[Wally]

RACE RESULTS
SEASON STATS

Round Points
Marty   68
Phil.8   62
Kcender87   60
Diehard   58
Grat   56
Matthew111   54
Shayne   52
Mael   50
Wally   48
Cursed   46
Slow_As   44
UnFknBLievable   42
Bird   40
Bacchulum   38
Doobs   36
Seanus   34
AJ   32
ab156   30
Shameless   28
Keith   26
RussG   0
Simone   0
Gratulin   0

Congratulations to Marty on pole, the two race wins, and the overall round win, a clean sweep.

Lap 1 Penalties
None. Sorry guys, I didn't catch the start of the race in my replay (I've lowered the replay quality now).

Season Leaders
1. Marty, 198
2. Phil.8, 190
3. Diehard, 174 (up from 4th place)

It's shaping up as a battle between Marty and Phil for the championship, with Marty having most wins, and Phil having most podiums. Marty and Phil have 3 fastest lap races each.

Team Standings
1. Krahl Racing, 330
2. Maki Engineering, 292
3. Infinity + 1, 281

[Bird]

hehe.  I had a shit of a quali, then a pretty darn good first half, racing in a pack, swapping positions.  Then I've started getting tired, put the front into a wall a bit.  The pit stop was long - they probably replaced my front.  Then the tyres have surprised me: suddenly I had no turn-in! Bloody cold tyres...

As the tyres warmed up, I was slowly picking myself up then put it into a wall again, this time pretty hard - but at least sideways, no biggie.  But I was too knackered I think.

Still it was enjoyable, and I'm very happy I did not hit anyone .

[Mael]

Did not think I'll make 32 laps after going off on lap 1 but it turned out a rather enjoyable race. Even had some decent passing maneuvers    Great racing all.

Best of all I finished ahead of Wally   

[grat]

Had a very enjoyable quali and the first 14 laps or so of the race were really cool, with Marty, Phil, Kcender (until the spin) and I on very very close pace.

Just to clarify my take on the accident: I got very confused, because we normally are very nice under blue flag (almost F1 style). Seanus was taking the rule more to the letter---more blancpain style, so to speak---and I did not know exactly what to do behind him. If we play hard-to-lap, then the lapping car has to be somewhat aggressive, so I just tried to close to gap on Marty and him to make sure that when Marty would find a space I could try to follow him suit. I then think Seanus went on the brakes early exactly because he wanted Marty to pass. The problem is that I was not expecting that, and even though I was braking a good 10 meters before my mark, I bumped into him.

I am sorry it ended up like that. But personally it seems unnecessary to me. We are all amateurs and online it is very hard to follow a slower car that close. It was shaping to be an amazing race between Marty, Phil, and I, but I completely lost the rhythm after that.

I repeat: no blame to Seanus at all. I just think we might want to speak to each other and agree on what a lapping car should expect. If we know what to expect, I am sure we can avoid situations like tonight.

Sorry again to Seanus.

[Wally]

Results in first post.

[Slow_As]

Great race all.

Qually was a little stressful - ran in to somebodies spin - rushed back to pits - took out some fuel and went for qually - Had ok lap to go 7th.

Race - got gobbled up at the start a little then settled in for the long haul.

Pitted a little later and came out with Mael and Wally from memory, Mael got by quickly while my tyres were warming up and then a lap or so later Wally did too - as I tried to use the full potential grip of the tyres a little before the tyres were happy to play ball....

Settled in behind Wally - trying to catch him - but a few saved slides on my part and he got away.

Finally settled in to a rythym in 10th, then on the second last lap - as cursed was closing in - but semi comfortably behind..... went through turn 9 fine, and to try to keep speed up a little more - left it in 6th instead of normal off throttle drop to 5th - big mistake - this kept the speed up but when I then wanted 4th gear for turn 10 - that bloody over -rev protection activated..., no 4th gear, no change in weight transfer - and the only time I went off in that corner all night. could not believe it.... lost 6 seconds - cursed got by and I rejoined and finished 11th. Annoyed with myself - but otherwise a good intense race.

Thanks all and looking forward to seeing the replay/highlights package.... I understand there was some fun at the front too.

