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Round 3: Mugello Race Chat

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Re: Round 3: Mugello Race Chat
« Reply #105 on: August 13, 2014, 08:50:33 PM »
[youtube]nyXEMdigCmQ[/youtube]

loved the music u added in when u got past me... after that it was off into the sun set and I just couldn't keep up.
Was pretty awesome racing :)

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« Reply #106 on: August 13, 2014, 09:25:12 PM »
Marty and Glen, how are you guys encoding this for Youtube? Mine always look like rubbish. Are you recording at full screen resolution? I'm then encoding with AviDemux to H.264/AAC, two pass bit rate of 5000. I only recorded at half screen size in FRAPS, which is probably too low(?).
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« Reply #107 on: August 13, 2014, 09:34:26 PM »
Marty's video looks a bit sharper than mine, I used fraps and then good old win movie maker. I will check tomorrow for you.

Recording fraps at 1920X1080p

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« Reply #108 on: August 13, 2014, 10:46:00 PM »
Marty and Glen, how are you guys encoding this for Youtube? Mine always look like rubbish. Are you recording at full screen resolution? I'm then encoding with AviDemux to H.264/AAC, two pass bit rate of 5000. I only recorded at half screen size in FRAPS, which is probably too low(?).

Im using Nvidia Shadowplay capturing in game at 4k but shadowplay converts this to 2560x1440 which is its maximum encoding res atm. This is what I normally encode to yt in but being a longer video I just made it 1080p to reduce the end bitrate and file size. The higher res does make the end video quite a bit sharper but even capturing at 1080p shadowplay does ok.

I edit and encode in Premiere pro at fairly high bit-rates 1080p around 20Mbps 1440 around 30Mbps. Youtube does re-compress to much lower rates but I have found if you want to not butcher it too much you need to give it a pretty good quality file. If you already compress it to around 6-7Mbps which is what a 1080p yt stream will end up at it will look pretty crappy.

Unfortunately there is no way of encoding a file for yt where it wont re-encode it so you just need to give it a very high quality source if you want an ok end result. YT actually suggests for best quality to encode at 50Mbps for 1080p but I think thats overkill in most cases and 20-25 will end up looking quite good still.

But when it comes to enoding there is no point ever encoding at a higher rate then your source file, but each re-encode loses quality so your best of giving it something good or it will properly butcher the end video.

Shadowplay encodes files in 50Mbps which is still a smaller file then what fraps will give you but if you want to get a good result after the yt butchering best to encode a 1080p file in H264 MP4 format 2 pass encode with a bitrate of at least 20Mbps.

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« Reply #109 on: August 14, 2014, 08:19:17 AM »
So it sounds like I have to record at the highest resolution possible and then use a massive bitrate. How big does your file to upload end up being?
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« Reply #110 on: August 14, 2014, 08:38:47 AM »
geezuss, Marty, you must have some industrial pipe there for uploading...

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Re: Round 3: Mugello Race Chat
« Reply #111 on: August 14, 2014, 02:58:24 PM »
As a reference for quality I had a bit rate of 24Mbps which worked out to be 173M per minute of video, that video was 611 meg all up once completed. I think if you put a lot of time into the video then you want some half decent quality by the end of it on Yt.

Edit: And Bird, it is only a bit over an hour to upload that, not to long in my book.
« Last Edit: August 14, 2014, 03:02:20 PM by Glen73 »

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« Reply #112 on: August 14, 2014, 03:01:49 PM »
Yeah, makes sense... and then you need the patience to wait for the upload.
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« Reply #113 on: August 14, 2014, 03:03:08 PM »
Yeah, makes sense... and then you need the patience to wait for the upload.

1 hour 20 min.

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« Reply #114 on: August 14, 2014, 03:04:20 PM »
If only I could upload the video from the race server... at over 60 megabytes/sec.
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« Reply #115 on: August 14, 2014, 03:07:50 PM »
We would all be using cloud servers then as web PC's ;D

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« Reply #116 on: August 14, 2014, 03:27:05 PM »
We would all be using cloud servers then as web PC's ;D

Keep laughing but it's probable that we'll arrive to that point (again) Altho first we need that bloody NBN - the proper one! 
And at that point it won't matter that much anymore... :)

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« Reply #117 on: August 14, 2014, 11:48:49 PM »
Yeah, makes sense... and then you need the patience to wait for the upload.

I just start the upload before bed then its done in the morning so no waiting really.

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Re: Round 3: Mugello Race Chat
« Reply #118 on: August 16, 2014, 01:26:31 PM »
Here is another video uploaded not league stuff but just testing yt upload quality encoded at 1440p 35Mbps, no idea how long it took as I uploaded it overnight. The one hounding me all race was Guybrush so its also a rare moment where I kept him behind for a full race even if its only 4 laps.  ;D

[youtube]ImDBsZLCkyU[/youtube]

 

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