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Title: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: Wally on April 18, 2018, 07:45:45 AM
Let's try a single hour race (46 laps).

Tyre wear will be 1.5x, to simulate wear over a real life race distance of 1hr30.
Fuel rate is 1.5x.
Tyre warmers will be ON.

No refuelling at pitstops, but you can do whatever you have to do regarding tyres. Refuelling is also allowed.
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: Bacchulum on April 20, 2018, 05:12:32 PM
No refuelling at pitstops, but you can do whatever you have to do regarding tyres.
That sux.
I can only get 39.6 laps out of a tank. :(
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: grat on April 20, 2018, 06:45:12 PM
No refuelling at pitstops, but you can do whatever you have to do regarding tyres.
That sux.
I can only get 39.6 laps out of a tank. :(
mmmm,... they still had refuelling back then... didn't they? But still, it's weird the tank is so small... I think I remember they could do a 1 stopper easily. No?
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: Bacchulum on April 20, 2018, 08:37:10 PM
Yeah, they had refueling, hence the small tank, but 1-stoppers were track dependent (and F1 drivers have been fuel saving since the '70s).
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: Wally on April 21, 2018, 11:13:59 AM
Oh, did they? I thought they didn't. Yeah, banned from 84 to 94, then again from 2010. Looks like we'll have to allow refuelling then.
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: marty on April 21, 2018, 02:27:18 PM
No refuelling at pitstops, but you can do whatever you have to do regarding tyres.
That sux.
I can only get 39.6 laps out of a tank. :(
mmmm,... they still had refuelling back then... didn't they? But still, it's weird the tank is so small... I think I remember they could do a 1 stopper easily. No?

In 2004 they had an interesting rule where you started the race with the fuel you finished qualy with, I doubt anyone did a 1 stop as they would have to qualify too heavy. 2 and 3 stops were common from what I saw plus Schumacher did win in france by switching to a 4 stopper and running qualy stints to beat Alonso who had track position on him early and it didnt look like he could pass him on track.

They were also the fastest f1 cars until this year but if they were allowed to qualify on light fuel they would still probably hold track records over this years cars as qualifying with 8 to 15 laps of extra fuel was costing them a bit of time in qualy.
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: Wally on April 21, 2018, 03:46:37 PM
Hello lurker.
They had some interesting rules then. I hope to have a season where the pit stop strategy actually comes into it for a change.
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: marty on April 21, 2018, 06:13:12 PM
Hello lurker.
They had some interesting rules then. I hope to have a season where the pit stop strategy actually comes into it for a change.

Did a season in these at ROOZ, strategy choices were fun. We did a couple full gp distances and 2 and 3 stops were both options. A 1 stop would be too slow as running heavy loses heaps of time and a fuel an tyres stop was usually about 20 secomds lost but could be 2 secs per lap faster.
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: Mael on April 21, 2018, 10:35:41 PM
Did a season in these at ROOZ, strategy choices were fun. We did a couple full gp distances and 2 and 3 stops were both options. A 1 stop would be too slow as running heavy loses heaps of time and a fuel an tyres stop was usually about 20 secomds lost but could be 2 secs per lap faster.

Thus after a season with the F2004 Marty can confirm my view that the 1975 cars are a better choice  ;D
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: grat on April 22, 2018, 12:05:45 AM
Did a season in these at ROOZ, strategy choices were fun. We did a couple full gp distances and 2 and 3 stops were both options. A 1 stop would be too slow as running heavy loses heaps of time and a fuel an tyres stop was usually about 20 secomds lost but could be 2 secs per lap faster.

Thus after a season with the F2004 Marty can confirm my view that the 1975 cars are a better choice  ;D
If we have to go historical, I then propose again the Porsche short/long tail thingy... love that car.
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: Wally on April 22, 2018, 09:47:46 AM
I've upped the fuel rate to 1.5x, to match RL conditions. This means you can get about 25 laps out of a tank.

In real life, most drivers did 2 or 3
stops in a race.
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: Wally on April 22, 2018, 10:15:11 AM
I restarted the practice server with 1.5x tyre and fuel rates.
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: Joe on April 24, 2018, 03:55:22 PM
Is this tonight? Been away just got back
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: Bacchulum on April 24, 2018, 04:48:27 PM
Is this tonight? Been away just got back
Yep.
Better get lappin'. ;)
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: rob on April 24, 2018, 06:22:24 PM
Hey Wally, I've come down with the mother of all flues.  Definitely won't be there tonight.
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: Wally on April 24, 2018, 06:27:38 PM
Hey Wally, I've come down with the mother of all flues.  Definitely won't be there tonight.
Get well!

