General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Bird on June 23, 2016, 01:52:39 PM
Title: My track day vids
Post by: Bird on June 23, 2016, 01:52:39 PM
In case anyone interested...
Here's my very first lap, ever :)
https://youtu.be/QRFNT01E4R4
And the fastest lap:
https://youtu.be/laZ577_1LYA
Sadly the throttle & rpm data are somewhat off.
I did a bit of write-up and discussion ongoing on the ARSE forums (http://arseforums.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=20545&p=424747#p424747), if anyone is interested.
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Bruce on June 23, 2016, 02:16:07 PM
nice driving Istvan, what app were you using and what track was that?
Just read your writeup, great report.
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Bird on June 23, 2016, 02:28:36 PM
Thanks :) It's Harry's Laptimer and at Wakefield Park.
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Wally on June 23, 2016, 06:15:55 PM
Damp and slippy, huh? Looks you had fun. 48 laps! That's a great video overlay too. Did you buy your own camera, and dies it include that overlay? Or dies the track provide it?
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Bird on June 23, 2016, 07:46:09 PM
Damp and slippy, huh? Looks you had fun. 48 laps! That's a great video overlay too. Did you buy your own camera, and dies it include that overlay? Or dies the track provide it?
It's an app that connects also to an obd2 sensor via bluetooth and records everything on the phone. It was more than damp early on. Drizzle and icy winds at 7 degrees...but it was highly educational ;)
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on June 23, 2016, 09:11:21 PM
Awesome vids Bird. Keep 'em coming.
Were there any other GT86ers there? What were the times in comparison? How did it feel compared to AC?
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Wally on June 23, 2016, 09:38:35 PM
Damp and slippy, huh? Looks you had fun. 48 laps! That's a great video overlay too. Did you buy your own camera, and dies it include that overlay? Or dies the track provide it?
It's an app that connects also to an obd2 sensor via bluetooth and records everything on the phone. It was more than damp early on. Drizzle and icy winds at 7 degrees...but it was highly educational ;)
What's on obd2 sensor? This thing: https://www.amazon.com/BAFX-Products-34t5-Bluetooth-Android/dp/B005NLQAHS What does that record - speed and what else? What camera did you use?
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Bird on June 24, 2016, 08:24:53 AM
Were there any other GT86ers there? What were the times in comparison? How did it feel compared to AC?
No other GTs on the track, but I've met Chris Reeves, who is racing 86's and won in the 86, too. Owns five of them, hehe. He was one of the instructors on the day - and got plenty of good advice on how and what to do, with the car. Very nice chap!
Other lap times (http://i.imgur.com/CniIw6Q.jpg)
How did it feel compared? Well, as I wrote on the ARSE forum, it's much harder to drive to the limit, much harder to keep aware of everything, it feels fast, and unbelievably grippy in the corners. But at the same time, it's easier to feel what's happening.
I'd say it's well represented in AC, but it's still so different. Honestly, it's chalk & cheese.
If any of you guys are in NSW, the TrackSchool guys - the organisers - have track days with hire cars of all sorts; do yourself a favour and try it.
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Bird on June 24, 2016, 08:28:37 AM
Take those times with a pinch of salt; the top cars were heavily race prepped. Even the lower categories were usually really loud - a good indication of aftermarket exhausts, and using sticky tyres.
Here's a representation of the top; The car on the left here, the porsche, was not timed (they did not put on the timing gizmo). Now that car has smoked the corvette (top on the list) like it was standing still. Blisteringly fast.
(http://i.imgur.com/yupXgyi.jpg)
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Bird on June 24, 2016, 08:32:45 AM
What's on obd2 sensor? This thing: https://www.amazon.com/BAFX-Products-34t5-Bluetooth-Android/dp/B005NLQAHS What does that record - speed and what else? What camera did you use?
Yes, thats the sort. I'm using the "OBDLink LX Bluetooth" as it was recommended. It connects to the cars obd2 port and records all kinds of engine data. You can fully diagnose the engine with it. (rpm, oil & air temps, Maf, you name it it's all there. Including error codes.)
The camera was simply the phone. Also the accelerometer & the gps are the phone's. You can use outside sources, but not necessary.
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Wally on June 24, 2016, 09:45:10 AM
That's pretty cool and simple.
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Wally on June 24, 2016, 09:48:10 AM
Remember when I did the higher track grip experiment? I think you can understand now the feeling I was trying to capture in-game. You can't just smash through the limit so easily, and real life feels massively grippier than the game.
