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Title: S17 R13 - Aintree - 09/05/2019
Post by: Phil.8 on May 01, 2019, 06:52:36 PM
R13 - Aintree

The final round is upon us

More Info with links to cars and track downloads
http://xgn.com.au/index.php?topic=2477.0


http://52.63.217.129:50041/championship?cs_id=10

http://52.63.217.129:50041/sessionstat

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Title: Re: S17 R13 - Aintree - 09/05/2019
Post by: Phil.8 on May 02, 2019, 09:51:55 PM
Server is up
Title: Re: S17 R13 - Aintree - 09/05/2019
Post by: rooshooter on May 03, 2019, 07:38:55 AM
Aero  discussion info

https://catsonslicks.wordpress.com/2017/02/25/ac-wings-dev-app/
Title: Re: S17 R13 - Aintree - 09/05/2019
Post by: rooshooter on May 03, 2019, 07:42:55 AM
Sad this season is ending I just do not get bored with driving this car :'(.
Title: Re: S17 R13 - Aintree - 09/05/2019
Post by: Bacchulum on May 03, 2019, 09:22:32 AM
When you step up to F1, Roo, you normally leave the Formula Ford ranks. ;D ;D 8)
Title: Re: S17 R13 - Aintree - 09/05/2019
Post by: rooshooter on May 03, 2019, 10:58:46 AM
When you step up to F1, Roo, you normally leave the Formula Ford ranks. ;D ;D 8)
lol Bacchulum, but I think I will ever be ready for F1 :'(.
Title: Re: S17 R13 - Aintree - 09/05/2019
Post by: Bacchulum on May 03, 2019, 12:34:29 PM
When you step up to F1, Roo, you normally leave the Formula Ford ranks. ;D ;D 8)
lol Bacchulum, but I think I will ever be ready for F1 :'(.
Au contraire, but you ARE racing Tuesday. ;D 8)
Title: Re: S17 R13 - Aintree - 09/05/2019
Post by: Phil.8 on May 03, 2019, 05:03:29 PM
Aero  discussion info

https://catsonslicks.wordpress.com/2017/02/25/ac-wings-dev-app/

Thanks roo, very interesting stuff but a bit over my head, don't even know where to start really, some pointers on what to look at and not to waste my time with would be handy from someone who understand its all,

Really need someone to make an app that tells me what I need to do to make it perfect  :o ;) ;)
Title: Re: S17 R13 - Aintree - 09/05/2019
Post by: Bacchulum on May 03, 2019, 06:03:57 PM
Really need someone to make an app that tells me what I need to do to make it perfect  :o ;) ;)
A Newey app? :P
(for the chassis, at least)
Title: Re: S17 R13 - Aintree - 09/05/2019
Post by: Bacchulum on May 03, 2019, 06:15:17 PM
some pointers on what to look at and not to waste my time with would be handy
This part is crucial in my base setup for cars with wings:

"@X% front – This is your Aero Balance, very handy for setting the car up. Generally you want this to match your weight distribution (its at least a good starting point). For a most cars this is fine anywhere between 40% and 50%, though I wouldn’t advice anything above 50, and of course its car, track and most importantly user dependent. Do some experimenting and find whats best for you."
(weight distribution can be found in the dev app Car Physics)

Then I use this to see if the change is a gain:

"EFF – This is just CL/CD, so your aero efficiency. Big numbers are better, as it means you have more downforce per quantity of drag. Some tracks (Monaco) you can sort of forget this and go maximum drag, but its important for most tracks."
(ie. maxing the wings in the '75 mod brought no extra downforce, just drag)

Given the power of Seanus' use of AoA, I may pay more attention to that from now on. ;)
Title: Re: S17 R13 - Aintree - 09/05/2019
Post by: Seanus on May 03, 2019, 09:01:32 PM
You'll need your %front less than your dynamic CoG, you check this in one of the other apps with 'distr' where you can see how far back your CoG goes when you are hard on the gas.
Ignore ride heights and go by the 'wings' app to check your rake.
Title: Re: S17 R13 - Aintree - 09/05/2019
Post by: Seanus on May 03, 2019, 09:14:52 PM
DISTR ( weight distribution rear) is in the 'Car Physics' app.
Check your static figures whilst rolling at 10km/h, as that's after the switch from static to dynamic physics kick in.
Title: Re: S17 R13 - Aintree - 09/05/2019
Post by: Seanus on May 05, 2019, 12:14:51 PM
Track fix incoming.
Title: Aintree Fixed
Post by: Seanus on May 05, 2019, 02:23:59 PM
Aintree (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Lbx_P4aWggm01Tf96RW7tJhndPf2HXbB)

Physics mesh was merely a copy of the visible mesh and thus redundant, worse, it had been smoothed without being stitched back together so all the seams got separated and most of the bumps you felt were actually holes in the mesh.