Server's up.
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: Freezer on April 24, 2018, 07:03:33 PM
Hi guys, might sit this one out tonight and wait for the 1975 Season  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: Dave O on April 24, 2018, 07:46:12 PM
Hey Wally, I've come down with the mother of all flues.  Definitely won't be there tonight.


Not good Rob  :( Take care mate, hope you get well soon  ;) Dave O.
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: Bacchulum on April 24, 2018, 07:52:38 PM
Hey Wally, I've come down with the mother of all flues.  Definitely won't be there tonight.
I hope it's not the dreaded Brisbane Flu I've heard about. :(
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: Phil.8 on April 24, 2018, 09:41:01 PM
Unfortunately had to take a phone call at the first corner of the first lap and then a few laps later again,  then discovered 1 stop wasn't going to work and going into the pits my car spun and smashed , after that I tried hards which was too slow and ended up smashing again pushing to hard , aside from all that I like the car,

Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: doobs on April 24, 2018, 09:42:28 PM
I intended to have a crack tonight but didn't get my shit done early enough.
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: Wally on April 24, 2018, 10:02:41 PM
RACE RESULTS (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2018/04/fun-run-ferrari-f2004-at-imola.html)

Congratulations to the podium:

1. Kcender87
2. Mael
3. RussG
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: Wally on April 24, 2018, 10:25:59 PM
I was chuffed to finish 4th after qualifying 14th!
I did 2 long stints on hards, and then intended to finish off with a short stint on mediums, but I forgot that you have to manually select the next preset (I thought it automatically advanced to the next preset). So in my last stop, I put on hards again and took on way too much fuel.

I thought the racing was good, with less bad accidents than I had expected. Contacts were pretty low. I had a few chases, got lapped, passed some lapped cars... finished within 3 seconds of Bueller.

Some observations...

Cutting
C'mon guys... we've done 21 seasons! If you don't like getting cuts, keep it on the black stuff. It doesn't take long to figure out where the danger spots are - just be careful in those spots. In a longer race (being 3 times longer than some of our sprints), you are going to get more cuts.

Tyre Wear
I thought the multiplier was about right (1.5x is based on real life races being 1.5x longer). It mixes up the tyre strategies. Of the finishers, most people did 3 stints on mediums (2 stops). A couple did 4 stints on mediums (3 stops). I did 2 hard stints and 1 medium stint (2 stops). In real life, drivers did 2 or 3 stops.

Race too long?
There was a comment that the race was too long and the field got spread out. I think it's OK... a longer race opens up more pitstop strategies, and is more of a concentration test. This is F1, after all :)

Blue flags
As always, watch for blue flags and don't race the car behind if you're a lap down. Be aware.
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: killagorilla on April 24, 2018, 10:27:48 PM
I was a bit slow...but I compensated that with a bad pitstop strategy and making lots of mistakes ;-)  Apologies to Seanus.
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: killagorilla on April 24, 2018, 10:32:05 PM
I was chuffed to finish 4th after qualifying 14th!
I did 2 long stints on hards, and then intended to finish off with a short stint on mediums, but I forgot that you have to manually select the next preset (I thought it automatically advanced to the next preset). So in my last stop, I put on hards again and took on way too much fuel.

I thought the racing was good, with less bad accidents than I had expected. Contacts were pretty low. I had a few chases, got lapped, passed some lapped cars... finished within 3 seconds of Bueller.

Some observations...

Cutting
C'mon guys... we've done 21 seasons! If you don't like getting cuts, keep it on the black stuff. It doesn't take long to figure out where the danger spots are - just be careful in those spots. In a longer race (being 3 times longer than some of our sprints), you are going to get more cuts.

Tyre Wear
I thought the multiplier was about right (1.5x is based on real life races being 1.5x longer). It mixes up the tyre strategies. Of the finishers, most people did 3 stints on mediums (2 stops). A couple did 4 stints on mediums (3 stops). I did 2 hard stints and 1 medium stint (2 stops). In real life, drivers did 2 or 3 stops.

Race too long?
There was a comment that the race was too long and the field got spread out. I think it's OK... a longer race opens up more pitstop strategies, and is more of a concentration test. This is F1, after all :)

Blue flags
As always, watch for blue flags and don't race the car behind if you're a lap down. Be aware.

