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Title: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Phil.8 on September 28, 2017, 03:53:50 PM
If anyone comes across a nicely priced GeForce GTX 1080 Ti in their interweb travels let me know please :)
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: buellersdayoff on September 28, 2017, 04:43:41 PM
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/search/node/Gtx%201080ti
A good place to start your search or keep an eye on and at least see what the best prices are/have been.
I buy imports usually brands like msi or asus that have a local warranty and register the device on their website. A lot of people recommend evga for their warranty but I've never bought any. Amazon, newegg and B&H photo are places I've used, just make sure you keep it under the $1000aud import limit. I'm using the MSI gaming x and can recommend it as a very quiet card.
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Phil.8 on September 29, 2017, 09:21:01 PM
I think I am going to get this one unless there is a reason I shouldn't that I don't know about yet
Gigabyte AORUS GeForce GTX1080 Ti Xtreme Edition
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/222642408386
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Wally on September 29, 2017, 09:47:47 PM
"AU $1,249.00"
Ow!
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: buellersdayoff on September 30, 2017, 05:25:19 AM
EBay just had 20% off tech from a couple of sellers (not the 18%) they do it quite regularly, futu_online, pcbyte are some of the sellers that are usually part of the sale.
Look here https://www.newegg.com/global/au/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=-1&IsNodeId=1&Description=gtx%201080ti&page=1&bop=And&PageSize=36&order=PRICE around $950 + plus postage to au is about $40.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170929/62b4ee62279148a844436dccc1135d9c.jpg)
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: buellersdayoff on September 30, 2017, 05:43:45 AM
If you prefer buying in AU a deal atm https://www.computeralliance.com.au/gigabyte-gtx1080ti-11gb-aorus-pcie-video-card-pn-gv-n108taorus-11gd
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Phil.8 on October 01, 2017, 01:43:56 PM
thanks, that computer alliance is a good deal 
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Phil.8 on October 02, 2017, 05:12:27 PM
Got one of these today
http://www.msy.com.au/qld/morningside/nvidia/18806-n-msi-gtx-1080-ti-sea-hawk-x-11g-gtx-1080-ti-sea-hawk-x-corsair-water-cooling-pci-e-vga-card.html

My 3dmark demo benchmark went from 4445 with the 980 to 8500, which put my pc in the top 96% of similar tested pc,  but I am think of returning it already as I have since learnt its just a founders board and has a slight coil whine.  Battlefield1 looked amazing on max settings and was around 130- 150 fps at 5760x1920 , get about 50 - 60 atm

Does anyone know if its a decent card or not as I cannot find any reviews or benchmarks or anything on it much and is that score is ok for a 1080ti and the coil noise is a bit annoying.
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Joe on October 02, 2017, 05:14:18 PM
Making me jealous!!  I have no idea. I just know I always stick with MSI.
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Phil.8 on October 02, 2017, 05:37:19 PM
The guy in the shop said he would only have msi also, and he claimed this one was one of the few that he had not had back yet due to problems.
I have taken it out atm because the shop said they will take it back if I like,  it ran nice and cool didn't get above 50degree in games or benchmarks,  I just don't want to have it if there is another that is better :)
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: buellersdayoff on October 02, 2017, 05:42:22 PM
Reference boards are fine, particularly water cooled ones, although personally I steer clear of all in one liquid coolers even for CPU's. Coil whine seems to be a "luck of the draw" thing and can happen to ANY card/make or model. Most people people return their coil whine cards within a few days if it doesn't go away after stress test/ run in. I've never used that benchmark but unigine superposition is free to download, results in pic. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171002/f67c90c7bac25fd697d36bda12c6b8b7.jpg)
https://goo.gl/photos/cFfGP5n6FvGs9VWs9
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Phil.8 on October 02, 2017, 05:45:11 PM
how come you steer clear of all in one liquid coolers, wish i had not taken out already to compare tests
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Phil.8 on October 02, 2017, 06:06:18 PM
I also, even if I keep this one or not have a gigabyte 980 for sale about 6 months old and runs cool and looks new :) if anyone interested in a cheap upgrade or interested in adding a bit of sli action to their setup :)
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Joe on October 02, 2017, 06:10:40 PM
I also, even if I keep this one or not have a gigabyte 980 for sale about 6 months old and runs cool and looks new :) if anyone interested in a cheap upgrade or interested in adding a bit of sli action to their setup :)

I was just about to ask you about that. My friend is looking to start sim racing and needs to buy everything including a PC so was gonna ask how much you wanted for your old card  ;D

EDIT: While talking about you selling stuff did you decide if you wanted to sell your V3s???  :o
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: buellersdayoff on October 02, 2017, 06:17:50 PM
how come you steer clear of all in one liquid coolers, wish i had not taken out already to compare tests
You can still return it. I have an old corsair liquid cpu cooler which has air in it (evaporation) and doesn't do the job well any more, it's normal for these things. Plus you can't really top them up. I went with a full custom loop with my pc when I had a 980ti but went air cooled on the 1080ti and kept the custom loop attached to the cpu only.
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: buellersdayoff on October 02, 2017, 06:52:21 PM
https://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/consumer-rights-guarantees/repair-replace-refund depending on store policy usually something like 14 day return or whatever. Failing that you have from the link above  repair, replace, return. I recently got a refund instead of replacement for a TV that crapped out within a month. So call the store be polite but firm and if you need to, push for refund or replacement stating consumer law on a major defect.

