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S20R1: Tor Poznan Post-Race Chat
« on: December 19, 2017, 06:43:19 PM »
RACE 1 RESULTS
RACE 2 RESULTS
RACE 3 RESULTS
SEASON STATS
SEASON STANDINGS

Penalties
Race 1
Dave O moved sideways into Simone, sending him off onto the grass at high speed where he slid back onto the track and took a few people out. That resulted in Shameless dodging right to avoid Simone, where he hit the side of Gratulin, turning him into another high-speed cannon ball. So it all started from a fairly innocuous albeit high-speed side-to-side impact, with drastic consequences. Because it was a side-to-side impact, no penalty.

Race 2
Dave O ran into the back of Seanus, spinning him and causing a pile up – 50 kg penalty ballast.

Race 3
Seanus ran into the back of Dave O, spinning him – 50 kg penalty ballast.

Round Points
Kcender87   94 (Fastest lap)
Phil.8   81 (Fastest lap)
Grat   75 (Pole and fastest lap)
Godzilla   71
killagorilla   69
Shayne   69
buellersdayoff   55
Freezer   49
Matthew111   48
JamieP   45
Shameless   45
Wally   44
Bacchulum   38
Joe   38
Mael   38
ab156   37
Dave O   36
Seanus   31
RussG   29
Simone   11
Gratulin   0
Rob   0

Congratulations to Grat, Godzilla and Kcender for their race wins, and Kcender for the overall round win.

Contact Report and Restrictor (Race 2)

Freezer
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    Lap 1: 15 kph
    Lap 1: 80 kph (+7 restrictor)
    Lap 5: 56 kph (+4 restrictor)
    Lap 11: 43 kph (+2 restrictor)
    Lap 12: 140 kph (+10 restrictor)

Kcender87
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    Lap 1: 21 kph
    Lap 1: 13 kph
    Lap 1: 8 kph
    Lap 1: 36 kph (+1 restrictor)
    Lap 1: 25 kph
    Lap 1: 11 kph

killagorilla
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    Lap 1: 27 kph
    Lap 6: 15 kph
    Lap 6: 11 kph
    Lap 8: 48 kph (+3 restrictor)
    Lap 12: 30 kph

Grat
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    Lap 1: 0 kph
    Lap 1: 47 kph (+3 restrictor)
    Lap 1: 19 kph
    Lap 1: 19 kph
    Lap 1: 21 kph
    Lap 2: 1 kph
    Lap 6: 18 kph
    Lap 6: 165 kph (+10 restrictor)
    Lap 6: 77 kph (+7 restrictor)
    Lap 7: 17 kph
    Lap 7: 1 kph
    Lap 7: 64 kph (+5 restrictor)
    Lap 7: 28 kph
    Lap 11: 12 kph
    Lap 11: 56 kph (+4 restrictor)
    Lap 11: 41 kph (+2 restrictor)
    Lap 12: 10 kph
    Lap 12: 9 kph

Matthew111
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    Lap 1: 15 kph
    Lap 1: 49 kph (+3 restrictor)
    Lap 1: 28 kph
    Lap 1: 15 kph
    Lap 1: 34 kph (+1 restrictor)
    Lap 7: 25 kph
    Lap 7: 22 kph
    Lap 11: 10 kph
    Lap 11: 35 kph (+1 restrictor)
    Lap 12: 49 kph (+3 restrictor)
    Lap 12: 34 kph (+1 restrictor)

Simone
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    Lap 1: 43 kph (+2 restrictor)
    Lap 12: 15 kph

ab156
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    Lap 1: 8 kph
    Lap 10: 19 kph

Shameless
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    Lap 1: 8 kph
    Lap 3: 54 kph (+4 restrictor)
    Lap 6: 11 kph
    Lap 8: 9 kph
    Lap 12: 23 kph

Seanus
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    Lap 1: 60 kph (+4 restrictor)
    Lap 1: 166 kph (+10 restrictor)
    Lap 1: 94 kph (+9 restrictor)
    Lap 1: 65 kph (+5 restrictor)

Shayne
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    Lap 1: 140 kph (+10 restrictor)
    Lap 3: 41 kph (+2 restrictor)

Dave O
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    Lap 1: 6 kph
    Lap 1: 51 kph (+3 restrictor)
    Lap 1: 37 kph (+1 restrictor)
    Lap 1: 5 kph

Wally
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    Lap 1: 21 kph
    Lap 6: 11 kph
    Lap 8: 66 kph (+5 restrictor)
    Lap 8: 46 kph (+3 restrictor)
    Lap 8: 117 kph (+10 restrictor)
    Lap 10: 19 kph