I think you're right. Good to have some variety after all.
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: Mael on April 24, 2018, 10:32:18 PM
Hi guys, might sit this one out tonight and wait for the 1975 Season  ;D ;D ;D

 Smart man ;D

Quote
Cutting
C'mon guys... we've done 21 seasons! If you don't like getting cuts, keep it on the black stuff. It doesn't take long to figure out where the danger spots are - just be careful in those spots. In a longer race (being 3 times longer than some of our sprints), you are going to get more cuts.

We suppose to simulate F1, cutting is almost mandatory as well as moaning about everything.

Quote
Race too long?
There was a comment that the race was too long and the field got spread out. I think it's OK... a longer race opens up more pitstop strategies, and is more of a concentration test. This is F1, after all :)

I like the longer race, just a bit worried we might lose a lot of drivers during the season. The high tire wear also forced most of us into the same 2 stop strategy at approximately the sale laps, but this is highly track dependent so may not be a problem during a season.



Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: Mael on April 24, 2018, 10:35:16 PM
Forgot to ask, who was Daniel S? He looked like having the pace to keep Kcender honest!
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: kcender87 on April 24, 2018, 10:40:22 PM
Thought it was a good race including distance and wear / fuel

My math suggested a one stop Hard Hard was possible and assuming no errors could be up to 2.1 seconds faster over the entire race than a Med Med Med 2 stop but the Med Med Med gave a lighter car on average and was more competitive in traffic or groups. Given Marty's party mode of a qualli lap I decided the med med med was best to make sure i could fight at the start.

Def multiple strategy possible for the race - was good - these races will be won on strategy as much as outright pace i reckon
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: Wally on April 24, 2018, 10:44:34 PM
Forgot to ask, who was Daniel S? He looked like having the pace to keep Kcender honest!
I'm not sure, but the name's vaguely familiar.

I like the longer race, just a bit worried we might lose a lot of drivers during the season. The high tire wear also forced most of us into the same 2 stop strategy at approximately the sale laps, but this is highly track dependent so may not be a problem during a season.
Losing drivers through a season happens regardless. It's a no-win situation with tyre wear. If I lower the tyre wear, then everyone will stop once in the middle of the race. There is scope to experiment with a very short stint on softs, throw in a hard stint. I think everyone was just a little conservative and played the safe "3 equal stints on mediums" card out of uncertainty.
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: Matthew111 on April 24, 2018, 11:04:10 PM
Daniel was my cousin, invited him to have a go :)

I tried doing the 1 stop on meds and it flopped haha i didnt do any heavy load laps in prac so when i decided to make the car 130kg heavier for the race it was a basket case and caught me out, the car on full fuel was very understeery and bottomed out a bit so defs need to change the set for the race. The potential is there for it to be done but your way slower than everyone around you and you really have to be on the ball with the car as it changes characteristics in the stint but if you drove it right and kept it in the 21's it may work, daniel was going ok with it but he had less fuel than me in the first stint, he was going for a 1 stop but didnt know how to pit lol. If the tyre wear was less it could be interesting otherwise it is very hard towards the end of the stint when all the tyres are red lol, i should try hards maybe they will work better if there not too much slower.
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: Joe on April 25, 2018, 08:53:27 AM
Hadn't done any practise but was quite happy how I went between crashes. It was mostly hotlapping but I enjoyed it.
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: Phil.8 on April 25, 2018, 09:02:46 AM
What sort of wing was kcender and Matthew using I wonder, I Find these very hard to know where to start with a setup
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: buellersdayoff on April 25, 2018, 09:07:13 AM
Went with 3 stint meds and carried just enough fuel for each stint (ran out of fuel just after finish line), it worked out OK for me but I'm just not fast enough, mainly consistency, I had a couple of off's, heaps of cuts and I think I had about 3 10sec penalties. With the meds I was faster than the other guys with hard but it was really hard pass them. Caused an incident with Wally but redressed (sorry). Still a pretty cool race night, though I think the slower more forgiving cars are more my thing.
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: RussG on April 25, 2018, 09:12:40 AM
I like these longer races. I don't mind if it's not all door to door racing, but instead trying to bridge that gap or hold the gap to the car behind. Also strategy decisions will come into it at different circuits where you might be happy to let people get away while your playing the long game and trying to do one less pit stop.

I had too many offs for my liking last night, but can't complain with the outcome. I was watching tyre wear and gaps all through the race. Had some close racing with Matthew who was on a different strategy. Thought Wally was doing a one stopper and I was going to have to catch and pass him on track if I wanted the place, but then he made another stop.

