

R1: Got away with the pack and looked like everyone kept in their lanes through T1 & T2. After T3 Keith got on the grass which allowed me to get beside him at T4a. T4b I think I left him too much room  :-\. Got partly beside him again for T5a but Keith ran me out of road and onto the grass - as he was entitled to do. This let Jeremy get a better run to T6a and there was contact at T6b. I followed Keith & Jeremy for a few laps until I had a big "Crewchief has stopped working" Windows error in the middle of the screen".  Dropped back while fixing it, but still kept my place. Head down, Keith went off somewhere and I pulled Jeremy back in, then pressured him for some laps until he made a mistake.
At this point cruising for a nice 4th, then suddenly Matthew and grat were not far in front of me. They were squabbling over position and I hauled them in. On the last lap grat ran into the back of Matthew at T10 (fast left at top of hill), putting him sideways and torpedoing me. Keith came around next and T-boned me at full pace. Car totally wrecked I limped it home in 11th.

R2: Battling from 11th with the 3rd highest restrictor was never going to be easy. Looked like a nice clean start and we fell into line. At T14, Matthew and grat were recovering from an incident, Matthew joined in front of me and grat behind. Next lap, Matthew got up the inside of ab156 at T13 and grat was threatening me. As I was braking I felt in danger of contact with ab156 and pulled back to the right a bit, got the right tyres on the grass and got spat back across the track into grat (sorry grat :( ).
Rejoined in 16th a long way behind. Made a pass on Dave O - good racing Dave, side by side through about 3 turns without a touch  :D picked up a couple more places as people went off.  Hauled in the Freezer, Shayne, Mael train, then Shayne generously gave up places due to his warping. Ran out of laps to mount a serious challenge on Mael finishing 10th.

The pace was there for good points but the motor racing gods were against me :o That's my story anyway  ;D
Title: Re: S21R6: VIR Post-Race Chat
Post by: Phil.8 on April 04, 2018, 11:44:05 AM
Back home from night shift two days early because of my grandmothers passing the night before. Good news though I got to attend another race with you guys. So no practice except for on the night, feeling a bit trashed from travelling all day and my mind not being in the best condition I still felt I needed to get on with it. Last time I drove this track was probably about 8-9 years ago when I tried out iracing.
I got about 30 or so laps in practice but couldn't seem to get any faster than a 1:45, qualifying was the same and got in 16th for race 1.
R1. Steady cautious out of the gate making a couple of spots when others had incidents, meant (I think) I had an angry pack behind me. Tried to keep composure but a lot of pressure from Shayne (being hunter) I somehow managed to hold him off for 8th.
R2. Felt much more composed (except for a couple slide/drifts around the back section), right on Shaynes rear with ab156 on mine, my crew chief suggested I make my car as wide as possible. Mistake, I got my left rear on the grass in the braking zone coming through the back dipper and put me into a four wheel sideways drift collecting Shayne in the process (sorry mate).
Over all the round felt like a disappointment for me although still good fun as usual. Others mentioned stuttering, I had it too but minor, during practice when people were connecting to discord were the biggest ones. Also my crew chief deserted me (crashed or something) sometime during the second race. Still good fun thanks to all

I am sorry about the lose of your Grandma
Title: Re: S21R6: VIR Post-Race Chat
Post by: buellersdayoff on April 04, 2018, 11:57:33 AM
That's interesting that your CrewChief crashed, because Rob's did too. I wonder if it's somehow track related.
Got a feeling it could be, haven't had any issues like that in while. I think discord updated beforehand, crew chief had a sound file update and steam mentioned something about an update as content manager opened ac. So could be anything really, see what happens at a different track I suppose.
Back home from night shift two days early because of my grandmothers passing the night before. Good news though I got to attend another race with you guys. So no practice except for on the night, feeling a bit trashed from travelling all day and my mind not being in the best condition I still felt I needed to get on with it. Last time I drove this track was probably about 8-9 years ago when I tried out iracing.
I got about 30 or so laps in practice but couldn't seem to get any faster than a 1:45, qualifying was the same and got in 16th for race 1.
R1. Steady cautious out of the gate making a couple of spots when others had incidents, meant (I think) I had an angry pack behind me. Tried to keep composure but a lot of pressure from Shayne (being hunter) I somehow managed to hold him off for 8th.
R2. Felt much more composed (except for a couple slide/drifts around the back section), right on Shaynes rear with ab156 on mine, my crew chief suggested I make my car as wide as possible. Mistake, I got my left rear on the grass in the braking zone coming through the back dipper and put me into a four wheel sideways drift collecting Shayne in the process (sorry mate).
Over all the round felt like a disappointment for me although still good fun as usual. Others mentioned stuttering, I had it too but minor, during practice when people were connecting to discord were the biggest ones. Also my crew chief deserted me (crashed or something) sometime during the second race. Still good fun thanks to all

I am sorry about the lose or your Grandma
Thank you
Title: Re: S21R6: VIR Post-Race Chat
Post by: Dave O on April 04, 2018, 01:03:12 PM
That's interesting that your CrewChief crashed, because Rob's did too. I wonder if it's somehow track related.

It's the balloons.... crew chief couldn't spot the cars  ;D ;D lol.
Title: Re: S21R6: VIR Post-Race Chat
Post by: Simone on April 04, 2018, 06:50:15 PM
After all my moaning about being off the pace in practice, I managed my best result in race 2 - a 5th.