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Bird on June 24, 2016, 11:02:53 AM
Yeah, I know what you mean. :)
But I reckon a lot is missing, especially the full peripheral vision. The lack of feeling of speed is crazy, looking at these videos or playing in-game - 160 feels sluggish. Well, it's not, when you're approaching T1 :D
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Gratulin on June 24, 2016, 05:12:08 PM
The lack of "real" peripheral vision was what I eventually realised was lacking in the VR headsets. It's amazing how much you can see beside you without turning your head or even consiously moving your eyes.
How much of your sim driving experience carried over to the real world?
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Bird on June 24, 2016, 11:40:55 PM
The lack of "real" peripheral vision was what I eventually realised was lacking in the VR headsets. It's amazing how much you can see beside you without turning your head or even consiously moving your eyes.
How much of your sim driving experience carried over to the real world?
Hard to tell but one comment from the instructor who sat in with me for the 2nd stint: "Very good lines. Have you done this before? Most rookies tend to turn in early, but you are nice and late"
However my braking was bad. I was too soft on the pedals, you need to jump on it like an animal to start with. I blame the sim pedals; they need no force, but finesse :D
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Gratulin on August 04, 2016, 04:22:40 PM
very nice vids, did you run the car there in it's original format, to compare the upgrade performance?
No, sadly not. I have wakefield laps and some quarter mile times - will use the latter for a direct comparison. But we'll have to organise a drag day with the mates for that, first. And everyone is busy...
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on August 11, 2016, 06:16:18 PM
Love the vids.
Tell me, how long does it take to warm the tyres up on that?
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: grat on August 11, 2016, 06:30:23 PM
Thanks for the vids, Bird... I am a bit too envious too fully enjoy them, but it's cool to watch them ;)
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Bird on August 11, 2016, 07:44:41 PM
Tell me, how long does it take to warm the tyres up on that?
These are still the stock street tyres. They don't warm up so much as overheat...I could feel it acutely in the braking zones, and to some extent in the corners as well after a couple of hard laps. I've overshot T2 the first time due to this. It's still a fairly fast approach, at around 140km/h and on the first couple of laps I could comfortably start braking at the 100m mark (just before actually)...not on the 3rd lap though. I've kept it on the black stuff, but just. A good 10m extra was required to pull it up.
But for the next run on the 22nd I've got my Nitto NT01 semi slicks lined up, getting it mounted over the weekend.
Grat; as you can see pretty much anyone with any car can participate (Altho I'd very strongly advise a brake fluid & maybe a brake pad upgrade). So just grab a helmet, buy an ARDC membership ($80 iirc), then you get 2 half priced trackdays at EC @ $170. Fill it up, and drive! ;)
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: grat on August 11, 2016, 08:16:45 PM
Grat; as you can see pretty much anyone with any car can participate (Altho I'd very strongly advise a brake fluid & maybe a brake pad upgrade). So just grab a helmet, buy an ARDC membership ($80 iirc), then you get 2 half priced trackdays at EC @ $170. Fill it up, and drive! ;)
Eheheh, I am too scared to do it with my only car. Maybe one day I should get my hands on a used rwd car and try. Who knows? The only thing I already have is a helmet (I drive an old scooter in the city any now and then).
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Wally on August 11, 2016, 09:35:33 PM
Good stuff Bird. What's the deal with passing - not allowed?
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Bird on August 11, 2016, 10:03:20 PM
Good stuff Bird. What's the deal with passing - not allowed?
The rule here was: no passing except on the main straight before the end of the grandstand, unless the guy in front waves you past. It was the same at Wakefield Park. This is for the beginner groups, mind you.
So that overtake on the white car might have been a bit "illegal" - but they don't take the rules that seriously, otherwise I'd have been called off for a chat. I did a couple of such overtakes in the later sessions, where I deemed it 100% safe, even if I wasn't waved past - where I had a decent speed difference, well before the corner.
In that first session I was pretty sure no-one knew if they were a boy or a girl, let alone navigate traffic so I didn't try anything funny. I remember the first time out at Wakefield, it wasn't that long ago ;)
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Bruce on August 12, 2016, 08:42:29 AM
Good stuff Bird. What's the deal with passing - not allowed?
The days I have participated in have a blanket rule: "no overtaking on turns", and just as well the old Holden would be holding a lot of cars back to 160klms!
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on August 12, 2016, 01:31:45 PM
I can't get over how much slower it appears in the videos compared to real life. I guess that's the same with AC.
