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Round 3: Mugello Race Chat

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Offline Wally

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Round 3: Mugello Race Chat
« on: August 05, 2014, 11:15:21 PM »
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PITTING RULE
Because pitting mid-race stuffs up the race positions at the moment, if you have to pit mid-race, DO NOT REJOIN. It's race over.
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Re: Round 3: Mugello Race Chat
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2014, 05:47:51 PM »
Because pitting mid-race stuffs up the race positions at the moment, if you have to pit mid-race, DO NOT REJOIN. It's race over.

Did you guys see that as a bug last night Wally?

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Re: Round 3: Mugello Race Chat
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2014, 06:26:11 PM »
Yep. Race positions were screwed in race and in the server results, with a couple of guys who pitted for fuel and getting stuck jumping a whole heap of positions when they left the pits.
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Re: Round 3: Mugello Race Chat
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2014, 10:46:23 AM »
I have a setup in my dropbox if anyone wants to try.

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Re: Round 3: Mugello Race Chat
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2014, 12:09:56 PM »
I have a setup in my dropbox if anyone wants to try.
Thanks, I will give it a try some time. I see you're about a couple of seconds faster than me.
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Re: Round 3: Mugello Race Chat
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2014, 12:42:07 PM »
Thanks Guy, better than mine. ;)

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Re: Round 3: Mugello Race Chat
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2014, 01:41:16 PM »
There's one huge problem - no two - with that setup for me, Guy.
1) It's masochistically low :)
2) You can lose the rear by turning the wheel, easily.  And it's good until that point, but after - there's no saving it (not with my slow reflexes)

I'm testing Darren's set, too, and I'm consistently faster by a .5 with that.  But the issue here is, it's a much higher wing setup.  I'm torn :)
If I could dial out that behaviour from your set where the rear just lets go, I'd be ok (I can raise it easily for it to ride ok)

here's the set if anyone wants to try it


Either way I'm a good second off my old pb...the physics have changed I reckon. :)

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Re: Round 3: Mugello Race Chat
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2014, 04:35:59 PM »
Hopefully the tips I gave you helped a bit Bird.

I've also made a few extra changes to the setup which have helped.  The dropbox setup will have been updated.

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Re: Round 3: Mugello Race Chat
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2014, 07:23:53 PM »
Yeah, thanks Guy, the fact that I've been able to set my old pb is a good sign :)

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Re: Round 3: Mugello Race Chat
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2014, 11:30:07 PM »
There's one huge problem - no two - with that setup for me, Guy.
1) It's masochistically low :)
2) You can lose the rear by turning the wheel, easily.  And it's good until that point, but after - there's no saving it (not with my slow reflexes)

I'm testing Darren's set, too, and I'm consistently faster by a .5 with that.  But the issue here is, it's a much higher wing setup.  I'm torn :)
If I could dial out that behaviour from your set where the rear just lets go, I'd be ok (I can raise it easily for it to ride ok)

here's the set if anyone wants to try it


Either way I'm a good second off my old pb...the physics have changed I reckon. :)

Using GB's new setup I took about a second off my old PB, maybe old setups dont work so well anymore but I dont think the car is that much slower.

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Re: Round 3: Mugello Race Chat
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2014, 08:48:18 AM »
I can't drive GB's setup. I find it too easy to oversteer, and with the damn insta-death kerbs, I'm struggling to keep it on track. And when I try to hold it flat where GB does, I understeer off. I am on hards though... I'm looking for a race setup, not a hotlap setup.
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Re: Round 3: Mugello Race Chat
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2014, 09:46:06 AM »
You should be able to add one or two clicks of BOTH the front and rear wing to compensate for the lack of grip from the hard tyres Wally.

If it's over steering, decrease the rear spring stiffness, rear bump damper and also decrease the front wing or increase the rear wing.  Decreasing rear tyre pressure by a couple of psi should also help.

I stay off all the curbs if I can.
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Re: Round 3: Mugello Race Chat
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2014, 09:59:26 AM »
I found that one tick wing on both ends and *increasing* the tyre pressure by about 5 ticks helps heaps. (overall increase, still on softs)
Messing with the overseer of the setup just kills its speed.

I reckon adding more wing you need to raise the set, too.

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Re: Round 3: Mugello Race Chat
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2014, 10:11:09 AM »
I haven't turned a lap since Tuesday night so will have some catching up to do tonight... stuck at work :(

I'll check out GBs setup to get a base, but they tend to be too loose for me.

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Re: Round 3: Mugello Race Chat
« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2014, 10:11:26 AM »
I found that one tick wing on both ends and *increasing* the tyre pressure by about 5 ticks helps heaps. (overall increase, still on softs)
Messing with the overseer of the setup just kills its speed.

I reckon adding more wing you need to raise the set, too.

Yes, adjusting tyre pressure will depend on whether it's over steering due to high tyre temps or not.  If it's over steering on every corner then more than likely it's not only the temps.

 

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