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Title: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Wally on June 26, 2019, 08:59:26 PM
Season 29 will feature 2.0 litre touring cars, using the XGN car dealer as a strategic handicapping system again. The cars are BOP'd to have a spread of performance capabilities, so that the slower drivers can once more afford to drive a faster car, based on your fastest race lap times.

The (mostly FWD) cars are easy to drive (but quickly?), harder to spin, easier to rub panels.

This time round, you will earn more money than last time and be able to afford faster cars quicker, however at the end of the round you will return your car and only keep your earnings from that round - i.e. you can't save up a profit. It's up to you whether you're going to aim to be among the faster drivers one round, and then have a slower car the next round, or take a more middle ground. End result - closer racing.

There will be a damage fee again when you return your car.

The cars
Citroen C-Elysee WTCC TC1
Mercedes A45 AMG TCR
BMW 320SI
Seat Leon TCR
Nissan Primera
Hyundai Veloster

The cars come from a variety of different mods, packaged into one download HERE (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1h0Zi39LLYdpsdBCXP3jsiYXXptFO_msi).

Update 28/6: Car pack updated to include extra AMG A45 skins (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1u7S_MEQG10vnQrh0wjRQn5iXpyuGkjct)
Update 29/6: Fix Nissan Primera minimum ride height (or download individual file in this post (http://xgn.com.au/index.php?topic=2610.msg50159#msg50159)).

The tracks
Brands Hatch Indy
Donington GP
Anglesey
Silverstone GP
Barbagallo
Croft
New Jersey Motorsport Park

Sign up
Sign up at the XGN Car Dealer (https://xgnsimracing.com.au/home). The season will start July 23 (after some ACC and AC fun runs/trial races).
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Bacchulum on June 27, 2019, 04:50:52 PM
The 600hp 4WD Rallycross car is the entry level car???

Truth is, in game it's only got 300hp and is at least 500kg overweight!!
I haven't looked, but is it the rallyx car?
I'm pretty sure Millen is also running Hyundai's BTCC program. :-\
I could be wrong
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Wally on June 27, 2019, 09:43:13 PM
The 600hp 4WD Rallycross car is the entry level car???

Truth is, in game it's only got 300hp and is at least 500kg overweight!!
I haven't looked, but is it the rallyx car?
I'm pretty sure Millen is also running Hyundai's BTCC program. :-\
I could be wrong
No idea. I just know it's the slowest car :)
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Wally on June 27, 2019, 10:32:59 PM
 I've repackaged the cars - I had a few errors. Please re-download the cars from the main post, or from HERE (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1h0Zi39LLYdpsdBCXP3jsiYXXptFO_msi). You now drop the contents folder from the zip file into ...\steamapps\common\assettocorsa (I was missing some fonts).
 
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Wally on June 27, 2019, 11:35:31 PM
Tyre Pressure EngineerIf you use this app, here's an updated IdealPressures.ini file for these cars which you can drop into steamapps\common\assettocorsa\apps\python\TyrePressureEngineer.
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Wally on June 27, 2019, 11:36:07 PM
And lastly, the practice server is up with the BOP'd cars at Laguna Seca.
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Dave O on June 28, 2019, 03:25:06 PM
Mercedes A45 AMG giving me a checksum error Wally? others all ok. Nice assortment of cars  :) Cheers Dave O.
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Wally on June 28, 2019, 04:47:23 PM
Mercedes A45 AMG giving me a checksum error Wally? others all ok. Nice assortment of cars  :) Cheers Dave O.
Did you download the car pack very early on, or the updated car pack that I modified?
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Dave O on June 28, 2019, 05:16:22 PM
Yeah latest download ;)
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Wally on June 28, 2019, 06:03:00 PM
Mismatch on the AMG for me too. Using latest download, you can't even join with the old download as you changed the Nissan's folder name.
I'll check it all out later. The Primera folder name was changed by the mod author on some latest version of the car; I originally had the old version's folder name.
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Jarmel on June 28, 2019, 07:31:03 PM
Hi  is anyone interested in forming a team for this series ? Help each other with set ups and finding more speed at the tracks spending a couple of hours a week on track together that sort of thing ??
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Wally on June 28, 2019, 08:46:06 PM
I've restarted the server - see how you go now with checksums.
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Wally on June 28, 2019, 08:55:20 PM
I finded something. Extra AMG A45 Skins (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1u7S_MEQG10vnQrh0wjRQn5iXpyuGkjct)
Thanks, I've added them to the car pack.
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Wally on June 28, 2019, 09:33:56 PM
“You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time”

These cars needed vetting before being offered up for a season.

Seat has a borked model LOD layout.
AMG has five! mirrors and two! cockpits and no LODs.
Nissan has borked setup.
Citroen sounds like it is rear engined.
Hyundai has no LODs.
BMW has no LODs.

And I haven't even gone looking for faults, this stuff is just evident as soon as I drive the cars.

