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Title: Round 1: Imola Race Chat
Post by: Bird on June 09, 2014, 02:24:56 PM
As usual, here's a pre- and post-race chat thread.

Let me start off with a warning; check your pedals. :)
Why? 
How  much time do you think a spiking pedal is worth?   How about a spiking clutch?

I've been running slower and slower lately - including the other night together, I could not get near my pb let alone under it.  Today I've loaded it up and noticed I can't hit 204 on at the s/f line, which was usual before, only about 200...weird.  No matter how well I've tried.  Frustrated as hell, I've run a few laps, but could not get below 2.02.    Fark me that's nearly 3s off my pb (59.2 it was).

At this point I've gotten suspicious.  I've put the "pedals" app up, and noticed that there's a tiny bit of movement on the clutch input, Really small, but as it seems quite significant.   I've put a hefty deadzone on the pedal, went back...and within 5 laps produced a 58.6.

So all in all that little spiking has cost me a good 3 seconds indeed.  I've now hit 207km/h at the s/f line.  Amazing.

Other lesson; the basic Fanatec pedal isn't that much better than the old A1 set after all - it was spiking too, but it was doing it after long years of service.

Anyways, happy with the time.  Btw, Marty, you don't seem to be up there - or is it just me?  Look me up on steam (ysu) and add me as a friend, will you? 
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Glen73 on June 09, 2014, 02:47:46 PM
Did my accelerator pot yesterday, first drive today, 59.4 so yes, check pedal graph everyone.

Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Wally on June 09, 2014, 02:51:46 PM
One strange thing I've noticed is that when I race against the AI, with my same setup, I'm about 1.5 to 2 seconds off my PB pace, even when I'm on clear track all by myself. It's as if I just can't go as fast in race mode as I can in hotlap mode, with the same setup. I wonder of there's something slightly different in hotlap mode?
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Glen73 on June 09, 2014, 03:05:37 PM
One strange thing I've noticed is that when I race against the AI, with my same setup, I'm about 1.5 to 2 seconds off my PB pace, even when I'm on clear track all by myself. It's as if I just can't go as fast in race mode as I can in hotlap mode, with the same setup. I wonder of there's something slightly different in hotlap mode?

This is something I have noticed as well, on the server with the boys the other night I was 2 seconds off PB, I think it is not having the ghost car around....
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Bacchulum on June 09, 2014, 04:04:02 PM
I don't think there's tyre wear in hotlap mode, maybe this makes a difference.
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Wally on June 09, 2014, 04:59:18 PM
I don't think there's tyre wear in hotlap mode, maybe this makes a difference.
That would explain it.
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: marty on June 09, 2014, 06:59:54 PM
Thanks Bird will check mine as for some reason I can barely get within 2 sec of my PB atm too, just ran quite a long session in the practice server and needed a great lap to get under 2 min where I used to do average ones in the low 59's. I hope thats the fault either that or the more practice I do the slower I get lol.

Edit: Bird thanks so much I just noticed my clutch was dragging a little and throttle wasnt quite going 100% either, got back a second easily setting some dead zones. I think AC is killing my gear, and time to upgrade pedals then wheel later.

What do you guys think is a good set price not real issue I just want something good but not needing full pro setup so dont want to spend silly money that may be later on a wheel lol. Bird said the fanetech pedals are real good would these be the best bet or is there something else I should also consider thanks.
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Bird on June 09, 2014, 08:48:40 PM
err...I need to emphasise that what I as said is that they seem to be better than my old A1 set.  They have just proven to become a tad spikey after less than half a year.  That's not a good sign.   
Altho these are the absolute basic pedals.  Maybe the one up ($200 I think) are better.


p.s. happy to hear that I've helped others, too, with that warning! :)
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on June 09, 2014, 09:48:08 PM
I don't think there's tyre wear in hotlap mode, maybe this makes a difference.

There is but I think you can turn it off.

I did a bunch of laps on the softs in hotlap mode and was not getting anywhere near the grip of when i started the stint.
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: marty on June 09, 2014, 10:01:56 PM
I don't think there's tyre wear in hotlap mode, maybe this makes a difference.

There is but I think you can turn it off.

I did a bunch of laps on the softs in hotlap mode and was not getting anywhere near the grip of when i started the stint.

