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Simulation Racing Leagues => Assetto Corsa => Australian Assetto Corsa League, Tuesday nights => Topic started by: Wally on November 13, 2018, 11:22:12 PM
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Matthew takes a narrow win from Grat to move into second place in the standings. For the first time in a long time, DA Racing (myself and Grat) top the team points.
RACE RESULTS (https://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2018/11/s25r2-imsa-gt-at-sebring.html)
SEASON STANDINGS (https://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2018/11/season-25-standings.html)
SEASON STATS (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nu52lWM6_TIRBEGCTF32BxLe8mobfsCFpd_wOeuxpXI/edit?usp=sharing)
Round Points
Matthew111 29
Grat 25
Shayne 20
Seanus 18
bradc 16
Wally 15
Mael 14
Joe 13
killagorilla 12
Keith 11
RussG 10
Freezer 9
AbleArcher83 8
Phil.8 7
Rob 6
Bird 5
Bacchulum 4
Doobs 3
ab156 2
Jeremy 0
Simone 0
Grat takes his 15 second post-race penalty for an infringement the previous round, but he had enough of a gap to the preceding car to not lose any positions.
Congratulations to Matthew on taking out the race win and fastest race lap, and to Grat for pole position.
Penalties
None.
Season Standings
1. Kcender87, 30
2. Matthew111, 29
3. Grat, 25
R2: Nov 20, Coca-Cola Classic 12 Hours of Sebring at Sebring (2 stops) [TRACK (https://actrackrebootproject.wixsite.com/ac-track-re-boot/sebring-international-raceway)]
Again, this is a 2 stopper. The fuel multiplier is 1.5x.
Everyone has to do two stops.
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Hey Wally, I prefer to practice off-line (its less embarrassing), so is there any way to practice off line with 50% restricter for the Short Tail. I didn't realize that the restricter makes that much difference and it throws the gears ratios way off.
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In Hotlap you can set the restrictor. ;)
(at least in CM)
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Thanks Dave. Yep, there it is. I thought I had checked everywhere in CM but obviously not.
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In straight AC there isn't, but as Bacchulum said, you can try CM.But if you're really stuck, you can create a custom championship in AC and give yourself whatever restrictor you want.
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If you are up to date with CM (App version 0.8.1865.34943), Restrictor is available in Practise mode, not just Hotlap mode.
Make sure you set temperatures and wind the same as the practise server.
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Thanks guys, its not going to make much difference, but every little bit helps..
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The fuel multiplier is 1.5x.
Everyone has to do two stops.
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Much close times for Sebring although the C9's haven't really turned up for practice yet!
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With the C9s now being a few seconds off the pace, their shorter pit stop times might make things interesting.
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Wally, I've done a few laps on the server and noticed the validity of them is unknown. You know what may be the reason for that? Grat's the same.
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Wally, I've done a few laps on the server and noticed the validity of them is unknown. You know what may be the reason for that? Grat's the same.
It's a ptracker/stracker thing. I don't think Grat has ever run ptracker, but I do and I've noticed recently my laps are unknown too. Could be a version thing, but my ptracker shows connected so who knows.
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Wally, I've done a few laps on the server and noticed the validity of them is unknown. You know what may be the reason for that? Grat's the same.
I assume it's a ptracker/stracker thing. Do you run the ptracker app?
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I assume it's a ptracker/stracker thing
Good to see we have the same technical explanation ;D
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Thank you. Now I've got to figure out what that is :)
Means, I don't know if I run it or not.
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Wally, I've done a few laps on the server and noticed the validity of them is unknown. You know what may be the reason for that? Grat's the same.
I assume it's a ptracker/stracker thing. Do you run the ptracker app?
It used to be linked to ptracker---I used it, but when I took it off (was messing up with other stuff) the server lost track of tyres, fuel etc and saying unknown. But why it does the same now with people who are running it, I don't know.
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Just googled for it...nah, don't use it.