Is it definitely coil whine as in instant whine with graphics load, or possibly a noisy fan as it spins up with heat/time?
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Phil.8 on October 02, 2017, 06:58:08 PM
how come you steer clear of all in one liquid coolers, wish i had not taken out already to compare tests
You can still return it. I have an old corsair liquid cpu cooler which has air in it (evaporation) and doesn't do the job well any more, it's normal for these things. Plus you can't really top them up. I went with a full custom loop with my pc when I had a 980ti but went air cooled on the 1080ti and kept the custom loop attached to the cpu only.

I mean i wish i had not taken it out of my pc yet to compare to your results
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Phil.8 on October 02, 2017, 07:10:48 PM
He can buy my card if he like, no idea what they selling for though,    keeping the v3 as a spare I think ;)
 also have some old ram if any good to you in this day and age
https://www.gskill.com/en/product/f3-12800cl8d-8gbxm

Now someone tell me any reason why I shouldn't keep this card then, I think the water cooling will last me a year or 2 and then this will be old and replaced and unless there is another reason why

Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: buellersdayoff on October 02, 2017, 07:14:08 PM
The guy in the shop said he would only have msi also, and he claimed this one was one of the few that he had not had back yet due to problems.
I have taken it out atm because the shop said they will take it back if I like,  it ran nice and cool didn't get above 50degree in games or benchmarks,  I just don't want to have it if there is another that is better :)
Here I am posting all this and that, when I missed this post lol
how come you steer clear of all in one liquid coolers, wish i had not taken out already to compare tests
You can still return it. I have an old corsair liquid cpu cooler which has air in it (evaporation) and doesn't do the job well any more, it's normal for these things. Plus you can't really top them up. I went with a full custom loop with my pc when I had a 980ti but went air cooled on the 1080ti and kept the custom loop attached to the cpu only.

I mean i wish i had not taken it out of my pc yet to compare to your results
Most 1080ti's perform similarly. Gamers nexus have tested a bunch of them.
https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2905-asus-1080-ti-rog-strix-review-vs-ftw3-gaming-x?showall=1
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: buellersdayoff on October 02, 2017, 07:55:29 PM



Now someone tell me any reason why I shouldn't keep this card then, I think the water cooling will last me a year or 2 and then this will be old and replaced and unless there is another reason why

In all my posts I forgot to say that you probably only need to consider returning it if the issue bothers you that much, I personally have never noticed or experienced coil whine so I don't know. Going by what others have said on different forums (overclock.net for one) coil whine noises can sometimes go away after a while or some say it was actually their slightly older power supply that was whining when they upgraded to a more power straining gpu

Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Phil.8 on October 02, 2017, 08:23:04 PM
yeah read that, I have a 6 months old 1000watt corsair, that shouldn't cause it surely, and I have heard them way worse, its not enough alone for me to return it, its just if I am gonna spend that much might as well get the right one :)  but if they all perform the same and if I got lucky with the silicon , then this one might go as well as any out there
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Bruce on October 03, 2017, 09:04:20 AM
If your card isn't sold yet/promised, were you able to run AC with everything on max?
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Phil.8 on October 03, 2017, 11:24:26 AM
Joe was asking a mate of his if he wanted it, but if he doesn't you are second in line :) 
I was able to run everything at max at about 80 fps with a full grid to 120 fps just lapping on the practice server with 3 monitors apart from I turned pp off because I didn't like the looks of it and it made frames drop by about 20.
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Phil.8 on October 03, 2017, 05:49:22 PM
got this now, It has done 2000mhz exactly so far out of the box with no adjustments :) at idle it runs just as cool as the water cooled one and only like 5 or 10 degree more under load with a max so far of 67 degree
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/38246/asus-rog-strix-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-oc-11gb
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Bruce on October 03, 2017, 06:05:50 PM
Man that is a powerful looking card.
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: rooshooter on October 03, 2017, 06:11:03 PM
Interesting, I would have thought the water cooled option would be the best. Glad you are happy , nothing worse than a new bit of kit that does not measure up. I have been happy with my MSI 1080 TI Founders Edition, but I have not attempted any overclock as it can run at 84 deg C during a benchmark !!
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Phil.8 on October 03, 2017, 07:26:03 PM
my 980 is available
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: buellersdayoff on October 03, 2017, 07:37:28 PM
Nice one!
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Phil.8 on October 03, 2017, 10:43:58 PM
if you want the same car I got for 200 or 300 cheaper ebay have a deal now of course :)

https://www.ebay.com.au/rpp/clickandcollect?_trkparms=%26clkid%3D7935550178282314586
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: buellersdayoff on October 05, 2017, 09:08:25 AM
if you want the same car I got for 200 or 300 cheaper ebay have a deal now of course :)

https://www.ebay.com.au/rpp/clickandcollect?_trkparms=%26clkid%3D7935550178282314586
Bugger, here's a 3dmark firestrike extreme test. My card needs a small manual overclock to get up to 2000mhz otherwise clock speed sits around 1950mhz https://www.3dmark.com/fs/13561276
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Bruce on October 05, 2017, 09:26:19 AM
if you want the same car I got for 200 or 300 cheaper ebay have a deal now of course :)

https://www.ebay.com.au/rpp/clickandcollect?_trkparms=%26clkid%3D7935550178282314586
thanks Phil, nust have been a 24 hr discount
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: buellersdayoff on October 05, 2017, 10:57:49 AM
if you want the same car I got for 200 or 300 cheaper ebay have a deal now of course :)