Tyre wear is on in any mode as long as you dont disable it, sadly there is also a bug that in mp whatever settings someone sets in SP mode is also what they get in MP. So if someone were to turn off wear and fuel this would also be the case in an mp session, I have no idea if the server sets temps either atm.
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Wally on June 09, 2014, 10:15:38 PM
At the moment, the server config is very basic and you can't really set much at all.
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on June 09, 2014, 10:22:59 PM
I think everyone is honest enough to keep tyre wear on aren't they?

On another note, I'm having an issue when I enter a server I seem to be dropping frames compared to SP.  I've reduced a few settings but there is still an issue.

The strange thing is that I have a 60Hz monitor so 60 FPS should be the max I see, but when my AC frame rate app drops from 100 to 70 the game seems to chug a lot and this only happens online.  Just wondering whether it could be some v-sync setting, or frame-rate limiter or something?
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Wally on June 09, 2014, 10:31:12 PM
I doubt it's any kind of visual setting. The game might be delayed a little by getting updates from the server online. The pracrtice server I set up is just a free, low spec server, but since we've raced on such low spec servers with up to 16 people, I doubt it's an issue when there's only a couple of guys on the server at once.
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Dick Forrest on June 10, 2014, 09:28:08 AM
Ok guys, being a newb I have a newb question about damage.
  I know it's not implemented yet and I'm looking forward to it. I really hope there is a awesome damage model with heaps of soft damage. Just adds to the realism.
 
  I want to know if the damage model will be 'real'? Like you tap a wall even slightly your race is over. Just like the real thing.
Like a lot of the 1st corner crashes would really take half the field out.
I expect the damage model to show no mercy.

How does it work in other SIMs?
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Wally on June 10, 2014, 09:34:07 AM
Ok guys, being a newb I have a newb question about damage.
  I know it's not implemented yet and I'm looking forward to it. I really hope there is a awesome damage model with heaps of soft damage. Just adds to the realism.
 
  I want to know if the damage model will be 'real'? Like you tap a wall even slightly your race is over. Just like the real thing.
Like a lot of the 1st corner crashes would really take half the field out.
I expect the damage model to show no mercy.

How does it work in other SIMs?

You can usually specify a damage percentage, so 0% is all damage off, 100% damage is race wrecking, 50% reduces the effects of damage etc. I have no idea how AC will do it though. I'm looking forward to damage too, especially mechanical damage if you abuse the gearbox or engine, for example, to force you to drive more realistically. The downside of damage though is that you can get punted into a wall by someone else and lose a wheel, for example, race over, just like the real thing. But who wants to import the painful parts of real life into a game? It adds to realism, sure, but you have to balance it with the fun factor.
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Dick Forrest on June 10, 2014, 09:45:58 AM
Ok guys, being a newb I have a newb question about damage.
  I know it's not implemented yet and I'm looking forward to it. I really hope there is a awesome damage model with heaps of soft damage. Just adds to the realism.
 
  I want to know if the damage model will be 'real'? Like you tap a wall even slightly your race is over. Just like the real thing.
Like a lot of the 1st corner crashes would really take half the field out.
I expect the damage model to show no mercy.


How does it work in other SIMs?

You can usually specify a damage percentage, so 0% is all damage off, 100% damage is race wrecking, 50% reduces the effects of damage etc. I have no idea how AC will do it though. I'm looking forward to damage too, especially mechanical damage if you abuse the gearbox or engine, for example, to force you to drive more realistically. The downside of damage though is that you can get punted into a wall by someone else and lose a wheel, for example, race over, just like the real thing. But who wants to import the painful parts of real life into a game? It adds to realism, sure, but you have to balance it with the fun factor.

Good point Wally. The fun factor would die very quickly if I wrecked every time I left the pits. Hell, even IN the pits sometimes.
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Wally on June 10, 2014, 10:49:01 PM
Round Results (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com.au/2014/06/season-1-round-1-bmw-me-e30-at-imola.html)
Season Standings (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com.au/2014/05/season-1-standings.html)

Congratulations to Guybrush and Darren on the race wins, and Darren on the round win.


