« previous next » Print Pages: 1 2 Author Topic: Cars sorted by average lap times (Read 15424 times) Wally Administrator Hero Member Posts: 11033 Karma: 152 AC Admin Cars sorted by average lap times « on: March 21, 2015, 05:48:16 PM » Courtesy of the RSR rank, I have sorted all the AC cars by relative performance, so you can see what car matches up with what. The number for each car below is the average lap time, in seconds, averaged across Spa, Mugello, Imola, Silverstone, Nurburgring GP, Vallelunga, Monza and Magione. The lap time taken is the average of all lap times at a track from the world record to 5% slower e.g. if the world record was 100 seconds, lap times from 1:40 to 1:45 (105 seconds).This is the AC 1.1+ car rank (where 1.000 is the fastest time). 1.009Lotus Exos 125 Stage 11.062Lotus 98T1.082Lotus Exos 1251.160Mazda 787B1.173Mercedes-Benz C9 1989 LM1.176McLaren P11.181Pagani Zonda R1.184Ferrari 599XX EVO1.185Ferrari La Ferrari1.200Ferrari 458 GT21.210Nissan GT-R GT31.211Corvette C7R1.215BMW M3 GT21.215McLaren MP4-12C GT31.219BMW Z4 GT31.220Formula Abarth1.222P4/5 Competizione model 20111.223Mercedes SLS AMG GT31.230Pagani Huayra1.244Ferrari 312T1.247Lotus Evora GTC1.256Ferrari 458 Italia Stage 31.258McLaren F1 GTR1.259Lotus Evora GX1.299Lotus Type 491.333Ferrari F40 Stage 31.343Alfa Romeo 155 TI V61.350Mercedes-Benz 190E EVO II1.357BMW M3 E92 drift1.360BMW M235i Racing1.361BMW M3 E30 DTM1.371Ferrari 458 Italia1.380RUF CTR Yellowbird1.385McLaren MP4-12C1.391BMW Z4 E89 Drift1.399Lotus Evora GTE Carbon1.400Ferrari F401.408Lotus 2 Eleven GT41.410Mercedes SLS AMG1.411BMW M3 E30 Group A1.412KTM X-Bow R1.418Lotus 2 Eleven1.420Lotus Exige S1.432Shelby Cobra 427 S/C1.436Lotus Exige 240R Stage31.436Lotus Evora S Stage 21.446Lotus Exige V6 CUP1.446Lotus Exige S roadster1.450BMW M3 E92 Step11.453Alfa Romeo 4C1.456Lotus Evora GTE1.456BMW M3 E921.458BMW 1M Stage 31.475BMW 1M1.482Lotus Evora S1.499Lotus Elise SC1.502Lotus Exige 240R1.504Lotus Elise SC Step21.508Lotus Elise SC Step11.509Lotus Exige Scura1.525BMW Z4 E89 Step11.526BMW Z4 E891.547BMW M3 E30 Step11.560BMW M3 E301.568Giulietta QV1.571Alfa Romeo GTA1.596Abarth 500 EsseEsse Step11.600Giulietta QV Launch Edition 20141.601Abarth 500 EsseEsse2.353BMW M3 E30 DriftAC 1.02+ CAR RANK (average lap times) 88.2 Lotus 98T 90.5 Lotus Exos 125 Stage 1 96.5 Lotus Exos 125 102.9 Mazda 787B 104.6 Pagani Zonda R 105.8 Ferrari 599XX EVO 106.6 Mercedes-Benz C9 1989 LM 107.1 McLaren P1 107.8 Ferrari La Ferrari 108.8 Ferrari 458 GT2 109.3 BMW M3 GT2 109.9 McLaren MP4-12C GT3 110.0 Formula Abarth 110.2 Mercedes SLS AMG GT3 110.4 Corvette C7R 110.4 Nissan GT-R GT3 110.6 BMW Z4 GT3 110.8 Ferrari 312T 110.8 P4/5 Competizione model 2011 111.4 Pagani Huayra 111.6 Lotus Evora GX 112.3 Lotus Evora GTC 112.8 Ferrari 458 Italia Stage 3 114.7 McLaren F1 GTR 116.7 Lotus Type 49 118.7 Ferrari F40 Stage 3 122.5 Alfa Romeo 155 TI V6 122.7 BMW M3 E30 DTM 123.1 Mercedes-Benz 190E EVO II 123.7 McLaren MP4-12C 124.0 Ferrari 458 Italia 124.3 Lotus 2 Eleven GT4 124.3 BMW M235i Racing 124.5 Ferrari F40 125.0 KTM X-Bow R 125.6 RUF CTR Yellowbird 125.6 Lotus 2 Eleven 125.9 BMW M3 E30 Group A 127.6 Mercedes SLS AMG 127.8 Lotus Exige V6 CUP 128.6 Lotus Evora GTE Carbon 129.0 Lotus Exige 240R Stage3 129.0 Shelby Cobra 427 S/C 129.6 Lotus Evora GTE 130.4 Lotus Exige S 130.6 BMW 1M Stage 3 130.8 Lotus Evora S Stage 2 131.6 BMW M3 E92 Step1 131.9 Lotus Exige S roadster 132.3 Lotus Exige Scura 132.5 BMW M3 E92 132.7 Alfa Romeo 4C 133.0 Lotus Evora S 133.8 Lotus Exige 240R 133.9 BMW 1M 135.1 Lotus Elise SC 135.2 Lotus Elise SC Step1 135.9 BMW Z4 E89 Step1 136.4 Lotus Elise SC Step2 137.3 BMW M3 E30 Step1 138.1 BMW Z4 E89 138.5 BMW M3 E30 143.2 Giulietta QV Launch Edition 2014 143.3 Abarth 500 