Tweaked a few shader values, removed the sticky walls and added working Pitlane. Not tested much, but hope it should all work now.
Title: Re: S17 R13 - Aintree - 09/05/2019
Post by: rooshooter on May 05, 2019, 02:30:05 PM
Thanks Seanus it was very bumpy, but is a very atmospheric track :).
Title: Re: S17 R13 - Aintree - 09/05/2019
Post by: rooshooter on May 06, 2019, 07:37:14 AM
Did you see this Phil? track has been updated by Seanus.
Title: Re: S17 R13 - Aintree - 09/05/2019
Post by: Phil.8 on May 06, 2019, 05:30:55 PM
yes and server has been updated
Title: Re: S17 R13 - Aintree - 09/05/2019
Post by: Dave O on May 06, 2019, 05:53:48 PM
Not going to make this round either Phil  :-[  Sharkies playing Thursday night again in Brisbane  ;)

Have fun all, and thanks for the season Phil, great job  :)  Cheers Dave O.
Title: Re: S17 R13 - Aintree - 09/05/2019
Post by: Phil.8 on May 07, 2019, 10:22:35 PM
Not going to make this round either Phil  :-[  Sharkies playing Thursday night again in Brisbane  ;)

Have fun all, and thanks for the season Phil, great job  :)  Cheers Dave O.

Me either, I have a wedding to go to,  I know who the hell has a wedding on a Thursday :(

anyway if not enough people to race maybe Wally will have a fun run or maybe a week off,  but I don't mind if the race goes ahead, I am just thinking it might be boring with only a few people
Title: Re: S17 R13 - Aintree - 09/05/2019
Post by: rooshooter on May 08, 2019, 08:19:34 AM
As a gesture of thanks to Phil for putting together a great selection of tracks, including the oval , could we postpone next round so we have a good rollup for the last track in this series with this great mod :).
Title: Re: S17 R13 - Aintree - 09/05/2019
Post by: Wally on May 08, 2019, 11:47:58 AM
OK, I'll set up some kind of random fun run. Seanus, do you have any cars you want to try?
Title: Re: S17 R13 - Aintree - 09/05/2019
Post by: Seanus on May 08, 2019, 01:07:20 PM
Various Fun run cars.  :P  (https://perendinator.blogspot.com/2019/03/its-joke-joyce.html)

Stick them all on the sever when you get the time. I'll test then and any that turn out to be borked we can cull.
Tracks? Some favourites or something new, anyone else have something in mind?
Title: Re: S17 R13 - Aintree - 09/05/2019
Post by: Wally on May 08, 2019, 07:56:28 PM
Various Fun run cars.  :P  (https://perendinator.blogspot.com/2019/03/its-joke-joyce.html)

Stick them all on the sever when you get the time. I'll test then and any that turn out to be borked we can cull.
Tracks? Some favourites or something new, anyone else have something in mind?
OK, I've put those cars on the practice server (just default skins for now) and just left the track at Aintree.
Title: Oh oh
Post by: Seanus on May 08, 2019, 09:21:06 PM
OK, I've put those cars on the practice server (just default skins for now) and just left the track at Aintree.

Thanks Wally,.............but I'm getting a mismatch, did you get my updated version of Aintree, see above, or if so perhaps switch to a Kunos track. Soz for the hassles.
Title: Re: Oh oh
Post by: Wally on May 08, 2019, 10:53:08 PM
OK, I've put those cars on the practice server (just default skins for now) and just left the track at Aintree.

Thanks Wally,.............but I'm getting a mismatch, did you get my updated version of Aintree, see above, or if so perhaps switch to a Kunos track. Soz for the hassles.
I downloaded the track from RD tonight, then I got a mismatch on Phil's server. I updated the server, then I could join. The track was updated in March. Maybe you need to re-download the track?
Title: Re: Aintree Fixed
Post by: Seanus on May 08, 2019, 11:02:40 PM
...I downloaded the track from RD tonight, then I got a mismatch on Phil's server. I updated the server, then I could join. The track was updated in March. Maybe you need to re-download the track?
Aintree (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Lbx_P4aWggm01Tf96RW7tJhndPf2HXbB)

Physics mesh was merely a copy of the visible mesh and thus redundant, worse, it had been smoothed without being stitched back together so all the seams got separated and most of the bumps you felt were actually holes in the mesh.