Race 1 Podium
 
1) Guybrush Threepwood
2) Ysu
3) Darren Marsh

Race 2 Podium
 
1) Darren Marsh
2) Glen73
3) Wally

Round Points
 
Darren Marsh48
Ysu44
Glen7343
Guybrush Threepwood43
BJSRacer41
Wally41
Simone33
Bacchulum31
Rob31
Butters28
cramjet28
Dave O26
Vipergod24
Marty20
Flattop17
GWyar16
Jestronix16
Mopz14
Phil14
Freezer12
Rolz9
rooshooter9
SpeedFreak9
Dick Forrest4

Team Championship
1   TKO Racing   85
2   Projekt Rennesport   84
3   Achilles Heels   63
4   Team MRT   55
5   Aleph Null Ltd   48
6   Freezer   21
 
 
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on June 10, 2014, 11:02:59 PM
Well, seems like fuel was our major Achilles Heel tonight.  Maybe next season we can race solar cars Wally???

Was a good round.  Well done to everyone, but especially Darren, YSU, Glen and TKO Racing.  YSU was very kind in pushing me over the line when I ran out of fuel and sacrificed a few positions to help the walking wounded!  :D

Look forward to the next round.
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Gratulin on June 10, 2014, 11:04:07 PM
Looks like there was a full grid tonite. How will the reserving work if there is not a full field on the night?
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Wally on June 10, 2014, 11:14:54 PM
Looks like there was a full grid tonite. How will the reserving work if there is not a full field on the night?
If someone posts in the forums that they can't make the next round for whatever reason, then I will add the reserves in their place.
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Wally on June 10, 2014, 11:50:57 PM
My race report:

I had some good racing with Projekt Rennesport (Glen and BJS) tonight. In race 1 I was chasing Glen, being faster than him on entry into some corners but then slower on exit in others. I got alongside him on a few occasions, but didn't have the speed to pass. I tried to push the nose in on the inside at Tosa where I was quicker on entry, but it didn't work out so well with both of us coming off the track as a result. I finished race 1 in 6th behind Glen without any major dramas.

In race 2, team TKO Racing got the jump on Projekt Rennesport who went nowhere off the starting line - their team engineer gave them the gear set 2 I suppose, in a strategic ploy. Ysu and I took off in chase of Darren and Guybrush, and eventually Projekt Rennesport caught me, with BJS putting me under pressure. He eventually got a run on me into the top chicane, with me on the inside trying to outbrake him, but I locked my brakes and ended up spinning off the track at the chicane, letting the Projekt Rennesport train past. BJS had an incident late in the race to give me one spot back. Came home in 3rd only because Ysu stopped to push Guybrush across the line after he ran out of fuel.
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: marty on June 11, 2014, 08:30:22 AM
Well, seems like fuel was our major Achilles Heel tonight.  Maybe next season we can race solar cars Wally???

Was a good round.  Well done to everyone, but especially Darren, YSU, Glen and TKO Racing.  YSU was very kind in pushing me over the line when I ran out of fuel and sacrificed a few positions to help the walking wounded!  :D

Look forward to the next round.

Will send out emails to fuel companies to see if they want to sponsor us, may make us less stingy on virtual fuel though it cost you more then me in the 2nd race. Nice of Bird to give you a push at the end as your team mate was MIA lol.

Was good to see the driving standards at the back of the pack as I only spent 1 lap in the front group and the rest down the back both races. Managed to make some passes in race 1 and onky a minor contact my fault into the hairpin giving someone a small rub sorry. Everyone drove clean and no blocking which was good to see.

Thanks to my poor showing a get the dtm but ran a couple laps last night and its not as large a gap at the next track between them as at imola. There the gap was about 4 seconds but I was only a second and a bit quicker in my few laps at Silverstone.

Probably my best chance to beat Darren but still wont be as easy as I thought.  ;)
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Bird on June 11, 2014, 09:17:48 AM
Marty if you don't bag next week it can only be due to technical issues...;)

Great racing chaps, I'm really enjoying it - and the company too!

