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Title: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Wally on April 23, 2019, 11:19:20 PM
10 lap sprints.

Track: https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/watkins-glen-international.20204 (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/watkins-glen-international.20204)

Pay attention to the installation instructions on RD:

*********IMPORTANT*********
 This track uses a custom shader by @Stereo (https://www.racedepartment.com/members/9613/). Because of this the the archive folder structure is different than previous versions. If you use Content Manager then you can just install it like any other mod. If you do not use Content manager make sure you copy the 3 folders shown here to the main assettocorsa folder.

 (https://www.racedepartment.com/attachments/upload_2018-10-3_13-6-36-png.272488/)

Car pack:

The GPL '67 mod can be downloaded HERE (http://www.mediafire.com/file/sz9937gkwgkenhg/20190416+AC+1967+Grand+Prix+Legends+Mod+v2.20.rar). Link updated for 2.20.
The GPL mod has special installation notes for the Lotus 49 and Ferrari 312, which is to copy the original AC .kn5 file for these 2 cars into the GPL folder:

Quote
Installation Notes: Unpack to:  ...\SteamLibrary\SteamApps\common\assettocorsa\content\cars 
 
NOTE ON INSTALLATION OF THE LOTUS 49: 
You need the original kunos Lotus 49 install file:
1. Extract folders content and texture to your AC install: ...\SteamLibrary\SteamApps\common\assettocorsa\
2. Goto …\SteamLibrary\SteamApps\common\assettocorsa\content\cars\lotus_49
3. In this folder: Copy the lotus_49.kn5 file
4. Within \cars folder, goto \ gpl67_lotus_49 5. Paste lotus_49.kn5 here!   

NOTE ON INSTALLATION OF THE Ferrari 312: You need the Ferrari DLC pack from steam:  https://store.steampowered.com/app/675590/Assetto_Corsa__Ferrari_70th_Anniversary_Pack (https://store.steampowered.com/app/675590/Assetto_Corsa__Ferrari_70th_Anniversary_Pack) / 
 
Ferrari 312 install file:
1. Extract folders content and texture to your AC install: ...\SteamLibrary\SteamApps\common\assettocorsa\
2. Goto:  ..\SteamLibrary\SteamApps\common\assettocorsa\content\cars\ ks_ferrari_312_67
3. In this folder: Copy the ferrari_312_67.kn5 file
4. Within \cars folder, goto \ gpl67_ferrari_312
5. Paste ferrari_312_67.kn5 here!

 
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Bird on April 24, 2019, 08:32:12 AM
Edit:
here's the whole thing, files to copy included:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cajt5gq53legv8s/ac_gpl67.zip?dl=0

unpack to [AC]/content/cars


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Funny...they could have just packed the whole thing up so there's no need for special instructions.  Two measly files to copy.   And then instead of stating what to copy and where, they write 4-5 steps.
These guys aren't into IT, are they? :)

i.e. the copy instructions "translated" to easy human readable format:

all copy instructions refer to the folder
Code: [Select]
[SteamLibrary]\SteamApps\common\assettocorsa\content\cars\
Within the above library here, copy :
Code: [Select]
lotus_49\lotus_49.kn5   =>  gpl67_lotus_49\lotus_49.kn5
and
Code: [Select]
ks_ferrari_312_67\ferrari_312_67.kn5  =>  gpl67_ferrari_312\ferrari_312_67.kn5
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Wally on April 24, 2019, 08:40:19 AM
I imagine they're not allowed to package up original AC content into their mod, especially as the Ferrari is DLC.
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Bird on April 24, 2019, 08:44:42 AM
I imagine they're not allowed to package up original AC content into their mod, especially as the Ferrari is DLC.

