« previous next » Print Pages: 1 2 3 Author Topic: S7R4: Spa Pre-Race Chat (Read 19292 times) marty Hero Member Posts: 3747 Karma: -63 Re: S7R4: Spa Pre-Race Chat « Reply #15 on: June 13, 2015, 02:58:06 PM » I just ran a couple laps and I think PLP is too forgiving here its almost impossible to get a cut, I think it may be worth giving it a go at only 2 tyres out rather then 3 because there are spots you can run 2 cars wide of the track and not get called for it, tightening the rule will just make people stick more to the actual track as Imola was also being over abused I think. Not that its a real advantage if you run wide by accident but if you were to intend to run wide then you can carry much more speed through the apexes and the lines you can get away with at Spa is a bit silly. Compare the lines we can drive against those onboard videos and its easily worth a few seconds a lap.Here is the last dry f1 pole lap at Spa from 2012 notice how he keeps 2 wheels inside the white line at all times. We are able to go 4 wheels onto astro without a call at most corners.[youtube]kqYoZ2D9_b4[/youtube]Here is an oboard qualy run in a gt car[youtube]Y7huvqSpqxg[/youtube] « Last Edit: June 13, 2015, 03:08:33 PM by marty » Logged Guybrush Threepwood Hero Member Posts: 2133 Karma: 69 Re: S7R4: Spa Pre-Race Chat « Reply #16 on: June 13, 2015, 05:18:11 PM » I think it depends more on the car than what is and isn't allowed.For example this qualifying lap from last year (second lap in vid), Lotterer goes all four wheels outside the lines on at least a couple of occassions, and Ricciardo also went all four wheels outside at blanchimont which was allowed (although more of a mistake in the wet but held it flat).[youtube]_pu_4yH5tpg[/youtube]I think it's quicker though to not go outside the lines if you can get it right, which is probably why they are fairly lenient on that. Logged Wally Administrator Hero Member Posts: 11033 Karma: 152 AC Admin Re: S7R4: Spa Pre-Race Chat « Reply #17 on: June 13, 2015, 05:28:10 PM » I've just been looking at the number of wheels out of the track that AC reports to the PLP app at Spa, and it's surprisingly liberal. I.e. there are many areas where you can be completely outside of the white lines, but still on the green "turf", and the games says you have 0 wheels off the track. In a lot of places, AC regards the outside edge of the green tarmac as the track limit. There's not much the PLP app can do about such relaxed track limits unfortunately. Logged “You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time” marty Hero Member Posts: 3747 Karma: -63 Re: S7R4: Spa Pre-Race Chat « Reply #18 on: June 13, 2015, 07:43:50 PM » Quote from: Wally on June 13, 2015, 05:28:10 PMI've just been looking at the number of wheels out of the track that AC reports to the PLP app at Spa, and it's surprisingly liberal. I.e. there are many areas where you can be completely outside of the white lines, but still on the green "turf", and the games says you have 0 wheels off the track. In a lot of places, AC regards the outside edge of the green tarmac as the track limit. There's not much the PLP app can do about such relaxed track limits unfortunately.Thats what I expected and its pretty poor that it does that, there is a way of fixing that possibly and I will take a look. Its just within the tracks surfaces.ini file.[SURFACE_0]KEY=CONCRETEFRICTION=0.85DAMPING=0WAV=WAV_PITCH=0FF_EFFECT=NULLDIRT_ADDITIVE=0IS_VALID_TRACK=1BLACK_FLAG_TIME=0SIN_HEIGHT=0SIN_LENGTH=0IS_PITLANE=0VIBRATION_GAIN=0VIBRATION_LENGTH=0[SURFACE_1]KEY=CARPETFRICTION=0.65DAMPING=0WAV=extraturf.wavWAV_PITCH=0FF_EFFECT=NULLDIRT_ADDITIVE=0.1IS_VALID_TRACK=1BLACK_FLAG_TIME=0SIN_HEIGHT=0SIN_LENGTH=0IS_PITLANE=0VIBRATION_GAIN=0VIBRATION_LENGTH=0If there was an edit to this then you can control what is and isnt valid track, I really dont know why kunos makes carpet and kerbs valid track. But any change made here would be the same as last round and best if another track version was made as editing this and running rsr on the track will get you banned. Logged Gratulin Hero Member Posts: 2159 Karma: 44 Re: S7R4: Spa Pre-Race