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Title: Season 19 thoughts
Post by: Wally on September 20, 2017, 08:11:16 PM
With the Excort season drawing to a close, it's time to start thinking about the next season. I'd be keen to try a multiclass season, with something like these two options:
I see it being like an hour race, set up so that the faster class will lap the slower class several times. I'd use ballast and/or restrictor for certain makes to try to get them closer in terms of performance. One thing I'd like to achieve somehow is fairly balanced numbers in each class, i.e. I wouldn't want to see everyone in GT3's with only a couple of LMP1 cars.
What do you reckon?
Title: Re: Season 19 thoughts
Post by: Bacchulum on September 20, 2017, 08:16:56 PM
We're long overdue a multi-class season and I'm inclined to vote for the modern one.
Between Thursdays and the Escort season, even I'm all historic-ed out. :o
Title: Re: Season 19 thoughts
Post by: buellersdayoff on September 20, 2017, 08:38:44 PM
We're long overdue a multi-class season and I'm inclined to vote for the modern one.
Between Thursdays and the Escort season, even I'm all historic-ed out. :o
Agreed
Title: Re: Season 19 thoughts
Post by: Phil.8 on September 20, 2017, 08:48:07 PM
We're long overdue a multi-class season and I'm inclined to vote for the modern one.
Between Thursdays and the Escort season, even I'm all historic-ed out. :o
Agreed
agreed agreed
Title: Re: Season 19 thoughts
Post by: GymnasticHippo on September 20, 2017, 09:25:30 PM
One more vote for modern :)
Title: Re: Season 19 thoughts
Post by: Freezer on September 20, 2017, 10:26:56 PM
We're long overdue a multi-class season and I'm inclined to vote for the modern one.
Between Thursdays and the Escort season, even I'm all historic-ed out. :o
Agreed
agreed agreed
agreed agreed +1
Title: Re: Season 19 thoughts
Post by: Wally on September 20, 2017, 10:41:29 PM
I'm sensing a trend here......
Title: Re: Season 19 thoughts
Post by: Shayne on September 20, 2017, 11:15:29 PM
+1 for modern
Title: Re: Season 19 thoughts
Post by: Mael on September 21, 2017, 10:33:04 AM
Lotus 49?
Title: Re: Season 19 thoughts
Post by: AJ on September 21, 2017, 10:48:20 AM
While I do prefer the older cars personally I feel like the modern car season would work better.
Title: Re: Season 19 thoughts
Post by: Wally on September 21, 2017, 12:33:04 PM
Lotus 49?
Go and stand in the corner!
Title: Re: Season 19 thoughts
Post by: Joe on September 21, 2017, 01:01:55 PM
Lotus 49?
Go and stand in the corner!

Nobody puts Mael in the corner.
Title: Re: Season 19 thoughts
Post by: Mael on September 21, 2017, 03:36:11 PM
Lotus 49?
Go and stand in the corner!
Nobody puts Mael in the corner.

Now armco's That's a different matter!

If we going to do multi-class races how about requiring teams to be split into the two classes?  It may help to balance the class numbers.


Title: Re: Season 19 thoughts
Post by: Bacchulum on September 21, 2017, 04:09:13 PM
I'm not really worried about the class splits.
In the WEC, there's only 8 LMP1's (at best) in a field of over 50 cars, so if we get more than that were ahead of the FIA. ;)
So as long as we hit 1:4, I think it would OK. 8)
Title: Re: Season 19 thoughts
Post by: Joe on September 21, 2017, 05:26:49 PM
Lotus 49?
Go and stand in the corner!
Nobody puts Mael in the corner.

Now armco's That's a different matter!