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I assume it's a ptracker/stracker thing
Good to see we have the same technical explanation ;D
LOL, I didn't see your post thing.
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Server's up.
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Anyone else not able to see server?
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I see it now
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Anyone else not able to see server?
I just kept refreshing the AC lobby and then eventually more and more servers appeared until I could see the XGN one.
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I cant, first time I can remember a problem
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Results are up in the 1st post.
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That was a MUCH better round for me, with a 6th place finish. I did some work on the setup to make it more stable and consistent, and it paid off with me not having any spins or stupid offs. I think for too long now, I'd been setting up cars "by the numbers", looking at roll couple with my load distribution figures, Camber Extravagansa for cambers, but I chucked all that out the window and went more by "feel".
I had some good early racing around Bird, Mael, killagorilla, and capitalised on a few little mistakes here and there to gain a few spots. The middle stint was fairly quiet and uneventful, but I had Bradc in my sights for a lot of the last stint. Good fun.
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I'm a bit disappointed about my performance (qualy & race), made a couple of little mistakes and I've got to learn to stop at the right spot when pitting.
However, I still enjoyed the race...was fun...cheers.
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I just read in the track description:
Changes For Reboot Version 1.1
- Added Working start lights
- Fixed start points (AI Should start a lot better now)
So I guess it's possible that some people still had 1.0 of the track and not 1.1, and not got a checksum error because the surfaces were the same.
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Ballsed up qualifying a bit to start 14th, but once we got going I had a great first stint getting past quite a few cars.
I started on lighter fuel with a plan to run 3 equal length stints on softs. The tyres hung in pretty well but I think having to take on extra
fuel may not have paid off in on track speed from less weight!
Middle stint was fairly quite and only in the dying laps of the race was I catching Russ a bit when the leaders came up on me. This was a problem as
to lift and let them pass meant I was then being slowed a lot in the corners and Russ was getting away.
This track was an improvement for the short tail, but still Russ was the best shorty in 11th so still room for more improvement
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My qually wasn't as good as it could have been; my son was still up so I was trying to get him settled down before the race started, so I only got one flying lap and even during that he was putting his tablet in my face asking for Batman on youtube... ;D
After discovering how long fueling took in the Mazda last week I started with a full tank, then set up a strategy to add 25 liters for each stop.
The first part of the race was great fun battling with Phil, Freezer and Russ though somewhere around 20 minutes in I got a little loose and hit a wall giving orange body damage all around. I jumped into the pits, and decided not to fix the damage as I was planning on quick stops. This brought me out with Wally but the damage slowed me a lot more than I realized and I couldn't keep up. Killa was also slowly closing on me. Second stop I reduced the fuel to 15 liters as I could see I had enough, and also fixed the damage. This did take a while and I came out further down than I'd hoped, but some other runners taking longer pitstops later than me allowed me to jump them. After my second stop I was blue flagged so let the car behind by without knowing it was Able who I was racing and the flag was for Matthew behind him. Took a few laps chasing the C9 with it's power on the straights but eventually got by. Finished 8th so not too shabby with the damage fix but could have been better.
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It was indeed a much better race, I had some action and not just hotlapping - oh and there was no mistery rocket taking me out either! ( Thank you, but I can make my own mistakes, no need for outside help. )
I was flabbergasted by your quali times, gents, I could not wring more than a second-ish extra out of the car on softs with low fuel - but I've never had a separate quali pace, really. Then I forgot about the very slow refuel times in the short tail, and set out on a less-than-full tank...heh.
Early on in the race I got held up a bit - lack of quali pace, huh. But I could not get around other cars due to the lack of straight line speed. Bit annoying, really.
No biggie, as I have made the inevitable mistakes; my racecraft is very rusty.
Then I've lost heaps of time on the refuellings, even though I've dialled it back quite a bit (finished on 0.7L).
The second/third part of the race was a bit boring, again, due to all this.
All in all, I've finished in one piece, and that's the achievement for me, here :)
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Ok night for me.