Chat « Reply #19 on: June 13, 2015, 07:52:01 PM » Is it duelling videos Logged rob RestrictedRacing Full Member Posts: 539 Karma: 26 Re: S7R4: Spa Pre-Race Chat « Reply #20 on: June 15, 2015, 04:29:20 PM » Hey Wally, my pc is still down so I think you'd better line up a reserve for tomorrow. Hopefully I'll only be out for 1 week. rob Logged Wally Administrator Hero Member Posts: 11033 Karma: 152 AC Admin Re: S7R4: Spa Pre-Race Chat « Reply #21 on: June 15, 2015, 05:41:43 PM » Quote from: rob on June 15, 2015, 04:29:20 PMHey Wally, my pc is still down so I think you'd better line up a reserve for tomorrow. Hopefully I'll only be out for 1 week. robBad luck Rob. I hope you can get it sorted out without too many dramas. Logged “You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time” marty Hero Member Posts: 3747 Karma: -63 Re: S7R4: Spa Pre-Race Chat « Reply #22 on: June 16, 2015, 03:42:51 PM » I think it should be an interesting race this round as the 2 cars are a bit closer here then all other tracks, the Lafa is a fair bit easier to drive but laptime wise for me its only fractionally quicker then the p1. Logged Wally Administrator Hero Member Posts: 11033 Karma: 152 AC Admin Re: S7R4: Spa Pre-Race Chat « Reply #23 on: June 16, 2015, 06:14:12 PM » Quote from: marty on June 16, 2015, 03:42:51 PMI think it should be an interesting race this round as the 2 cars are a bit closer here then all other tracks, the Lafa is a fair bit easier to drive but laptime wise for me its only fractionally quicker then the p1.According to my RSR stats, the comparison here at Spa is below. Nothing in it! Ferrari La Ferrari137.6McLaren P1137 Logged “You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time” Shameless_1 Sr. Member Posts: 326 Karma: 1 Re: S7R4: Spa Pre-Race Chat « Reply #24 on: June 16, 2015, 06:17:36 PM » UnFknBLievable is out for tonight with the flu.I'm out with a rotten headache and aches and pains from the weather changes.have a good race guys. Logged --- A quitter never races and a Racer never quits. --- Wally Administrator Hero Member Posts: 11033 Karma: 152 AC Admin Re: S7R4: Spa Pre-Race Chat « Reply #25 on: June 16, 2015, 07:07:04 PM » My Internet's shat itself - local exchange outage. I may or may not be there, but the show will go on regardless, with just the one race tonight. Logged “You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time” Rolz Guest Re: S7R4: Spa Pre-Race Chat « Reply #26 on: June 16, 2015, 07:10:37 PM » re-read the format and now understand why I'm running out of fuel so quickly... with no practice and my setup from Silverstone I don't think I'll do any good here tonight... still I'm here and looking forward to it Logged steve_xland Newbie Posts: 13 Karma: 0 Re: S7R4: Spa Pre-Race Chat « Reply #27 on: June 16, 2015, 07:48:05 PM » Not gonna run tonight.I am not liking these cars & will wait for some modern Race machines later on.I've put mountains of practice in but just can't seem to gel at all.Good luck all. Logged "that;s what she actually looks like!" - Pablo Picasso Wally Administrator Hero Member Posts: 11033 Karma: 152 AC Admin Re: S7R4: Spa Pre-Race Chat « Reply #28 on: June 16, 2015, 10:09:17 PM » Quote from: steve_xland on June 16, 2015, 07:48:05 PMNot gonna run tonight.I am not liking these cars & will wait for some modern Race machines later on.I've put mountains of practice in but just can't seem to gel at all.Good luck all.No worries Steve. Keep an eye on the forums to see what comes up. We had some good matched pace for a few races there. Logged “You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time” StanDaam Full Member Posts: 529 Karma: 11 Re: S7R4: Spa Pre-Race Chat « Reply #29 on: June 16, 2015, 10:22:32 PM » Quote from: Wally on June 16, 2015, 07:07:04 PMMy Internet's shat itself - local exchange outage. I may or may not be there, but the show will go on regardless, with just the one race tonight.Hard Luck Wally... Logged Print Pages: 1 2 3 « previous next » Xtreme Gaming Network / Simulation Racing Leagues / Assetto Corsa / Australian Assetto Corsa League, Tuesday nights (Moderator: Wally) / S7R4: Spa Pre-Race Chat