Tweaked a few shader values, removed the sticky walls and added working Pitlane. Not tested much, but hope it should all work now.
;) It's not me who needs to update.  ;)
Title: Re: Aintree Fixed
Post by: Wally on May 09, 2019, 07:37:26 AM
...I downloaded the track from RD tonight, then I got a mismatch on Phil's server. I updated the server, then I could join. The track was updated in March. Maybe you need to re-download the track?
Aintree (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Lbx_P4aWggm01Tf96RW7tJhndPf2HXbB)

Physics mesh was merely a copy of the visible mesh and thus redundant, worse, it had been smoothed without being stitched back together so all the seams got separated and most of the bumps you felt were actually holes in the mesh.

Tweaked a few shader values, removed the sticky walls and added working Pitlane. Not tested much, but hope it should all work now.
;) It's not me who needs to update.  ;)
Thanks, fixed.
Title: Re: S17 R13 - Aintree - 09/05/2019
Post by: Phil.8 on May 15, 2019, 08:17:25 PM
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Lbx_P4aWggm01Tf96RW7tJhndPf2HXbB/view
Title: Re: S17 R13 - Aintree - 09/05/2019
Post by: Phil.8 on May 15, 2019, 08:37:06 PM
Should I change to a shorter easier less bumpy track ? or of those who have tried happy with it ?
Title: Re: S17 R13 - Aintree - 09/05/2019
Post by: rooshooter on May 15, 2019, 09:51:55 PM
Should I change to a shorter easier less bumpy track ? or of those who have tried happy with it ?
I thought it was ok phil, you get used to bumps after a few laps and I like the location , it is very atmospheric.
Title: Re: S17 R13 - Aintree - 09/05/2019
Post by: Phil.8 on May 15, 2019, 10:23:42 PM
cool  I will leave as is
Title: Re: S17 R13 - Aintree - 09/05/2019
Post by: Phil.8 on May 16, 2019, 04:38:59 PM
reminder of updated track thanks to seanus

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Lbx_P4aWggm01Tf96RW7tJhndPf2HXbB/view
Title: Re: S17 R13 - Aintree - 09/05/2019
Post by: Phil.8 on May 16, 2019, 09:52:37 PM
8) Results (http://52.63.217.129:50041/championship?cs_id=10) :P

Well driven mael and AB, well deserved wins

And can we get a cheer for Bacchulum, who has been crowned Season 17 champion and is now basking in all his glory, I have attached a picture of him, I sneakily took during the nights celebrations, that you can see was enjoyed by many, basking in glory  :o

http://52.63.217.129:50041/sessiondetails?sessionid=8021#

http://52.63.217.129:50041/sessiondetails?sessionid=8022#

http://52.63.217.129:50041/sessiondetails?sessionid=8023#

http://52.63.217.129:50041/sessiondetails?sessionid=8025#
Title: Re: S17 R13 - Aintree - 09/05/2019
Post by: Wally on May 17, 2019, 08:32:15 AM
Well done Bacchulum. You always know how to get the best out of these Thursday cars.
Title: Re: S17 R13 - Aintree - 09/05/2019
Post by: rooshooter on May 17, 2019, 09:58:11 AM
Congratulations Bacchulum, you were the Kcender of the Formula Ford ;D. Great selection of tracks too thanks Phil. Fof me one of the most enjoyable seasons :).
Title: Re: S17 R13 - Aintree - 09/05/2019
Post by: rob on May 17, 2019, 10:08:02 AM
Congratulations Bacchulum, you were the Kcender of the Formula Ford ;D. Great selection of tracks too thanks Phil. Fof me one of the most enjoyable seasons :).

+1
Title: Re: S17 R13 - Aintree - 09/05/2019
Post by: Bacchulum on May 17, 2019, 12:08:00 PM
Well done Bacchulum. You always know how to get the best out of these Thursday cars.
Ssshhh, don't tell anyone, but it's practicing before the night. ;)
Title: Re: S17 R13 - Aintree - 09/05/2019
Post by: rooshooter on May 17, 2019, 02:42:13 PM
Good to see GW back on the track as well :).
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