The start procedure was quite confusing. I said I was going after the start of the long straight. So I put the turbo to 100%, shouted "go", and floored the throttle. But I think matthew did not hear me. So he lost some ground. I did the whole first lap wondering whether I should have slowed down (I probably did, uncounsciously). Then I realized he lost some 3 seconds and I had a 15 seconds penalty and so in almost no case it would have mattered. So I just went on.
The rest of the race was pretty regular. The new "radio" button is pretty much the same that controls pit strategy, so I involuntarily did a 1st pit with no refuelling that obliged me to a very short 2nd stint. After the hugely long 2nd stop, I was some 14 seconds behind matthew. But I had my engine in great shape, so I pushed the turbo up and started grinding on the hard tires. I almost got to him (though with 15 seconds penalty it was not for the actual win) when we both got stuck in traffic for the last 3 laps.
Even with the 3 seconds weird start, it's impressive we ended up so close (.5 of a sec) with such different strategies. Good stuff, I think.
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Some investigation required for my engineers to find out why I was over 2 sec/lap slower than anyone else. :-\
In-game telemetry trace shows I was getting full throttle, I suspect I had some clutch engaged at all times.
Either that or my setup is utterly crap. :-[
Either way, it meant a night of hotlapping. :(
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Some investigation required for my engineers to find out why I was over 2 sec/lap slower than anyone else. :-\
In-game telemetry trace shows I was getting full throttle, I suspect I had some clutch engaged at all times.
Either that or my setup is utterly crap. :-[
Either way, it meant a night of hotlapping. :(
I recently added a new potentiometer to my throttle but briefly last night I got stuttering acceleration, so I wonder if the clutch is a problem also!
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I tried to setup my pits on the fly to do a bodywork repair but accidently repaired engine damage which I damaged when missing a gear allowing Joe past while scrapping with Freezer :( which cost me a minute or 2 in the pits, would of finished 4th or 5th if not for that I reckon, maybe even third :(
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I tried to setup my pits on the fly to do a bodywork repair but accidently repaired engine damage which I damaged when missing a gear allowing Joe past while scrapping with Freezer :( which cost me a minute or 2 in the pits, would of finished 4th or 5th if not for that I reckon, maybe even third :(
That's it. Sack your crew.
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I tried to setup my pits on the fly to do a bodywork repair but accidently repaired engine damage which I damaged when missing a gear allowing Joe past while scrapping with Freezer :( which cost me a minute or 2 in the pits, would of finished 4th or 5th if not for that I reckon, maybe even third :(
That's it. Sack your crew.
I feel that I should, but unfortunately Krahl racing is missing a sponsor atm and I have to actually get out of the car during the pits and fuel and change tyres myself, while trying to look at telemetry on the laptops in the garage and make adjustments/decisions before strapping myself in again, its true I can make changes while driving, but I find that is a great way to at worse hit the barrier or at best lose a few seconds a lap or like last night change the wrong setting
I wish AC let you make changes while in the pits and also allowed you to cancel or stop a repair
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missing a gear allowing Joe past while scrapping with Freezer
Wondered what happened there. Was a good few laps there with Seanus slowing us up in the corners bunching us up again,.
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had a good time in the porsche was handling good around here, disappointed i went a bit wide at 1 turn on my good lap which cost me pole but no big deal.
The race start was awkward i wasnt on discord so didnt expect grat to go on the back straight so i was on the back foot by 4 secs for the whole first stint, but i was happy with the pace so managed to keep the gap 4 secs until i pitted and then turned the power up on the fresh tyres, i was surprised to be so far behind grat when he pitted so i pushed some more to try close the gap but seeing as he didnt take on fuel it made sense especially when i came out 15 secs in front after the 2nd stop lol. The gap was more than enough for me to cruise to the finish and turn the power down to manage fuel, it was all going to plan until i came up too a group of lapped cars racing for position which is fair enough but it became very awkward for me trying to get past lol had a few close calls with some contact so i played safe and stayed put as i couldnt really turn the boost up as i was close on fuel so i was trying to drive quick in the turns to make the time but i couldnt while behind the lapped cars so grat was closing on me pretty quickly, add to that i was fighting to keep my shifter on the table lol so the last few laps were pretty full on but in the end i just held on for the win with 1.6L of fuel lol
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I'm starting to feel like Danny Glover, I think I'm too old for this shit. I was slow and made mistakes galore.
