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Title: S21R1: Donington Park GP Post-Race
Post by: Wally on February 27, 2018, 06:13:55 PM
RACE 1 RESULTS (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2018/02/s21r1-ferrari-599xx-evo-at-donington.html)
RACE 2 RESULTS (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2018/02/s21r1-ferrari-599xx-evo-at-donington_27.html)
SEASON STANDINGS (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2018/02/s21-standings.html)
SEASON STATS (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nu52lWM6_TIRBEGCTF32BxLe8mobfsCFpd_wOeuxpXI/edit?usp=sharing)

Round Points
Grat   200
Phil.8   176
Matthew111   169
Kcender87   138
Jeremy   129
Freezer   121
Shayne   105
Mael   98
RussG   97
Gratulin   45
ab156   36
buellersdayoff   35
Wally   26
Keith   22
Dave O   15
Bacchulum   13
MonstaH   13
Phil   13
Joe   0

Congratulations to Phil.8 on pole, and Grat on the race and overall round wins.

Penalties
Race 1 - None
Race 2 - None
Gratulin did come in a bit hard on ab156 on the final turn, but not too much damage was done to ab156 and he got the spot back by the next corner, so no penalty.

Season Podium
1. Grat, 200 pts
2. Phil.8, 176
3. Matthew.111, 169

Title: Re: S21R1: Donington Park GP Post-Race
Post by: Shameless_1 on February 27, 2018, 07:26:59 PM
and im out already.. just had to take some pills.. sorry. enjoy guys
Title: Re: S21R1: Donington Park GP Post-Race
Post by: Joe on February 27, 2018, 10:02:38 PM
First race started great and was having a good run at the back of a pack then strange issues with cars floating off and ping spike. Pulled over and it resolved itself so carried on going from 5th to 15th, then a few laps later it did it again and I'm in the wall. Rebooted everything.

Second race started in last due to race 1 woes but made up several places. Going quite well and all my monitors turn off and back on again. At that point i'm in the wall the car is a wreck. Seemed like a totally different issue to race one. Just one of those night I guess...

Checked event logs and whether window update was doing anything and nothing so no idea.
Title: Re: S21R1: Donington Park GP Post-Race
Post by: Wally on February 27, 2018, 10:39:36 PM
Results are up. Well done to Grat on the round win.
Title: Re: S21R1: Donington Park GP Post-Race
Post by: Freezer on February 27, 2018, 10:40:23 PM
Fairly respectable night for me.  The main problem all night was my team mate Mael.  He's the last person I want to race with (no offence) cause we are constantly
worried about contact (or at least I am).  He followed me most of the first race and we had a small contact and then wound up with each other again in the second.
I think we were pretty even on times but i kept wondering whether to let him by (multi21).

Also, apologies to those around me at the start of race 2.  My wheel reset in to hyper mode at race start and I was trying to reach down and hit the reset button
whilst on cold tyres in the pack.  I was a bit all over the place and had to give away a few spots to fix it.
Title: Re: S21R1: Donington Park GP Post-Race
Post by: Wally on February 27, 2018, 10:56:22 PM
Not a super opening round for me. I was a bit off the pace anyway, qualifying 13 with a little more pace on the softs. In the first race, I unfortunately got turned around by Phil who came into the hairpin too hot, and that cost a few places all the way down to 17th. Then I was caught out by being faster than Dave O down the hill, and when he ran wide at the bottom of the hill, I tried to go right to make a pass but ended up oversteering off the track into the barrier, putting me last. I managed to get back to 15th, but that was worse than I started and not a great result.

Race 2, after watching the replay, I saw what happened with Bueller. Gratulin bumped Bueller into me at the hairpin, and sent Bueller off the track. I wasn't sure what had happened, so I slowed to redress Bueller just in case, but needlessly let 3 cars past. The end of the race was quite intense, some good battling with Bueller and Bacchulum, and between Keith and Phil on degrading tyres. Keith ran wide on the final turn and I managed to sneak past. Came home in 11th, moving up 4, so that was better.
Title: Re: S21R1: Donington Park GP Post-Race
Post by: Mael on February 27, 2018, 11:44:51 PM
Fun racing, only problem was it was my team mate's rear wing I was looking at the whole night!

