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Title: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
Post by: Phil.8 on August 16, 2018, 12:49:55 PM: R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik

More Info with links to cars and track downloads
http://xgn.com.au/index.php?topic=2327.0

http://52.63.217.129:50041/championship?cs_id=8&event_id=53

http://52.63.217.129:50041/sessionstat

https://discord.gg/fWYBSxp

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Title: Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
Post by: Phil.8 on August 16, 2018, 12:51:25 PM: Let me know what car you want
Title: Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
Post by: Bacchulum on August 16, 2018, 01:28:01 PM: The JPS Estonia, the 21 I think, I'll confirm. ;)
Title: Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
Post by: Phil.8 on August 16, 2018, 02:25:50 PM: 21 1600 or plain 21 ?
Title: Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
Post by: Bacchulum on August 16, 2018, 02:50:08 PM: Boring old, gutless, 1300cc (the plain one). ;D
Title: Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
Post by: rooshooter on August 16, 2018, 04:01:52 PM: Avia af87 please Phil.

Good to see Bacchulum enter into the spirit of this season :) :) :)
Title: Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
Post by: Phil.8 on August 16, 2018, 04:42:42 PM: Quote from: rooshooter on August 16, 2018, 04:01:52 PM
Avia af87 please Phil.

Good to see Bacchulum enter into the spirit of this season :) :) :)

Which means I will probably take the raf_80, I only did a a few laps last night in it, but it felt truly awful :)
Title: Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
Post by: rooshooter on August 16, 2018, 07:01:04 PM: Quote from: Phil.8 on August 16, 2018, 04:42:42 PM
Quote from: rooshooter on August 16, 2018, 04:01:52 PM
Avia af87 please Phil.

Good to see Bacchulum enter into the spirit of this season :) :) :)

Which means I will probably take the raf_80, I only did a a few laps last night in it, but it felt truly awful :)
Don't make the season a chore for yourself Phil, at least pick a car you like to drive.
Title: Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
Post by: Bacchulum on August 16, 2018, 07:19:54 PM: Yeah, the Estonia isn't a bad car, just a heavy one. 8)
Title: Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
Post by: Phil.8 on August 16, 2018, 10:05:54 PM: Server is up
Title: Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
Post by: Wally on August 16, 2018, 10:06:28 PM: I'll take a mtx_103c_r2 thanks Phil.
Title: Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
Post by: rob on August 17, 2018, 10:06:07 AM: Hey Phil, what a great little track for these cars. Flat out, slight elevation changes, blind corners. great fun.

I'll take the MTX1-06 Please.
Title: Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
Post by: Mael on August 17, 2018, 06:52:48 PM: Tuff choice for a car. First thought I'll go slow and choose the RUF. However during the last practice race I found that you can get around its lazy front end with some setup and driving changes so its just as quick as the others. The MTX's would make for great racing, had a ball chasing Wally during the second practice race but its a bit boring.

So I'm going to go with the first car I tested, the Avia_ae2, slow in a straight line but man so CHUCHABLE! I'm usually complaining of a lack of front grip but that thing just sticks :)

So Phil a Avia_ae2 for me please..._{(and you are not allowed to take the Estonia_20_1600 ;D)}
Title: Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
Post by: Bacchulum on August 18, 2018, 09:06:26 AM: Did some aero mapping in the E21 and managed to get 40% front CoP, even without a front wing. 8)
And that allowed me to get the spring frequencies back to a more traditional delta. ;D
Setup posted on sTracker. ;)
Title: Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
Post by: rob on August 18, 2018, 10:07:53 AM: OK Dave, which App gives you this technical mumbo jumbo witchcraft? I know I won't be able to make heads nor tails out of it, but I would love to try.
Title: Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
Post by: Bacchulum on August 18, 2018, 02:29:18 PM: You need to enable Dev_Apps.
This is located in your main install: (steam crap)/assettocorsa/system/cfg/assetto_corsa.ini
Once you do this, you'll have access to the Wings app, which shows total d/f for each element, d/f & drag coefficients as well as CoP % (front) (I call this the wind tunnel).
You'll also have access to the Car Engineer app, which gives damper ratios as well as suspension frequencies (shaker rig).
I use Car Physics app to get the weight distribution which locates the CoP (just rearwards of this point).