Oh...right, the fezza is a dlc.  Altho it does not explain the other.
Well, we all have the dlc so the link is up above.   I will remove it once we have the season underway.
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: rooshooter on April 24, 2019, 03:06:21 PM
All works for me Wally :).
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Bacchulum on April 25, 2019, 12:35:08 PM
Just finished spamming the lap charts.
A base setup for all cars is on sTracker.
For anyone who doesn't have pTracker, request and I'll post here. ;)
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: rooshooter on April 25, 2019, 12:52:07 PM
Just finished spamming the lap charts.
A base setup for all cars is on sTracker.
For anyone who doesn't have pTracker, request and I'll post here. ;)
Thanks Bacchulum, Lotus 49 setup was heaps better than what I was using :) :) :). I thought sharing setups for Tuesday racing, was something that never happened :o :o :o.
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Bacchulum on April 25, 2019, 01:26:13 PM
I never used to. :-X
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: killagorilla on April 25, 2019, 02:54:50 PM
Just had a look at the server lap times...well, seems like AB156 has got everything under control.
I have to try the Eagle. It looks like it's pretty competitive. Didn't even know there ever was an Eagle.
Does anyone know the size of the steering wheel in these guys?
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Phil.8 on April 25, 2019, 03:35:07 PM
I don't mind sharing mine if people want, just that a lot of the time people have said they don't suit them and its only me who can drive them so I sorta stopped posting them as much
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Dave O on April 25, 2019, 06:13:22 PM
Would like to try your base set for the Ferrari Dave, and I usually get on fairly with your sets Phil.  ;) thx guys Dave O.
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Bacchulum on April 25, 2019, 06:29:40 PM
One Fezza set. 8)
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: rob on April 25, 2019, 06:56:43 PM
Thanks Dave and Phil, all (setup) donations greatly appreciated.

I might not end up using the setups of others but I usually find something in each one that I can use. Be it gear ratios, ride height, camber etc. I am a bit of a numpty when it comes to setups.
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Phil.8 on April 25, 2019, 07:17:24 PM
Soon as I decide a car and make a setup I will share :)
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Seanus on April 26, 2019, 11:08:24 AM
 >:( :o >:( Wheelbase is off on the Eagle. Wheelbase & track are off on the Brabham.  >:( :o >:(
(http://xgn.com.au/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2559.0;attach=1735)
 
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Wally on April 26, 2019, 12:40:01 PM
>:( :o >:( Wheelbase is off on the Eagle. Wheelbase & track are off on the Brabham.  >:( :o >:(
Feel free to fix as much as you have the time and/or inclination.
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Dave O on April 26, 2019, 01:51:44 PM
One Fezza set. 8)

Thx again Dave  ;)
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Seanus on April 26, 2019, 01:58:50 PM

...have the time and/or inclination....
;) ;) ;) These are my inclination.  :D :D :D
(http://xgn.com.au/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2559.0;attach=1737)
 
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: rooshooter on April 26, 2019, 04:14:06 PM
I have just tested collision box of Brabham with me in a Lotus, in VR, and in a race environment I do not think it would make much difference,tyres did not appear to overlap and collision/rubbing seemed normal. I say leave as is and proceed and see if there are any complaints.
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Wally on April 26, 2019, 05:48:01 PM
Looking at my lap times so far...  I'll wave as you lap me, OK?
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: rooshooter on April 26, 2019, 06:59:51 PM
Looking at my lap times so far...  I'll wave as you lap me, OK?
Do not sweat it Wally, just like Formula Ford you will get there ;). I too am currently way off the pace, bit the track is new to me and I am sure I will get there :).
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: killagorilla on April 26, 2019, 09:28:06 PM
Looking at my lap times so far...  I'll wave as you lap me, OK?
My lap time in the Ferrari not not a result of these 3 laps online, but I guess 20...25 on top of that offline...just thought you may haven't done so many, which could explain differences in lap times :-)
That's the only car I spent some time in worth mentioning. Only done 2 or 3 in the Eagle and I find this thing very fast, but for me it needs some set up work to get oversteering under control. I tried quite a bit on the Ferrari, but ended up with a setup pretty close to default.
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on April 27, 2019, 10:59:45 AM
Does the in-built penalty for using sequential gears instead of shifter apply? When I was racing it was worth around 0.5 to 1 second a lap depending on the car.
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Wally on April 27, 2019, 11:44:46 AM
Does the in-built penalty for using sequential gears instead of shifter apply? When I was racing it was worth around 0.5 to 1 second a lap depending on the car.
I think that's still a thing. I don't think it's that severe though. With a shifter, you seem to be able to get through the gears quicker, i.e. you can usually beat somone using paddles off the line with an H shifter.
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Seanus on April 27, 2019, 01:41:00 PM
240ms for sequential.
And 360ms for auto, which is just plain wrong.
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on April 27, 2019, 02:08:50 PM
Does anyone know where I can get these tracks and mods (thanks for the cars link Bird) anywhere OTHER than RaceDepartment?

Everything I D/L from there downloads at 20 kb/s or less, yet from everywhere else it's about 6Mbps.
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: rob on April 27, 2019, 03:13:27 PM
Hi GB, welcome back.