[Shameless_1]

I didnt't get much practise, but managed to get a 1:52.9 for qualifiying.. pb 1:50.8 during the race.  controller disconnected twice during the race so no control, hit the wall lightly thankfully the first time.. 2nd time not so lucky broken windscreen and damaged steering and front splitter but still managed 1:54.5s.. finished 19th and drenched in sweat from head to toe.

congrats to the leaders

[marty]

Was a fun race, qualy I had a silly spin and crash early then went out and found some space for a second run a couple seconds behind Phil. He was catching some traffic but I was far enough back to get in a couple laps and luckily it was just enough. My last lap I caught traffic on a good one and had to abort the lap as I didnt want to ruin the other cars lap and just a couple corners I lost all I was up anyway.

The race was shaping up to be a good 3 way battle early, I added some rear wing for the race to avoid the silly spin crash I had in qualy. I had to get pretty defensive lap 1 after a good jump to make sure Grat didn't get ahead then just tried to pull a gap, I got a couple seconds up fairly early but then grat and Phil close behind him picked up the pace and put in some solid laps and we were matching each other for the next 10 laps where the gap stayed 2 to 3 seconds to Grat and Phil was fastest on track just behind him.

Then unfortunately the little incident with the Blue flags, I really wasn't sure what Seanus was doing as I didn't expect anyone to defend under blue flags and try to go as fast as he could to ensure I cant get an easy pass. I just dont see the point in trying to make the leaders force a sketchy pass on someone when they are being lapped on lap 12 of a 32 lap race on a 1:48 lap, with about 40 seconds for the pit stop, this means through 12 laps he was already 68 seconds behind and due to the early stop has put himself out of position and into the blue flags. I think blue flags are blue flags and people dont need to drive themselves off the track to let leaders past but there is no point making it difficult for them to pass unless we have a set rule that say blue flags dont mean anything.

I understand how he doesn't want to do anything unpredictable but he was pushing so hard as if is fighting for the lead of the race when in fact he is fighting to not get lapped 1/3 into the race. He was pushing so hard on entry that I really couldnt find a safe way past and with it looking like he could spin most of the time I was behind him I really didnt want to force a pass that would likely cause a collision. By the start of the next lap Phil pitted as he could see it was going to cause us issue ahead and at this point I realized I needed to make a proper racing pass as the blue flags weren't being respected. Down the main straight I moved to the inside as a clear indication thats where I was planning to go very early on, not knowing if he was going to defend here or not and I guess Grat didn't know either. He then braked much sooner then expected and very hard catching out Grat who hit him and both spun, I did all I could to avoid that outcome but I really dont see the reason why he would chose to try battle against people he isn't racing. Maybe he thought he could hold up the leaders all race and then once we pit he would be 40 seconds ahead but he maybe didnt realize even in that outcome we would still have pitted out 68 seconds ahead of him.

The main reason I dont like to stop early if I am in a good position is to avoid getting stuck back in traffic, these would all be passes for position and so choosing to pit early in such a format will likely give you traffic issues, if you are already near the back then this will mean you will likely be getting blue flags which aren't a different shade of blue simply because you pitted early. 

After the I saw Phil pitted but Grat had lost about 10 seconds, knowing the pit stop was about 40 seconds but also on cold tyres you will lose another 4 or 5 in the first 2 laps I tried to stay out long enough to have clear track ahead of Phil but also still have enough gap to exit the pits ahead. I wanted to pit as late as possible while still having enough gap to come out ahead, with lots of traffic and my tyres starting to go though I was forced to pit as soon as there was clear track ahead of Phil and I still had just over 40 seconds so should be able to exit just ahead.

I came out of the pits with only a couple seconds to Phil knowing that I would have little hope in holding the lead cold tyres vs his nice fresh hot ones, I didn't put up much of a defence even though it was to lose the lead as I knew it was a battle I couldn't win at this point. I hoped once my tyres came to temp and pressure I may be able to mount an attack to get the lead back. I was able to stay with Phil and we had a good battle for a couple laps and I managed to make the pass back for the lead, from there I just tried to get some sort of gap on Phil as he had some good pace here and I needed to push very hard to make any sort of margin to end up taking a pretty narrow win. Shame Grat, was taken out of the battle as it may have been a 3 way fight to the very end.

