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Why lap times got slower
« on: July 21, 2014, 08:30:47 AM »
@Phil

http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/update-0-21.12363/page-26#post-205001

In the new server cfg, there is a new grip level randomness setting which was still on the default 15%. Explains why the next race was 3 seconds off the pace of the previous one. Very confusing when trying different setups! I'll make sure the randomness is set to 0.
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Re: Why lap times got slower
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2014, 08:38:12 AM »
Very interesting, good find.

I just found this thread a Dev replied and explained the randomness

http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/dynamic-track-option.12468/

What is Kunos trying to attempt here? One could assume they don't want us to race on the same track conditions each race.

Do we want static track conditions or does this add to the realism? Would this require different car setups each time?


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Re: Why lap times got slower
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2014, 08:57:05 AM »
I'd vouch for randomness :)

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Re: Why lap times got slower
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2014, 09:02:14 AM »
That explains it on the server the other day, when pace dropped off for no real reason.

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Re: Why lap times got slower
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2014, 10:40:15 AM »
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Re: Why lap times got slower
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2014, 10:52:23 AM »
Until (if) we get a proper racing line, I'd rather leave the grip non random.  It makes setup changes too hard to assess.
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Re: Why lap times got slower
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2014, 11:06:48 AM »
Until (if) we get a proper racing line, I'd rather leave the grip non random.  It makes setup changes too hard to assess.

Yup, you would be constantly adjusting tire pressures. I do like his thinking though and would like to see how much it does effect the grip levels, at least knowing that could have elevated past frustration of not knowing why some days PB's were easy and other days at least a second off.

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Re: Why lap times got slower
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2014, 12:55:28 PM »
This was only since the last update, to be clear.
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Re: Why lap times got slower
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2014, 01:00:55 PM »
This was only since the last update, to be clear.

Oh so my frustrations remain... :-[

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Re: Why lap times got slower
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2014, 01:15:28 PM »
This was only since the last update, to be clear.

Oh so my frustrations remain... :-[

Actually, they might have only exposed the server settings in the last update. Maybe there always was a bit of randomness. Makes hotels records a bit difficult though... It couldn't have been random.
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Re: Why lap times got slower
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2014, 01:44:30 PM »
But if it's true, you need to up it to 1000%, keep restarting the server until you hit the jackpot, then dominate the RSR list :D

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Re: Why lap times got slower
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2014, 01:57:46 PM »
Ah, I thought on Saturday arvo when a few of us had some races there was less grip during the race.  So I wasn't going mad...

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Re: Why lap times got slower
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2014, 02:57:34 PM »
This was only since the last update, to be clear.

Oh so my frustrations remain... :-[

Actually, they might have only exposed the server settings in the last update. Maybe there always was a bit of randomness. Makes hotels records a bit difficult though... It couldn't have been random.

Quite possible, as most did struggle to get near their PB's on the server and sometimes people were doing better times so who knows  ;D

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Re: Why lap times got slower
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2014, 04:17:42 PM »
Until (if) we get a proper racing line, I'd rather leave the grip non random.  It makes setup changes too hard to assess.
So does non-random still have live track progression?
I've been waiting so long for live track in a decent sim it would be a shame not to use it.
Like getting weather and always running in the dry. ???

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Re: Why lap times got slower
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2014, 04:24:51 PM »
Until (if) we get a proper racing line, I'd rather leave the grip non random.  It makes setup changes too hard to assess.
So does non-random still have live track progression?
I've been waiting so long for live track in a decent sim it would be a shame not to use it.
Like getting weather and always running in the dry. ???

And: what does racing line has to do with random conditions?  (sorry but I really don't get it - for me it's two separate things)

I don't believe you'll "need" to adjust setups, but you certainly need to adjust your driving...and that's a welcome thing in my books. :)

 

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