Don't give up on RD just yet, I find that WHEN I d/l sometimes makes a big diff in d/l speed with RD. Try a different time of day and see if that helps.
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Bacchulum on April 27, 2019, 03:34:42 PM
For me at least, RD sux in the AM but is much better 1500+ ;)
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Wally on April 27, 2019, 05:41:26 PM
Does anyone know where I can get these tracks and mods (thanks for the cars link Bird) anywhere OTHER than RaceDepartment?

Everything I D/L from there downloads at 20 kb/s or less, yet from everywhere else it's about 6Mbps.
RD speeds vary a lot at different times of the day.
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: rooshooter on April 30, 2019, 08:06:40 AM
I really wanted to drive the car that the hero in my teen years drove , which was Jim Clark, the Lotus 49, but it is just too hard for me too control :'(.

I have now opted for the Eagle.

How will the cars be allocated Wally? I think there may be a shortage of Ferrari_312 s.
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Joe on April 30, 2019, 08:11:01 AM
Does the in-built penalty for using sequential gears instead of shifter apply? When I was racing it was worth around 0.5 to 1 second a lap depending on the car.

That certainly is the case, but for those of us not using a h-shifter they're not getting the full simulation experience  ;) *cough* Russ *cough*
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Mael on April 30, 2019, 09:50:21 AM
I really wanted to drive the car that the hero in my teen years drove , which was Jim Clark, the Lotus 49, but it is just too hard for me too control :'(.

I have now opted for the Eagle.

How will the cars be allocated Wally? I think there may be a shortage of Ferrari_312 s.

Maybe we should ban the quicker drivers from using the quicker cars? Only the Mclaren, Honda or Cooper for aliens  ;D
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Wally on April 30, 2019, 10:34:32 AM
I really wanted to drive the car that the hero in my teen years drove , which was Jim Clark, the Lotus 49, but it is just too hard for me too control :'( .

I have now opted for the Eagle.

How will the cars be allocated Wally? I think there may be a shortage of Ferrari_312 s.
Everyone will get to nominate the car they want, and I will assign everyone their chosen car on the grid.
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Wally on April 30, 2019, 10:36:32 AM
I really wanted to drive the car that the hero in my teen years drove , which was Jim Clark, the Lotus 49, but it is just too hard for me too control :'( .

I have now opted for the Eagle.

How will the cars be allocated Wally? I think there may be a shortage of Ferrari_312 s.

Maybe we should ban the quicker drivers from using the quicker cars? Only the Mclaren, Honda or Cooper for aliens  ;D
What we could do, like we've done on a Thursday, is to say that whoever wins a round can't drive that car again for the rest of the season. That way the leaders will slowly fall down into slower cars. It might get annoying for the front runners to be in a different car each week though. What do you reckon?
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Seanus on April 30, 2019, 10:42:01 AM
240ms for sequential.
And 360ms for auto, which is just plain wrong.

This explains the bullshit I heard where people said gated shifting was quicker. That delay is designed for sequential only cars.
For all my mods I have now set that delay to 43ms, a nominal and very small delay as even Superman can't shift instantly.
n.b. If the car supports a gated shifter then the delay should be set very low. FFS more than half the peeps don't have a gated shifter so why should they be at a disadvantage. (same for the delay when using auto)
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Seanus on April 30, 2019, 10:45:04 AM
Maybe we should ban the quicker drivers from using the quicker cars? Only the Mclaren, Honda or Cooper for aliens  ;D
What we could do, like we've done on a Thursday, is to say that whoever wins a round can't drive that car again for the rest of the season. That way the leaders will slowly fall down into slower cars. It might get annoying for the front runners to be in a different car each week though. What do you reckon?

+1  ;) :) ;)

As I don't understand the restrictions on car choice anyway.
IRL I can't think of any cases where this is a rule,  in the halcyon days drivers would change cars in the middle of the race!
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: rooshooter on April 30, 2019, 11:40:17 AM
Maybe we should ban the quicker drivers from using the quicker cars? Only the Mclaren, Honda or Cooper for aliens  ;D
What we could do, like we've done on a Thursday, is to say that whoever wins a round can't drive that car again for the rest of the season. That way the leaders will slowly fall down into slower cars. It might get annoying for the front runners to be in a different car each week though. What do you reckon?