Enjoy the world of numbers. 8)
Title: Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
Post by: Wally on August 18, 2018, 03:52:29 PM: Quote from: Bacchulum on August 18, 2018, 09:06:26 AM
Did some aero mapping in the E21 and managed to get 40% front CoP, even without a front wing. 8)
And that allowed me to get the spring frequencies back to a more traditional delta. ;D
Setup posted on sTracker. ;)
But did it make you faster? :)
Title: Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
Post by: Bacchulum on August 18, 2018, 04:15:22 PM: Yes, with more even tyre wear to boot. ;)
Title: Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
Post by: Phil.8 on August 18, 2018, 04:37:53 PM: Quote from: Bacchulum on August 18, 2018, 02:29:18 PM
You need to enable Dev_Apps.
This is located in your main install: (steam crap)/assettocorsa/system/cfg/assetto_corsa.ini
Once you do this, you'll have access to the Wings app, which shows total d/f for each element, d/f & drag coefficients as well as CoP % (front) (I call this the wind tunnel).
You'll also have access to the Car Engineer app, which gives damper ratios as well as suspension frequencies (shaker rig).
I use Car Physics app to get the weight distribution which locates the CoP (just rearwards of this point).

Enjoy the world of numbers. 8)

I simple to understand app that gave these numbers in a way dummies like me could understand would be cool
Title: Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
Post by: Bacchulum on August 18, 2018, 05:01:02 PM: I don't think you're talking to me there, Phil. :-\
Who do you think he's talking to Wally? ???
Title: Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
Post by: Wally on August 18, 2018, 05:54:40 PM: Quote from: Phil.8 on August 18, 2018, 04:37:53 PM
Quote from: Bacchulum on August 18, 2018, 02:29:18 PM
You need to enable Dev_Apps.
This is located in your main install: (steam crap)/assettocorsa/system/cfg/assetto_corsa.ini
Once you do this, you'll have access to the Wings app, which shows total d/f for each element, d/f & drag coefficients as well as CoP % (front) (I call this the wind tunnel).
You'll also have access to the Car Engineer app, which gives damper ratios as well as suspension frequencies (shaker rig).
I use Car Physics app to get the weight distribution which locates the CoP (just rearwards of this point).

Enjoy the world of numbers. 8)

I simple to understand app that gave these numbers in a way dummies like me could understand would be cool
Some, or most, of these measurements aren't exposed to public apps, unfortunately.
Title: Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
Post by: rob on August 18, 2018, 07:08:31 PM: Thanks Dave. I'll check it out. Expect my lap times to fall off a cliff.
Title: Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
Post by: Bacchulum on August 18, 2018, 07:25:53 PM: Quote from: rob on August 18, 2018, 07:08:31 PM
Thanks Dave. I'll check it out. Expect my lap times to fall off a cliff.
I think the most valuable bit is the wing's balance (CoP) percentage.
With some cars, one 'click' can be 20% on one end and only 5% on the other.
Get the CoP right, you don't over-compensate with the suspension and excessively wear the tyres on one axle, as well as getting a better balanced car in both high and low speed corners.
The rest can be closely judged by feel (by others I believe, but I like confirmation).
My laptime improves more through confidence of consistency more than a gain in grip itself, but it can't hurt to know the car better. ;)
Title: Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
Post by: rooshooter on August 19, 2018, 11:54:41 AM: This is a great high speed track, reminds me of Oesterreichring 70s, and just as hard to get right!!! After much stuffing around with setup, and many laps later, I went back to my Magione setup (which I was completely happy with) and voila I managed a 1m29s :). Might be worth a try if you are having trouble, but you need to feel comfortable at the track first ;). This track is a great find and looks beautiful as well, thanks Seanus :) :) :).
Title: Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
Post by: rooshooter on August 20, 2018, 03:45:10 PM: I have put my setup for the Avia-af87 on PTracker, which uses no aero :). And one for Metalax 106, also with no aero.
Title: Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
Post by: Seanus on August 23, 2018, 12:49:42 PM: Bit late :-[