Get me or someone else to fix this type of stuff before we begin a season. Please.
Maybe to your modder's eyes. I didn't notice a thing, myself. But if you want to fix anything that this is purely visual or audio related, and doesn't affect performance or physics at all to throw out my BOPping, feel free. We'll all benefit from it.
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Phil.8 on June 28, 2019, 09:38:27 PM
Yes must be hard for a modder not to see faults, I am a builder and even though I don't do it anymore really, I cant walk into a house without finding faults
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Phil.8 on June 28, 2019, 10:00:39 PM
while you are looking at the internal workings can you please tell me the tyre pressures :)
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Phil.8 on June 28, 2019, 10:23:56 PM
 ;D But I love to ask
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Dave O on June 28, 2019, 11:39:14 PM
All cars working now Wally... Merc goes well :)
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Phil.8 on June 28, 2019, 11:49:30 PM
Come on some one, more teams the better :) 

I am on most nights on one of the xgn servers doing a few laps if you or anyone ever wants to do a few laps and am happy to help where I can
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Phil.8 on June 29, 2019, 12:06:59 AM
setup cheat sheet

https://imgur.com/a/FFoN5vp
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on June 29, 2019, 03:26:45 AM
I am going to be away for a month during this season but should be able to make the first couple of races.

Am I right in seeing that for the first race we'll only be able to drive either the Primera or the Hyundai?
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Bacchulum on June 29, 2019, 06:40:37 AM
while you are looking at the internal workings can you please tell me the tyre pressures :)
Tyre Pressure EngineerIf you use this app, here's an updated IdealPressures.ini file for these cars which you can drop into steamapps\common\assettocorsa\apps\python\TyrePressureEngineer.
The quote doesn't have the attachment, but if you find the post Wally's done all the work. ;)
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Wally on June 29, 2019, 09:18:58 AM
I am going to be away for a month during this season but should be able to make the first couple of races.

Am I right in seeing that for the first race we'll only be able to drive either the Primera or the Hyundai?
Yes.
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Jarmel on June 29, 2019, 12:03:56 PM
Just took the Nissan for a spin and every time I change the set up it becomes invalid and cannot join the track, I have to exit the game to correct it. Also there is no actual setting for the suspension only the packers is this right ?
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Wally on June 29, 2019, 02:36:10 PM
Just took the Nissan for a spin and every time I change the set up it becomes invalid and cannot join the track, I have to exit the game to correct it. Also there is no actual setting for the suspension only the packers is this right ?
I have fixed it - you need to download the attached zip file and extract it into steamapps\common\assettocorsa\content\cars\pm3dm_nissan_primera_btcc (replacing the existing data.acd file). I have also updated the full car pack in the first post.
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on June 29, 2019, 03:52:57 PM
Hey y'all.
If anyone is up for a few fun races tonight I'll be on just after 9pm.

Also, here is my setup so far for my Hyundai Excel.
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Bacchulum on June 29, 2019, 03:57:50 PM
Haven't seen Guy's, but here's my set for comparison:
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on June 29, 2019, 05:12:47 PM
Just took the Nissan for a spin and every time I change the set up it becomes invalid and cannot join the track, I have to exit the game to correct it. Also there is no actual setting for the suspension only the packers is this right ?
I have fixed it - you need to download the attached zip file and extract it into steamapps\common\assettocorsa\content\cars\pm3dm_nissan_primera_btcc (replacing the existing data.acd file). I have also updated the full car pack in the first post.

I replaced it with that one but got a Checksum Failure when trying to enter the server.
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Wally on June 29, 2019, 05:34:16 PM
Just took the Nissan for a spin and every time I change the set up it becomes invalid and cannot join the track, I have to exit the game to correct it. Also there is no actual setting for the suspension only the packers is this right ?
I have fixed it - you need to download the attached zip file and extract it into steamapps\common\assettocorsa\content\cars\pm3dm_nissan_primera_btcc (replacing the existing data.acd file). I have also updated the full car pack in the first post.

I replaced it with that one but got a Checksum Failure when trying to enter the server.
Just stick to my downloads for now.
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on June 29, 2019, 05:38:26 PM
Just took the Nissan for a spin and every time I change the set up it becomes invalid and cannot join the track, I have to exit the game to correct it. Also there is no actual setting for the suspension only the packers is this right ?
I have fixed it - you need to download the attached zip file and extract it into steamapps\common\assettocorsa\content\cars\pm3dm_nissan_primera_btcc (replacing the existing data.acd file). I have also updated the full car pack in the first post.

I replaced it with that one but got a Checksum Failure when trying to enter the server.
Just stick to my downloads for now.

I downloaded the data file you posted for the Primera but getting a Checksum failure.
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Jarmel on June 29, 2019, 08:34:57 PM
same
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Bacchulum on June 29, 2019, 08:37:21 PM
Working for me. :-\ ???

EDIT

Until I tried the Nissan. :'(
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Wally on June 30, 2019, 08:08:02 AM
Working for me. :-\ ???