+1  ;) :) ;)

As I don't understand the restrictions on car choice anyway.
IRL I can't think of any cases where this is a rule,  in the halcyon days drivers would change cars in the middle of the race!
+another one ;D.
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Bird on April 30, 2019, 12:28:26 PM
+3, winners change cars.  Should be fun :D
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: killagorilla on April 30, 2019, 01:27:29 PM
Wally, the Ferrari is the only car I worked out a setup for so I'd go for that one.
Not sure what to think of your idea about winners changing to slower cars...I highly doubt I will be affected by that.
I'd prefer interferences to be kept to a minimum...maybe a bit of ballast or restrictor for the guy(s) in the lead, but it seems like I'm in the minority...whatever...  :)
kcender's, Phil's or Guybrush's opinion is more important imo.
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on April 30, 2019, 02:23:43 PM
Wally, the Ferrari is the only car I worked out a setup for so I'd go for that one.
Not sure what to think of your idea about winners changing to slower cars...I highly doubt I will be affected by that.
I'd prefer interferences to be kept to a minimum...maybe a bit of ballast or restrictor for the guy(s) in the lead, but it seems like I'm in the minority...whatever...  :)
kcender's, Phil's or Guybrush's opinion is more important imo.

I definitely don't associate myself with the faster guys so it depends what the regular race winners say, but my immediate thoughts would be that you'd be better off coming second than first.  For me, it only singles out the winner, not the "faster drivers", that might even itself out over the course of the season.  But I'm still trying to figure out the apps I need let alone the driving part!
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on April 30, 2019, 02:29:50 PM
Does the in-built penalty for using sequential gears instead of shifter apply? When I was racing it was worth around 0.5 to 1 second a lap depending on the car.

That certainly is the case, but for those of us not using a h-shifter they're not getting the full simulation experience  ;) *cough* Russ *cough*

I got a fanatec wheel and pedals but can't bring myself to pay $300+ for a shifter.  So paddles it is at the moment.  Thinking of getting one of those 3d printed shifters from Spain.
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Joe on April 30, 2019, 02:40:36 PM
I definitely don't associate myself with the faster guys

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Give it a few laps...
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Joe on April 30, 2019, 02:41:44 PM
I haven't even had a chance to even download the mod yet. I'll get it tonight but any suggestions. Is any one easier than the others and who has a good setup ?  :)
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Seanus on April 30, 2019, 03:27:08 PM
The rule need not be strict, so if you win in your favourite car and really want to keep racing that car then good on you. However if you then win a second time, others may wonder if it is you or the car. Again keep driving the same car and maybe even win when everyone else is also driving that car, suggesting it is your skill and not the car.
Or just go by the spirit of the rule and stop trying to deconstruct every bloody nuance as if we were all rational actors using game theory.  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: killagorilla on April 30, 2019, 03:28:04 PM
Wally, the Ferrari is the only car I worked out a setup for so I'd go for that one.
Not sure what to think of your idea about winners changing to slower cars...I highly doubt I will be affected by that.
I'd prefer interferences to be kept to a minimum...maybe a bit of ballast or restrictor for the guy(s) in the lead, but it seems like I'm in the minority...whatever...  :)
kcender's, Phil's or Guybrush's opinion is more important imo.

I definitely don't associate myself with the faster guys so it depends what the regular race winners say, but my immediate thoughts would be that you'd be better off coming second than first.  For me, it only singles out the winner, not the "faster drivers", that might even itself out over the course of the season.  But I'm still trying to figure out the apps I need let alone the driving part!
But it seems to me you should  ;)
I thought the fastest guys want to win races and the series as well. If you want to win the series you need to finish races at the top end. I'd give ballast to the guys in the lead of the series (maybe top 3 or 5...10 no idea), not the fastest as per lap times. Of course the fastest guy could play games and only come where he has to in order to stay within reach of the overall lead and try to avoid penalty weight/restrictor, but I really doubt that would be fun and it can backfire in case something goes wrong in the very last race. I would expect a fast guy to be still wanting to win races and just see it as a challenge to defend his position with a bit more weight than the guy behind him in the series...and if he's not successful the guy behind will be in the same predicament carrying more weight. In the end it should get the top 5 to stay closer to the mid field.
The tricky thing I can't judge is how a really fast guy would see a car change Wally suggested. That's because I most likely need a lot more time and struggle more with setting up a car (lack of skills & technical knowledge) and that results in me being more affected by this. A really fast guy may prefer that over getting some restrictor just because he will be more efficient with setting up a car and getting fast with it. Kcender, Phil and you will beat my time not just in the car you've picked, but in a number of other cars
as well. That's what I think anyway.
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: rooshooter on April 30, 2019, 03:36:55 PM
The rule need not be strict, so if you win in your favourite car and really want to keep racing that car then good on you. However if you then win a second time, others may wonder if it is you or the car. Again keep driving the same car and maybe even win when everyone else is also driving that car, suggesting it is your skill and not the car.