When I saw Guybrush sitting there like a dead duck I was really torn between an evil laugh while driving by, and helping, but helping won out in the end somehow... could be the stupid mistake that'll cost me later :)
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Bruce on June 11, 2014, 09:32:12 AM

Race 1... gone from memory.
Race 2. some great laps down the back with GW, Phil and roo and probably others. Hey Teamo... Dave, I didn't see you at all, only on the results list!  Lets hope the DTM drivers have a 'factor' added to their score to pull up our team average!
Had quite a few 'door to door' runs, a few 'hits' but all through incidents, the race section i saw was all very well behaved, made for an enjoyable night's racing. Thanks to all.
Not sure whether a reduced frame rate with the large client load made a difference, but but no matter how much i tried or how little, never got to my PB.
May just be 'choking' :)
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Dick Forrest on June 11, 2014, 09:45:09 AM
*shifted my post to here*

Thanks for the race guys! You bastards are so fast!
  I hope I wasn't in the way too often :)

The second race I was keeping it on track a lot better than the 1st race. I had a couple of small slides but no 180's. I think it was Darren who lapped me on about lap 7. Bastard! lol I retired to the pits then to stay out of the way and sulk in my helmet..
 would be nice to have a spectator mode in those cases.

I have a long, long way to go before I'm competitive! But I'm having great fun. So much more real and dynamic to be in a grid of RL people instead of AI. Every time out I learn something new. Really putting it into practice is what I have to work at. Practice practice practice.

I think my lack of mad-skillz is testament to Assetto Corsa as well as you guys. It goes to show that even with half descent gear (Logitech G27) A moron like myself just cant pick up this game and expect to be fast... Well that's the impression I'm getting.
And that's great, I can only improve surly and adds great immersion... and frustration. lol

Thanks Bird for the couple of follow laps at Silverstone Int. I wanted to keep practicing but my hunger for food was starting to overwhelm me lol. I think you where telling me both my feet are a too heavy. I need to be smooth.

I notice with the replay I can get up peoples pedals and gear selections etc. I didn't watch it for too long but noticed it was a bit jerky (no not you guys in the cars) so not sure if I will be able to get any genuine learning from it or just annoyed at the frame rates in the replay.

And all the computer dramas people where having. I was pretty smooth all night and I'm on an old quad core Q6600 2.4. Graphics is a bit newer GTX660Ti. I had all the pretty stuff turned off and capped at 60fps. It still looked half descent. I only dropped frames on the starting line with the grid full. Or if i alt-tabbed / clicked on my second screen. That didn't happen before last patch.

Thanks again guys!
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Wally on June 11, 2014, 10:10:50 AM
When I saw Guybrush sitting there like a dead duck I was really torn between an evil laugh while driving by, and helping, but helping won out in the end somehow... could be the stupid mistake that'll cost me later :)

You could be banking karma points. Someone might do the same for you now.
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: cramjet on June 11, 2014, 10:27:14 AM
Yeah I had a lot of fun in the pack. Race 1 I had a good biff with Marty and a few others - decided to let him through...such pace. I found my tyres degraded pretty badly but I managed to hold on for 9th after a few people in front ran off.

Race 2 I lost all sound as soon as I entered the car (with 10 seconds before race start - no time to fix it). Made for some interesting moments but it taught me to feel the car through the wheel a bit better. I had a spin on the final corner towards the end of the race - had a strange sensation like I was being pushed but nobody was around. The back just stepped out and kept on going - having no sound definitely didn't help.

Overall I'm quite happy with my position, if I could qualify as well as I practice I would have started a bit further up but that's just part of the game!
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Simone on June 11, 2014, 11:09:28 AM
A fun hour racing you guys,we are still at the first few skirmishes but I promise the more we get to know each other the harder the racing.

2 disaster starts denied me the chance of a podium,gottta fix that first gear...(AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA)but overl all I have to say I had great fun apart for the carnage in the second race >:..(.guys!...just this,,,from my experience.The first 2 laps are crucial for a fun race,its important not to risk too much,thx guys 8))
...infact many races are lost at the first corner.

My pc does not like the online races with 20 ppl,and  last night proved that,,,stuttering ,poor frame rates and the occasional artefact did not help a nice visual experience,,But I fought hard and tried to catch up wally and glen73 but they were very consistent  and thee was nothing I could do.

Second race,,,forget it!

Good fun guys ,,and I am looking forward next week ;D     off course ..congratulations to the podiums :o
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Glen73 on June 11, 2014, 11:19:03 AM
First off apologies for my headlights, I didn't realise I had them double mapped.

