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S20R3: Thruxton Post-Race Chat
« on: January 09, 2018, 06:27:50 PM »
RACE 1 RESULTS
RACE 2 RESULTS
RACE 3 RESULTS
SEASON STANDINGS
SEASON STATS

Round Points
Matthew111   116
Kcender87   106
Godzilla   92
killagorilla   87
Freezer   84
Joe   84
Jeremy   79
Grat   78
Seanus   73
Phil.8   69
Shayne   66
Bacchulum   60
Phil   51
Wally   50
Mael   47
ab156   39
Simone   38
Rob   35
RussG   34
JamieP   29
Dave O   28
Gratulin   22

Congratulations to Matthew111 on pole and the race 1 win, and Kcender for race 2 and 3 wins, as well as again winning the overall round.

Penalties
Race 1
A tough one – Dave O hit the rear of Kcender when he was rejoining the track after an off. Kcender was rejoining relatively slowly and carefully, in the direction of the flow of the traffic (i.e. not across the track), and was in Dave’s sight for some time. I have to call that one carelessness on Dave’s part, and call that a penalty.

Race 2
Godzilla deviated sideways suddenly across the track into the side of Kcender and into the back of me – penalty.
Grat drove into the back of RussG and caused a bit of carnage – penalty.

Race 3
Seanus divebombed too fast into the side of Freezer costing him positions – penalty.

Season Podium
1. Kcender87, 234 pts
2. Phil.8, 213
3. Grat, 205

Despite Grat's and Phil.8's relatively poor results here, there is no change to the overall podium standings.

Contact Reports

Contacts by driver
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Grat
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   Lap 1: 14 kph
   Lap 1: 201 kph (+10 restrictor)
   Lap 1: 35 kph (+1 restrictor)
   Lap 2: 45 kph (+2 restrictor)
   Lap 2: 55 kph (+4 restrictor)
   Lap 12: 23 kph

Phil.8
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   Lap 1: 14 kph
   Lap 3: 50 kph (+3 restrictor)

Godzilla
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   Lap 1: 19 kph
   Lap 3: 25 kph
   Lap 4: 64 kph (+5 restrictor)
   Lap 4: 87 kph (+8 restrictor)
   Lap 6: 8 kph
   Lap 9: 1 kph

Kcender87
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   Lap 1: 36 kph (+1 restrictor)
   Lap 1: 79 kph (+7 restrictor)
   Lap 2: 51 kph (+3 restrictor)

Simone
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   Lap 1: 24 kph
   Lap 1: 25 kph
   Lap 1: 69 kph (+6 restrictor)

Gratulin
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   Lap 1: 31 kph (+1 restrictor)
   Lap 1: 15 kph
   Lap 10: 11 kph
   Lap 10: 4 kph
   Lap 12: 11 kph

Dave O
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   Lap 1: 67 kph (+5 restrictor)
   Lap 1: 68 kph (+5 restrictor)
   Lap 7: 51 kph (+3 restrictor)

Wally
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   Lap 1: 14 kph
   Lap 13: 192 kph (+10 restrictor)

Rob
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   Lap 2: 55 kph (+4 restrictor)

RussG
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   Lap 4: 98 kph (+9 restrictor)
   Lap 9: 94 kph (+9 restrictor)
   Lap 9: 107 kph (+10 restrictor)

ab156
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   Lap 4: 49 kph (+3 restrictor)
   Lap 9: 92 kph (+8 restrictor)

JamieP
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   Lap 4: 29 kph

Bacchulum
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   Lap 6: 18 kph
   Lap 9: 18 kph

Mael
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   Lap 7: 42 kph (+2 restrictor)
   Lap 7: 124 kph (+10 restrictor)

Seanus
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   Lap 7: 24 kph
   Lap 7: 117 kph (+10 restrictor)
   Lap 10: 6 kph

Phil
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   Lap 7: 34 kph (+1 restrictor)


Contacts by driver
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Kcender87
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   Lap 1: 34 kph (+1 restrictor)
   Lap 1: 58 kph (+4 restrictor)
   Lap 2: 1 kph

Godzilla
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   Lap 1: 43 kph (+2 restrictor)
   Lap 1: 35 kph (+1 restrictor)
   Lap 1: 71 kph (+6 restrictor)
   Lap 1: 54 kph (+4 restrictor)
   Lap 1: 147 kph (+10 restrictor)
   Lap 4: 57 kph (+4 restrictor)
   Lap 4: 23 kph