I'd imagine it feels a hell of a lot faster out on track?
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Bird on August 12, 2016, 02:18:03 PM
I can't get over how much slower it appears in the videos compared to real life. I guess that's the same with AC.
I'd imagine it feels a hell of a lot faster out on track?
First it does, then funnily I actually fall back into "racing" mode and I don't even notice that I'm approaching the 1st corner at 190. It still feels faster I guess, but I don't really notice it. I guess the sim experience has prepared me quite a bit.
Except when you're cornering hard, you can feel every bit of it, and the road, too. When the car lurches or slides a bit, it's a very different experience. I tells ya, first time when I went a bit too hot into T1 (just a tiny bit) and the car started sliding a bit at 150...my sphincter has constricted considerably. But the car just went a bit wider there, with the lost speed I was in no danger of running wide at all. I think I had a lot to play with, still. But I didn't dare pushing - the grass was still wet, and it's like a skating rink to go out there. A few of the race cars have tested the grass, all ended up in the wall. Man, a broken ferrari is a sad sight...
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Bird on August 23, 2016, 10:37:07 PM
Wet day at EC....
Well, I've bungled the recording on the track day. So I've recorded 2 sessions, only, and one has some problem with the first lap, so here's all I got.
First session of the day from lap 2 (first lap does not work) on the new Nitto NT01's (semi slick...) https://youtu.be/aU-xSDbEbvw
And this was the fourth session of the day, different (continental) tyres, which should be more suited in the wet. There's a lap that's close to the best in this one, a 1:17, with a decent slide on exit out of T5 :) That lap starts around 9:30 into the video. https://youtu.be/DI5C4y_umyk
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on August 26, 2016, 05:56:10 PM
Looks good. I'd imagine driving in the wet is a lot more fun - a bit more sidewaysies?
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Bird on August 27, 2016, 10:41:45 AM
It's not really more fun, since you always worry about your car :) A lot more slippery, obviously, and a bit scary at places; eg hitting T1 at high speed, or feeling the car squiggle quite a bit from around 180 on the wet bitumen...
A chap in the advanced group put his porsche in the wall in the 2nd run. Those walls are pretty close. If you hit the wet grass, it's essentially game over. You have to nurse it out of the corners nearly every time. You get very different grips on corners depending on a million factors.
I did not dare to turn of the TC off (although it's in the more relaxed VSC sport mode, so I get a bit of leniency from it)
That bit of slide on the corner out (https://youtu.be/DI5C4y_umyk?t=10m34s)? The car saves my arse. I'm not confident I could do it and/or not game enough to try just yet. :)
Edit: It's all very-very different from the in-game driving. Very different. It's your car, your body, there's only one big mistake you can make, no more. Even just going over the curbs...in-game you don't give a fuck unless the car is totally upset. Here? I don't really want to go over them, it rattles everything in the car (driver included), feels really nasty.
Btw I'm starting to feel more differences to the in-game car. I've driven in-game a bit yesterday in preparation to the tuesday track day on the Amaroo layout. The in-game car is handling a bit more forgiving. Eg the real one likes to understeer a lot more when off-throttle, so you need the proper amount of throttle to turn it around a corner.
But what's really interesting is the dimensions of everything is different. The walls seem much closer, yet the track seems a lot wider. It's really different.
If you have a half-decent car (i.e. not a suv or a truck) & a track nearby, try it. It's not that expensive and I think it's really worth it. There are all kinds of cars out there as you can see. The people are usually pretty careful around each other. All you need is a car that can take a bit of hard driving.
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on August 27, 2016, 10:58:04 AM
I have a car that can be driven harder than any other car out there - it's the company car ;)
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Wally on August 27, 2016, 11:12:49 AM
Good write up Bird.
The visual differences must come down to an incorrect or compromised in-game FOV.
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Bird on August 27, 2016, 11:45:02 AM
Thanks. Yeah, it could be a bit of a mind-game, too. When you know it's your car, the walls cannot be far enough :D
I have a car that can be driven harder than any other car out there - it's the company car ;)
If there's no GPS on it... ;) Whereabouts are you? I'm sure there's a track nearby. Just do it. There's really no good reason to avoid it. Only excuses.
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on August 27, 2016, 12:09:30 PM
lol, I'm not sure it would be worth taking my little 4 cylinder Camry out. I think the nearest track for me would be either Calder Park, Sandown or Phillip Island. But they are still between 3 and 5 hours away :(
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Bird on August 27, 2016, 02:03:25 PM
Hm...ok, well, the next option is to hire a car. It's not that easy to find these options sometimes, but they exist, I'm sure, at every track. On top of it, it can get a bit pricey, too.