You do that all on your own
Title: Re: Season 19 thoughts
Post by: Wally on September 21, 2017, 05:27:46 PM
I'm not really worried about the class splits.
In the WEC, there's only 8 LMP1's (at best) in a field of over 50 cars, so if we get more than that were ahead of the FIA. ;)
So as long as we hit 1:4, I think it would OK. 8)
Just so long as it doesn't just turn into another de facto GT3 season.
Title: Re: Season 19 thoughts
Post by: Bacchulum on September 21, 2017, 06:06:44 PM
I think there'll be plenty of prototype runners, without intervention. ;)
Title: Re: Season 19 thoughts
Post by: AJ on September 21, 2017, 07:07:33 PM
Could always do a split season where everybody has to race one for the 1st half the season and the other for the 2nd half like we have done in the past?
Title: Re: Season 19 thoughts
Post by: Slow_As on September 21, 2017, 07:14:44 PM
Modern here too. Split class sounds good.
Title: Re: Season 19 thoughts
Post by: Wally on September 21, 2017, 07:27:39 PM
Could always do a split season where everybody has to race one for the 1st half the season and the other for the 2nd half like we have done in the past?
Yeah, that would probably work.
Title: Re: Season 19 thoughts
Post by: SkilletKid on September 21, 2017, 08:05:05 PM
Shame that Assetto doesn't have too many LMP2s to run an LMP2 class (aside from the AER Mod with the Oreca and Corvette DPs).

And my new job has meant I can't participate in the Tuesday night races anymore =[ Thursdays I might be able to stretch to come to.
Title: Re: Season 19 thoughts
Post by: Wally on September 21, 2017, 09:40:45 PM
Shame that Assetto doesn't have too many LMP2s to run an LMP2 class (aside from the AER Mod with the Oreca and Corvette DPs).

And my new job has meant I can't participate in the Tuesday night races anymore =[ Thursdays I might be able to stretch to come to.
Bad luck about Tuesdays. You clearly have to quit that job, for work/life balance.
Title: Re: Season 19 thoughts
Post by: Wally on September 23, 2017, 09:22:11 AM
I'm thinking 4 tracks, where everyone does one pass in LMP1 or GT3, then swaps to the other class for a second pass through the same 4 tracks.


Or would people rather just stick in their class and have more circuits? You wouldn't be able to switch classes - it messes standings up too much.
Title: Re: Season 19 thoughts
Post by: Bacchulum on September 23, 2017, 10:04:26 AM
I'd rather stay in class for the whole season.
Title: Re: Season 19 thoughts
Post by: buellersdayoff on September 23, 2017, 10:47:27 AM
I'd rather stay in class for the whole season.
Agreed lol
Title: Re: Season 19 thoughts
Post by: Wally on September 23, 2017, 11:42:14 AM
I get it now....  :o


Another thought... in the real WEC, the different classes have separate qualifying sessions, to get clearer track. While that sounds like a good idea, in the interests of time we'd probably have a combined qualifying.


And I chose GT3 cars instead of GTE (GT2's etc) because they're a little bit slower and we get more lapping by the LMP1 class that way.
Title: Re: Season 19 thoughts
Post by: Wally on September 23, 2017, 02:41:32 PM
I'd rather stay in class for the whole season.
Agreed lol
Ditto.

But without any restriction on changing cars if you 'really' need to.
I'd be OK with changing cars if you really can't stand your class, but I think it would be fair if you couldn't carry your points from one class to the next. Just because you might be able to go well in a GT3, for example, doesn't mean that you could have got the same points in an LMP1 and vice versa.
Title: Re: Season 19 thoughts
Post by: Shameless_1 on September 25, 2017, 12:27:49 AM
I'd like to see us stick to 1 car throughout the season rather than swap.  For those of us who don't race/practice a lot, having one car for a season we improve with the setup and driving the car.. swapping can often feel foreign (for me) and takes a few races to get into the groove of a new car.

I think LMP1/GT3 would be good. The only newish gt3 would be the Audi LMS 2016.. there's no other gt3 class that came out in the last update?
Title: Re: Season 19 thoughts
Post by: Wally on September 25, 2017, 08:16:21 AM
I'd like to see us stick to 1 car throughout the season rather than swap.  For those of us who don't race/practice a lot, having one car for a season we improve with the setup and driving the car.. swapping can often feel foreign (for me) and takes a few races to get into the groove of a new car.

