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Simulation Racing Leagues => Assetto Corsa => Australian Assetto Corsa League, Tuesday nights => Topic started by: Freezer on July 07, 2015, 12:10:48 PM
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So with only 2 races to go it might be time to mention Season 8 and what we will be racing.
I'll go first and propose a single make low powered car series . . . . a nice change from the hyper cars.
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This fits the charter, so thread can now be closed. ;D
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If we want something a bit more serious then maybe every round at Nords with a different car each week. ;)
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I've been having some thoughts...
1. Abarth 500/Step 1 handicap (top half of field get the slower car), just to close up the field a little and spice it up a bit.
2. As above, but with close X-Bow & Lotus 2-11 (similar styles of car, similar performances).
3. Pagani Zonda R single make.
In general, I like the idea of multiple makes, giving a bit of a slight handicap. Otherwise every race is too predictable. But discuss away...
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I think the Zonda R is pretty much a repeat of this season in a slightly better car.
Abarth 500 would be interesting but could keep all the same with the same race format as this season. Short sprint race and longer reverse grid race 2 is enough handicap I think.
Xbow vs 2-11 sounds interesting and I think the cars are quite similar in the same way as the laferrari and p1 just at slower speeds.
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What I'm thinking with the Zonda is that some people don't like road cars, and prefer race cars. This would be a race car option.
There will be a poll with a few options, as always.
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The zonda r isnt exactly a race car as I dont think it was in any actual race series. Its just a track day hypercar special kind of like the p1gtr or laferrai fxxk would be. You may want to consider the mclaren f1gtr, sauber c9 or even 458s3 which is supposed to be the 458 challenge cup car if your want a more race specific car.
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+1 for the slower type of cars... Abarth500 or that little Alfa like we had that one time in between season... or was it a mid season fun race...
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I'm up for anything.... ANYTHING.
Would it be worth considering a tyre handicap with the slower cars - semi-slicks v road? Not sure if you could monitor it using laps in ptracker or something, or whether it would just be up to the honesty of the individual?
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Good thing about slower cars is that the whole field can better handle them and in my experience it keeps the field close together as they flog the daylights out of their little engines.
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The Alfa 4C could be a good option. Interesting to drive and handles pretty good so could be a fun series?
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I'm up for anything.... ANYTHING.
Would it be worth considering a tyre handicap with the slower cars - semi-slicks v road? Not sure if you could monitor it using laps in ptracker or something, or whether it would just be up to the honesty of the individual?
It would have to be an honesty system. There's no way of knowing who's on what, so that's of dubious value. People will forget...
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If ptracker was compulsory then you can check what everyone runs in race results. You could also run z4 s1 vs standard with standard only having street tyres and the s1 option for semi slicks.
If that was to be the go simply have a basic rule anyone running the wrong tyres gets no points in the race, its up to everyone to run the correct ones and saying you simply forgot wont mean much as you lose all points. Pretty sure people wont forget every round and also not having ptracker would mean no points are given.
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Liking the sound of X-Bow & Lotus 2-11, or as Gratulin suggested the Alfa 4C looks good too.
Ahhhh, new season brainstorming, good times!! :D
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This fits the charter, so thread can now be closed. ;D
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If we want something a bit more serious then maybe every round at Nords with a different car each week. ;)
Would to hilarious to host this on the vallaluga-sprint one evening or have it as a pub server side dish :)
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I like the idea of low grip, low power and good setup options. Usually results in closer racing
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I like the idea of low grip, low power and good setup options. Usually results in closer racing
JaimeP you need to join up for Thursday's league...
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I like the idea of low grip, low power and good setup options. Usually results in closer racing
JaimeP you need to join up for Thursday's league...
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Low grip - tick
Low power - tick
Good setup options - tick
Close, fun racing - tick
Flattop, when are you going to configure "old" track grip option :)
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This fits the charter, so thread can now be closed. ;D
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If we want something a bit more serious then maybe every round at Nords with a different car each week. ;)
Would to hilarious to host this on the vallaluga-sprint one evening or have it as a pub server side dish :)
I have put these up on a server, quite fun in the same way as robbins racing is. This one doesnt exactly roll over but tip over under heavy braking, its missing some sounds and has a gearbox made of plastic so 1 bad shift and its gone. Would be fun for a thursday nite mid season bash or a friday fun run type thing but not exactly a tuesday season in them.
I think some basic cars may be more popular as the hypercars have dwindled in race numbers as the season and even races have gone on. It does show that it hasnt been the most popular combo even though for me the racing has been probably the best of all the seasons with having a car that isnt a big disadvantage to the rest of the field. Most other seasons its been like trying to beat Mercedes in a renault or Honda powered f1 car. Still fun and challenging but many times the gaps were quite large if people were a bit quick for the car they got.
Maybe ballast will come with 1.2 and then we can race a 1 make class with some success ballast to bring the fastest guys back into the mid pack and spice the racing up even more.
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I like the idea of low grip, low power and good setup options. Usually results in closer racing
Toyota 86 should be just the ticket! At least for low grip and low power.
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A series of s1 500's would be super cool, smash the curbs, chuck them around, thrash the h pattern lol be good classic touring style racing id say.
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I've started a poll thread.
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A series of s1 500's would be super cool, smash the curbs, chuck them around, thrash the h pattern lol be good classic touring style racing id say.
That would be my prefered choice as its very different to anything else we have raced. The 500s1 is a blast to drive too and its far from easy to get pace out of it even if laptimes are quite slow. Not much to the setup so overall laptimes would be fairly close and a race format like this season I think would work well.