Just couldn't get my braking into the slow corners right in the first race, especially into the second last hairpin. Apologies to Russ for nearly taking him out, good awareness Russ! And Freezer for the same mistake a few laps later, cost us a lot of positions.  :(  Race two was better, even managed to make a pass or two on Freezer, unfortunately I kept donating the position back to him.

Looks like the midfield battles are going to be good this season.
Title: Re: S21R1: Donington Park GP Post-Race
Post by: buellersdayoff on February 28, 2018, 10:25:08 AM
Not a super opening round for me. I was a bit off the pace anyway, qualifying 13 with a little more pace on the softs. In the first race, I unfortunately got turned around by Phil who came into the hairpin too hot, and that cost a few places all the way down to 17th. Then I was caught out by being faster than Dave O down the hill, and when he ran wide at the bottom of the hill, I tried to go right to make a pass but ended up oversteering off the track into the barrier, putting me last. I managed to get back to 15th, but that was worse than I started and not a great result.

Race 2, after watching the replay, I saw what happened with Bueller. Gratulin bumped Bueller into me at the hairpin, and sent Bueller off the track. I wasn't sure what had happened, so I slowed to redress Bueller just in case, but needlessly let 3 cars past. The end of the race was quite intense, some good battling with Bueller and Bacchulum, and between Keith and Phil on degrading tyres. Keith ran wide on the final turn and I managed to sneak past. Came home in 11th, moving up 4, so that was better.
Fun racing, only problem was it was my team mate's rear wing I was looking at the whole night!

Just couldn't get my braking into the slow corners right in the first race, especially into the second last hairpin. Apologies to Russ for nearly taking him out, good awareness Russ! And Freezer for the same mistake a few laps later, cost us a lot of positions.  :(  Race two was better, even managed to make a pass or two on Freezer, unfortunately I kept donating the position back to him.

Looks like the midfield battles are going to be good this season.
Yeah good fun mid field battles! Wally I don't think you needed to redress for that one, gratulin came across at me after he ran wide, all good though it's just racing. These cars though, for me, I can't seem to squeeze that extra bit out of them. Maybe, like usual, towards the end of the season lol.
Also, being back at work I'll only be able to do every second round, thanks guys enjoying it!
Title: Re: S21R1: Donington Park GP Post-Race
Post by: Gratulin on February 28, 2018, 01:17:16 PM
Yeah good fun mid field battles! Wally I don't think you needed to redress for that one, gratulin came across at me after he ran wide, all good though it's just racing. These cars though, for me, I can't seem to squeeze that extra bit out of them. Maybe, like usual, towards the end of the season lol.
Also, being back at work I'll only be able to do every second round, thanks guys enjoying it!
I think I was trying to leave room but also trying to defend a bit. When I accelerated the car seemed to turn into the centre of the corner hitting Bueller. I also got Bueller, I think it was him, in Race 1. Maybe a good idea to stay clear of me in future Bueller?
Title: Re: S21R1: Donington Park GP Post-Race
Post by: buellersdayoff on February 28, 2018, 01:35:32 PM
Yeah good fun mid field battles! Wally I don't think you needed to redress for that one, gratulin came across at me after he ran wide, all good though it's just racing. These cars though, for me, I can't seem to squeeze that extra bit out of them. Maybe, like usual, towards the end of the season lol.
Also, being back at work I'll only be able to do every second round, thanks guys enjoying it!
I think I was trying to leave room but also trying to defend a bit. When I accelerated the car seemed to turn into the centre of the corner hitting Bueller. I also got Bueller, I think it was him, in Race 1. Maybe a good idea to stay clear of me in future Bueller?
It's all good, racing incident. Both incidents were very similar, in fairness I thought you would have held your line (it's what my crew chief/spotter told me to do lol) not swerve to block with a car next to you. Like I said no big deal I've made some mistakes here too.
Good fun, I noticed the difference in tyres, I ran with soft even though they rooted by the end they were still good under heavy braking. Didn't even bother trying mediums, since last time I switched mid session (F1's) my lap times were killed and I pretty much got left behind lol