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I'm starting to feel like Danny Glover, I think I'm too old for this shit. I was slow and made mistakes galore.
I suspect if you slightly off on the setup you have no chance. Normally I would suggest Bacchulum to steal a setup off but he was in the same (sinking) boat last night :)
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I got on early in the practice session and tried to make a setup. Turned out to do well for me.
Never expected to get a podium here, not really a track I ever do well at.
For those that are interested, I will share what I did to the Mazda.
I ended up changing gearing, aero and tyre pressures. Everything else I left alone, I probably could of got something better working but that would of cost too much time as I tend to go round in circles when making setups so I tried to keep it simple.
I took my Daytona setup and made the changes from that, not sure what the gearing is in the default but from my daytona setup I ended up going down one click in the 3rd, 4th and 5th gear. Which was giving me about 290km/h top speed. I added plenty of wing, I think it was on 12 but not sure, could of been 13. Front was on 1 I think. With the shorter gearing and extra wing I was able to get on the power earlier and reach top speed faster (I was just reaching max speed at the final corner). Tyre pressures I just followed that tyre app. I think the fronts were 28 and the rears 25 on mediums which had them average at 33 fronts and 30 rears.
I split the race into 3 equal stints. I found that's about all the mediums could do for me anyway, each time I pitted the rears were done. I started with a full tank and each stop I put on new mediums and 22L of fuel which took basically the same amount of time to complete both. Actually dropped the final stop down to 20L as I knew I didn't need it all and that would cut out about 0.5-1.0 seconds in the stop.
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I'm starting to feel like Danny Glover, I think I'm too old for this shit. I was slow and made mistakes galore.
I suspect if you slightly off on the setup you have no chance. Normally I would suggest Bacchulum to steal a setup off but he was in the same (sinking) boat last night :)
I've only softened the rear a bit on the short tail, it has already helped. But I wasn't aware these cars are *that* setup dependent. In that case I'd kindly request faster guys to share setups, please!
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I'm starting to feel like Danny Glover, I think I'm too old for this shit. I was slow and made mistakes galore.
I suspect if you slightly off on the setup you have no chance. Normally I would suggest Bacchulum to steal a setup off but he was in the same (sinking) boat last night :)
I don't think that was the case Mael, I had a setup that should have let me race around 10th but I drove like shit.
I couldn't do a clean lap in qualifying, and didn't improve in the race. The practice all week was the same. I couldn't have posted a time about 8/10s to a second faster but I kept making an error at least once a lap in different spots.
I had a good race about 6 weeks ago and haven't driven well since.
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I'm starting to feel like Danny Glover, I think I'm too old for this shit. I was slow and made mistakes galore.
I suspect if you slightly off on the setup you have no chance. Normally I would suggest Bacchulum to steal a setup off but he was in the same (sinking) boat last night :)
I don't think that was the case Mael, I had a setup that should have let me race around 10th but I drove like shit.
I couldn't do a clean lap in qualifying, and didn't improve in the race. The practice all week was the same. I couldn't have posted a time about 8/10s to a second faster but I kept making an error at least once a lap in different spots.
I had a good race about 6 weeks ago and haven't driven well since.
A better setup might help with consistency. I made far less mistakes this round with a more stable setup.
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I'm starting to feel like Danny Glover, I think I'm too old for this shit. I was slow and made mistakes galore.
I suspect if you slightly off on the setup you have no chance. Normally I would suggest Bacchulum to steal a setup off but he was in the same (sinking) boat last night :)
I don't think that was the case Mael, I had a setup that should have let me race around 10th but I drove like shit.