Wally: regarding cuts that aren't cuts. I know that PLP has the green/red light to tell you if you are going to get a cut when you come back on but I usually don't see it. Maybe make it bigger or an option to make it bigger so you can't miss the red light. I don't even know where I got the cuts last night.
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: Matthew111 on April 25, 2018, 09:29:12 AM
pretty sure my set is close to stock, ill post it soon. I think i had too much wing i noticed i had a lot of people close in on me on the straights unless it was the fuel load.
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: buellersdayoff on April 25, 2018, 09:59:01 AM
My set up was basically stock, only adjusted camber with the camber app, minor change to ratio, and dropped a little off the wings. Maybe a minor tweak to suspension, stiffer front softer rear but can't remember if I saved that. My gearing and aero felt I had a decent balance of top speed and corner grip but there were others that passed me easy in the slip stream. I also like to keep the wheel alignment as close to zero as possible with slight negative front and slight positive rear (pretty much with all cars, less drag and tyre wear). Oh and tyre pressure with Wally's app
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: Matthew111 on April 25, 2018, 10:38:46 AM
That's the set I ran was great in qual.
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: Wally on April 25, 2018, 10:39:23 AM
I am not opening PLP cuts to discussion, because we've been round and round this umpteen times. Just stay on the track - it's that simple. Keep it on the black stuff. This is not the Dakkar Rally - you can't have a track without boundaries, and the track boundaries are the same for everyone.

PLP only detects when all 4 wheels are outside what is considered valid track surface. If you can't keep at least 1 wheel on the track, back off a little, clean up your line.

Here are some examples of what the app reports as cuts and what is safe at Imola.

SAFE on the left, CUT on the right, at the same track location. Look at how far you can be outside the white lines and still be considered safe.

(https://i.imgur.com/TKqRpdZ.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/1iqyMZj.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/DOYQG85.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/1WpotQd.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/zzt74jV.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/lXETPyy.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/8f7hwdi.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/K0K8euF.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/wgyukRZ.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/EEg8xly.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/QtLPYDQ.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/vVTzgIm.jpg)

We all know that AC has different boundaries at different tracks, particularly in terms of runoff areas. The game is what it is. You have plenty of time to learn where the limits are.

What I will consider is increasing the number of warnings before you get a penalty, due to the length of the race and the number of laps.
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: Phil.8 on April 25, 2018, 10:55:33 AM
That's the set I ran was great in qual.

Thanks,  I ran way to little wing, it was hard to be consistent, Had to be spot on for a decent lap which was hard to replicate to often,  I was 12f and 14R
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: Wally on April 25, 2018, 10:59:03 AM
...Wally: regarding cuts that aren't cuts...
... Jack booted persuasion....

Never has my signature and the above quote been so appropriate.
(no not the second part, that's a joke)

Despite your protestations it still stands that the current PLP config leads to dissent, whereas my config I would hope would lead to nigh on all members being happy AND still serving all that PLP was designed for in the first place.

I don't understand your aversion to track limits. A track is defined by it's limits, it's boundaries. How can you define a track and then not expect people to stay on it? That doesn't even make sense to me.

I thought about the "number of cuts at a given corner" idea, and that has some merits, but it's fairly complicated. I'd have to keep a number of warnings per corner - that's doable - but then how do you know how many warnings you've had at each corner? You'd never take in the number of warnings flashing up each time you drove through a corner, especially at the speed of the F2004. I think the best compromise is just to increase the number of warnings due to the longer race.

The worst offender went outside of track limits 24 times! Matthew only went outside once.
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: Wally on April 25, 2018, 11:00:59 AM
...Wally: regarding cuts that aren't cuts...
... Jack booted persuasion....

Never has my signature and the above quote been so appropriate.
(no not the second part, that's a joke)

Despite your protestations it still stands that the current PLP config leads to dissent, whereas my config I would hope would lead to nigh on all members being happy AND still serving all that PLP was designed for in the first place.


It only leads to dissent because people never like getting busted, for anything. People who manage to stay within the track don't complain. People who get caught speeding cry "revenue raising!"; people who don't speed don't care.

I don't understand your aversion to track limits. A track is defined by it's limits, it's boundaries. How can you define a track and then not expect people to stay on it? That doesn't even make sense to me.

I thought about the "number of cuts at a given corner" idea, and that has some merits, but it's fairly complicated. I'd have to keep a number of warnings per corner - that's doable - but then how do you know how many warnings you've had at each corner? You'd never take in the number of warnings flashing up each time you drove through a corner, especially at the speed of the F2004. I think the best compromise is just to increase the number of warnings due to the longer race.