Race one fantastic fun with Wally, for some reason I decided for most of the race to take a very cautious approach into turn one, I only planned to do that on lap one but lap after lap I braked way to early forgetting how deep you can go losing confidence each time, not wanting to brake to late and losing positions, but none the less it provided some great racing with Wally. He owned the first couple of combinations of turns and I could gather that back later through some different parts of the track. Overall it was a very good race.

Race two was again a blast with our team riding the back of Team TKO for a good portion of the race

(http://i.imgur.com/WkusUU7l.png)
All aboard the Bird Express


I found it a hard track to over take, you really needed to set something up over a lap or two so BJS did the best he could by maintaining maximum pressure on Wally to try and force an error, Wally did an outstanding job but eventually succumbed to a braking error, which proved fruitful for myself as well. Late in the race with his rears pretty much shot, BJS handed back his position to Wally with a braking error.

(http://i.imgur.com/PpuNbCRl.png)
The sympathy of pit men waving there boards

Well done to the Winners of Round one Race one of Assetto Corsa @ XGN, 24 drivers plus reserves wanting a run, is a great sign.

 
Whisper button worked a treat as there was some swapping of info on where some particular drivers were braking late and early, also made it far easier to go past each other. Overall a good haul of points for our team!
 (http://i.imgur.com/KPSVbPll.png)
Projekt Rennesport
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Wally on June 11, 2014, 11:34:54 AM
Nice screenies!
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Bird on June 11, 2014, 11:37:12 AM
It was a mighty chase...:)
I think overtaking is going to be a biatch until we get drafting.
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Wally on June 11, 2014, 12:41:39 PM
Little video of some of the action between TKO Racing (black) and Projekt Rennesport (white). It was great (and surprising) how close the two teams were in both races. I'm looking forward to the competition between the teams.

[youtube]epO9ity50QE[/youtube]
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: marty on June 11, 2014, 02:22:58 PM
The second race I was keeping it on track a lot better than the 1st race. I had a couple of small slides but no 180's. I think it was Darren who lapped me on about lap 7. Bastard! lol I retired to the pits then to stay out of the way and sulk in my helmet..
 would be nice to have a spectator mode in those cases.

Sorry Dick that likely wasnt Darren but me as I started about 1 minute late and caught the first few cars around lap 7. Darren was crazy fast though but even still no need to retire even if getting lapped. Simply make it clear which side your taking and stay there to let the leaders through generally outside line down a straight and slow maybe a bit sooner showing your giving room is appreciated by those lapping.

I think my computer troubles were just my PSU starting to give up the ghost and at high loads it couldnt maintain the power needed for my setup. It has been making some odd noises and this may also have been causing some of the audio issues from my mic possibly.

I hope to sort these out during the week but Im getting some good practice at reverse grid racing, can be quite fun especially if others dont drive overly defensive then trying to fight the way through the pack. I didnt see anyone driving too defensively and all were fair once a clean move was made.

In race one my progress stopped once I reached the top 10 and for one lap at least the guys infront cant remember who, were side by side most of the lap which was pretty cool to see and no contact I think. Thats when me and cramjet had a good battle for a couple laps too as we both tried to get past the guys infront.

Look forward to the rest of the season and hope achilles heel can get some points of the teams ahead atm, will be quite interesting with the varied cars and especially the next round. Maybe we need to give Darren the regular e30 for the rest of the season hed still f8nd a way to win lol.
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Bird on June 11, 2014, 02:42:52 PM
I'm pretty sure Darren will use the Group A all season...by definition of being in the top half on the results (and it's the overall results if I'm correct)
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Dick Forrest on June 11, 2014, 02:48:36 PM
The second race I was keeping it on track a lot better than the 1st race. I had a couple of small slides but no 180's. I think it was Darren who lapped me on about lap 7. Bastard! lol I retired to the pits then to stay out of the way and sulk in my helmet..
 would be nice to have a spectator mode in those cases.

Sorry Dick that likely wasnt Darren but me as I started about 1 minute late and caught the first few cars around lap 7. Darren was crazy fast though but even still no need to retire even if getting lapped. Simply make it clear which side your taking and stay there to let the leaders through generally outside line down a straight and slow maybe a bit sooner showing your giving room is appreciated by those lapping.

I think my computer troubles were just my PSU starting to give up the ghost and at high loads it couldnt maintain the power needed for my setup. It has been making some odd noises and this may also have been causing some of the audio issues from my mic possibly.