Joe
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    Lap 1: 84 kph (+7 restrictor)
    Lap 1: 106 kph (+10 restrictor)
    Lap 1: 26 kph
    Lap 1: 39 kph (+2 restrictor)
    Lap 1: 52 kph (+3 restrictor)
    Lap 1: 66 kph (+5 restrictor)
    Lap 12: 15 kph
    Lap 12: 140 kph (+10 restrictor)
    Lap 12: 105 kph (+10 restrictor)

Bacchulum
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    Lap 1: 77 kph (+7 restrictor)
    Lap 1: 22 kph
    Lap 7: 57 kph (+4 restrictor)
    Lap 7: 30 kph
    Lap 7: 15 kph
    Lap 7: 36 kph (+1 restrictor)
    Lap 12: 27 kph
    Lap 12: 339 kph (+10 restrictor)

Mael
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    Lap 1: 56 kph (+4 restrictor)
    Lap 1: 11 kph
    Lap 1: 25 kph
    Lap 1: 14 kph
    Lap 1: 7 kph
    Lap 1: 54 kph (+4 restrictor)
    Lap 7: 31 kph (+1 restrictor)
    Lap 7: 3 kph
    Lap 7: 29 kph
    Lap 7: 36 kph (+1 restrictor)
    Lap 12: 32 kph (+1 restrictor)

RussG
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    Lap 1: 65 kph (+5 restrictor)
    Lap 1: 71 kph (+6 restrictor)
    Lap 1: 45 kph (+2 restrictor)
    Lap 1: 108 kph (+10 restrictor)
    Lap 1: 70 kph (+6 restrictor)
    Lap 1: 94 kph (+9 restrictor)
    Lap 12: 148 kph (+10 restrictor)

Phil.8
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    Lap 2: 9 kph
    Lap 5: 20 kph

JamieP
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    Lap 12: 26 kph
« Last Edit: December 19, 2017, 11:48:27 PM by Wally »
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Re: S20R1: Tor Poznan Post-Race Chat
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2017, 10:36:23 PM »
First competition in months!! I had a ball!!  Great stuff!!     Merry Christmas to all of you and enjoy your festivities with your family.
...see you next year!!

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Re: S20R1: Tor Poznan Post-Race Chat
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2017, 10:58:26 PM »
Thanks for the racing and the later start, means I shouldn’t need to come up with a bunch of reasons I need to leave work early on tuesdays...
First time I’ve raced on this track, it has a good flow, prety cool.. Race 1 was a nightmare being taken out at corner 2 and having the car destroyed, can’t believe how much top speed it lost. Race 2 and 3 were much better though :)

Looking forward to the next round

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Re: S20R1: Tor Poznan Post-Race Chat
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2017, 11:22:11 PM »
I didn't expect to do well, had very little practice, managed only 1:43s and maybe a high 42 so didnt expect to do any better and be at least 4 seconds off pace. Did okay in the first race, saw a few offs and tried to stay out of it.  On the first left hander I saw poor Joe get caught up in an accident that 2 other cars had which sent him from the right straight across to the left of the circuit, I had time to change down and break to avoid T-boning him, lost a spot or 2 and finished where I expected. 

The 2nd race I was thrown up in the top 5 and tried to hold off people that were faster than me for as long as I could.. Watching good battles going on behind me  as I turned to defensive racing.  Finished around 10th or 11th I think or close to it..

The 3rd race I was tired and hot so I took it a little easier, some good racing by shayne and a good side by side battle with Wally. 4% restrictor didnt hold me up enough and had fun making my ass as fat as I could to make it hard without deliberately trying to block. I still suffer from understeer issues due to joystick, so i need to tweak the setup more.

Merry Christmas everyone and thanks for a good night.
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Re: S20R1: Tor Poznan Post-Race Chat
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2017, 11:56:14 PM »
Sorry for the hit Simone  :-[ hadn't even realized I'd made contact. And apologies to Seanus also, just about managed to pull up enough  :(

Should have a most carnage causeed award  ;D I'd be leading.  With 50kg next week most of the field should be safe ;D
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Re: S20R1: Tor Poznan Post-Race Chat
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2017, 11:59:16 PM »
In race 1 I copped a hit in the first lap incident which broke my windscreen and damaged my rear, but I don't think my times suffered at all. That race was a big struggle with Joe and Shameless, who I never managed to pass.