I know what it feels like to be 3hrs away - that's when I go to Wakefield Park. Bloody long drive !
Well, it seems your best option is: buy a Toyota 86 / Subaru BRZ ! :D I'm only half kidding, this car is a joy everywhere. I'm smiling every time I drive it anywhere. (except the freeway) Just have another big ass car when you need to pick up a bigger package somewhere :)
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Bird on August 31, 2016, 01:39:22 PM
Another track day yesterday, at the Amaroo (south) circuit at EC. Man, this track is twisty. It was an ARDC members day (yes, I'm a member of the illustrious Aussie Racing Drivers Club, ha!). Very friendly, and a bit more relaxed atmosphere. E.g. they didn't say there's no overtaking, they merely pointed out the places where it maybe done easiest, cleanest. Everyone seemed to be a bit more experienced, too. There were all kinds of cars, again, from the renault clio, mx5, holden whatnot to a couple of GTRs and a Lambo Superleggera. They were all happily sharing the track.
A few images (http://imgur.com/a/ZnsWM) & a video to illustrate:
https://youtu.be/xejc4tvYEr8
I've met Chris Reeves again, here who is racing 86s. He just bought another 86 (red!) , which he'll prepare for a trackday hire car. He was just having a bit of fun with it. All stock (including brakes!). He was friggen sliding everywhere on the stock tyres. Sadly I did not record a video of it, it was fun to hear & watch (for as much as the track was visible). But then he put some semis on (Hankook ventus is his choice) and the car became very nice & poised, it behaved and of course got faster. They've hand-timed his laps.
Yeah so the laptimes. I've manaded to get in a high 1.08 in the first session. Then asked Chris how he was doing on his stock car, he was in the 1.10. That was really impressive already. Then with the better tyres (stock size, btw) he managed to put in a 1.08. Then a 1.07. He said there's an 06 in it, but he dared not push it too much because the brakes were fading really badly, he never knew if he'll still have them by the next corner! (I know the feeling). That pissed me off that he beats me in his stock car, so I went all-out in the last session (or at least I thought I do, hehe) and I've managed a mid-1.07 too. It turns out I need inspiration to really push it. :D
So while his car did not have a header & tune, or improved pads on it, he still matched my time with ease. I've asked him if he'd drive mine around to see what comes out of it but he said he'd rather not in case he bins it. A shame, really, but understandable.
I had a good chase of an M3 in the first session (https://youtu.be/19n_3B6pvis?t=4m20s) - he was on Toyo Proxes, so the field was even (I was on the Nittos). I've caught him and he could not shake me. I was faster, no question. He was next to me in the car park, and later noted how fast the 86 was. Good times ;) I love this car.
The fastest lap is in the last one, starts about here (https://youtu.be/XkLu7p2c9ts?t=5m45s)
I've seen a beautiful Caterham, too, he was leaving after the morning session. I should have flipped out the phone for a photo.
It was a great day, except for my motion sickness which came in hard after the 2nd session - I had to take a Stemetil and miss the 3rd session to get back into the game.
Ok, so here are the driving videos in full, in case anyone is interested: https://youtu.be/19n_3B6pvis https://youtu.be/6rxWxW-UeUs https://youtu.be/XkLu7p2c9ts
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Wally on August 31, 2016, 01:49:06 PM
Jeez, you're starting to sound like a pro.
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Bird on August 31, 2016, 02:02:40 PM
Nah, very far from it. Just mingling with the folks and having heaps of fun. :) Again, anyone can do it with a half decent car. Did you see that clio? He had fun, too.
The car next to me in the car park was a gorgeous Nissan GTR (no photo, sorry). Driven by a chap around 70. He had fun, too, but he said it was a bit too much at his age, and left after two runs. Still, he was there.
Any age, any car. All you need is time. And a bit of money ( this day cost me $80 in entry fee, plus a tank of fuel - although usual price for a track day is in the $200-$400 range )
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on August 31, 2016, 03:16:33 PM
So freakin jealous Bird. Would love to give that a shot one day - and one day I shall!
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Joe on September 01, 2016, 09:07:45 AM
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Bruce on September 01, 2016, 09:35:33 AM
Thank you Bird, a really interesting report. Certainly a fun and the track looks fun, without too much high speed sections.