https://www.ebay.com.au/rpp/clickandcollect?_trkparms=%26clkid%3D7935550178282314586
thanks Phil, nust have been a 24 hr discount
Deal is still on https://m.ebay.com.au/itm/Asus-nVidia-GeForce-GTX-1080-Ti-ROG-Strix-11GB-GDDR5X-Gaming-Graphics-Video-Card-/332234892289?_mwBanner=1
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Bruce on October 05, 2017, 01:56:29 PM
Thanks buell, ahh alas still out of my price range at the moment...
Me: "dear, can I have $1300 for a new card for PC, PLEASE?"
My dear wife: no verbal, points to pile of receipts for the FJ.
hehe
I was unsure of the discount, ahh well... I will keep an eye secondhand for one.
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: rooshooter on October 05, 2017, 02:02:45 PM
Thanks buell, ahh alas still out of my price range at the moment...
Me: "dear, can I have $1300 for a new card for PC, PLEASE?"
My dear wife: no verbal, points to pile of receipts for the FJ.
hehe
I was unsure of the discount, ahh well... I will keep an eye secondhand for one.
Phil's GTX 980 is for sale Bruce.
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Phil.8 on October 05, 2017, 02:17:30 PM
Thanks buell, ahh alas still out of my price range at the moment...
Me: "dear, can I have $1300 for a new card for PC, PLEASE?"
My dear wife: no verbal, points to pile of receipts for the FJ.
hehe
I was unsure of the discount, ahh well... I will keep an eye secondhand for one.
Phil's GTX 980 is for sale Bruce.

Its true  8)
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Bruce on October 05, 2017, 02:25:27 PM
okay, good thinking, i will check what is in my puter...
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Bruce on October 05, 2017, 03:51:47 PM
Thanks buell, ahh alas still out of my price range at the moment...
Me: "dear, can I have $1300 for a new card for PC, PLEASE?"
My dear wife: no verbal, points to pile of receipts for the FJ.
hehe
I was unsure of the discount, ahh well... I will keep an eye secondhand for one.
Phil's GTX 980 is for sale Bruce.

Its true  8)
okay I have a GTX 770

so question time:
what factor better is the 990 to the 770?
Will it fit in the same slot as the current 770?
I have a high output power box, so it should just use the same wiring?

sorry most of my hardware knowledge is old, worked with software too long :)
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Phil.8 on October 05, 2017, 04:53:30 PM
how many monitors do you use Bruce, and how does your current card cope with AC ?

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-980-vs-Nvidia-GTX-770/2576vs2174
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: rooshooter on October 05, 2017, 05:13:09 PM
Thanks buell, ahh alas still out of my price range at the moment...
Me: "dear, can I have $1300 for a new card for PC, PLEASE?"
My dear wife: no verbal, points to pile of receipts for the FJ.
hehe
I was unsure of the discount, ahh well... I will keep an eye secondhand for one.
Phil's GTX 980 is for sale Bruce.

Its true  8)
okay I have a GTX 770

so question time:
what factor better is the 990 to the 770?
Will it fit in the same slot as the current 770?
I have a high output power box, so it should just use the same wiring?

sorry most of my hardware knowledge is old, worked with software too long :)
If your PC case is a full tower it will fit no problems, the 980 is a lot longer than the 770 so if the HDD cage limits the length of GPU that may be a problem. I would also think you will need a 650 watt PSU and the 980 will require 2 x 12v  power cable plugs as well , so you will need adapters if not already on the existing power supply. It will be a huge improvement on your current card performance wise.
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Wally on October 05, 2017, 06:14:29 PM
I went from a 780 to a 980 (with triples), and the increase wasn't that massive. But the 780 was quite a beast for its generation. But from a 770, you should get quite a nice boost.
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Glen73 on October 11, 2017, 07:06:45 PM

my hardware knowledge is old, worked :)

I'm not that old!

I think from memory you have a smaller box, but luck has it I have a really big super duper tower here if you go down the 1070 path.  RX-580 is a nice card to think about if your still running single screen.
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Phil.8 on November 12, 2017, 10:13:58 PM
Who knows about monitors ? with 144Hz should I be looing at for example 1920x1080 http://www.msy.com.au/tas/glenorchy/peripherals/16463-aoc-24-g2460pf-1ms-1920x1080-144hz-free-sync-spk-has-d-sub-dl-dvi-hdmi-dp-gaming-monitor.html
or 2560x1440 https://www.pccasegear.com/products/36955/acer-predator-xb241h-24in-144hz-g-sync-gaming-monitor
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: buellersdayoff on November 12, 2017, 11:50:13 PM
Who knows about monitors ? with 144Hz should I be looing at for example 1920x1080 http://www.msy.com.au/tas/glenorchy/peripherals/16463-aoc-24-g2460pf-1ms-1920x1080-144hz-free-sync-spk-has-d-sub-dl-dvi-hdmi-dp-gaming-monitor.html
or 2560x1440 https://www.pccasegear.com/products/36955/acer-predator-xb241h-24in-144hz-g-sync-gaming-monitor
Single or triple? You'll want Gsync not freesync for your 1080ti, the first one you listed is designed for amd freesync. If you're sticking to the 24 inch or less 1080p resolution is fine, nice at super high refresh rate. If you're gonna go up to 27 inch or more then 1440p is a must in my opinion.
Have a look at this video https://youtu.be/GI2C7fPcZE0
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Phil.8 on November 13, 2017, 10:06:07 AM
triple,  I linked the wrong one first, was meant to be a g sync one,    I was thinking 3 x 27 inch at 1440 might make everything all skippy ? ,  even though it would probably be way nicer to view ?
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: rooshooter on November 13, 2017, 11:08:25 AM
triple,  I linked the wrong one first, was meant to be a g sync one,    I was thinking 3 x 27 inch at 1440 might make everything all skippy ? ,  even though it would probably be way nicer to view ?
Phil , you could test your FPS at the higher res by going into Nvidea Control Panel and setting DSR ( Dynamic Super Resolution) factor to x4 which will give the same RES as a 4K Monitor 3840 x 2160. Do a before and after test with AC benchmark. 3840x2160 =8,294,400  4K single screen total res.  2560x3=7680    7680x1440=11,059,200  triple screen res. This is a single monitor test but will give a good indication of your system abilities.
I am using a 55inch 4K UHD 200HZ TV as my monitor, that sits 75cm from my eyes, with Track IR5 that give me approx. another 90deg of vision. I am very impressed at the quality of the graphics it is virtually photo realistic and almost like looking through the windscreen of a real car.
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Joe on November 13, 2017, 11:24:51 AM
Saw this a while ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Mtx_NABJus