Ive done a full season in the lotus gtc, gx already and if anything would prefer a gt3 or gt2 choose your own car full season which would be more interesting then 2 lotuses that run very different tyres to each other so not a great match up really. GT3 tyres vs gt2 tyres and so a sprint race GX can run softs where the gtc needs mediums. Maybe a full GT season later when there are even more gt cars to choose.
The Zonda R is very much the same as what we just drove and numbers have dropped with a few guys struggling in these hyper cars.
The lotus 2 eleven and KTM I think would be better, the GT4 car may be faster but its trickier to drive then the regular one so I dont see that working too well as a handicap car. I think m235i is also kind of in the ballpark of the ktm and lotus laptime wise but I havent raced them against eachother. I do have a server with them up though as I wanted to find out, I went by nords lap times they were all pretty close to eachother.
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Would love to race Thursdays as well but it's my only night off to relax and do nothing :(
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Wish the Thursday comp was on Fridays!! :D
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And the Tuesday comp was on Monday's ;)
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GT3 series!!
Pick a GT3 car and stick with it for the whole season. That would be awesome :)
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GT3 series!!
Pick a GT3 car and stick with it for the whole season. That would be awesome :)
+17 (I have friends in high places... :o)
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GT3 series!!
Pick a GT3 car and stick with it for the whole season. That would be awesome :)
One day... we did GT cars in season 4 (but it wasn't "stick with one car").
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GT3 series!!
Pick a GT3 car and stick with it for the whole season. That would be awesome :)
One day... we did GT cars in season 4 (but it wasn't "stick with one car").
That was get stuck in an evora season wasnt it, kind of like one of the options. ;)
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Wish the Thursday comp was on Fridays!! :D
And the Tuesday comp was on Monday's ;)
Why not call the Thursday Cobra cup the Friday Cobra cup and it should actually be a race with Miata's on a Monday. ;D
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Ferrari Friday .... Miata Monday
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GT3 series!!
Pick a GT3 car and stick with it for the whole season. That would be awesome :)
One day... we did GT cars in season 4 (but it wasn't "stick with one car").
That was get stuck in an evora season wasnt it, kind of like one of the options. ;)
For a couple of guys...
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I quite enjoyed the mixed GT season. Might have been because it was one of the last season's I've been able to do where I've only missed one or two races.
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The lotus was a annoying car to drive lol really twitchy and horrible on kerbs, id say people will have a harder time driving those hard in a race than the p1 or lafa
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We'll have some trial races in the front runners in the poll, and people can then go back and change their votes if they want to.
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I have a gt server up and ran a few of the cars the last few nights at Imola, Only GT3 and Evora GTC. The Evora is only about a second slower then the GT3 cars but is by far the hardest of them to drive quickly. The P1 and Laferrari are really quite simple to drive in comparison so anyone considering this may want to try that.
The The Lotus 2 eleven the slower guys will get the one that is much trickier to drive again and so will likely be slower for them in the GT4 then they would be in the regular 2 eleven. This pretty much means they wont get any real advantage in that car and will likely not like driving it so much. It will end up the same guys battling in the 2 eleven when it could be spiced up quite nicely with a few other cars that match up very closely.
I have a mixed server up with 2 eleven, KTM and m235i and just had a couple races with a few guys in all different cars. With just 4 of us in I think they were some of the best MP races Ive ever had, all 3 cars can lap near identical times but all done quite differently. At Vallelunga each car has its own strengths which are enough to pass all 3 quite easily in certain sections of track and this just continues on til the end of the race if drivers are fairly even. We only had 4 of us but were 3 and 4 wide at multiple sections of the race and id highly recommend people to give this combo a go. Looking at RSR wr times they are near identical at the tracks I looked at.
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I have to draw the line in the sand with options somewhere, or we'll be stuck in the land of the never-ending poll, and I have to balance all the little things I absorb all the time - "I don't like this, I don't like that" - meaning not everybody always likes the same thing. That's why there's 4 options in the poll, so people can just choose the one (or two) out of what's on offer that they like best. The racing always turns out better in practice after all the theorising is done. Even though some people don't like the current season 7 cars, for example, lots of people have said they've had excellent races, and that's what it's all about at the end of the day.
Personally, I'm quicker in the 2 Eleven GT4 than in the normal one, as are lap times averaged over hundreds of people, not just a few.
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I get that you've got to make decisions and get things rolling, but my 2 cents worth is that we went a little quickly from brainstorming ideas mode straight into poll mode (end of ideas mode, just vote). That was like not much more than a day, and I feel we could've got a more colourful list of options with a bit more time spent on that stage.
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I have to have a Arthroscopy on my left knee, so as long as its a car i can heel toe or not heavy left brake like the ferrari which kills me I will be happy :)
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I get that you've got to make decisions and get things rolling, but my 2 cents worth is that we went a little quickly from brainstorming ideas mode straight into poll mode (end of ideas mode, just vote). That was like not much more than a day, and I feel we could've got a more colourful list of options with a bit more time spent on that stage.
There's four perfectly good options to choose from, any one of which will give us good racing. The permutations are endless, and there will always be someone who wants something different, no matter what I put up.
Maybe I'll do things a little differently next season. I'm not one for going backwards.
I think I'll shorten the seasons a fraction too, say 6 rounds, so we can rotate through the infinite combinations a little more quickly and keep mixing it up.
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I have to have a Arthroscopy on my left knee, so as long as its a car i can heel toe or not heavy left brake like the ferrari which kills me I will be happy :)
I must be driving it wrong, I didnt know you had to lfb a ferrari. ;)
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you dont have to but, i seem to be better in it if i do