Edit: swerve to block, is a bit harsh. I enjoy racing with all you guys and hope to keep it that way...hope I'm not coming across as arrogant...the internet lol
Title: Re: S21R1: Donington Park GP Post-Race
Post by: Shayne on February 28, 2018, 01:58:11 PM
Was quite an enjoyable night, I was a bit tired last night after work and had a bit of a nap when I got home, maybe I was still half asleep during the races since I did get involved in a couple crashes. Sorry ab for the rear ender in race 1, I just couldn't pull up in time. Luckily it was straight on and no one went off track. Also sorry to RussG for the spin, we discussed this after the race but I thought I would throw out another apology anyways.

I don't know how you guys were managing to run the softs for so long. I was feeling that the mediums were quite worn by the end of it and during qualifying I had melted the softs so they were certainly a no go during the race.

I think I had the back end hanging out a bit more then most people, which is probably why my tires were feeling quite old by the end of the races. I had played with the front arb during practice and found a solution to the snap oversteer I was getting originally in this car. Also because of the changes to the arb, I was able to lower the traction control, I was trying to get rid of as much as possible as I felt there was time to gain in the last two corners since the traction control was getting in the way of my corner exits. Also, having next to no traction control made for some exciting driving :D
Title: Re: S21R1: Donington Park GP Post-Race
Post by: Gratulin on February 28, 2018, 02:54:47 PM
Yeah good fun mid field battles! Wally I don't think you needed to redress for that one, gratulin came across at me after he ran wide, all good though it's just racing. These cars though, for me, I can't seem to squeeze that extra bit out of them. Maybe, like usual, towards the end of the season lol.
Also, being back at work I'll only be able to do every second round, thanks guys enjoying it!
I think I was trying to leave room but also trying to defend a bit. When I accelerated the car seemed to turn into the centre of the corner hitting Bueller. I also got Bueller, I think it was him, in Race 1. Maybe a good idea to stay clear of me in future Bueller?
It's all good, racing incident. Both incidents were very similar, in fairness I thought you would have held your line (it's what my crew chief/spotter told me to do lol) not swerve to block with a car next to you. Like I said no big deal I've made some mistakes here too.
Good fun, I noticed the difference in tyres, I ran with soft even though they rooted by the end they were still good under heavy braking. Didn't even bother trying mediums, since last time I switched mid session (F1's) my lap times were killed and I pretty much got left behind lol

Edit: swerve to block, is a bit harsh. I enjoy racing with all you guys and hope to keep it that way...hope I'm not coming across as arrogant...the internet lol
Not arrogant at all and it was a swerve (unintentional)!! I meant to move over a little to block “somewhat” but well before you were beside me. Totally misjudged your acceleration out of the last corner. I think my normal line is across the track down that straight and adding a “little move” turned it into a swerve.
Title: Re: S21R1: Donington Park GP Post-Race
Post by: buellersdayoff on February 28, 2018, 04:48:40 PM
Yeah good fun mid field battles! Wally I don't think you needed to redress for that one, gratulin came across at me after he ran wide, all good though it's just racing. These cars though, for me, I can't seem to squeeze that extra bit out of them. Maybe, like usual, towards the end of the season lol.
Also, being back at work I'll only be able to do every second round, thanks guys enjoying it!
I think I was trying to leave room but also trying to defend a bit. When I accelerated the car seemed to turn into the centre of the corner hitting Bueller. I also got Bueller, I think it was him, in Race 1. Maybe a good idea to stay clear of me in future Bueller?
It's all good, racing incident. Both incidents were very similar, in fairness I thought you would have held your line (it's what my crew chief/spotter told me to do lol) not swerve to block with a car next to you. Like I said no big deal I've made some mistakes here too.
Good fun, I noticed the difference in tyres, I ran with soft even though they rooted by the end they were still good under heavy braking. Didn't even bother trying mediums, since last time I switched mid session (F1's) my lap times were killed and I pretty much got left behind lol