Looks like you could run 3 at 1440p pretty well but won't get the most from 144hz. Guess it comes down to whether you want 1440p or 144hz. I'd be curious what a 1080p 27" monitor looks like in a rig compared to 1440p. I'm also curious how much bigger 27s seem over 24s so let me know when you get yours  ;D
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: buellersdayoff on November 13, 2017, 11:33:34 AM
triple,  I linked the wrong one first, was meant to be a g sync one,    I was thinking 3 x 27 inch at 1440 might make everything all skippy ? ,  even though it would probably be way nicer to view ?
I have only one of these monitors in this video https://youtu.be/5Mtx_NABJus
At 1440p you might need to lower a few settings in some games but gsync will keep everything smooth as silk.
One concern for me (never used triples before) is connections, a quick search found this http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-3382892/asus-strix-1080-monitor-setup.html
If you can't daisy chain, I wouldn't have a clue, you'd be using two displayport and one hdmi reducing all monitors back to 60hz I think. Anyway that'd be something I'd investigate further if it were me, maybe a gpu with 3 displayport for high refresh rate?
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: buellersdayoff on November 13, 2017, 11:34:39 AM
Saw this a while ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Mtx_NABJus

Looks like you could run 3 at 1440p pretty well but won't get the most from 144hz. Guess it comes down to whether you want 1440p or 144hz. I'd be curious what a 1080p 27" monitor looks like in a rig compared to 1440p. I'm also curious how much bigger 27s seem over 24s so let me know when you get yours  ;D
Ha posted the same link lol
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Phil.8 on November 13, 2017, 02:54:20 PM
So triple when using a hdmi in the mix cant go above 60Hz ?  daisy chaining should be no issue with correct cables ?

I guess my real question should be is pixel count or refresh rate more important

or

144Hz in the centre monitor and 60Hz on the sides maybe, only problem is I do like to use triple in any game that it will work in and pubg is the only game I have atm that triples don't work in

how can buying a monitor be so hard :)
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Phil.8 on November 13, 2017, 04:31:22 PM
Thanks rooshooter , will give that a go
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: buellersdayoff on November 13, 2017, 06:05:05 PM
So triple when using a hdmi in the mix cant go above 60Hz ?  daisy chaining should be no issue with correct cables ?

I guess my real question should be is pixel count or refresh rate more important

or

144Hz in the centre monitor and 60Hz on the sides maybe, only problem is I do like to use triple in any game that it will work in and pubg is the only game I have atm that triples don't work in

how can buying a monitor be so hard :)
My understanding of the way it works is 1440p 60hz is limitation of the monitor/hdmi, and having all three monitors clocked the same is a limitation of nvidia surround. I could be wrong and it's worth digging into further, I'd hate to see someone buy 3 ~1000ish monitors and not get to use them to their full potential. One thing though is you'd still have gsync which is nice provided you get one with gsync over hdmi asus pg279q has it I think.
Partially the reason why I went a single ultra wide, the other reason is space lol
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: buellersdayoff on November 13, 2017, 06:19:02 PM
Oooh https://www.pccasegear.com/products/40647/samsung-c49hg90-49in-qled-ultra-widescreen-144hz-gaming-monitor
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: buellersdayoff on November 13, 2017, 06:43:57 PM
Current crop of 1440p gsync monitors have one displayport and one hdmi (I think daisy chain is out of the question), with the limiting factor of 60hz over hdmi. If you're ok with not having gsync and still have a high refresh then something like benq https://www.pccasegear.com/products/36324/benq-zowie-xl2730-27in-144hz-led-gaming-monitor might do the job. Or try to find 27inch 1080p gsync. Oooor 1080p high refresh no gsync.
I guess if your rig is mostly gaming then 1080p will be fine even at 27inch or so
One more link for good measure lol https://www.pccasegear.com/products/37080/viewsonic-xg3202-c-32in-curved-fast-action-144hz-gaming-monitor
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Joe on November 13, 2017, 07:34:05 PM
Based on zero experience with either 1440p or 144hz I'd say go 144hz. Gut feeling is you won't notice a huge difference between 1080p and 1440p but the smoothness of 144hz will be noiiiiiiiiiice. Of course I could just be talking shit and you should ignore me. Glad you're being the guinea pig here  ;D
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Phil.8 on November 13, 2017, 07:36:43 PM
so much to think about,  https://www.pccasegear.com/products/37080/viewsonic-xg3202-c-32in-curved-fast-action-144hz-gaming-monitor looks interesting and  I like the look of this also https://www.pccasegear.com/products/40647/samsung-c49hg90-49in-qled-ultra-widescreen-144hz-gaming-monitor
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Bird on November 13, 2017, 07:41:45 PM
The refresh rate is a bit of a personal difference/preference thing. 
Some people can genuinely see the difference between 60Hz and higher refresh rates, but a lot cannot.   I'd actually check it out first before pulling the pin - unless it does not matter.   

The other important aspect is usage.  There's no single great solution for everyone.   I prefer screen real estate, and I hate curved screens... hence my 43" 4k montior.  But I've used triples before, and for racing they're quite good (side-by-side).    Sadly the triple setup is not the best for anything else.  I also detest having only 1080 pixels vertically, I can't even fit an a4 page on it. 