It has always been my opinion that the true test of a driver is to win in a slower car, I think Seanus is on the right track :).
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Wally on April 30, 2019, 04:48:00 PM
The reason to stay in the same car is partly a selfish one - it's far less work for me to find out what people want to drive every week and set the grid accordingly.

Although.....

We could use the car dealer just to automate the process of people choosing a car each week (no money involved - all cars would be free). The car dealer can automatically generate the entry list for me from peoples' car selection.

That sounds good to me. That would mean you can drive the same car all season if you want, or you can swap cars as much as you like. No restrictions on the round winners or anything like that.
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Bird on April 30, 2019, 05:10:07 PM
The reason to stay in the same car is partly a selfish one - it's far less work for me to find out what people want to drive every week and set the grid accordingly.

Although.....

We could use the car dealer just to automate the process of people choosing a car each week (no money involved - all cars would be free). The car dealer can automatically generate the entry list for me from peoples' car selection.

That sounds good to me. That would mean you can drive the same car all season if you want, or you can swap cars as much as you like. No restrictions on the round winners or anything like that.


It could work, but could you make the default selection to be the previous round's car, instead of some default car?
Although this isn't essential, it's still a good idea without. :)
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Wally on April 30, 2019, 05:12:51 PM
The reason to stay in the same car is partly a selfish one - it's far less work for me to find out what people want to drive every week and set the grid accordingly.

Although.....

We could use the car dealer just to automate the process of people choosing a car each week (no money involved - all cars would be free). The car dealer can automatically generate the entry list for me from peoples' car selection.

That sounds good to me. That would mean you can drive the same car all season if you want, or you can swap cars as much as you like. No restrictions on the round winners or anything like that.


It could work, but could you make the default selection to be the previous round's car, instead of some default car?
Although this isn't essential, it's still a good idea without. :)
Yeah, your car wouldn't change unless you chose to.
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Seanus on April 30, 2019, 05:21:22 PM
So we don't need a rule for winning in one car only. Just a recommendation that all the better drivers, they know who they are, are encouraged to step out of their winning cars and also as the season goes on suggest which cars they have found to have better lap times so the slower drivers, they also know who we they are, can gain from the better drivers' experience.
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Wally on April 30, 2019, 06:07:43 PM
Server's up. There are 5 of each car available. You might have to jump in and out of some different cars if there aren't enough of one model to go around.
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Bacchulum on April 30, 2019, 06:17:24 PM
I haven't even had a chance to even download the mod yet. I'll get it tonight but any suggestions. Is any one easier than the others and who has a good setup ?  :)
I've put a base setup for each car on the server. ;)
Not much, just 10-13 laps to get spring frequencies, damper ratios, gears, camber and roll centre.
Basically what I use as a starting point, then I work with the 'feel' bit.

The slow cars are easy to drive ;D but the easiest 'quick' car, for me, is the Lotus.
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: rooshooter on April 30, 2019, 06:29:26 PM
Server's up. There are 5 of each car available. You might have to jump in and out of some different cars if there aren't enough of one model to go around.

I am getting a checksum error on race server , practice is ok .
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Freezer on April 30, 2019, 06:34:12 PM
Also getting checksum on race server.
On practice server I was getting in with Ferrari and Lotus 49 (patched cars) but checksum on the rest!!

(I've reinstalled 2.0 ver of mod and also the track.)
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: rooshooter on April 30, 2019, 06:38:24 PM
Also getting checksum on race server.
On practice server I was getting in with Ferrari and Lotus 49 (patched cars) but checksum on the rest!!