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Bird on September 01, 2016, 10:47:03 AM
Thanks, Joe, some chap put a ferrari engine in it, too. But just because you can do something does not mean you should :D I'm not into engine swaps. To be honest, I don't even want to turbo/supercharge it.
Bruce: yeah, it's a small twisty one. Bloody twisty ;)
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: marty on September 03, 2016, 07:51:39 PM
Good stuff Bird, I need to get back into some trackdays but will probably do it in my next car, current one probably needs some work to be able to flog it on track too much again. I actually like the idea of a slower car like yours though as you wouodnt be held up much on a regular track day. Having one of the quicker cars on track ends up mostly being held up and unlikely to get a clean lap in, having a fun little good handling slower car makes more sense most of the time. ;)
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: crimespree on September 03, 2016, 10:54:47 PM
Good stuff Bird, I need to get back into some trackdays but will probably do it in my next car, current one probably needs some work to be able to flog it on track too much again. I actually like the idea of a slower car like yours though as you wouodnt be held up much on a regular track day. Having one of the quicker cars on track ends up mostly being held up and unlikely to get a clean lap in, having a fun little good handling slower car makes more sense most of the time. ;)
Mate, this "slower" car beats the crap out of a lot of "faster" cars. Sylvias, golf R's, falcodores, and even beemers. They got straight line speed, all of them, but that means squat when it comes down to the laptime. I wasn't overtaken once in the last two days, (except GTR's) and caught up/kept up with twice/three times as expensive toys, hehe.
In this price range, the 86 is unbeatable, especially with a header & tune. I can highly recommend it if you consider tracking. Chris's 86 will be available very soon I'm sure, for a one-off test drive around wakefield park.
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on September 04, 2016, 10:35:20 AM
Considering getting my special lady to buy a track ready MX5 to use when she is back out from the UK and then using that for a bit of fun at the odd track day. Apparently there is a good MX5 racing series as well...
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Bird on September 04, 2016, 06:30:10 PM
Yeah, I've been contemplating the mx5. It's much lighter. If you can make it a bit more grunty - or if you get your hands on the turbo model....but even without, it would be heaps of fun I reckon.
I've based my decision on the looks as well, and the image of the mx5 - i.e. hairdresser car :D But don't let that sway you.
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Bird on September 15, 2016, 10:17:39 AM
Another track day at wakefield park. It was insane fun, so sorry about the long write-up, feel free to skip down to the videos. But I felt I had to share.
First of all; I did not get any motion sickness. Maybe because I've taken Chris' advice and run with open windows. This has improved the enjoyment a lot. Second: the day was mostly dry, even though the forecast was miserable. We only got rain in the afternoon. But boy was it fun! Third: I was fast(er) again! Last time I was in the 1:16s here, this time my fastest lap was a 1:12.75 Fourth: great company! I've had very nice neighbours again, the TrackSchool guys (organisers) were as friendly as ever, if not more. I've met other 86'ers. Very friendly ones. They pointed me towards a NSW 86 club. And I've met a chap who was/is a member of the xgn forums - Daveo555,from 10 years ago in the GTL league, and he's still a great chap, he was one of the officials. Small world!
And finally, and very importantly; I've turned off the TC after the 2nd session. I just felt it's time. It was just the 5s-TC button method, not the full pedal dance, by the way. Before this, I could always (well often) feel the TC intervening out of corners, even in sport VSC mode. Without, the car have livened up; I could chuck it into corners much better, and get out of corners with a bit of throttle very well. Laptimes tumbled at that point from mid-13's into the 12's.
The Nittos held up well, by the way. They seem like really nice tyres, altho I can see they won't last very long.
I've actually managed to push so hard that I went off in the dry! (half-spun out of a corner & over-corrected...) Finally I've met my skill limit :D And boy I had fun! The car is so much better without TC - it can bite a bit, but the wet session ....it's a story itself.
I went out behind a black mx5, he was very eager, mostly sideways out of corners. It was great to watch while catching my car a few times myself. We had too much fun for a few laps. He went off once, then I was leading he was following. When we parked after the session, in one minute he came around from the other row of boxes with the biggest bloody grin on his face (mirroring my face I guess) and we had a good laugh and chat about how fantastic this session was. He had some dirt racing background, and was very good - and brave - at getting the car sideways. :D
Dave actually came to us afterwards to chat because he and a bunch of guys were watching us and they saw how much fun we had and enjoyed watching us :)
Track days should be like a utility service, free and guaranteed for everyone! It was the best track day so far I've been at. I'm still smiling just thinking about it all. :D
Videos as promised ( tell me if you guys had enough :) )
Sorry about the noise, I had to keep the windows open. And sorry about the offset between the sensors & the video, Harry's laptimer while great, is not perfect. I'm trying to sort it out but it's a lower priority item - there's no simple solution it seems. I've talked to Harry.
