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Re: Round 3: Mugello Race Chat
« Reply #30 on: August 11, 2014, 11:42:46 AM »
Just out of interest, have you tried raising the set by a few millimeters to see if it makes any real difference in handling?  I found that raising both ends by about 20 ticks (millimeters I think) Will alleviate the issue greatly.   But I'm not good enough to tell if the handling is really changed or not.

I may try that tonight but I havent had issues bottoming out once I figured out what line I can take with it. Even full of fuel hasnt been an issue but as in the imola race I didnt bottom out that setup until race 2 after many laps before without issue. But 20mm I think would have to have some effect on handling and I am quite happy with hiw it handles now that Ive learnt the line and can also take 6 flat with full fuel and hard tyres.

With lower grip levels tyre temps and pressures may be a bit lower and cause more bottoming out issues. But still holding the inside line through 8 and 9 is smooth and it has so much grip there is no need to go wide. I did try pass Guybrush inside of 9 a couple times both very unsuccesfully. The final turn I havent hit that bump yet but I am running a bit more aero so can run a lower line there with more speed.

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Re: Round 3: Mugello Race Chat
« Reply #31 on: August 11, 2014, 11:47:31 AM »
I did get a big bottoming out kick between 9 and 10 one time. I raised the height just to be safe.


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Re: Round 3: Mugello Race Chat
« Reply #32 on: August 11, 2014, 12:58:57 PM »
If you run the line as in the video I posted there wont be a kick there. Its only if running a bit of a high line I got a few kicks. Guybrush was mentioning hitting a bump on the last turn a few times but on my line there I have not hit it yet so not sure exactly where that bump is.

Did you lose any mid corner grip raising the ride height Wally?

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Re: Round 3: Mugello Race Chat
« Reply #33 on: August 11, 2014, 01:32:10 PM »
If you run the line as in the video I posted there wont be a kick there. Its only if running a bit of a high line I got a few kicks. Guybrush was mentioning hitting a bump on the last turn a few times but on my line there I have not hit it yet so not sure exactly where that bump is.

Did you lose any mid corner grip raising the ride height Wally?
Not really. I think I might have set my PB with the higher ride height. I haven't really noticed much handling difference with a higher ride height - other than not getting a kick in the pants from the track when you bottom out!
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Re: Round 3: Mugello Race Chat
« Reply #34 on: August 11, 2014, 02:18:35 PM »
I definitely noticed a difference when raising the ride height - not as pointy and a bit sloppy in that the car will maintain grip but the tyres will growl some more and wash off more speed.  I found I couldn't take corners such as T3 flat out as easily with the heigh raised.

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Re: Round 3: Mugello Race Chat
« Reply #35 on: August 11, 2014, 03:51:16 PM »
I will install AIM software and run some laps this afternoon, for me what it drove like the other day I dont think I need higher suspension as I can just avoid the couple of bumps but will be interesting to see how much of a difference it will make.

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Re: Round 3: Mugello Race Chat
« Reply #36 on: August 11, 2014, 04:19:54 PM »
So what is a realistic time on this track.  I'm seeing 1.44 -45s on RSR and thinking my handbrake must be stuck on.....  :(

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Re: Round 3: Mugello Race Chat
« Reply #37 on: August 11, 2014, 04:21:04 PM »
I'm just thinking of safety. The bump I felt here wasn't as drastic as the Imola ones. There, your car could be sent into a spin. That didn't happen here. But still... If the bottoming out doesn't get you, a kerb will. It should be a pretty intense race.
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Re: Round 3: Mugello Race Chat
« Reply #38 on: August 11, 2014, 04:21:37 PM »
So what is a realistic time on this track.  I'm seeing 1.44 -45s on RSR and thinking my handbrake must be stuck on.....  :(
My race trim PB is 46.1, for reference.
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Re: Round 3: Mugello Race Chat
« Reply #39 on: August 11, 2014, 04:24:35 PM »
So what is a realistic time on this track.  I'm seeing 1.44 -45s on RSR and thinking my handbrake must be stuck on.....  :(
My race trim PB is 46.1, for reference.
Thanks Wally, thats sounds better.  I was doing 49s on my own pc, then stangely dropped 1.5s on the server to get into the mid 1.47s.  More setup work needed I think...!

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Re: Round 3: Mugello Race Chat
« Reply #40 on: August 11, 2014, 04:27:04 PM »
I've been running 22mm @ front and 32mm @ rear.
I've been experimenting with the travel, giving it 20mm @ front and 30mm @ rear (theoretically 2mm clearance).
No bottoming out yet ;D, but it digs in in the sandtraps :(.

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Re: Round 3: Mugello Race Chat
« Reply #41 on: August 11, 2014, 05:16:20 PM »
So what is a realistic time on this track.  I'm seeing 1.44 -45s on RSR and thinking my handbrake must be stuck on.....  :(
My race trim PB is 46.1, for reference.
Thanks Wally, thats sounds better.  I was doing 49s on my own pc, then stangely dropped 1.5s on the server to get into the mid 1.47s.  More setup work needed I think...!
I think I'm using 14/11 downforce on hard tyres.
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Re: Round 3: Mugello Race Chat
« Reply #42 on: August 12, 2014, 12:17:58 AM »
I'll sit this one out Wally, did about 4 laps total and that's just not enough for this track. Think I'll do the right thing by all and let a reserve in.

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Re: Round 3: Mugello Race Chat
« Reply #43 on: August 12, 2014, 08:14:32 AM »
I'll sit this one out Wally, did about 4 laps total and that's just not enough for this track. Think I'll do the right thing by all and let a reserve in.
Are you sure? It'll still be fun.
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Re: Round 3: Mugello Race Chat
« Reply #44 on: August 12, 2014, 08:41:18 AM »
I'll sit this one out Wally, did about 4 laps total and that's just not enough for this track. Think I'll do the right thing by all and let a reserve in.

That's 4 laps too many I say Davo!
Get out there. You will at least have me to race with if you are feeling that slow!  :D

 

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