(I've reinstalled 2.0 ver of mod and also the track.)
I was getting the same , but after download of Birds file and install with CM I could select all cars. I also deleted all existing GPL 67 cars first.
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Bird on April 30, 2019, 06:40:39 PM
same, checksum failed - but only on the live server
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Wally on April 30, 2019, 07:00:33 PM
Sorry, my mistake. I've restarted the server.
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: rooshooter on April 30, 2019, 07:05:26 PM
Sorry, my mistake. I've restarted the server.
I am still getting checksum but you have allocated 40 cars, is this correct?
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Freezer on April 30, 2019, 07:08:38 PM
Just installed Bird's packaged set of cars and still got checksum!
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Wally on April 30, 2019, 07:10:21 PM
Fixed now - it was the track, which had had an update since we last raced here.
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: rooshooter on April 30, 2019, 07:13:44 PM
Fixed now - it was the track, which had had an update since we last raced here.
All good now thanks Wally :).
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: ab156 on April 30, 2019, 10:14:57 PM
Great nights racing, if there is a vote, I say we pick our own car for the season.  There seemed to be a decent variation of cars and different tracks may offer up different strengths.  TBH, the main issue is having to do multiple setups :)
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Bird on April 30, 2019, 10:20:31 PM
Good fun night!

I must say I haven't felt that much difference between each car, but the Brabham's powertrain was more sensitive, I had red engine blinks regularly - this did not happen in the fezza nor the lotus.
I'll still have to try a couple, though.

The season will be interesting, these cars aren't easy to keep going straight...
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Joe on May 01, 2019, 07:58:36 AM
Didn't finish any of the races but cars seem fun. Probably would have helped practicing a little before the night. I do love the escorts but think these would be a nice change.
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on May 01, 2019, 09:15:32 AM
Good night of racing guys. Had a lot of fun.
Well done to KCender for the wins.
I'd loved to have stuck around for the third race and tried another car but was getting a bit late.  I learnt my lesson in the second race not to make too many setup adjustments to a car you haven't driven before!  Was good fun trying to tame the beast though.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Bacchulum on May 01, 2019, 10:28:32 AM
Race 1
Got hit, damaged suspension, hit wall, dead engine, 5 minute repair.
Race 2
A couple of personal errors, otherwise a good race.
Race 3
Got hit, damaged suspension, hit wall, dead engine, 5 minute repair.
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: rooshooter on May 01, 2019, 01:15:38 PM
It was worth the wait, being in the middle of a 20 car grid in these icons of F1 was an unreal experience ;D ;D ;D 8) 8) 8). I was lucky to get 2 races in without incident and was very happy with where I finished. I watched the replay of race 2 and I have to give a big thumbs up to Rob who drove a great race while under pressure and only faltered very near the finish. I enjoyed sitting in with kcender and watch him come back from an incident and still win :o. For me a very enjoyable night :).
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: Freezer on May 01, 2019, 02:00:00 PM
Not a lot of practice for me and found the cars not quite in my comfort zone!!  However as the night went on
I did start to get a feel for it.
Got caught up in tangles in races 1 & 2, but race 3 saw me slip through and head up towards the pointy end however
a wheel on the grass late in the race saw me spin and (apologies) get collect by the next few cars coming through.

As for damage, I did get some early hits that didn't obviously effect the car however in both race 2 & 3 on around lap 8 I started to get
smoke from the rear and a lap later engine gone!  Was that my driving or accumulated damage?
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: bradc on May 01, 2019, 10:00:49 PM
I really enjoyed the racing last night. I tried the Lotus and found it quite loose to drive from the apex onwards which was right up my alley.  In race 1 I managed to go from 14th to 7th in a lap and then proceeded to run out of talent and go head first into the wall at the final corner about 5 laps later as the faster guys regrouped and marched back up to the front....Race two wasn't much better, but I had some good laps dueling with Mael until I caught a tow off his Honda just as I entered the braking area at the end of the back straight and went grass cutting at mak2!

Whilst I didn't manage to finish a single race without destroying the car, it concentration killing fun  :o! Knowing how brutal and fragile these cars are made me take a totally different (possibly a little more cautious) approach to my driving and I liked it....In race 3 I had a little go in the Brabham but I couldn't come to terms with it's lack of speed and handling compared to the Lotus. More testing is required I'm sure but at the moment I'm really loving the Lotus
Title: Re: Fun run: GPL 67 at Watkins Glen (Boot Classic)
Post by: killagorilla on May 02, 2019, 12:21:35 AM
It was some good racing. Sorry about the mess up at the start of race two and that bit of a nudge in race 3, Wally.
I've just done a few laps in some other cars at Watkins Glen and figured the only other option besides the Ferrari would be the Lotus 49 for me. It took me 8 laps with just an average setup to get within 0.8s of my best in the Ferrari (done about 100 laps in this one). Strangely enough the Lotus and the Eagle were getting me a higher top speed at the end of the long straight.
Btw the cable of my headset got eaten by my vacuum cleaner and damaged so I'm using a spare one with a broken mic...that's why I'm so quiet.
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