Each to his own, I guess.

Edit: oh, and the issue with the widescreen setup, is that a lot of games don't like that kind of unusual aspect ratio.  So again: it all depends on usage.   Altho if you've triples, at least you can change the config to use a single screen.
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: rooshooter on November 13, 2017, 07:49:35 PM
Hi res like 4K is another level to graphics that has to be seen to be appreciated... I could never go back, for example the dash in the Panterra looks like it has just been treated with a vinyl restorer it is shiny and the level of detail on the guages on some cars, is amazing, you can read the manufacturing part numbers.
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Phil.8 on November 13, 2017, 08:58:13 PM
Based on zero experience with either 1440p or 144hz I'd say go 144hz. Gut feeling is you won't notice a huge difference between 1080p and 1440p but the smoothness of 144hz will be noiiiiiiiiiice. Of course I could just be talking shit and you should ignore me. Glad you're being the guinea pig here  ;D

You are probably right, I have no clue what is the best way to go,  I don't mind triples, I am used to them and love have my side monitors to put stuff on,    So I am thinking 3 x 27 inch at 144hz  but not sure :)  or 3 x 27 at 1440p,  I need to get into a shop and see some in person I think
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: buellersdayoff on November 13, 2017, 10:42:45 PM
The refresh rate is a bit of a personal difference/preference thing. 
Some people can genuinely see the difference between 60Hz and higher refresh rates, but a lot cannot.   I'd actually check it out first before pulling the pin - unless it does not matter.   

The other important aspect is usage.  There's no single great solution for everyone.   I prefer screen real estate, and I hate curved screens... hence my 43" 4k montior.  But I've used triples before, and for racing they're quite good (side-by-side).    Sadly the triple setup is not the best for anything else.  I also detest having only 1080 pixels vertically, I can't even fit an a4 page on it. 

Each to his own, I guess.

Edit: oh, and the issue with the widescreen setup, is that a lot of games don't like that kind of unusual aspect ratio.  So again: it all depends on usage.   Altho if you've triples, at least you can change the config to use a single screen.
I haven't had any problems ultra wide yet, most modern games are on to it, I think the biggest issue was that some in-game ui would look stretched but the game would run fine. I came across a website that had fixes for this type of issues so I don't think it's a problem (so far, never had to use any), could be if you run some older games. The games that don't support the wider resolutions probably don't support multi monitor and you'll have black bars on the side, no drama we watch movies like that on our tvs.
Also if I had to choose, I'd take the high refresh rate over higher pixel density, the smoothness in racing sims is great and if you can match your fps with refresh rate in online shooters it does help...a little
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Phil.8 on November 13, 2017, 11:00:15 PM
Current crop of 1440p gsync monitors have one displayport and one hdmi (I think daisy chain is out of the question), with the limiting factor of 60hz over hdmi. If you're ok with not having gsync and still have a high refresh then something like benq https://www.pccasegear.com/products/36324/benq-zowie-xl2730-27in-144hz-led-gaming-monitor might do the job. Or try to find 27inch 1080p gsync. Oooor 1080p high refresh no gsync.
I guess if your rig is mostly gaming then 1080p will be fine even at 27inch or so
One more link for good measure lol https://www.pccasegear.com/products/37080/viewsonic-xg3202-c-32in-curved-fast-action-144hz-gaming-monitor

Well if cant daisy chain and stuck at 60 hz I might as well go 1440p then it seems
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: buellersdayoff on November 14, 2017, 12:30:18 AM
Current crop of 1440p gsync monitors have one displayport and one hdmi (I think daisy chain is out of the question), with the limiting factor of 60hz over hdmi. If you're ok with not having gsync and still have a high refresh then something like benq https://www.pccasegear.com/products/36324/benq-zowie-xl2730-27in-144hz-led-gaming-monitor might do the job. Or try to find 27inch 1080p gsync. Oooor 1080p high refresh no gsync.
I guess if your rig is mostly gaming then 1080p will be fine even at 27inch or so
One more link for good measure lol https://www.pccasegear.com/products/37080/viewsonic-xg3202-c-32in-curved-fast-action-144hz-gaming-monitor

Well if cant daisy chain and stuck at 60 hz I might as well go 1440p then it seems
Yeah I think something like that benq, otherwise stick to 1080p https://www.pccasegear.com/pro...-27in-144hz-led-gaming-monitor 27inch 1440p 144hz may be the best all round, specs say it can do 144hz over hdmi 2.0. The only thing missing is gsync which saves you money, almost $300 per monitor. Be sure to check out reviews first just in case of some kinda kwirk/deal breaker (TN panel viewing angles). Keep an eye out for upcoming sales coming into Xmas period
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Bird on November 14, 2017, 09:10:56 AM
The refresh rate is a bit of a personal difference/preference thing. 
Some people can genuinely see the difference between 60Hz and higher refresh rates, but a lot cannot.   I'd actually check it out first before pulling the pin - unless it does not matter.   

The other important aspect is usage.  There's no single great solution for everyone.   I prefer screen real estate, and I hate curved screens... hence my 43" 4k montior.  But I've used triples before, and for racing they're quite good (side-by-side).    Sadly the triple setup is not the best for anything else.  I also detest having only 1080 pixels vertically, I can't even fit an a4 page on it. 

Each to his own, I guess.