[Wally]

I had been looking at the wings app in AC, in particular the EFF value, which is the ratio of downforce to drag. I noticed that with the wings on their max angle, you didn't really lose much in terms of more drag, so tonight I gave max wing a go. It made the car relatively planted, and I don't feel like it really slowed me down when I was being chased on the straights.

Early on in the race, it was pretty frantic being stuck right up behind Simone, trying not to drill him in the rear. No contacts for me tonight. I chased him for a good 9 laps (with Tom capitalising on a poor exit from turn 12), until he suddenly veered off the track for no apparent reason.

After my pit stop, I was pretty much half way between Mael and Slow_As who I took some time to pass, finally courtesy of a slight mistake he made, but I couldn't make any ground on Mael who's best lap time was about 0.5 second better than mine.

[marty]

The wings don't create that much drag but have a big effect on balance, too much gives high speed understeer not enough can make it very sketchy in the rear. Here I had 6 in qualy but went back to 7 for the race as early with a heavy car, cold tyres and low grip it was pretty easy to lose the rear. Once the tyres were good the lower wing helped but losing the rear once could be end of the race as I properly wrecked one car in qualy on the first run. 

If you get too much high speed understeer you lose mid corner speed and also exit speed, but if the rear is sliding your also losing exit speed so its a fine line and with the weight in the rear it needs a fair bit of wing at nearly all tracks. You need the rear end to slide a little and here if the car was understeering anywhere it was quite slow, it needs to be loose but controllable.

[Wally]

I also fiddled with the roll bars a little, which seemed to rebalance the car, so it wasn't really understeery. I'll have to do a bit more testing at Silverstone, and see how the top speed is affected there.

[Simone]

Great start and i had fun burning Wally and putting him behind me by the first corner,big shame my neck and elbows(i suffer from tennis elbow i was a tennis player almost all my life,and now i lift fruit boxes every day ) were hurting me,First 10 laps i had wally on my tail chasing me hard but he was very relaxed and he did noting silly.Unfortunately i could not handle the steering wheel anymore and first i made a mistake and then trying to change tyres to get a little rest .............nah.......it was too much,i was in pain and again i went to bed....not funny cause i love  racing online but it looks like my arms and neck and probably brain cant keep up at this stage.old age is catching up with me........solutions??     VIAGRA?    maybe ,we see when i finish picking my crop and i am a bit more relaxed on the farm but definately see you next week..... xgn racing online is tough but also very funny,thx guys!!!!

[marty]

I also fiddled with the roll bars a little, which seemed to rebalance the car, so it wasn't really understeery. I'll have to do a bit more testing at Silverstone, and see how the top speed is affected there.

Roll bars and rake will all have a big effect on the balance, you can use a bit less wing and take some loosenes out with these. As you can the other way around but if your going to be using curbs and bumps you want a stiffer front and softer rear arb which will need a bit less wing.

VIR and Imola you needed the car fairly stable over curbs and bumps, Silverstone I think is much the same so its always a tricky balancing act to find what works best.

[marty]

Congratulations to Marty on pole, the two race wins, and the overall round win, a clean sweep.

Good effort that as I didn't even start race 2. 

I must apologize for my blow up last night, so sorry to all for the teamspeak distraction, sorry to Marty and most of all Grat as I did rather stuff his race up.
For my behavior before I burst a sand shoe I think that has been covered over in the separate thread so no need to rehash that here.

All good, was just a minor misunderstanding and its good to get a bit more clarification for next time so we are all on the same page as in the other thread. Good stuff that you hung in there to finish after all that and its just a shame that both yours and Grats race was effected there as the t1 crash due to the minor issue with the blue flags prior.

[Freezer]

Did not think I'll make 32 laps after going off on lap 1 but it turned out a rather enjoyable race. Even had some decent passing maneuvers    Great racing all.

Best of all I finished ahead of Wally   

Well done Mael, solid points haul for the team!