Race 1 was pretty intense, defensively. I managed to put an opening lap pass on Mael in the esses, but after that I couldn't really challenge Russ and Keith in front of me, who slowly pulled out an unassailable lead, but I had ab156 on my hammer the whole race, keeping the pressure on me. I eventually had an oversteer moment which let AB past, but a couple of laps later he made a mistake of his own and I could get my spot back. I hung on despite a couple of enthusiastic "hurry up" taps from AB that gave me more tankslapper practice ;)

Race 2 I was pretty much sandwiched between Keith in front (who was battling hard with Jeremy), and Shayne then Matthew behind me. Less than a second gap front and back, which was pretty intense, and some good tight racing, with zero contacts for me.

You have improved a lot wally!  Nice!!!
Title: Re: S21R6: VIR Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on April 05, 2018, 08:00:32 AM
After all my moaning about being off the pace in practice, I managed my best result in race 2 - a 5th.

Race 1 was pretty intense, defensively. I managed to put an opening lap pass on Mael in the esses, but after that I couldn't really challenge Russ and Keith in front of me, who slowly pulled out an unassailable lead, but I had ab156 on my hammer the whole race, keeping the pressure on me. I eventually had an oversteer moment which let AB past, but a couple of laps later he made a mistake of his own and I could get my spot back. I hung on despite a couple of enthusiastic "hurry up" taps from AB that gave me more tankslapper practice ;)

Race 2 I was pretty much sandwiched between Keith in front (who was battling hard with Jeremy), and Shayne then Matthew behind me. Less than a second gap front and back, which was pretty intense, and some good tight racing, with zero contacts for me.

You have improved a lot wally!  Nice!!!
Cheers Simone. Liking the car helps ;)
Title: Re: S21R6: VIR Post-Race Chat
Post by: Joe on April 05, 2018, 08:56:50 AM
After all my moaning about being off the pace in practice, I managed my best result in race 2 - a 5th.

Race 1 was pretty intense, defensively. I managed to put an opening lap pass on Mael in the esses, but after that I couldn't really challenge Russ and Keith in front of me, who slowly pulled out an unassailable lead, but I had ab156 on my hammer the whole race, keeping the pressure on me. I eventually had an oversteer moment which let AB past, but a couple of laps later he made a mistake of his own and I could get my spot back. I hung on despite a couple of enthusiastic "hurry up" taps from AB that gave me more tankslapper practice ;)

Race 2 I was pretty much sandwiched between Keith in front (who was battling hard with Jeremy), and Shayne then Matthew behind me. Less than a second gap front and back, which was pretty intense, and some good tight racing, with zero contacts for me.

You have improved a lot wally!  Nice!!!

Or did you just get a lot worse Simone  ;D
Title: Re: S21R6: VIR Post-Race Chat
Post by: Matthew111 on April 05, 2018, 08:22:08 PM
Qual was decent, happy with the lap

Race was interesting lol, kcender got the run on me on the exit of t1 and got the lead and i settled in behind him trying to get a groove for the race but then grat caught me and i got involved in the most intense bumper on bumper, door on door battle ever lol i know i had a lag issue a few races a go but that was due to my sister jumping on netflix and i could clearly see the effects when she jumped on my ping would go to 300 and people would fly everywhere but she has since been banned from it so that isnt a issue anymore, the slow warp is a thing i have seen in ac for a while where cars would slightly float on a straight and its not just me i have seen vids etc so thats something i have always accounted for when racing online in ac and it hasnt bothered me much, my ping was always in the teens last night, to be honest though a lot of the contacts i got i felt was from grat being a tad aggressive and were avoidable lag or no lag wouldnt have made a difference, such as the initial hit in the rear at the top of the hill coming into the fast left no idea how i managed to keep it on the road lol, one hit put me in the wall and after that my car was rooted it had so much understeer and not much top end speed so a lot of the slowing down going up the hill which is normally flat out i was slowing down to negotiate it which could be seen as warping. It was a cool scrap though after surviving it lol and by the end pretty much from being put in the wall on i made it my mission to keep grat behind me for a brutal cship battle ;P

Race 2: I was just keen to not be in a belted car which didnt last long as grat had a moment going into the final set of turns being a bit ambitious on the cold tyre and sent me into the in field and straight into phils door sadly but i was happy to see he survived but im sure his car would have been shit, mine had bent steering and was a bit slow down the straights again so i had to limp it home but still had good pace sticking behind bueler before he went off and then wally but i couldnt do anything about him and it wasnt really worth it since grat dnf

You cant fight me that hard grat to then just quit come the last round lol
Title: Re: S21R6: VIR Post-Race Chat
Post by: grat on April 05, 2018, 10:46:23 PM
You cant fight me that hard grat to then just quit come the last round lol
Sorry Matthew. As you know, it has nothing to do with you (or anybody, really). But yes: I was really trying to make you sweat for the title ;)---and I am sure you know, but... I did wait and redress when the harder crash happened.

That said: I am perfectly aware that some slow warp happens. But I had fights with lots of people in these past years without so much of it. I am perfectly willing to think it was my impression or my imprecision more than any true issue, of course. Just wanted to let you know I was not trying to be overly aggressive. Just fight hard because it looked like the "decisive" race of the season and so it was worth making it an epic one.
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