I couldn't do a clean lap in qualifying, and didn't improve in the race. The practice all week was the same. I couldn't have posted a time about 8/10s to a second faster but I kept making an error at least once a lap in different spots.
I had a good race about 6 weeks ago and haven't driven well since.
A better setup might help with consistency. I made far less mistakes this round with a more stable setup.
Nah, the setup was fine Wally, it was a driving thing.
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Apart from the wonky start, that wasn't a very bad race. Started 5th, finished 5th.
Looks boring but was rather fun. During the race I got as high as 3rd and felt i was pulling away from 4th but then my fuel strategy let me down. I should have started with more fuel to make each stop a little quicker. Double stinted on my tyres and they held up rather well, however in the 2nd stint my best lap was about 1 second slower. Decided to switch to the soft with 12 minutes to go and after emerging 9th from the pits I had a big crack at charging back though the field. I caught up to Seanus in 4th at the final corner, however his C9 was simply too fast in the drag race to the finishline....oh what could have been.....
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It was an interesting race.
I had an problem in qualifying. Messed up my first qually run.
On my second run, Able Archer came out of the pits as I started my hotlap and blocked me. I forced my way past, then he used the Merc power to blast past on the straight and block me again. I backed off and thought I had left enough room in front, but caught him again on the next lap.
Third run I only had time for 1 lap and thankfully got in a decent one, but there was more in it.
Racing got off to a decent start and I settled in behind a bunch of Long Tails. The first few laps Seanus was poking the Merc nose up beside me but I gradually fought him off. It was looking good - I expected the Long Tails to ease away and leave me to settle into a rythum.
But ... then the Long Tails went bumping into each other and I wound up battling with ab for half a lap until he opened up the turbo and moved ahead. Unfortunately this had let Seanus catch up and he blasted past as well. Trying to get power down quickly on the straight I lost the rear SLIGHTlY, but it was enough for Phil, Freezer and Joe to cruise past.
I was heaps quicker than Joe, but there was no way past the Mazda as it just romped away on the straights. So I pitted as soon as I could fit the first stop fuel (60L) in and then got some free track and put in some decent times. I jumped Freezer in the pit stops but the Mazdas were gone since they only need a thimble of fuel at the pit stop.
After the second stop I came out behind Able Archer and was losing 2-4 seconds a lap with Freezer closing in fast. I made a mistake trying to get past the Merc and let Freezer through. Now it was his turn to get balked by the Merc :) Had some nice door 2 door action but didn't get through. That's when Matthew appeared and got in the middle of the war :( Then it all happened - Freezer got up the inside of Able coming onto the straight, Able got too much right foot, lost the rear and ran into Matthew. I passed Able there and Freezer had a slow entry onto the straight so I gathered him up and we went into the final turn side by side (nail biting stuff), but I had the inside, so got the best of it. Meanwhile Matthew was only just in front and had the rear step out and come back in to hit me. Lucky the hits mentioned were all very minor and no real damage done.
But here I was in free air again and showed some of the pace the Short Tail had and put in 1:57's for the last 3 laps with Matthew content to sit in behind. He blasted past on the straight on the last lap as grat had caught us up.
I think we Short Tails will just have our own little party I don't see much hope of challenging other cars at most tracks. But I don't care, I love driving this thing :)
PS: Looking forward to getting on the same bit of track as Freezer in future races and having some ding dong battles
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I think we Short Tails will just have our own little party I don't see much hope of challenging other cars at most tracks. But I don't care, I love driving this thing :)
I also like driving this car but I think we might need to look at dropping back some of that 50% restrictor to get us in the mix. There's plenty of long straights ahead :(
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I think we Short Tails will just have our own little party I don't see much hope of challenging other cars at most tracks. But I don't care, I love driving this thing :)
I also like driving this car but I think we might need to look at dropping back some of that 50% restrictor to get us in the mix. There's plenty of long straights ahead :(
Yeah, I might drop it down a fraction, or Seanus suggested a little ballast to slow it down in the corners and not in the straights.