Wally
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   Lap 1: 43 kph (+2 restrictor)
   Lap 1: 131 kph (+10 restrictor)
   Lap 3: 42 kph (+2 restrictor)
   Lap 5: 14 kph
   Lap 5: 81 kph (+7 restrictor)
   Lap 5: 172 kph (+10 restrictor)

Phil.8
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   Lap 1: 6 kph
   Lap 1: 226 kph (+10 restrictor)
   Lap 1: 204 kph (+10 restrictor)
   Lap 8: 1 kph
   Lap 8: 33 kph (+1 restrictor)

Grat
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   Lap 1: 61 kph (+4 restrictor)
   Lap 1: 25 kph
   Lap 4: 75 kph (+6 restrictor)
   Lap 6: 26 kph
   Lap 6: 64 kph (+5 restrictor)
   Lap 6: 12 kph
   Lap 6: 24 kph
   Lap 12: 6 kph
   Lap 12: 20 kph

RussG
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   Lap 1: 117 kph (+10 restrictor)
   Lap 1: 58 kph (+4 restrictor)
   Lap 1: 180 kph (+10 restrictor)
   Lap 1: 27 kph
   Lap 1: 24 kph
   Lap 10: 24 kph

Bacchulum
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   Lap 1: 78 kph (+7 restrictor)
   Lap 1: 220 kph (+10 restrictor)
   Lap 3: 41 kph (+2 restrictor)
   Lap 5: 74 kph (+6 restrictor)
   Lap 7: 198 kph (+10 restrictor)
   Lap 11: 11 kph

Shayne
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   Lap 1: 68 kph (+5 restrictor)

Jeremy
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   Lap 1: 32 kph (+1 restrictor)
   Lap 5: 17 kph
   Lap 7: 19 kph
   Lap 7: 224 kph (+10 restrictor)
   Lap 9: 45 kph (+2 restrictor)
   Lap 14: 336 kph (+10 restrictor)

JamieP
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   Lap 2: 53 kph (+3 restrictor)
   Lap 2: 208 kph (+10 restrictor)
   Lap 5: 7 kph

Matthew111
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   Lap 3: 24 kph
   Lap 7: 26 kph
   Lap 7: 26 kph
   Lap 7: 41 kph (+2 restrictor)
   Lap 8: 25 kph
   Lap 9: 29 kph
   Lap 9: 21 kph

Dave O
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   Lap 3: 30 kph
   Lap 8: 26 kph
   Lap 8: 2 kph
   Lap 9: 40 kph (+2 restrictor)
   Lap 11: 15 kph

Mael
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   Lap 4: 32 kph (+1 restrictor)
   Lap 6: 59 kph (+4 restrictor)
   Lap 6: 17 kph
   Lap 6: 74 kph (+6 restrictor)
   Lap 8: 91 kph (+8 restrictor)
   Lap 9: 126 kph (+10 restrictor)

killagorilla
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   Lap 6: 32 kph (+1 restrictor)
   Lap 6: 93 kph (+9 restrictor)
   Lap 7: 43 kph (+2 restrictor)
   Lap 7: 42 kph (+2 restrictor)
   Lap 8: 70 kph (+6 restrictor)
   Lap 8: 27 kph
   Lap 9: 40 kph (+2 restrictor)
   Lap 14: 154 kph (+10 restrictor)

Rob
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   Lap 9: 22 kph
   Lap 12: 24 kph
   Lap 12: 48 kph (+3 restrictor)
   Lap 14: 156 kph (+10 restrictor)
   Lap 14: 146 kph (+10 restrictor)

Simone
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   Lap 11: 14 kph
« Last Edit: January 09, 2018, 11:36:38 PM by Wally »
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Re: S20R3: Thruxton Post-Race Chat
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2018, 11:36:50 PM »
Results are up.
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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2018, 11:48:22 PM »
Lesson learned, do not earn Wally's wrath. The bag of cement loaded in my BMW killed any chance of a good result  :'(   Overall had some good battles, had some great passes put on me (Grat & Jamie).

And thanks Seanus for waiting on me after our contact, an unfortunate incident which I blame on Wally for being so slow ahead of me  :)  But it is always good to see a driver redress if they cause an accident.