The worst offender went outside of track limits 24 times! Matthew only went outside once.
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: killagorilla on April 25, 2018, 11:19:54 AM
Strange, had plenty of excursions into the green, but no penalty
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: Wally on April 25, 2018, 11:33:49 AM
Strange, had plenty of excursions into the green, but no penalty
It also depends on your speed - i.e. below a certain speed is no cut, if you are off track for more than a certain time it's no cut, if you slow down while off track, it's no cut.
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: Matthew111 on April 25, 2018, 11:42:29 AM
Yeah i had no issues with cut tracks even in qually whrere i threw caution to the wind, to be honest if your getting cut tracks at imola on the exits your driving the track wrong. Imola you have to be very technically correct it rewards the slow in fast out style, the more you attack it the slower you go and your exits will be super tight and you will prob trigger a cut track on the astro turf. For instance the chicanes in s1 i just drop it in nice and smooth for the first half of the chicane hugging the inside so the 2nd phase is nice and straight and i can get on the power early and have plenty of room on the exits, the moment your exit feels cramped you have over cooked it.

Phil i probs have too much wing, need to meet somewhere in the middle
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: buellersdayoff on April 25, 2018, 12:10:44 PM
Do you have the results to see where we end up after the penalties. Majority of my cuts were pushing the limits to gain time, some though, were mistakes from taking the wrong line or when in battle with another car.
I've found in this sim racing that it can be disheartening when you give it all you got, get what seems to be a good time, then only to have an alien beat you by another couple of seconds. So you (I) push harder and make more mistakes lol
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: Phil.8 on April 25, 2018, 01:12:57 PM


Phil i probs have too much wing, need to meet somewhere in the middle

cool, thanks,  hope we get another drive in this soon, I need to put my learnings to the test :)
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: Matthew111 on April 25, 2018, 01:13:23 PM
As i said sometimes less is more just focus on making the exit neat, the pace you gain from a good corner exit extends to the whole straight. Also wally on the corner cut app i havent had the amount of cuts i have done or the green red light for a long time now lol
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: Matthew111 on April 25, 2018, 01:14:03 PM
Yeah phil its one of those cars where the setup is endless so heaps of time to be found i reckon
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: Phil.8 on April 25, 2018, 01:19:07 PM
yes, occasionally I would be up like half a second and then throw it away and found it hard to replicate often, I reckon there is probably a 1.16 on mediums with practice and a decent setup for anyone who can drive it well like you and kcender
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: Wally on April 25, 2018, 01:20:36 PM
Do you have the results to see where we end up after the penalties.
Yep, earlier up there is a red link to race results that show cuts, gap to leader etc.
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: Wally on April 25, 2018, 01:21:36 PM
Wally: regarding cuts that aren't cuts. I know that PLP has the green/red light to tell you if you are going to get a cut when you come back on but I usually don't see it. Maybe make it bigger or an option to make it bigger so you can't miss the red light. I don't even know where I got the cuts last night.
Take a look at the PLP app thread - there's a new version with the option to make the green/red square much bigger. By default now, it's the size of the entire app, but you can make it smaller.
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: Wally on April 25, 2018, 01:28:55 PM
Here's an interesting web site that has the real 2004 Imola pit stops.
https://www.formula1.com/en/results.html/2004/races/756/san-marino/pit-stop-summary.html (https://www.formula1.com/en/results.html/2004/races/756/san-marino/pit-stop-summary.html)

A lot of the field did 3 stops, over a 1hr 26 race. It would be interesting to see the tyre/fuel changes they did. Most of the pit stops are the same time, so they probably did fairly even fuel & tyre changes.
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: Bacchulum on April 25, 2018, 01:39:22 PM
3 stops was my plan, until I spun in the 1st turn, hit the wall and killed the engine. :'(
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: Joe on April 25, 2018, 05:26:39 PM
The worst offender went outside of track limits 24 times! Matthew only went outside once.

Haha I thought I was bad this race. I had to go to check the results to see who that was  :-X

I'm happy with how PLP works and we all know the rules. I did think it gave me cuts when only 2 wheels were off the track a few times but at the speed of this car I was probably way off track and didn't realize. Being a fun run I threw caution to the wind but in a league race I'd definitely have tried not to get any.
Title: Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
Post by: RussG on April 26, 2018, 08:56:44 AM
Wally: regarding cuts that aren't cuts. I know that PLP has the green/red light to tell you if you are going to get a cut when you come back on but I usually don't see it. Maybe make it bigger or an option to make it bigger so you can't miss the red light. I don't even know where I got the cuts last night.
Take a look at the PLP app thread - there's a new version with the option to make the green/red square much bigger. By default now, it's the size of the entire app, but you can make it smaller.
Good work!!!
Thanks Wally.
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