But an AF87 pls ;)
Title: Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
Post by: Phil.8 on August 23, 2018, 01:29:21 PM: All the cars have been assigned and there is at least one of each car available I think for those whop have not decided yet
Title: Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
Post by: Bacchulum on August 23, 2018, 01:58:17 PM: I hope I make it.
Going under the knife this arvo, don't know how long it will take or how I'll feel afterwards, but we'll see.
Title: Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
Post by: Phil.8 on August 23, 2018, 02:05:45 PM: Quote from: Bacchulum on August 23, 2018, 01:58:17 PM
I hope I make it.
Going under the knife this arvo, don't know how long it will take or how I'll feel afterwards, but we'll see.

I hope all is ok and get well soon :)
Title: Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
Post by: rob on August 23, 2018, 02:45:57 PM: Quote from: Bacchulum on August 23, 2018, 01:58:17 PM
Going under the knife this arvo, don't know how long it will take or how I'll feel afterwards, but we'll see.

Gee Dave that doesn't sound too good. But I love your commitment!

Hope all goes well mate. Get better soon.
Title: Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
Post by: Bacchulum on August 23, 2018, 02:56:07 PM: It's only a cyst, a huge one, but just a cyst.
Dr said it's awkward though, being on my nose and all. :o
Title: Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
Post by: Dave O on August 23, 2018, 03:22:26 PM: Sorry for the late pick Phil, had trouble deciding between the MTX 106 (safety) or the Avia AF87 (speed) :-\

Will take the Avia AF87 please. ::) Hope I don't regret it :o Thanks Phil.
Title: Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
Post by: Phil.8 on August 23, 2018, 03:29:42 PM: done Dave
Title: Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
Post by: Wally on August 23, 2018, 04:18:14 PM: Good luck Bacchulum.
Title: Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
Post by: Mael on August 23, 2018, 04:29:00 PM: Who know Bacchulum, anesthetics may be a performance enhancing drug ;D

Best of luck.
Title: Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
Post by: ab156 on August 23, 2018, 05:07:30 PM: Is arrive and drive accepted in here? Don't have car, guess I just pick a "free" one?
Title: Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
Post by: rooshooter on August 23, 2018, 05:12:40 PM: Hope all is well Bacchulum :).
Title: Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
Post by: rooshooter on August 23, 2018, 05:13:40 PM: Quote from: ab156 on August 23, 2018, 05:07:30 PM
Is arrive and drive accepted in here? Don't have car, guess I just pick a "free" one?
Yes , just rock up and pick a car 8).
Title: Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
Post by: Phil.8 on August 23, 2018, 05:32:25 PM: Quote from: rooshooter on August 23, 2018, 05:13:40 PM
Quote from: ab156 on August 23, 2018, 05:07:30 PM
Is arrive and drive accepted in here? Don't have car, guess I just pick a "free" one?
Yes , just rock up and pick a car 8).

+1
Title: Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
Post by: Wally on August 23, 2018, 07:24:18 PM: But don't take an MTX 103 that has Wally painted on the side ;)
Title: Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
Post by: imperious on August 23, 2018, 07:48:57 PM: Bit late but MTX 106 Please
Title: Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
Post by: Phil.8 on August 23, 2018, 08:21:19 PM: 8) Results (http://52.63.217.129:50041/championship) :P
http://52.63.217.129:50041/championship

Well done Seanus on both the race wins, as your reward you must pick a different car for next week :P

http://52.63.217.129:50041/sessiondetails?sessionid=5400#

http://52.63.217.129:50041/sessiondetails?sessionid=5401#

http://52.63.217.129:50041/sessiondetails?sessionid=5402#

http://52.63.217.129:50041/sessiondetails?sessionid=5404#