I hope to sort these out during the week but Im getting some good practice at reverse grid racing, can be quite fun especially if others dont drive overly defensive then trying to fight the way through the pack. I didnt see anyone driving too defensively and all were fair once a clean move was made.

In race one my progress stopped once I reached the top 10 and for one lap at least the guys infront cant remember who, were side by side most of the lap which was pretty cool to see and no contact I think. Thats when me and cramjet had a good battle for a couple laps too as we both tried to get past the guys infront.

Look forward to the rest of the season and hope achilles heel can get some points of the teams ahead atm, will be quite interesting with the varied cars and especially the next round. Maybe we need to give Darren the regular e30 for the rest of the season hed still f8nd a way to win lol.

Hi Marty,
It was Darren, I think you passed me a 1 or 2 laps before Darren. I knew you had started late and there was no-one chasing you either.
i have to say Marty, I enjoy your dead-pan humour. Maybe you aren't even trying to be funny. For example I found you asking about if your mic was annoying to Bird quite humorous.
 Actually you are all bunch of characters it seems.
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: DarrenM on June 11, 2014, 02:59:45 PM
Was a bit annoyed with race 1 but it ended up being good fun. I think I'd hit escape to go back to pits when the session ended in the background or something so it went back to pits instead of the grid. Since I didn't have to worry about the start I left softs and the qualifying gears on which helped me overtake. Everyone was nice and clean which is always good to see.

Second race I took softs again and just tried to drive clean and steady to make sure they didn't go off at the end like they did in race 1 so it was pretty uneventful.

I expect Marty to smash everyone next week. We Group A drivers will just have to try harder :)


You can use shortcuts to switch cars in multiplayer if you want to watch other people,  then F1 I think it is to cycle views. Don't know if you can get a tv cam that way. I think you have to be in car, so you could just sit in the pits and do it.

CTRL+1: switch to previous opponent car
CTRL+3: switch to next opponent car
CTRL+2: switch to player car
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Glen73 on June 11, 2014, 03:05:20 PM
My pc does not like the online races with 20 ppl,and  last night proved that,,,stuttering ,poor frame rates and the occasional artefact did not help a nice visual experience,,

It seems 2 gig vm is really needed for games of today, I recently got a 770 and if your going to stay with single screen gaming then this is pretty good. 780 is still a bit pricey for me..... or you could stay with Ati as the 290 is pretty decent card/good value for money or again step up to a 290X but it all starts costing then.
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: BJSRacer on June 11, 2014, 10:58:24 PM
Thanks for a great night last night guys, 2 good races. Good to see so many names on track again.

Thank you to our race engineer, Glen, setup worked very well.

I'm looking forward to the rest of the season.

BJ
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Bird on June 12, 2014, 09:11:44 AM
....
I notice with the replay I can get up peoples pedals and gear selections etc. I didn't watch it for too long but noticed it was a bit jerky (no not you guys in the cars) so not sure if I will be able to get any genuine learning from it or just annoyed at the frame rates in the replay.

I don't think we've answered this at all.

You can only get smooth replay for the car that the replay is made from.   The rest will be recorded with their lag included (since it's recorded on client side, you can't help this).  So for educational purposes you really need to acquire the replay for the car you want to study.
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: DarrenM on June 12, 2014, 09:22:36 AM
Found out last night if you go to the chat window when out of car you can just click on the driver name in the list to watch them. No need to dick about with the shortcuts.
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Dick Forrest on June 12, 2014, 09:29:36 AM
That's great guys.
  I'll have to try that from the pits next time.
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Wally on June 14, 2014, 05:10:25 PM
I'm updating my netKar log parser to work with the unstructured junk that the AC server spits out, and making good progress.

Here's the latest results output: http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com.au/2014/06/season-1-round-1-bmw-me-e30-at-imola.html

For those that haven't seen it before, you can click on a racer name to expand more details.
"Cons" is the consistency of your lap times - the smaller the number, the more consistent you are.