EDIT

Until I tried the Nissan. :'(
Sorry, I didn't restart the server. It's OK now.
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Wally on June 30, 2019, 10:57:51 AM
Haven't seen Guy's, but here's my set for comparison:
Best setup for me so far. This has really good lift-off turn in. Still 1.3 secs off GB's pace, of course.
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on June 30, 2019, 04:40:45 PM
Here is my Nissan Prima setup:

Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Bacchulum on June 30, 2019, 05:26:22 PM
 8)
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Dave O on June 30, 2019, 09:28:32 PM
Thx for the sets guys  ;) always appreciated  :)  Dave O.
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Freezer on July 05, 2019, 12:26:11 PM
Maki Engineering will be hoping to maintain enough funding to run these two Nissan Primera's for Season 29, driven by Mael and myself.  :)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ak4mce7tqxjvo40/Maki_Nissans.zip?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/ak4mce7tqxjvo40/Maki_Nissans.zip?dl=0)
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Wally on July 05, 2019, 01:34:09 PM
Maki Engineering will be hoping to maintain enough funding to run these two Nissan Primera's for Season 29, driven by Mael and myself.  :)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ak4mce7tqxjvo40/Maki_Nissans.zip?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/ak4mce7tqxjvo40/Maki_Nissans.zip?dl=0)
Drive slow enough, and you'll have enough funding for anything :)
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Freezer on July 05, 2019, 02:08:51 PM
Maki Engineering will be hoping to maintain enough funding to run these two Nissan Primera's for Season 29, driven by Mael and myself.  :)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ak4mce7tqxjvo40/Maki_Nissans.zip?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/ak4mce7tqxjvo40/Maki_Nissans.zip?dl=0)
Drive slow enough, and you'll have enough funding for anything :)
Don't think driving slow will be our goal . . . but maybe not hitting anything!  :) :)
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Bacchulum on July 05, 2019, 03:29:33 PM
. . but maybe not hitting anything!  :) :)
That's just not Touring car racing. ??? :P
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Mael on July 05, 2019, 03:42:47 PM
. . . but maybe not hitting anything!  :) :)

 :o   ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on July 05, 2019, 05:20:04 PM
How much money do you get per place?
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Freezer on July 05, 2019, 08:06:26 PM
How much money do you get per place?
Its all listed in the Car Dealer under Season _ Earnings.
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on July 06, 2019, 07:47:41 AM
How much money do you get per place?
Its all listed in the Car Dealer under Season _ Earnings.

Ah, good-o, thanks.

So, just to clarify as I haven't raced with the car dealer before, you get the winnings from each round + the trade in value of your car at the end of each round and you lose your winnings each round if you don't use them?
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Bacchulum on July 06, 2019, 07:59:34 AM
Honestly, I'm not sure anymore. :-[
I just look after each round and see what's available. :P
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Wally on July 06, 2019, 09:36:38 AM
How much money do you get per place?
Its all listed in the Car Dealer under Season _ Earnings.

Ah, good-o, thanks.

So, just to clarify as I haven't raced with the car dealer before, you get the winnings from each round + the trade in value of your car at the end of each round and you lose your winnings each round if you don't use them?
That's right. Thus time it's a little different to last time we used it. Before, you could save up your money, but it meant people could buy a really fast car after a few rounds and win too easily. This time, your money is just what you won on the last round + the base car.
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on July 06, 2019, 02:11:05 PM
OK.  Should 1st place also get $2800 then as this is the entry fee?
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Wally on July 06, 2019, 04:15:24 PM
OK.  Should 1st place also get $2800 then as this is the entry fee?
No, 1st place is actually penalised a little bit to force you into a slower car. You'll always be able to afford the base car. The aim is to mix up the winners a bit.
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Bacchulum on July 07, 2019, 06:23:35 PM
I'll be starting with this skin for the Nissan, see how long I can keep it.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1-DcbiPcLnxEGlmv0DQvH-UrE2JsXu_d6 (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1-DcbiPcLnxEGlmv0DQvH-UrE2JsXu_d6)
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Wally on July 09, 2019, 07:18:44 AM
OK.  Should 1st place also get $2800 then as this is the entry fee?
Oh and Guybrush, the money ranking goes not by finishing position but by fastest race lap times. We learnt this before - someone who is really fast in a car but bombs out of a race for whatever reason and finishes near the back shouldn't win a heap of money which makes them even faster.
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: bradc on August 12, 2019, 09:21:27 PM
I didn't race last week because I was too sick to get out of bed, which was annoying because I could have finally afforded the Merc, but when I checked the dealer tonight the ole bank account will only allow the bottom two cars....again! Whilst I understand you don't want people to save money wouldn't missing a round be enough of penalty without feeling the need to raid their piggy bank as well...?
Title: Re: Season 29 - Touring Car Racing
Post by: Wally on August 13, 2019, 07:42:58 AM
I didn't race last week because I was too sick to get out of bed, which was annoying because I could have finally afforded the Merc, but when I checked the dealer tonight the ole bank account will only allow the bottom two cars....again! Whilst I understand you don't want people to save money wouldn't missing a round be enough of penalty without feeling the need to raid their piggy bank as well...?
That's bad luck about being sick. I hope you feel better now.

I'll have to see if I can change the code to make an exception for people who didn't start, because that would be fairer. In the meantime, I've given you enough cash to buy the Merc.
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