EsseEsse Step1 143.5 Alfa Romeo GTA 143.9 Giulietta QV 144.2 Abarth 500 EsseEsse « Last Edit: March 22, 2015, 10:26:31 AM by Wally » Logged “You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time” Bacchulum RestrictedRacing Hero Member Posts: 3402 Karma: 96 Re: Cars sorted by average lap times « Reply #1 on: March 21, 2015, 07:49:22 PM » Interesting the 98T trumps the Exos S1! Logged 2+2=√16 marty Hero Member Posts: 3747 Karma: -63 Re: Cars sorted by average lap times « Reply #2 on: March 22, 2015, 12:10:30 AM » Im pretty sure some cars have got slower since v1.1 so its always a bit tricky using RSR times. For example the e30 DTM has got about 3 seconds per lap slower then earlier builds likely to balance the dtm series. Other cars get changed on some updates but its cool to have this list as a ballpark to see what can likely be raced together. Logged Wally Administrator Hero Member Posts: 11033 Karma: 152 AC Admin Re: Cars sorted by average lap times « Reply #3 on: March 22, 2015, 10:27:49 AM » Quote from: marty on March 22, 2015, 12:10:30 AMIm pretty sure some cars have got slower since v1.1 so its always a bit tricky using RSR times. For example the e30 DTM has got about 3 seconds per lap slower then earlier builds likely to balance the dtm series. Other cars get changed on some updates but its cool to have this list as a ballpark to see what can likely be raced together.Good point, Marty. I've rejigged the list to only take AC 1.1+ lap times into account. There's still quite a few car/track combos with no lap times in 1.1 yet, so I'll update this list over time as we get more laps. Logged “You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time” marty Hero Member Posts: 3747 Karma: -63 Re: Cars sorted by average lap times « Reply #4 on: March 22, 2015, 01:57:59 PM » Quote from: Bacchulum on March 21, 2015, 07:49:22 PMInteresting the 98T trumps the Exos S1! 98T full boost no damage is a very different beast, even with damage you can run full boost for a couple laps on most tracks but need to turn it down to last any proper distance. In a race between the 2 I think the exos would do better as you can always run it a full power just limited by tyre life and fuel loads which will also effect the 98T. Logged Dick Forrest Hero Member Posts: 1309 Karma: 17 Contains traces of nuts! Re: Cars sorted by average lap times « Reply #5 on: April 05, 2015, 08:28:10 AM » surly this is a work in progress? I mean, it's missing a major marque....Robin- Reliant. Logged Wally Administrator Hero Member Posts: 11033 Karma: 152 AC Admin Re: Cars sorted by average lap times « Reply #6 on: April 05, 2015, 09:38:20 AM » Quote from: Dick Forrest on April 05, 2015, 08:28:10 AMsurly this is a work in progress? I mean, it's missing a major marque....Robin- Reliant.If you can get the RSR guys to include it in their rank, we're good to go! Logged “You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time” Guybrush Threepwood Hero Member Posts: 2133 Karma: 69 Re: Cars sorted by average lap times « Reply #7 on: July 24, 2015, 06:32:55 PM » Just because I'm interested in the maths behind it Wally, what is the advantage of measuring the pace based on what I assume is some sort of deviation from a standardised value vs. absolute lap time? Logged Wally Administrator Hero Member Posts: 11033 Karma: 152 AC Admin Re: Cars sorted by average lap times « Reply #8 on: July 24, 2015, 07:23:53 PM » This list is quite out of date.I'm averaging the top 5% of times for a combo. I reckon that's more representative of what the average, skilled driver can do in the car. It filters out all the ”non-serious” lap times, and doesn't put too much emphasis on what the aliens can do. My point behind this list is to sort the cars by the difference