Race 2 was the three-wide squeeze into Turn 1 with Shameless and Killagorilla (I think). I came off the worst for wear when 3 into 1 didn't go, and came off onto the grass and hit the barrier, dropping 10 spots in the process. More close racing with Ab156 and Mael. I was lucky at the end when there were a few contacts and offs in front of me on the last lap, gifting me 5 spots to finish 11th.

Race 3 was a really good battle again with Shameless massive Beemer, Joe, Mael and Bacchulum. Lots of dicing and angling for position. It's entertaning racing, having to attack and defend at the same time. This time I finally managed to pass Shameless, on the last lap, after being side by side for a good part of it and not touching. Good racing.
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Re: S20R1: Tor Poznan Post-Race Chat
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2017, 06:43:28 AM »
Sorry I missed all the action. The internet kept dropping out. I tried several times during practice and qually, but finally gave up.

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Re: S20R1: Tor Poznan Post-Race Chat
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2017, 09:44:36 AM »
That BMW is certainly not a favourite of mine, but racing was close and I enjoyed it.
The track was new to me and if I raced this car before I can't remember.
There's an accident with Grat where he pulled right in front of me probably assuming he already fully passed me. That wasn't the case and resulted in him going off.
Otherwise I managed to keep the car on track and stay out of trouble.
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Re: S20R1: Tor Poznan Post-Race Chat
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2017, 11:03:13 AM »
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    Lap 1: 77 kph (+7 restrictor)
    Lap 1: 22 kph
    Lap 7: 57 kph (+4 restrictor)
    Lap 7: 30 kph
    Lap 7: 15 kph
    Lap 7: 36 kph (+1 restrictor)
    Lap 12: 27 kph
    Lap 12: 339 kph (+10 restrictor)
I didn't think this car went that fast!?!? :o :o

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« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2017, 11:22:27 AM »
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    Lap 1: 77 kph (+7 restrictor)
    Lap 1: 22 kph
    Lap 7: 57 kph (+4 restrictor)
    Lap 7: 30 kph
    Lap 7: 15 kph
    Lap 7: 36 kph (+1 restrictor)
    Lap 12: 27 kph
    Lap 12: 339 kph (+10 restrictor)
I didn't think this car went that fast!?!? :o :o
The server reports relative speed, but even that looks excessive! It doesn't really matter, because any impact over 100 kph gets 10% restrictor.
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« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2017, 11:24:44 AM »
How are people getting speed out of this car? Are you running TC on or off? I left TC on as I find it a little too easy to oversteer out of corners with it off (as did Mael!). If you slide the car, you lose a heap of time.
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« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2017, 11:41:34 AM »
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The server reports relative speed, but even that looks excessive!
That one was with the armco, so the speed had to all come from the car!

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How are people getting speed out of this car? Are you running TC on or off? I left TC on as I find it a little too easy to oversteer out of corners with it off (as did Mael!). If you slide the car, you lose a heap of time.
I think it's shift points.
I was exiting corners equal to others but being blown away by the end of the straights. :'(
With a fixed 'box, it's not ratios, and I just changed where Race Essentials suggested (7000rpm).
(TC off, btw)

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« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2017, 11:49:37 AM »
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The server reports relative speed, but even that looks excessive!
That one was with the armco, so the speed had to all come from the car!

You must have been hiding some nitro's in that car Bacchulum, explains why I could not get past you!  Sorry for the bump leading to the incident, just misjudged it slightly; but I really did not think it was necessary to accelerate into the barriers  ;D

Think TC off is quicker in this car on the provision you concentrate, I got a bit tired after a long day at work and paid for it in the second and third race.

 

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« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2017, 12:15:31 PM »
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How are people getting speed out of this car? Are you running TC on or off? I left TC on as I find it a little too easy to oversteer out of corners with it off (as did Mael!). If you slide the car, you lose a heap of time.

Interesting you mentioned it. I haven't even tried TC off...thought it's useless.
Will do for the next one.
However, I did make changes to ride height, toe, camber and dampers.

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« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2017, 12:22:44 PM »
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How are people getting speed out of this car? Are you running TC on or off? I left TC on as I find it a little too easy to oversteer out of corners with it off (as did Mael!). If you slide the car, you lose a heap of time.

Interesting you mentioned it. I haven't even tried TC off...thought it's useless.
Will do for the next one.
However, I did make changes to ride height, toe, camber and dampers.
Hmmmm, I might experiment with camber and ride height. I left those at default values, thinking they'd be good enough by default on a race car.
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