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Simulation Racing Leagues => Assetto Corsa => Inter-League Challenges => Topic started by: Wally on October 16, 2014, 06:26:42 PM
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Settle down Dick.
The guys at ARSE (AACL) are starting to think about an AACL/XGN inter-league challenge. Put your thinking caps on for format ideas etc. I'm thinking something like our best 12 vs. their best 12, in a combo of our choice and one of their choice. Time to kick some ARSE!
And Ben Cornett counts as XGN.
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What does Darren count, though? :)
Shit, I'll probably have to start doing some practice, then...it won't do to rock up and learn the combo on the night.
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What does Darren count, though? :)
Shit, I'll probably have to start doing some practice, then...it won't do to rock up and learn the combo on the night.
Darren's definitely XGN, as are you :)
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I'm a member of both, but I'm XGN. ;)
Now, I just need to get into the top 12.... :o
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Can you please suggest all driving aids on as mandatory.
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Wow, captcha to post as well?
(http://i.imgur.com/KfCYMRJ.png)
Are you suggesting ARSE blokes can't drive? :)
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Can't let any old riff raff onto the forums, you know.
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Wow, captcha to post as well?
Hey Norbs, welcome to the dark side! ;)
I think captcha is only needed early on, for posting.
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Well I'm an arse but I race here (well, when I can) so i'd race for whichever side is silly enough to include me in their top 12 :D
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race for us, f@ck ARSE! :D
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race for us, f@ck ARSE! :D
Didn't know you were a Greek sailor!
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race for us, f@ck ARSE! :D
Didn't know you were a Greek sailor!
:D
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Let's talk soon norbs and work something out. Our current season ends in a few weeks, might be good timing for some inter-league fun.
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Will be a while before i'm level with you ARSE's
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Will be a while before i'm level with you ARSE's
Always loved a double entendre! Nice.
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race for us, f@ck ARSE! :D
Didn't know you were a Greek sailor!
:D
Thanks goodness the Romans introduced women to love! ;D
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What does Darren count, though? :)
Shit, I'll probably have to start doing some practice, then...it won't do to rock up and learn the combo on the night.
Darren's definitely XGN, as are you :)
Hate to disappoint you but I've been an ARSE man for too long to change my ways now :)
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ok, then, we just need to implement a proper balancing scheme, Wally can come up with the methodology...we can still win! :)
here's an example:
we got the cars in order slowest to fastest, we assign one car to each letter of the alphabet in order.
Then we assign the cars to drivers based on their team's name's first letter to the matching car.
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put me in on the XGN side,if that is possible :o,
.....ok bird what about same cars with a fixed setup? The best hands win!! As simple as that.
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ok, then, we just need to implement a proper balancing scheme, Wally can come up with the methodology...we can still win! :)
here's an example:
we got the cars in order slowest to fastest, we assign one car to each letter of the alphabet in order.
Then we assign the cars to drivers based on their team's name's first letter to the matching car.
I reckon XGN still have some very fast drivers in Guy, YSU and Marty and quite a few consistent drivers to match...... no need to handicap, just a strategist is required. Someone to smash out and Darren and Job is done ;D
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Could divide drivers into 2 classes based on known performance and award double points to class 2 drivers. That way you can run a normal race but the winning team is based on aggregate points for each team.
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ok, then, we just need to implement a proper balancing scheme, Wally can come up with the methodology...we can still win! :)
here's an example:
we got the cars in order slowest to fastest, we assign one car to each letter of the alphabet in order.
Then we assign the cars to drivers based on their team's name's first letter to the matching car.
I reckon XGN still have some very fast drivers in Guy, YSU and Marty and quite a few consistent drivers to match...... no need to handicap, just a strategist is required. Someone to smash out and Darren and Job is done ;D
Someone's calling your name, Dick. :P
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put me in on the XGN side,if that is possible :o,
.....ok bird what about same cars with a fixed setup? The best hands win!! As simple as that.
Hey, nice to see you coming out of the woodwork! I hope you're as fast in AC as you were in iRacing - and GTL! Then we may still put a winner team together ;)
Fixed setup: can't enforce it & does not give us any advantage. Not good :)
I reckon XGN still have some very fast drivers
That's not the point, is it! Winning must be ensured at all costs! :D
Besides, not sure if you've seen the fast chaps on the other side...they're humming around ARSE like a swarm of green flies!