I'll be able to refine it as more info gets output by the server.
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: BJSRacer on June 14, 2014, 05:25:09 PM
Great stuff Wally.
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Post by: Glen73 on June 14, 2014, 05:28:30 PM
Thanks Wally, shall be interesting comparing consistency. ..
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Bacchulum on June 14, 2014, 05:53:41 PM
Consistency is King, something I've lost in the nK-AC switch. :(
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Wally on June 14, 2014, 06:49:29 PM
Consistency is King, something I've lost in the nK-AC switch. :(
Yeah, interesting isn't it. When I look at my Silverstone practice  lap times, they're all over the place. I wonder if that shows more complexity to AC, with a more dynamic tire model.
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Bacchulum on June 14, 2014, 06:56:03 PM
The tyre model is certainly more dynamic and sophisticated than nKPro.

And Wally, I don't know if the race server is the same but the practice server still has Flattop in my skin (eeewwww :o).
He has his own now. :P
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Wally on June 14, 2014, 07:36:06 PM
The tyre model is certainly more dynamic and sophisticated than nKPro.

And Wally, I don't know if the race server is the same but the practice server still has Flattop in my skin (eeewwww :o ).
He has his own now. :P
Fixed!
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Wally on June 14, 2014, 10:55:38 PM
And more... now includes the "gap to leader", "gap to previous car" and "gap to next car" stats for each lap.

http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com.au/2014/06/season-1-round-1-bmw-me-e30-at-imola.html

After each race, there are some stats:

HUNTER is the guy who was closest to someone's rear bumper over the whole race.
HUNTED is the guy who had someone closest to their rear bumper over the whole race.
BUSIEST is the guy who had cars closest front and back over the whole race.
LONELIEST is the opposite of BUSIEST. The guy who was furthest from other cars.

There are also race charts which show each racer's relative position to the leader, lap by lap. You can click on the graphs to expand them. The green squares are each racer's fastest lap.
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Bird on June 14, 2014, 10:58:11 PM
Great job mate!  Have a beer now, you've worked enough for the weekend :)
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Post by: marty on June 14, 2014, 11:25:58 PM
Awesome work Wally love all the race info, mine doesnt look very good but I hope to improve that in the next few races.
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Bacchulum on June 14, 2014, 11:29:02 PM
My anxiety at change has been releaved, thanks Wally. :-*
And listen to Bird, have a beer. ;)
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Wally on June 14, 2014, 11:45:00 PM
Its pretty much finished, for now. Got that bee out of my bonnet ;)
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: rob on June 15, 2014, 07:40:42 AM
As usual Wally, thanks for all the hard work you put into this league. It's much appreciated mate.

rob
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Glen73 on June 15, 2014, 08:21:25 AM
We are very lucky indeed.
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Wally on June 15, 2014, 08:40:03 AM
Thanks guys. I wouldn't do it if I didn't enjoy it :)
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Post by: Bruce on June 15, 2014, 08:52:47 AM
Its pretty much finished, for now. Got that bee out of my bonnet ;)
what happened to "got the beer out my fridge " ?
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Bruce on June 15, 2014, 08:54:14 AM
Nice work Wally!

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Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Wally on June 15, 2014, 11:43:47 AM
Its pretty much finished, for now. Got that bee out of my bonnet ;)
what happened to "got the beer out my fridge " ?
I'd already had a few wines and watched a movie before finishing off the graph stuff :)
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: Dick Forrest on June 15, 2014, 03:02:01 PM
That's totally awesome Wally!

Geez that Dick guy is totally useless....

how embarrassing. well, I think there was some vodka bottles and McDonald's wrappers getting hung up under my peddles. And a dog ran out in front of me on my fastest lap...
It was a tough race.
Title: Re: Season 1 Race 1 chat
Post by: BJSRacer on June 15, 2014, 08:56:28 PM
And more... now includes the "gap to leader", "gap to previous car" and "gap to next car" stats for each lap.

http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com.au/2014/06/season-1-round-1-bmw-me-e30-at-imola.html

After each race, there are some stats:

HUNTER is the guy who was closest to someone's rear bumper over the whole race.
HUNTED is the guy who had someone closest to their rear bumper over the whole race.
BUSIEST is the guy who had cars closest front and back over the whole race.
LONELIEST is the opposite of BUSIEST. The guy who was furthest from other cars.

There are also race charts which show each racer's relative position to the leader, lap by lap. You can click on the graphs to expand them. The green squares are each racer's fastest lap.

Brilliant work Wally, awesome!!
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