Edit: oh, and the issue with the widescreen setup, is that a lot of games don't like that kind of unusual aspect ratio.  So again: it all depends on usage.   Altho if you've triples, at least you can change the config to use a single screen.
I haven't had any problems ultra wide yet, most modern games are on to it, I think the biggest issue was that some in-game ui would look stretched but the game would run fine. I came across a website that had fixes for this type of issues so I don't think it's a problem (so far, never had to use any), could be if you run some older games. The games that don't support the wider resolutions probably don't support multi monitor and you'll have black bars on the side, no drama we watch movies like that on our tvs.
Also if I had to choose, I'd take the high refresh rate over higher pixel density, the smoothness in racing sims is great and if you can match your fps with refresh rate in online shooters it does help...a little

Yeah, that's what I'm saying; each to his own :)
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: buellersdayoff on November 14, 2017, 09:30:29 AM
The refresh rate is a bit of a personal difference/preference thing. 
Some people can genuinely see the difference between 60Hz and higher refresh rates, but a lot cannot.   I'd actually check it out first before pulling the pin - unless it does not matter.   

The other important aspect is usage.  There's no single great solution for everyone.   I prefer screen real estate, and I hate curved screens... hence my 43" 4k montior.  But I've used triples before, and for racing they're quite good (side-by-side).    Sadly the triple setup is not the best for anything else.  I also detest having only 1080 pixels vertically, I can't even fit an a4 page on it. 

Each to his own, I guess.

Edit: oh, and the issue with the widescreen setup, is that a lot of games don't like that kind of unusual aspect ratio.  So again: it all depends on usage.   Altho if you've triples, at least you can change the config to use a single screen.
I haven't had any problems ultra wide yet, most modern games are on to it, I think the biggest issue was that some in-game ui would look stretched but the game would run fine. I came across a website that had fixes for this type of issues so I don't think it's a problem (so far, never had to use any), could be if you run some older games. The games that don't support the wider resolutions probably don't support multi monitor and you'll have black bars on the side, no drama we watch movies like that on our tvs.
Also if I had to choose, I'd take the high refresh rate over higher pixel density, the smoothness in racing sims is great and if you can match your fps with refresh rate in online shooters it does help...a little

Yeah, that's what I'm saying; each to his own :)
I don't know why I quoted you apart from pointing out that ultra wide isn't really problematic. For sure each to own, for me I tried to roll as much as I could into one, high refresh rate, high pixel count, I wanted ips for colours and viewing angles, gsync, also as much screen space as possible with out going to multi monitor, a hell of a lot to ask for and came up with the Acer predator X34. Would be awesome if I could have all that and a higher refresh rate (currently 100hz) and hdr lol...
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Bird on November 14, 2017, 10:30:39 AM
Just wait a few years; the monitor manufacturers want you to buy more, so they'll provide I'm sure.
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: buellersdayoff on November 14, 2017, 10:48:23 AM
Phil, before you pull the trigger on anything let's recap.
1. Single or triple *looks at gpu ports and their capabilities. 2x displayport & 2x hdmi 2.0
2. Do you want high resolution or is 1080p enough.
3. Do you want high refresh rate. (I can vouch for it, but as mentioned each to their own) if yes it rules out 4k.
4. Do you want variable refresh rate (gsync) I can vouch for that also but it adds $200+ to each monitor. Since most racing sims can maintain high frame rates above the monitors refresh rate gsync is not active, and same goes for shooters where you'd tune your games to run high fps anyway. Gsync is really only good for single player games or games that you aren't willing to dial back to maintain high fps.
5. Do you want IPS panels for colours and viewing angles or TN panels for ultra fast response times but compromise on viewing angles. IPS = 4ms, TN = 1ms

Just trying to help, I remember going through all this when shopping a year or two ago.
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: buellersdayoff on November 14, 2017, 10:53:37 AM
Just wait a few years; the monitor manufacturers want you to buy more, so they'll provide I'm sure.
Haha, I'm happy with what I have, although sometimes when I see triples a little question mark pops up...the question mark then leads me to VR, then I think about my cataract...viscous circles lol
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Phil.8 on November 14, 2017, 11:10:05 AM
Phil, before you pull the trigger on anything let's recap.
1. Single or triple *looks at gpu ports and their capabilities. 2x displayport & 2x hdmi 2.0
2. Do you want high resolution or is 1080p enough.
3. Do you want high refresh rate. (I can vouch for it, but as mentioned each to their own) if yes it rules out 4k.
4. Do you want variable refresh rate (gsync) I can vouch for that also but it adds $200+ to each monitor. Since most racing sims can maintain high frame rates above the monitors refresh rate gsync is not active, and same goes for shooters where you'd tune your games to run high fps anyway. Gsync is really only good for single player games or games that you aren't willing to dial back to maintain high fps.
5. Do you want IPS panels for colours and viewing angles or TN panels for ultra fast response times but compromise on viewing angles. IPS = 4ms, TN = 1ms

Just trying to help, I remember going through all this when shopping a year or two ago.
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Thanks very much , it is very helpful indeed  :) 