Edit: swerve to block, is a bit harsh. I enjoy racing with all you guys and hope to keep it that way...hope I'm not coming across as arrogant...the internet lol
Not arrogant at all and it was a swerve (unintentional)!! I meant to move over a little to block “somewhat” but well before you were beside me. Totally misjudged your acceleration out of the last corner. I think my normal line is across the track down that straight and adding a “little move” turned it into a swerve.
I found during the race that if I braked late and deep/wide I could get a good run out of the last two corners and that's also where the soft tyres came in handy, since the fronts weren't completely wrecked near the end of the race, struggled to keep up with everyone through the rest of the circuit 3/4 in
Title: Re: S21R1: Donington Park GP Post-Race
Post by: Matthew111 on February 28, 2018, 05:19:22 PM
Car was a bit hard to drive off the racing line couldnt really pull off any passes, Got a good start in race 1 and slotted in behind grat where i stayed until the last lap where i got a massive lag spike sending me off the road relegating me to 3rd :( was really hard to capitalise on any little mistakes grat did as the front end wouldnt stick if it was off line for a pass lol and i just didnt have the drive grat had out of turns.

Race 2 was much of the same but behind phil, stayed 3rd till the end this time no lag lol

Title: Re: S21R1: Donington Park GP Post-Race
Post by: Phil.8 on February 28, 2018, 05:38:12 PM
Yes I felt bad for you after leading the whole race to see you go off like that
Title: Re: S21R1: Donington Park GP Post-Race
Post by: grat on February 28, 2018, 06:05:04 PM
Matthew: I saw you in my mirror going straight out of that corner and could not understand why, as I did not think we were pushing too hard on that last lap... now I know why. Sorry to hear that.

Race 1: It was quite fun until the last lap spike. The start was a bit confusing with Phil going straight, but then we all settled down. You (Matthew) were much faster through McLean's and the chicane, but I seemed to have much more traction out of the two hairpins and the first corner, so every lap you were catching me and then losing me. There was once I made a really big mistake at Coppice and you had a chance, but I took the inside line to the chicane and, since we slowed down more for it, I was again away when traction counted. It would be interesting to see if it was all down to setup or if there is actually something different we were doing. From the replays, it looks like I was exiting the tight corners a bit straighter, so maybe there was something there... but then again, why?