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I have no idea what the skill levels of the XGN guys is like, but there are a few handy steerers at ARSE. Should make for a fun competition.
I will be in touch soon Wally.
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I have no idea what the skill levels of the XGN guys is like, but there are a few handy steerers at ARSE. Should make for a fun competition.
I will be in touch soon Wally.
Definitely, it'll be fun :)
Touch ARSE soon!
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In picking the top 12 some members may think the selection is based on a popularity contest, I know it wouldn't be but it's best to avoid people thinking that.
To ensure all members have an equal chance the top 12 should be picked after a qualifying session is run, it doesn't have to be on the night of the race and would make more sense if it was run a week before the event.
Also basing the decision on past session results might not be "fair". We don't have all the regular people always making each night and some players might not be good with one car as they are with another.
I know personally I didn't put in much practice on the lotus league and didn't care what result I got but I did put in a crap load of time in the DTMs and group A's.
I like the idea about mixed league racing, the more the better but I do hope all attempts are made to make it not feel elitist.
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There is only one goal: to beat ARSE, and that means fielding our best team. Fear not, it won't be a frequent event, I'm sure.
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At the risk of sounding like an ARSE licker - I think it should be a captasins pick team. You guys know the XGN racers the best and also know who you would like to have covering your ARSE.
Was that one too many ARSE :-[ :-[
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At the risk of sounding like an ARSE licker - I think it should be a captasins pick team. You guys know the XGN racers the best and also know who you would like to have covering your ARSE.
Was that one too many ARSE :-[ :-[
I have stats for everything ;)
There's also RSR times to consider as a guideline.
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Perhaps one of the new cars like the Mercedes GT or La Fez?
I'd be up for it, although I don't know how competitive I'd be at the moment.
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So I take it Darren and Ben are both mostly into ARSE, but we have dick and he can deal with them. ;D He may not have sheer pace but neither will anyone else after they have dealt with him.
Would be a bit of fun I think, not sure why guy wouldnt be competitive unless his girly knee is still giving him troubles.
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I'm sure I can Dick these ARSEs
But keeping up with them is another story..
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You could wait for them a lap down and cause mysterious accidents...
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You could wait for them a lap down and cause mysterious accidents...
DONT POST ANOTHER THING.'
check your post's number.
grats
edit.. Too late you've ruined it.
And mysterious accidents? More of a Marty thing. I just happen to be in the general area most off the time..
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You could wait for them a lap down and cause mysterious accidents...
DONT POST ANOTHER THING.'
check your post's number.
grats
Eh, I could change that anytime. No biggie. :) I've got my karma....altho I have to update it regularly, it seems newcomers don't know the rule. Or maybe you're Dicking with me, who knows...
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Time for another update......
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Hope i get a look in
Just lettin ya know i was one of the first registerd ARSE guys and an original from RSS ( to prove it i will put a link up)
who do i pick or get picked from
you realise if neither of you pick me i will sulk for a day
http://arseforums.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=19349
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I'm not sure at this point if either side gets to "pick", rather you declare your allegiance. Like Darren did.
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I did this sort of event in GPL with another league. We had a points table giving 1 point per place. 25 for 1st, 24 for 2nd etc. Highest points for the team won. That way everyone has to pull their weight :)
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I did this sort of event in GPL with another league. We had a points table giving 1 point per place. 25 for 1st, 24 for 2nd etc. Highest points for the team won. That way everyone has to pull their weight :)
Darren, do you feel that it is pretty much guaranteed that the current fastest driver will win? In our league Guybrush will win and Marty will come second by .451sec nearly every race left to their own devices - ie not taken out by us or each other ;)
You haven't run many XGN races but I understand that it would be a similar result if you were to participate in one of our races ie You first, Guybrush second, Marty third. If this is not the case then ok. If it is the case then will the challenge races be interesting if the outcome is pretty much predetermined? Your points allocation for the entire field does address that concern to some extent however.
This is mostly academic interest on my part. I am most likely a spectator and my main beef is that AC doesn't support spectating :) - this challenge would be great fun to watch live!