that an average driver can expect to see. Logged “You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time” marty Hero Member Posts: 3747 Karma: -63 Re: Cars sorted by average lap times « Reply #9 on: July 25, 2015, 08:57:43 AM » If you ever update this Wally (aka must be done within 30 minutes it would be interesting to see top 5% time and also the absolute top time. I wonder how much the list would actually change.For me I still see top times as the cars potential and likely more usefull but still the less used combos will throw data off a bit. That doesnt matter if using top time or 5% time its quite often a bit more off the potential when only a few laps have been set. Logged Wally Administrator Hero Member Posts: 11033 Karma: 152 AC Admin Re: Cars sorted by average lap times « Reply #10 on: July 25, 2015, 09:51:18 AM » It is more up to date on the AC forum thread.http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/car-time-ranking.22389/And even more up to date on my laptop.Just relying on the top time can't be as representative of ”real world” potential (by which I mean say, us average league racers), as the sample size is vastly smaller. Some of the popular cars have over a thousand laps in the top 5%. Logged “You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time” Guybrush Threepwood Hero Member Posts: 2133 Karma: 69 Re: Cars sorted by average lap times « Reply #11 on: July 25, 2015, 10:18:13 AM » I think the way Wally does it is accurate which we have seen when pitting different cars against each other.Just out of curiosity, what happens Wally when you use data that lies at 2 standard deviations from the average, as opposed to 3? I'm wondering whether that would be more representative of the regular user while still getting the most out of the car? « Last Edit: July 25, 2015, 10:47:38 AM by Guybrush Threepwood » Logged Wally Administrator Hero Member Posts: 11033 Karma: 152 AC Admin Re: Cars sorted by average lap times « Reply #12 on: July 25, 2015, 11:09:36 AM » Quote from: Guybrush Threepwood on July 25, 2015, 10:18:13 AMI think the way Wally does it is accurate which we have seen when pitting different cars against each other.Just out of curiosity, what happens Wally when you use data that lies at 2 standard deviations from the average, as opposed to 3? I'm wondering whether that would be more representative of the regular user while still getting the most out of the car?What standard deviation? I don't use that anywhere. Logged “You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time” Guybrush Threepwood Hero Member Posts: 2133 Karma: 69 Re: Cars sorted by average lap times « Reply #13 on: July 25, 2015, 11:22:05 AM » Quote from: Wally on July 25, 2015, 11:09:36 AMQuote from: Guybrush Threepwood on July 25, 2015, 10:18:13 AMI think the way Wally does it is accurate which we have seen when pitting different cars against each other.Just out of curiosity, what happens Wally when you use data that lies at 2 standard deviations from the average, as opposed to 3? I'm wondering whether that would be more representative of the regular user while still getting the most out of the car?What standard deviation? I don't use that anywhere.Oh, I assumed you were using variance and standard deviation calculations for most things, eg. 68% for consistency = 1 Standard deviation, 95% = 3 SD. >68%<95% = 2 SD. Logged Bacchulum RestrictedRacing Hero Member Posts: 3402 Karma: 96 Re: Cars sorted by average lap times « Reply #14 on: July 25, 2015, 12:31:33 PM » There's a standard kind of deviant? I thought they were all weird. Logged 2+2=√16 Print Pages: 1 2 « previous next » Xtreme Gaming Network / Simulation Racing Leagues / Assetto Corsa (Moderator: Wally) / Cars sorted by average lap times