Never had gsync so I wont miss it and I usually own stuff that fps is not an issue ,  I would prefer higher refresh rate if I can run with 3 monitors and at least 24 inch prefer 27 and might as well go for 1440 also if going to spend money might as well get something decent :)
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Bird on November 14, 2017, 03:16:36 PM
Actually, can't you use the 4 displayPorts on 2x gfx cards to drive 3xmonitors all from dp at higher frequencies?
(I do not know this; over 60Hz is lost on me, never bought monitors like that)
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Bacchulum on November 14, 2017, 03:26:10 PM
No one uses 2 gfx cards anymore (except old skool soldiers like myself ;) )
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: buellersdayoff on November 14, 2017, 06:12:21 PM
Actually, can't you use the 4 displayPorts on 2x gfx cards to drive 3xmonitors all from dp at higher frequencies?
(I do not know this; over 60Hz is lost on me, never bought monitors like that)
Yes, or get a card that has 3 displayport https://www.ple.com.au/Products/627846/Galax-GeForce-GTX1080Ti-EXOC-White-11GB-GDDR5X Phils card is 2.5 slot wide meaning he wouldn't fit a second gpu unless the motherboard could accommodate them.
No one uses 2 gfx cards anymore (except old skool soldiers like myself ;) )
I concur
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: buellersdayoff on November 15, 2017, 09:30:04 AM
Phil, before you pull the trigger on anything let's recap.
1. Single or triple *looks at gpu ports and their capabilities. 2x displayport & 2x hdmi 2.0
2. Do you want high resolution or is 1080p enough.
3. Do you want high refresh rate. (I can vouch for it, but as mentioned each to their own) if yes it rules out 4k.
4. Do you want variable refresh rate (gsync) I can vouch for that also but it adds $200+ to each monitor. Since most racing sims can maintain high frame rates above the monitors refresh rate gsync is not active, and same goes for shooters where you'd tune your games to run high fps anyway. Gsync is really only good for single player games or games that you aren't willing to dial back to maintain high fps.
5. Do you want IPS panels for colours and viewing angles or TN panels for ultra fast response times but compromise on viewing angles. IPS = 4ms, TN = 1ms

Just trying to help, I remember going through all this when shopping a year or two ago.
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Thanks very much , it is very helpful indeed  :) 

Never had gsync so I wont miss it and I usually own stuff that fps is not an issue ,  I would prefer higher refresh rate if I can run with 3 monitors and at least 24 inch prefer 27 and might as well go for 1440 also if going to spend money might as well get something decent :)
If you aren't in a hurry to get something, there's more to look forward to next year https://www.144hzmonitors.com/technology/gaming-monitors-2018-roadmap-for-the-year/ but a long way off I guess. Currently the benq ticks the most boxes, reviews seem good, I just hope the TN panel viewing angles don't become an issue particularly with the two outer screens when running triple, if they all point to your viewing position then they should be ok. https://www.kitguru.net/peripherals/james-morris/benq-zowie-xl2730-gaming-monitor-review/
Other than that right now it's 1440p 60hz, which you could find some really nice IPS thin bezel panels or 1080p high refresh rate because of the gpu connections.
Sorry for my rambling posts, I get bored with not much to do when I'm away for work lol
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Phil.8 on November 15, 2017, 10:49:39 AM
Thanks,  I think its the benq also at the moment,  I don't see any 1440p 60Hz I like so far
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Phil.8 on November 15, 2017, 11:05:09 AM
All 1080,  Wonder if any good or not

https://www.jbhifi.com.au/computers-tablets/monitors/benq/benq-zowie-rl2755hm-27-full-hd-gaming-monitor/945807/ 

https://www.jbhifi.com.au/computers-tablets/monitors/benq/benq-zowie-xl2411-24-144hz-full-hd-gaming-monitor/980923/ 

https://www.jbhifi.com.au/computers-tablets/monitors/lg/lg-27mp59ht-27-full-hd-ips-led-gaming-monitor/441893/ 

Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: buellersdayoff on November 15, 2017, 06:14:54 PM
All 1080,  Wonder if any good or not

https://www.jbhifi.com.au/computers-tablets/monitors/benq/benq-zowie-rl2755hm-27-full-hd-gaming-monitor/945807/ 

https://www.jbhifi.com.au/computers-tablets/monitors/benq/benq-zowie-xl2411-24-144hz-full-hd-gaming-monitor/980923/ 

https://www.jbhifi.com.au/computers-tablets/monitors/lg/lg-27mp59ht-27-full-hd-ips-led-gaming-monitor/441893/
You can certainly use a freesync monitor so don't rule them out, it'll run at a fixed rate. Initially I thought you might be after a variable refresh rate which you'd need gsync. Do a quick search of ips vs tn they both have their pros and cons.
Edit; there is also VA panels, dang you've got a hard job right now lol
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Phil.8 on November 15, 2017, 06:59:29 PM
sigh
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: rooshooter on November 15, 2017, 07:28:13 PM
sigh
Glad it's you and not me Phil....I would not know which way to go :-\
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Phil.8 on November 15, 2017, 08:02:22 PM
1st world problems suck  :)
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: buellersdayoff on November 16, 2017, 12:40:59 AM
1st world problems suck  :)
This might be a bit better than the previous 1080p monitors you linked https://www.pccasegear.com/products/36624/aoc-agon-ag322fcx-31-5in-freesync-curved-gaming-monitor currently out of stock at pccasegear though
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Phil.8 on November 16, 2017, 11:51:18 AM
Yeah, I saw that and like it, only problem is my monitor stand takes 27inch max :(