I think LMP1/GT3 would be good. The only newish gt3 would be the Audi LMS 2016.. there's no other gt3 class that came out in the last update?
I think the last GT3 was one of the Ferraris, but that came out a little while ago. I have a short list of closely performing GT3 cars in mind already.
Title: Re: Season 19 thoughts
Post by: Wally on September 25, 2017, 10:32:24 AM
Cars
Audi 2014 Hybrid
Toyota 2014 Hybrid
Porsche 2015 Hybrid (with restrictor)

Audi R8 LMS 2016
BMW Z4 GT3
Ferrari 488 GT3
Lamborghini Huracan GT3
Mercedes-Benz AMG GT3
Nissan GT-R GT3

Circuits
Silverstone
Spa
LeMans
Nurburgring
Paul Ricard
Shanghai
Bahrain

All circuits but Paul Ricard are on the WEC calendar.
Title: Re: Season 19 thoughts
Post by: AJ on September 25, 2017, 04:10:34 PM
Sounds awesome Wally  ;D
Title: Re: Season 19 thoughts
Post by: Shayne on September 25, 2017, 04:22:58 PM
Is nurburgring going to be the nordschleife or just the GP track?
Title: Re: Season 19 thoughts
Post by: Wally on September 25, 2017, 04:36:40 PM
Is nurburgring going to be the nordschleife or just the GP track?


GP version


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/6_Hours_of_N%C3%BCrburgring
Title: Re: Season 19 thoughts
Post by: Bacchulum on September 25, 2017, 05:39:02 PM
Almost the GP version.
Don't they use the other chicane? ???
Title: Re: Season 19 thoughts
Post by: Simone on September 25, 2017, 08:16:24 PM
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Title: Re: Season 19 thoughts
Post by: Wally on September 25, 2017, 10:22:16 PM
Almost the GP version.
Don't they use the other chicane? ???
Looks like the GP chicken to me, not the GT one.
Title: Re: Season 19 thoughts
Post by: Matthew111 on September 27, 2017, 08:15:29 PM
Not sure about the split category thing, i fear you will just end up with just 2 small grids that are running at the same time taking away the competitiveness for instance the escorts you had a fairly big field that was pretty closely matched so no matter where you were in the field you had to fight for the position with a heap of cars and it rewarded consistency. With two small gt fields i can see 2 groups of 10 if that by seasons end spread apart hot lapping lol. Id prefer to see everyone in the wec cars with restrictors etc i think that be really cool
Title: Re: Season 19 thoughts
Post by: Wally on September 27, 2017, 11:27:28 PM
Not sure about the split category thing, i fear you will just end up with just 2 small grids that are running at the same time taking away the competitiveness for instance the escorts you had a fairly big field that was pretty closely matched so no matter where you were in the field you had to fight for the position with a heap of cars and it rewarded consistency. With two small gt fields i can see 2 groups of 10 if that by seasons end spread apart hot lapping lol. Id prefer to see everyone in the wec cars with restrictors etc i think that be really cool
We did have a trial race some time ago with split classes and it was quite good fun when cars were being lapped several times. It's a challenge for both classes, both of which might be battling for position in their respective classes. It's also something new. I certainly reckon it's worth a try.
Title: Re: Season 19 thoughts
Post by: Shameless_1 on September 28, 2017, 02:06:05 AM
Not sure about the split category thing, i fear you will just end up with just 2 small grids that are running at the same time taking away the competitiveness for instance the escorts you had a fairly big field that was pretty closely matched so no matter where you were in the field you had to fight for the position with a heap of cars and it rewarded consistency. With two small gt fields i can see 2 groups of 10 if that by seasons end spread apart hot lapping lol. Id prefer to see everyone in the wec cars with restrictors etc i think that be really cool

Here is a video made from our last race with mixed classes on Paul ricard, watch this and see what you think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lchUvvLer_I&t=4s
Title: Re: Season 19 thoughts
Post by: Wally on September 28, 2017, 07:39:52 AM
Nice one Shameless. I'd forgotten we had that video.
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