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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2018, 11:52:06 PM »
Lesson learned, do not earn Wally's wrath. The bag of cement loaded in my BMW killed any chance of a good result  :'(   
You're saying it wrong. It should be "Lesson learned, do not run into the back of anyone on the opening lap" :)
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« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2018, 11:56:06 PM »
Lesson learned, do not earn Wally's wrath. The bag of cement loaded in my BMW killed any chance of a good result  :'(   
You're saying it wrong. It should be "Lesson learned, do not run into the back of anyone on the opening lap" :)

No no no  ;D  the lesson is; DON'T GET CAUGHT!

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« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2018, 11:58:37 PM »
Race 1 was quiet, wasn't able to keep up with the leaders, but managed to build up a gap to the fella behind me on 4.
Race 2 was very different of course...lots of action. My apologies to Matthew. I wanted to sneak through the inside at the exit, but you were slowing down because of your line (and maybe my nudge as well) a bit more than I expected and I hit you at the rear as a result...sorry. That line really is very slow.
Strangely enough I got kicked out of the server before race 3 and didn't manage to get back in in time for the race...ended up in the pits with a time penalty. That was great.
The result was accordingly.
However, it was some great racing and I enjoyed it...thanks.
Btw, it was amazing to see the speed some guys were carrying through the chicane before start-finish...seems to explain the 1:18.xx times on the practice server before.

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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2018, 12:00:25 AM »
Pretty decent round for me. Qualified 6th and finished 4th in the first race. Managed to avoid the accident on lap 1 and had some place trading with Phil throughout.

Race 2 starting near the back again missed the accident and made a few passes to finish 8th.

Race 3 was going okay but got tapped in the rear going through the chicane and found myself facing oncoming traffic so coasted backwards off the track. Fortunately nobody else got caught up, but was no redress and I lost about 6 places. I made up some of those but was probably about 3 places down on where I could have finished.

I wasn't 100% sure at the time how I got hit, but looks like the car behind caught a bit of grass and couldn't slow up in time:

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« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2018, 12:11:19 AM »
Feel like I got squeezed out a bit there in race two for that hit, plenty of track space to the left and all...
Funny how so many keep saying that the 1:18.xxx times are because everyone must be cutting the chicane, just check the lap speed graph, most guys are WAY faster through there then my lap. So maybe it’s the chicane, or maybe it’s the 244 laps of practice, but sure, let’s go with the chicane thing.. lol

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« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2018, 12:12:59 AM »
Hi,

first: apologies to RussG (race 2), Phil (race 1), and I think Simone (race 1). I am not the safest driver, but I hope you believe me when I say tonight it was not normal for me, especially at the start and, in RussG's case, I had tried to race with PP off and I could nto see his brake light... so since I did not expect him to slow down much there... anyway: sorry.

I have done the DDU and played around a lot. Alone, I can hold 90fps very steady in any conditions. As soon as I load a replay, it is much harder. When with one or two cars around and far from the pits, it almost holds it at 90. But as soon as I am in heavy traffic or close to the pits, it never gets close to 90, with some deep drops to 60 or so. I have tried to take off PP (which was already at minimum and off, but I need it to see brake lights) world details down to High, no reflections at all, and something more. It gets a tiny tiny bit better. But really nothing that can make me feel confortable racing with everybody else around.

Any suggestions from you computer super-savvy is super uber welcome :)

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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2018, 12:16:45 AM »
My race 1 was pretty boring. I ended up just circulating between Freezer and Shayne, but with Godzilla catching up. He caught up on lap at the chicane, and pressured me enough that I oversteered exiting the chicane and put my car into the barrier, which cost me 4 places late in the piece  :(

In race 2, I was carrying a bit of damage from my hit into the barrier in race 1. It didn't get off to a great start when Godzilla hit my car in the opening corners, again bouncing me off the barrier and putting me last. From there I clawed a few spots back with some good close racing, until I oversteered at the chicane again and spun in front of Bacchulum and hit the wall again. I think I was losing car balance in the left then right of the chicane, setting up a gentle tank slapper that I couldn't quite hold.
Last again :(
I caught up with the Bacchulum/Dave O/Jeremy pack which was some good fun racing. Finished 18th with still more damage to the car.