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I did this sort of event in GPL with another league. We had a points table giving 1 point per place. 25 for 1st, 24 for 2nd etc. Highest points for the team won. That way everyone has to pull their weight :)
I think this kind of points system works well for a one off team event. For a championship it's not as good as you only have to have one DNF - disconnect, taken out, etc. - and it's almost impossible to catch up again even if you win every race. Of course you can drop the worst round, but if you have to miss a round and then have one of the issues above it makes it difficult.
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I did this sort of event in GPL with another league. We had a points table giving 1 point per place. 25 for 1st, 24 for 2nd etc. Highest points for the team won. That way everyone has to pull their weight :)
That's how I would see it working.
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I did this sort of event in GPL with another league. We had a points table giving 1 point per place. 25 for 1st, 24 for 2nd etc. Highest points for the team won. That way everyone has to pull their weight :)
That's how I would see it working.
Hehe, I was about to recommend doing something like that. Otherwise most of us would be around to fill the track, only :)
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Yeah, it can't just be a winner takes all thing.
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Every battle counts. 8)
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Double points for the bottom rank 6 drivers in each team?
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No point getting too complicated.
Yes, that's me saying that. But we'll keep this simple... for the ARSE guys ;)
Norbs and I are talking about it.
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Darren, do you feel that it is pretty much guaranteed that the current fastest driver will win? In our league Guybrush will win and Marty will come second by .451sec nearly every race left to their own devices - ie not taken out by us or each other ;)
They have the highest probability, but it's certainly not guaranteed. In one of the races myself and team mate Luke McLean qualified a fair bit faster than everyone else. We both crashed out in a ditch 4 corners into the first lap :)
That's not the point though. The idea is to try to make it a true team event by giving everyone in the field something to race for and without putting emphasis on the few quickest drivers.
iRacing's club points work in a similar way. On there you get a point for every member of another club that you finish ahead of.
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Btw, since it's not decided what we'll race, let's do the F40 :D
I have a great skin for it, now !
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Http://arseforums.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=94&t=19722
We're still working out details.
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I'll post details tonight. Should be fun.
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What about adding up all the laptimes for each team and collectively we know which team is faster?
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Is it considered a faux-pas if you join 2 different leagues and race in both?
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What about adding up all the laptimes for each team and collectively we know which team is faster?
I can give you an indicator; they seem to be lining up an old ace team from the LFS times. These guys used to run Darren-quick, and there's 5-6 of them at least. Hopefully some of them are rusty.
One is actually running in the Porsche cup, so hopefully he won't have time to participate, or practice much....
Hence my sadness over Darren's capitulation.
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Is it considered a faux-pas if you join 2 different leagues and race in both?
Not if you can race two cars at once.
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What about adding up all the laptimes for each team and collectively we know which team is faster?
I can give you an indicator; they seem to be lining up an old ace team from the LFS times. These guys used to run Darren-quick, and there's 5-6 of them at least. Hopefully some of them are rusty.
One is actually running in the Porsche cup, so hopefully he won't have time to participate, or practice much....
Hence my sadness over Darren's capitulation.
You sound worried Steve?
Updated our discussion and have a few volunteers. ;)
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This should strike fear or at least uncertainty into the competition..
1st draft...
(http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n497/mogwai101/Screenshot_tatuusfa1_spa_21-10-2014-6-2-24.jpg)
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You sound worried Steve?
Yeah, well, I'm past worried seeing your list of names...:)
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Lol Dick. It scares me... about the state of your mind!
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Lol Dick. It scares me... about the state of your mind!
All about having a few laughs and stepping outside the box. I hope one day XGN will have hello kitty as standard skins..
Until then I will be relentless, all you stiff shirts can shove it..
Fine, here is something conservative as well. Prototype, it needs more.. and darker green..
(http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n497/mogwai101/Screenshot_tatuusfa1_spa_21-10-2014-6-53-34.jpg)
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hehe, like the subtle finger on the wing....shame there's no rear facing surface to this car you can paint it on.
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Can you do a Voltron one please Dick. I'm talking about the classic 80's Voltron, not whatever rubbish the kids watch these days.
Voltron = winner!
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Can you do a Voltron one please Dick. I'm talking about the classic 80's Voltron, not whatever rubbish the kids watch these days.
Voltron = winner!
I will do my best. For the Abarth?
How about the hotwheels F40? That came out awesome. Bird is probably driving it right now.
