[grat]

Thank you. It was just a curiosity of mine.

[Bacchulum]

Here are my times Wally.
I did 12m with default set in each car, then went back and did 12m with higher aero and gear adjustments.

1. Corvette - 86.9 secs
2. BMW - 87.5
3. Ferrari - 87.9

and

F138 @ Singapore
109.4 secs
 

[slideways]

I'll get some laps in over the weekend. Footy tonight so no racing for me...

[Wally]

Thanks chaps.

[marty]

Don't forget guys like Cherno and Guybrush have only done laps in the Corvette, so it can look misleading to see a lot of C7R near the top. And there is the fact that for a few guys, they were faster in the Ferrari.

All I want to avoid with ballast is the situation where no one drives a particular car because it's too slow, not necessarily to even them up to the nearest tenth, because everyone drives different cars differently, as the times show. At the moment, it's looking like the BMW might be a bit unattractive, and it might turn into a 2 make race.

Id think ballast should mostly just make it so that if one of the quicker guys for example choose the c7 then without ballast nobody will match them in anything else. This would make it basically a one car race, with a bit more testing we should see a regular pattern going but I will keep this at Brands at least til the end of this weekend. Then maybe pick a faster track like Barcelona moto or GP. Moto is probably a better indicator for which tracks are good on faster flowing circuits with the gp track last chicane often balancing the cars out a bit. It means a car also needs to be good in low speed corners and in the moto there aren't any real slow corners at this track

[Wally]

If one of the quicker guys chose a Corvette or a Ferrari, no one would catch them regardless. The Corvette is not automatically the best choice for everyone. If you're faster in the Ferrari, you'd choose that. It's just looking so far like not many would be compelled to choose the Beemer, so that needs a little incentive, such as not having ballast.

But we'll do some testing at Barcelona Moto too.

[marty]

Looking at the laptimes only 2 of the top 10 times are not in the corvette, of those both times are mine with the beamer just ahead of the 458. 

The top 20 times atm, maybe your looking at a different list. 



The corvette is the only car many can get under 1:26 the BMW has 3 times under this and the 458 only 2. The 458 still has the most laps in the server yet overall is the slowest of the 3.



I dont see how any of the quicker guys choosing a ferrari would made them the fastest when the data is not showing this car fastest by any stretch atm. Maybe I am reading it wrong and need to turn the screen upside down. 

[Guybrush Threepwood]

The corvette is the only car many can get under 1:26

Sounds like a challenge!

[Wally]

A lot of those top guys have only set times in the Corvette though, that's the thing.

[Bacchulum]

A lot of those top guys have only set times in the Corvette though, that's the thing.

That's why I did equal amounts in each car.

[Guybrush Threepwood]

To be honest, I just jumped on for a bit of a fun run as there were a few on the server.  I weren't really testing anything.

[Wally]

Crunching some more numbers in a different way (because I love thinking about this stuff): I looked at people who had driven more than one car, and averaged the differences in times between each car they drove (if they had done enough laps in each car). The numbers so far show this:

C7R vs M3: C7R is 1.1 secs faster (8 gaps compared)
C7R vs 458: C7R is 0.2 sec faster (6 gaps compared)
458 vs M3: M3 is 0.8 secs faster (10 gaps compared)

To me, that looks like the C7R needs a little more ballast than the 458, but not much more.

[marty]

I ran a few more laps in each, though far from ultimate laps in each car. Overall they are really much closer then I expected.

C7R 1:24.162
458 1:24.414
BMW 1:24.562

Still after quite a few were in the server nobody else is really finding pace in the 458 or M3 like many are finding in the c7.

Here are the current top 25 times.

[Wally]

Don't get fooled by the C7 times, as a lot of those drivers at the top of the list haven't driven anything else. Here's the list with only people who've driven more than one car:

 

1.	Marty	Corvette C7R	01:24.162
4.	Marty	458 GT2	01:24.414
7.	Marty	M3 GT2	01:24.563
9.	jk .VR.	Corvette C7R	01:25.178
12.	Mael	Corvette C7R	01:25.313
17.	gratulin	Corvette C7R	01:25.581
21.	jk .VR.	M3 GT2	01:26.003
22.	General Stoner	458 GT2	01:26.006
24.	Mael	M3 GT2	01:26.043
26.	Mr Wobbler	458 GT2	01:26.111
29.	XGN Wally Masterson	458 GT2	01:26.255
30.	gratulin	458 GT2	01:26.340
36.	Glenn Frost	Corvette C7R	01:26.674
38.	XGN Wally Masterson	Corvette C7R	01:26.825
39.	Bacchulum	Corvette C7R	01:26.957
43.	gratulin	M3 GT2	01:27.191
44.	Mr Wobbler	Corvette C7R	01:27.244
51.	Bacchulum	M3 GT2	01:27.561
53.	XGN Wally Masterson	M3 GT2	01:27.604
54.	Glenn Frost	458 GT2	01:27.622
57.	Glenn Frost	M3 GT2	01:27.846
58.	Bacchulum	458 GT2	01:27.995
59.	General Stoner	M3 GT2	01:28.001
62.	bbhrt	458 GT2	01:28.055
63.	Nicklas Brown	M3 GT2	01:28.075
64.	bbhrt	M3 GT2	01:28.258
69.	Nicklas Brown	458 GT2	01:28.744
71.	Zico	458 GT2	01:28.839
72.	Gro0kie	458 GT2	01:28.981
73.	Zico	M3 GT2	01:29.181
81.	Mr Wobbler	M3 GT2	01:30.139
87.	Gro0kie	Corvette C7R	01:32.680

[Matthew111]

maybe its the default setups, when i did my quick test a few weeks a go the cars were stock and yeah the c7 was way quicker