This was my 5th track day, and I wasn't in the slow/beginner group now, thankfully.
Now, the videos:
Session 1 TC in sport mode. I've set the exact same fast laps twice, a:14.42, on lap #6 & #7 (link to the start of lap 6)
https://youtu.be/BDVHtZS-qnY?t=6m57s
Session2 TC in sport mode. 1:13.47 on lap #13, then 1:13.42 on lap #15 (linked) I've linked this with a bit of lead-in to show that overtaking was not restricted anymore, interestingly - and I made full use of it ;)
https://youtu.be/ym8g48uhL0A?t=7m35s
Session 3 TC off from here on! Fastest is a 1:12.93 on lap #23 (linked)
https://youtu.be/Ji3Wis1uJIY?t=7m42s
Session 4: I'm starting to push more, result; 1:12.75 on lap #29 (https://youtu.be/epAzLhR8cPE?t=2m46s) The white SS overtaking me a lap later is a 700HP supercharged V8. He was my neighbour. He pulls slowly away but I'm not far behind...up to a point. Me pushing results in a pretty poorly executed corner and subsequent visit to the grass here:
Session 6, the last session. It is slowly drying, so less sideways action from me. We've lined up with mr black mx5 again, but he was too good in the greasy conditions and pulled away
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Wally on September 15, 2016, 10:55:23 AM
That's amazing to run into Daveo555 like that.
Noob question: how do you change tyres? Do you have a whole other set of full wheels with the Nittos that you put on yourself before you head off to the track?
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Phil.8 on September 15, 2016, 11:19:25 AM
looks like a lot of fun Bird, wonder how an old restored holden v8 ute would like track days
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Bird on September 15, 2016, 01:09:14 PM
Noob question: how do you change tyres? Do you have a whole other set of full wheels with the Nittos that you put on yourself before you head off to the track?
Yeah full set with rims with tyres, drill used as rattle gun lately, torque key, jack...It's a lot of hassles to pack & unpack to be honest. Especially with the stupid heavy jack I got. I'll have to replace it. It's over 30kgs. Quite a few people I read just have one set of tyres that's trackable and road legal. It works, but it's a compromise; most good track tyres are expensive and you run them down in daily driving. And some aren't very good in the rain. And they tend to be noisy...(I know the nittos would drive me nuts with their noise)
looks like a lot of fun Bird, wonder how an old restored holden v8 ute would like track days
There are a few of those out there, it works as long as it's in good repair and regularly maintained. Track puts a bit of extra strain on everything so regular maintenance is the key I guess. Oh, and of course you probably need a ton of weight in the back to keep it settled :D
Btw I've measured my fuel usage this time with the car's average fuel usage thingo. It's 21L/100km on the track. Highway is 6L just for comparison. Nice, huh?
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Wally on September 15, 2016, 01:44:27 PM
So it doesn't take you 4 seconds to change tyres? What the hell are you doing?!?
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Bird on September 15, 2016, 02:54:15 PM
What are you talking about? This is how my team does it: https://giant.gfycat.com/JitteryAmpleIndianrhinoceros.webm
4 secs...pffh!
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Crossmember on September 15, 2016, 06:08:15 PM
Was great to meet you mate. Glad you had a ball out there, most guys packed up and left when it rained where you just had a blast! (http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m382/daveoliver686/DOP_7659_zpslmjvfqii.jpg)
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Bird on September 15, 2016, 07:53:26 PM
Oh, nice photo, thanks! Great to see you here, too ;)
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Wally on September 17, 2016, 05:14:32 PM
Are you watching the Toyota 86 racing at Sandown on TV?
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: grat on September 17, 2016, 11:57:14 PM
Title: Re: My track day vids
Post by: Bird on September 18, 2016, 10:31:44 PM
Thanks for that vid, it was a good watch. That T1 spin was really scary - T1 was around 150 for me on stock tyres - these guys are going at it a lot harder!
Btw my car is the red one with black wings, didn't you see the photo by daveo555 (aka crossmember)? ;)
The racers are going at it really-really hard. I'm not even in the ballpark.