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Offline buellersdayoff

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Re: The driving standards thread
« Reply #45 on: March 26, 2018, 12:05:06 AM »


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Re: The driving standards thread
« Reply #46 on: September 24, 2020, 05:28:24 PM »
Let's discuss this incident between the Nissan and the Volvo. Was it a fair pass?

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In my opinion, it's hard to call. I'd err on the side of the Nissan being too forceful. The Volvo was on the racing line, but then the Nissan was a fair way up the inside, but it wasn't a clean pass, with the Nissan more or less escorting the Volvo off the track.

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Re: The driving standards thread
« Reply #47 on: September 24, 2020, 05:57:47 PM »
Seems like the Nissan it surging around a bit maybe the replay. Is aggressive as you say and doesn't hold a tight inside line drifts across and pushes the Volvo off. Think I'd be annoyed if I was the Volvo doing nothing wrong but does look like just a racing incident.

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Re: The driving standards thread
« Reply #48 on: September 24, 2020, 05:59:39 PM »
Yeah, just to be clear, I'm not looking for any kind of penalty, just getting opinions on what people think is acceptable, community standards and all that.
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Re: The driving standards thread
« Reply #49 on: September 24, 2020, 06:05:48 PM »
The Nissan had the inside line, and should've kept to it, but didn't.
The brake lights are still on well past the apex, indicating it went in too hot, and barely kept on the track on exit.
If I was in the Volvo, I'd be cursing blue murder.
If I was in the Nissan, I'd redress.

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Re: The driving standards thread
« Reply #50 on: September 24, 2020, 06:10:01 PM »
The Formula 1 perspective:

If Lewis Hamilton was in the Nissan, great pass.
If Lewis Hamilton was in the Volvo, 10 second stop/go.

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Re: The driving standards thread
« Reply #51 on: September 24, 2020, 07:03:41 PM »
I think Killa ran in too hot at T1 but they got away with it, then Mael went in too hot and they didn't!   ;)

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Re: The driving standards thread
« Reply #52 on: September 25, 2020, 11:20:24 AM »
just my 2c; nothing wrong there, but hard head-to-head racing, with Volvo outbraking himself a couple of times.

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Re: The driving standards thread
« Reply #53 on: September 25, 2020, 09:21:38 PM »
Would have been nice if Mael had left me a bit of tarmac there. Where was I supposed to go?
He screwed up my race a couple of laps earlier...absolutely zero chance passing me.
Mael & Laguna Seca is a bad combination for me. I remember a very aggressive move at turn 5 in the beamers the last time we raced there.

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Re: The driving standards thread
« Reply #54 on: September 25, 2020, 09:24:55 PM »
The Formula 1 perspective:

If Lewis Hamilton was in the Nissan, great pass.
If Lewis Hamilton was in the Volvo, 10 second stop/go.

Hahaha...sure you're right  :D

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Re: The driving standards thread
« Reply #55 on: September 25, 2020, 09:41:08 PM »
Racing incidents for the most but not a good look by either car. 
Volvo missed the apex by a lot and hit the Nissan .  Volvo could of redressed then and there but probably didn't realise that the contact was the Volvo's fault.
The Nissan was to aggressive after t1 , making contact on the back quarter panel isn't good and is easily race ending.  Nissan should of backed of after the first bit of contact although  Volvo should of left more room .
Volvo was the cause of these racing incidents

For the Nissan to come back and hit the rear quarter again is poor form and everything that follows is avoidable by the Nissan . To aggressive imo  . If the Nissan makes that next turn and leaves room for the Volvo and not force it of the track , then yeah rubbing is racing.  I doubt the Nissan would of made the corner if it had not hit the Volvo.

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Re: The driving standards thread
« Reply #56 on: September 26, 2020, 04:28:29 PM »
Don't really see an issue, more contact than ideal but it is racing, not hot lapping.  If people are getting wound up about it we better get a sponsorship from Kleenex.

Volvo was deep into T1 and pushed Nissan offline with contact.
Volvo gave plenty of room on exit.
Nissan hit Volvo a few times under acceleration.
Volvo left room on corner entry T3.
Nissan got a bit of red mist and had two cracks at braking zone.
Volvo continued to leave room.
Nissan overshot apex and forced Volvo off track.
Volvo had a minor off, Nissan continued.

If I was the Volvo driver I am sure I would be annoyed at the time buy wouldn't bother calling my Lawyer.

If you switch the availabe road at T1 with T3 the Volvo would have run the Nissan off the road there so the "boys" were sorting it out.

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Re: The driving standards thread
« Reply #57 on: September 26, 2020, 05:03:47 PM »
But the Volvo didn't run the Nissan off the road in T1, the Nissan did run the Volvo off the road in T3.
I don't see how they are similar. ???

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Re: The driving standards thread
« Reply #58 on: September 26, 2020, 05:28:13 PM »
Both cars made the same error, the position on track resulted in a different outcome - ipso facto if one is wrong then both are wrong.

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Re: The driving standards thread
« Reply #59 on: September 26, 2020, 05:50:03 PM »
One drove to the corner he was approaching, the other didn't.
Error or not, there was room left.
Intention matters not, only consequence (at least in Australian law).

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