I went into shops today and for me 144Hz seemed more impressive than 1440p

My choices are
https://www.jbhifi.com.au/computers-tablets/monitors/benq/benq-zowie-xl2411-24-144hz-full-hd-gaming-monitor/980923/   I like the price
https://www.jbhifi.com.au/computers-tablets/monitors/benq/benq-zowie-xl2430-24-144hz-full-hd-gaming-monitor/314280/
https://www.jbhifi.com.au/computers-tablets/monitors/benq/benq-zowie-xl2720-27-144hz-full-hd-gaming-monitor/351965/
https://www.jbhifi.com.au/computers-tablets/monitors/alienware/alienware-24-5-240hz-full-hd-gaming-monitor-with-freesync/329956/     has virtually no bezel
https://www.jbhifi.com.au/computers-tablets/monitors/benq/benq-zowie-xl2730-27-144hz-qhd-gaming-monitor/351966/     getting bit expensive seeing I need 3
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/34519/aoc-g2460pf-24in-144hz-freesync-gaming-led-monitor
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/38995/acer-xf240h-24in-144hz-freesync-widescreen-led-monitor
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/39965/asus-mg248qr-24in-fhd-freesync-144hz-gaming-monitor
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/37163/aoc-agon-ag241qx-23-8in-2k-144hz-freesync-gaming-monitor  - I think  I like this one
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/36955/acer-predator-xb241h-24in-144hz-g-sync-gaming-monitor
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/36278/aoc-agon-ag271qx-27in-freesync-144hz-gaming-monitor    And  I like this one
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Wally on November 16, 2017, 04:06:26 PM
What do you notice with 144 Hz? Is it just that much more of a solid image?
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Phil.8 on November 16, 2017, 04:24:03 PM
clearer and crisper is what I noticed
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: buellersdayoff on November 16, 2017, 04:45:45 PM
What do you notice with 144 Hz? Is it just that much more of a solid image?
Fluidity, smoothness. A few years ago I had a 1080p 120hz, while upgrading to 1440p I chose 60hz because I thought it wouldn't be an issue but it it felt like a slide show in comparison, I was used to 120hz. Some people may not notice it, if you're already 60hz it won't be an issue to stay at 60hz. Going backwards though... Aaand there is a reason why vr is 90hz minimum.

For fps shooters tuning your games to run at high frames that match the high refresh rate can help, if you look at frame times in msi afterburner you'll see they are smaller, as racers you'd all agree that even a millisecond advantage is enough to win, being able to use that advantage is another thing (for me lol)

Pixel response time, the lower the more "solid" the image, higher will be more ghosting. Good TN panels are 1ms response time, good IPS panels about 4ms. Some panels of various types can be as high as 15ms or more which can also be noticed by some people.
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: buellersdayoff on November 16, 2017, 04:59:55 PM
Here's some good info on this kind of stuff https://youtu.be/rs0PYCpBJjc
https://youtu.be/mVNRNOcLUuA
Thorough testing and he has good videos on things like net code in certain games
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: buellersdayoff on November 21, 2017, 08:08:45 AM
clearer and crisper is what I noticed
$300 with code PING20 https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F332395171948
game code included which you could sell? https://www.144hzmonitors.com/reviews/lg-24gm79g-preview-freesync-full-hd-144hz-gaming-monitor/ ticks a few boxes and in a decent budget, anyway probably a bit better than what you could get at JB for the money
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: buellersdayoff on November 21, 2017, 08:34:35 AM
https://m.ebay.com.au/itm/AOC-AGON-AG251FZ-24-5-Full-HD-Adaptive-Sync-240Hz-1MS-LED-Gaming-Monitor-AG2/222539863395?epid=573515639&hash=item33d068d563:g:8DEAAOSwQm9Zu1U7
$425 posted
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Phil.8 on November 21, 2017, 09:58:13 AM
That lg is very tempting, getsa god review as well,   the aoc is also at that price,  I like them both
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Joe on November 21, 2017, 11:04:35 AM
That lg is very tempting, getsa god review as well,   the aoc is also at that price,  I like them both

LG is only 24". Isn't part of your reason to upgrade to go to 27" ?
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Phil.8 on November 21, 2017, 11:32:27 AM
True,  But been thinking that 24x 3 is still big enough maybe
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Joe on November 21, 2017, 03:41:15 PM
I'd rather go bigger and keep 60hz. You'll get more fov.
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: rooshooter on November 21, 2017, 06:02:51 PM
I have just been re-reading my November copy of PC&Tech Authority which featured a test of several 27inch monitors and they recommend
the Samsung CFG70 monitor.
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Phil.8 on November 21, 2017, 06:31:42 PM
cool  I will look it up
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: buellersdayoff on November 22, 2017, 12:08:42 PM
cool  I will look it up
Might be a good balanced unit https://www.pccasegear.com/products/39963/asus-pb277q-27in-2k-wqhd-gaming-monitor 75hz 27inch 2560x1440, displayport hdmi dvi-d ports, only a couple available if you search the ebay sale though. Check out reviews too
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Phil.8 on November 22, 2017, 12:10:41 PM
cheers, looks good also,  now I need to decide :)
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Joe on November 23, 2017, 03:45:42 PM
cheers, looks good also,  now I need to decide :)

Good luck with that!  ;D
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: buellersdayoff on January 14, 2018, 08:32:50 AM
cheers, looks good also,  now I need to decide :)
EBay sale coming up https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/355112 have a look around at some of the ebay stores mentioned in the comments section and then see if they get discounted. Only thing is some of the sellers jack the prices a bit when these sales are on, but usually I've found that stuff still ends up a bit cheaper than stores like pccasegear.
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Phil.8 on January 14, 2018, 03:07:02 PM
cool thanks, will suss it out
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: buellersdayoff on January 22, 2018, 09:04:54 AM
cool thanks, will suss it out
Hadn't seen any really good deals, but my brother is checking out this one https://www.pccasegear.com/products/40988/viewsonic-va2719-2k-27in-widescreen-ips-monitor
Seems like a pretty cheap way to get into 27inch 1440p triples, I had originally overlooked it because of the 14ms response time but apparently it has a game mode for 5ms which brings it in line with most other ips panels
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Bird on January 22, 2018, 10:47:32 AM
I just thought this might be of interest for anyone thinking of upgrading nowadays :/

https://www.techspot.com/article/1561-build-a-pc-bad-idea-ddr4-memory/
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: buellersdayoff on January 22, 2018, 08:41:53 PM
I just thought this might be of interest for anyone thinking of upgrading nowadays :/

https://www.techspot.com/article/1561-build-a-pc-bad-idea-ddr4-memory/
Bad times for getting into new gaming PC's
Title: Re: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Post by: Phil.8 on January 22, 2018, 08:51:11 PM
That is interesting