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I think we Short Tails will just have our own little party I don't see much hope of challenging other cars at most tracks. But I don't care, I love driving this thing :)
I also like driving this car but I think we might need to look at dropping back some of that 50% restrictor to get us in the mix. There's plenty of long straights ahead :(
Yeah, I might drop it down a fraction, or Seanus suggested a little ballast to slow it down in the corners and not in the straights.
As a matter of interest, how much faster is it without the restrictor? I've only driven with restrictor.
From what I've seen, the Long Tails seem about the same through the corners, but can blast it on the straights ....
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I got on early in the practice session and tried to make a setup. Turned out to do well for me.
Never expected to get a podium here, not really a track I ever do well at.
For those that are interested, I will share what I did to the Mazda.
I ended up changing gearing, aero and tyre pressures. Everything else I left alone, I probably could of got something better working but that would of cost too much time as I tend to go round in circles when making setups so I tried to keep it simple.
I took my Daytona setup and made the changes from that, not sure what the gearing is in the default but from my daytona setup I ended up going down one click in the 3rd, 4th and 5th gear. Which was giving me about 290km/h top speed. I added plenty of wing, I think it was on 12 but not sure, could of been 13. Front was on 1 I think. With the shorter gearing and extra wing I was able to get on the power earlier and reach top speed faster (I was just reaching max speed at the final corner). Tyre pressures I just followed that tyre app. I think the fronts were 28 and the rears 25 on mediums which had them average at 33 fronts and 30 rears.
I split the race into 3 equal stints. I found that's about all the mediums could do for me anyway, each time I pitted the rears were done. I started with a full tank and each stop I put on new mediums and 22L of fuel which took basically the same amount of time to complete both. Actually dropped the final stop down to 20L as I knew I didn't need it all and that would cut out about 0.5-1.0 seconds in the stop.
Great qualy and race mate. Yeah, and cheers for sharing your setup. Amazing how you can drive this thing using pretty much default setup. You must have an extremely sensitive right foot. I'm losing this thing out of almost every corner on default...screwed driving style...no skills...dunno what it is. So I have changed pretty much everything on it :)
With that it is really fun to drive, but it's not really fast by comparison.
Seems I was doing the whole race with a little bit of damage because of this situation where I was sharing the same spot on the grid with this 7up Porsche. At the beginning of the race I was behind a Merc and so much faster through turns, but I wasn't able to overtake safely. Then on the straights he was just pulling away. So there's just no chance getting these guys on the brake.
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I think we Short Tails will just have our own little party I don't see much hope of challenging other cars at most tracks. But I don't care, I love driving this thing :)
I also like driving this car but I think we might need to look at dropping back some of that 50% restrictor to get us in the mix. There's plenty of long straights ahead :(
Yeah, I might drop it down a fraction, or Seanus suggested a little ballast to slow it down in the corners and not in the straights.
hate when I am always right ;)
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I think we Short Tails will just have our own little party I don't see much hope of challenging other cars at most tracks. But I don't care, I love driving this thing :)
I also like driving this car but I think we might need to look at dropping back some of that 50% restrictor to get us in the mix. There's plenty of long straights ahead :(
Yeah, I might drop it down a fraction, or Seanus suggested a little ballast to slow it down in the corners and not in the straights.
hate when I am always right ;)
But you love when I listen, collect evidence and then act, right ;)
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I think we Short Tails will just have our own little party I don't see much hope of challenging other cars at most tracks. But I don't care, I love driving this thing :)
I also like driving this car but I think we might need to look at dropping back some of that 50% restrictor to get us in the mix. There's plenty of long straights ahead :(
Yeah, I might drop it down a fraction, or Seanus suggested a little ballast to slow it down in the corners and not in the straights.
hate when I am always right ;)
But you love when I listen, collect evidence and then act, right ;)
We love you unconditionally, Dear Leader. ;)