Race 3 was full of action. Lots of close racing with different guys, a bit of panel rubbing and biff 'n barge - all good fun. No spins or incidents this time, but I was a bit slow because of earlier damage.
It was a bit disappointing to be passed in the chicane like this though, by a car going well outside the white lines:

But like I said, it's a bit difficult to make sure everyone's on the same page rule-wise when some aren't on Discord, or read the forums that much.
« Last Edit: January 10, 2018, 12:20:21 AM by Wally »
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« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2018, 12:17:53 AM »
Lesson learned, do not earn Wally's wrath. The bag of cement loaded in my BMW killed any chance of a good result  :'(   
You're saying it wrong. It should be "Lesson learned, do not run into the back of anyone on the opening lap" :)

No no no  ;D  the lesson is; DON'T GET CAUGHT!
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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2018, 12:21:37 AM »
Hi,

first: apologies to RussG (race 2), Phil (race 1), and I think Simone (race 1). I am not the safest driver, but I hope you believe me when I say tonight it was not normal for me, especially at the start and, in RussG's case, I had tried to race with PP off and I could nto see his brake light... so since I did not expect him to slow down much there... anyway: sorry.

I have done the DDU and played around a lot. Alone, I can hold 90fps very steady in any conditions. As soon as I load a replay, it is much harder. When with one or two cars around and far from the pits, it almost holds it at 90. But as soon as I am in heavy traffic or close to the pits, it never gets close to 90, with some deep drops to 60 or so. I have tried to take off PP (which was already at minimum and off, but I need it to see brake lights) world details down to High, no reflections at all, and something more. It gets a tiny tiny bit better. But really nothing that can make me feel confortable racing with everybody else around.

Any suggestions from you computer super-savvy is super uber welcome :)

Took a good shot at wiping me out in the fast right, though I think you came off second best there, had comfortably two thirds of the car on your inside.

On a PC note, the fans/heatsonks aren’t just clogged with dust causing he card to throttle are they? Pixel density setting hasn’t changed?

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« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2018, 12:42:12 AM »
Hi,

first: apologies to RussG (race 2), Phil (race 1), and I think Simone (race 1). I am not the safest driver, but I hope you believe me when I say tonight it was not normal for me, especially at the start and, in RussG's case, I had tried to race with PP off and I could nto see his brake light... so since I did not expect him to slow down much there... anyway: sorry.

I have done the DDU and played around a lot. Alone, I can hold 90fps very steady in any conditions. As soon as I load a replay, it is much harder. When with one or two cars around and far from the pits, it almost holds it at 90. But as soon as I am in heavy traffic or close to the pits, it never gets close to 90, with some deep drops to 60 or so. I have tried to take off PP (which was already at minimum and off, but I need it to see brake lights) world details down to High, no reflections at all, and something more. It gets a tiny tiny bit better. But really nothing that can make me feel confortable racing with everybody else around.

Any suggestions from you computer super-savvy is super uber welcome :)

Took a good shot at wiping me out in the fast right, though I think you came off second best there, had comfortably two thirds of the car on your inside.

On a PC note, the fans/heatsonks aren’t just clogged with dust causing he card to throttle are they? Pixel density setting hasn’t changed?
I remember that. I actually thought you were way later, but evidently I was getting there very slowly as I was battling with somebody else before. Sorry about that, though, as you said, it went bad for me.

For the PC: I have just opened the case and had a good look inside: it seems really quite clean. Just a tiny patina of dust on some of the surfaces.

Pixel density is set on openVR. I have it at 1.4, which still looks decent, but seems not too heavy on the GPU. But in fact it is all ok with 1 car or 2 around. It is heavy traffic or the pits which seems to be a problem.

Now, quite frankly, I know I could really start to cut: pixels at 1.1, world detail to Medium, etc. But I am already on a pretty low quality, and I do not feel like racing with less than that. Since this is basically my only hobby right now, I can spend 1K on a 1080ti if you guys tell me it would make a huge difference and could perhaps handle the next oculus rift or vive coming, say 2019 (the thing I have currently seems to be a decent but much crappier imitation to me ;)). Hell, we did not make me a christmas or birthday present after all this year ;)

But otherwise, if you guys say it would nto make much of a difference or I would need a new one in 1 year anyway, then it seems quite a bit of money to me.

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« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2018, 12:48:08 AM »
Jump from a 980 to 1080ti is quiet large but a 1080ti is fairly old now and the replacement based on Volta should be coming within the next 2 months ish so hard to recommend a 1080ti now. What’s the rest of the PC spec? The 980 shouldn’t be having any major issues. Maybe download something like 3D Mark and see how your scores compare to similar systems

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« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2018, 01:15:21 AM »
Thank you, Godzilla. The rest should be: i7 4790K with some NZXT Kraken Liquid cooler, an MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition motherboard, and a 650W Power supply (I guess this is all that matters... as you can see, I am pretty ignorant)

Are you saying I should wait to buy a Volta card, or wait to buy a 1080ti if the price goes down?