Race 2: it was in general a much less eventful race, BUT! on lap 3 I had a mega-huge moment entering McLean's. I basically started to lose it through the fast left-hand bend... but I had to somehow also brake for McLean's... well, I have no idea how it remained (mostly) on the road. Much respect to Phil for avoiding the crash there! I think I was super-lucky and I would probably say it was an undeserved win.
Title: Re: S21R1: Donington Park GP Post-Race
Post by: Matthew111 on February 28, 2018, 06:40:50 PM
Yeah it was hard to pull the move off as i tried to get you off line into the chicane to get the run on the exit but i couldnt manoeuvre the car properly just lacks that grip you think it would have lol, but yeah the corner exit traction was a killer because every time i felt i got a good run into a turn i lost it all on the exit lol, i felt maybe i had the tc too high at 6 and it was cutting power or maybe too high rear camber i dunno ill have to look into it, it was mainly on the tight hairpins.
Title: Re: S21R1: Donington Park GP Post-Race
Post by: grat on February 28, 2018, 06:52:21 PM
Yeah it was hard to pull the move off as i tried to get you off line into the chicane to get the run on the exit but i couldnt manoeuvre the car properly just lacks that grip you think it would have lol, but yeah the corner exit traction was a killer because every time i felt i got a good run into a turn i lost it all on the exit lol, i felt maybe i had the tc too high at 6 and it was cutting power or maybe too high rear camber i dunno ill have to look into it, it was mainly on the tight hairpins.
I think my TC was at 6 as well. Maybe 7. Surely not less.
Title: Re: S21R1: Donington Park GP Post-Race
Post by: Phil.8 on February 28, 2018, 08:46:49 PM
I am 6 as well
Title: Re: S21R1: Donington Park GP Post-Race
Post by: RussG on February 28, 2018, 10:19:45 PM
Had some good racing.
Race 1 went off track a little at T1 letting Freezer and Mael go past. Kept close behind them and got them back when they had contact between themselves at the first hairpin and I pushed my way through :o 4th place finish wasn't expected but very welcome  ;D ;D
Race 2 I was travelling nicely in 4th and staying with the leaders (let's not mention they had more ballast). When Kcender caught up I gave him an easy pass down the back straight as I thought it better than watching my mirrors all the time and also I thought he might mix it with the leaders and I would be ready to take advantage of any carnage  :o
But like all good plans, it fell apart when I wandered off track at the fast left going up the hill which let Jeremy get right on my ass. Another mistake let Jeremy past. Another mistake let Shayne close in rapidly and we had contact. I think Shayne waited and redressed and I rejoined in 8th I think. THEN, not accounting for the dirty tyres, I went wide at the next turn and spun around, Gratulin drove past and I was 10th. I past Gratulin at T1, but I must apologise as I wasn't purposely attempting a pass and I ran wide on the exit of the turn. Finished 9th which wasn't bad considering the number of own goals kicked  >:(

Currently not a fan of the points system as I finished 4th and 9th and only 9th for the round ....
Title: Re: S21R1: Donington Park GP Post-Race
Post by: Bacchulum on February 28, 2018, 10:31:19 PM
SEASON STANDINGS (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2018/02/s21-standings.html)
Just noticed it's still in alphabetical order, not points order.
Makes the 'pos' column incorrect.

Just sayin' ;)
Title: Re: S21R1: Donington Park GP Post-Race
Post by: Wally on March 01, 2018, 07:52:50 AM
SEASON STANDINGS (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2018/02/s21-standings.html)
Just noticed it's still in alphabetical order, not points order.
Makes the 'pos' column incorrect.

Just sayin' ;)
Fixed. Thanks for showing that somebody actually looks at those standings :)
Title: Re: S21R1: Donington Park GP Post-Race
Post by: Wally on March 01, 2018, 07:59:41 AM
Had some good racing.
Race 1 went off track a little at T1 letting Freezer and Mael go past. Kept close behind them and got them back when they had contact between themselves at the first hairpin and I pushed my way through :o 4th place finish wasn't expected but very welcome  ;D ;D
Race 2 I was travelling nicely in 4th and staying with the leaders (let's not mention they had more ballast). When Kcender caught up I gave him an easy pass down the back straight as I thought it better than watching my mirrors all the time and also I thought he might mix it with the leaders and I would be ready to take advantage of any carnage  :o
But like all good plans, it fell apart when I wandered off track at the fast left going up the hill which let Jeremy get right on my ass. Another mistake let Jeremy past. Another mistake let Shayne close in rapidly and we had contact. I think Shayne waited and redressed and I rejoined in 8th I think. THEN, not accounting for the dirty tyres, I went wide at the next turn and spun around, Gratulin drove past and I was 10th. I past Gratulin at T1, but I must apologise as I wasn't purposely attempting a pass and I ran wide on the exit of the turn. Finished 9th which wasn't bad considering the number of own goals kicked  >:(

Currently not a fan of the points system as I finished 4th and 9th and only 9th for the round ....
Yes, that's interesting. A 4th isn't going to be the same number of points in each race. There are better 4ths if you're further ahead than if you're 4th but further back from the leaders. It probably means that in race 2, someone got a better 4th than what you got in race 1.

E.g. You got 67 for your 4th, but Kcender got 80 for his 4th because he was further in front of the field.
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