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ok I'll stop here for now. Don't even know if the Abarth has been selected or whatever is going on lol
(http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n497/mogwai101/Screenshot_tatuusfa1_spa_21-10-2014-8-5-40.jpg)
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Can you do a Voltron one please Dick. I'm talking about the classic 80's Voltron, not whatever rubbish the kids watch these days.
Voltron = winner!
I will do my best. For the Abarth?
How about the hotwheels F40? That came out awesome. Bird is probably driving it right now.
I'd 3D print it out and put it on my desk, if I had a colour 3D printer...:)
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would it be hard to model on based on a snake skin?
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=snake+skin&rlz=1C1CHMD_enAU599AU599&espv=2&biw=1920&bih=979&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=CLBFVNKuKoWG8QX5qYHACg&ved=0CBwQsAQ
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would it be hard to model on based on a snake skin?
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=snake+skin&rlz=1C1CHMD_enAU599AU599&espv=2&biw=1920&bih=979&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=CLBFVNKuKoWG8QX5qYHACg&ved=0CBwQsAQ
I'll see what I can do.
I've done a cobra that is kinda snake skin.. kinda.
(http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n497/mogwai101/Showroom_shelby_cobra_sc_23-8-2014-18-2-57.jpg)
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leafy! :)
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Snake skin enough?
Do you have matching cowboy boots Phil?
(http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n497/mogwai101/Screenshot_tatuusfa1_spa_21-10-2014-10-18-38.jpg)
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If Dick is in charge of skinning I think it will be quite easy to see who the enemy is, thats unless they also have an odd guy doing their skins. ;D
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Love the snake skin!
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Love the snake skin!
It's terrible! The kinda thing Marty might drive on his way to boot-skooting night. aka tennis.
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Love the snake skin!
Agree.
If we could have all sorts of snakes (https://www.google.com.au/search?q=beautiful+snakes&client=firefox-a&hs=R5l&sa=X&rls=org.mozilla:en-AU:official&channel=sb&biw=1670&bih=935&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&ei=scpFVKyzEYmA8QWCg4D4BA&ved=0CB4QsAQ) as a field...how good that'd be!
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Love the snake skin!
Agree.
If we could have all sorts of snakes (https://www.google.com.au/search?q=beautiful+snakes&client=firefox-a&hs=R5l&sa=X&rls=org.mozilla:en-AU:official&channel=sb&biw=1670&bih=935&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&ei=scpFVKyzEYmA8QWCg4D4BA&ved=0CB4QsAQ) as a field...how good that'd be!
there are some pretty snakes in there..A few photoshop ones. Some very un-natural colours
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So am I the only one voting for the Hello Kitty skin?
Unless Voltron makes an appearance anyway.
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So am I the only one voting for the Hello Kitty skin?
I'm easy. But we're just throwing ideas around at this stage, aren't we?
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So am I the only one voting for the Hello Kitty skin?
Unless Voltron makes an appearance anyway.
(http://www.voltronuniverse.com/Lion/VoltronForce/Voltron.gif)
Now that's an appearance.
I'll be working on one. he needs extra attention. I'm just doing RL stuff atm
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ok, last 'tinnitus' skin i do for now. 1st Voltron prototype.
I've thrown out a few Dick skins for you all. Let me know if you want to slip your rig into any of them. Maybe you only like a little bit, like, just the tip. It's all negotiable, We can talk...
(http://i.imgur.com/fxGhnjc.jpg)
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I wish you lived near me, when you get bored instead of 'skining' you could come around and help me paint one of my cars! ;D
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I wish you lived near me, when you get bored instead of 'skining' you could come around and help me paint one of my cars! ;D
lol if you want people to laugh at you car. :D
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Hello.
I'd like to race in this if possible. I can make any night generally that isn't a tuesday or a thursday.
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Hello.
I'd like to race in this if possible. I can make any night generally that isn't a tuesday or a thursday.
Hi Ben, I think it might be a little difficult to move it off those nights to find another night that suits the majority, I'm afraid.
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If Ben will be racing for team XGN we should be able to find another nite, if he is driving for the enemy then lets lock in Tuesday nite. ;D
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As much as I'd like to have Ben race for us, I don't want to start scouting around for another night that other true blue XGNers aren't going to be able to make.
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If you need padding, I'm in 8) , and in any any skinned Cobra :-*