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Title: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Wally on June 13, 2017, 10:03:03 PM
RACE RESULTS (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2017/06/s17r4-lotus-exos-125-at-spa.html)
SEASON STATS (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nu52lWM6_TIRBEGCTF32BxLe8mobfsCFpd_wOeuxpXI/edit#gid=1616435994)

Penalties
Race 1
A tough one off the line – Slow_As was a bit slow, Doobs baulked a bit to avoid him, and Dave O ran into the back of Doobs. I think that was really just a racing incident, almost a penalty.

Then again, Slow_As was slow on the inside of La Source (T1), and probably didn’t see Dave O appear from the left to make the corner which was congested. Again, a racing incident due to being unsighted.

Race 2
Bacchulum ran into the back of KeRo, spinning him off the track, so gets a penalty.

Round Points
Kcender87   62
Jeremy   62
Shayne   54
Mael   54
Phil.8   54
Matthew111   52
Seanus   49
Freezer   49
ab156   45
Wally   45
Joe   44
Slow_As   44
Simone   43
AJ   37
Bacchulum   36
Doobs   36
Grat   32
Dave O   28
Chap111   28
DJB   28
Gratulin   18
KeRo   16

Congratulations to Matthew for pole position and fastest lap in race 1, Grat and Kcender for the race wins, and Jeremy and KCender for a tie for round honours.

Season Podium
1. Matthew111, 132
2. Kcender87, 127
3. Jeremy, 121

No change in standings.

Teams
1.    Struggle Street Racing Crew    361
2.    Infinity+1    204
3.    Krahl Racing    201

Infinity+1 (Shayne and Seanus) swap spots with Krahl Racing (Joe and Phil), in what's shaping up to be a close team rivalry.
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Slow_As on June 13, 2017, 10:09:29 PM

I was very happy with a 1.58.6 on the practice server with the restrictor - but unfortunately that pace was not available come qualifying...

Race 1 - so so qual - had forgotten how to take some corners and not push on others....
kept nose clean :) and ended with a good dice with Gratulin - nearly made the most of a mistake then I made one the next corner - and he got away - but still great fun racing. - had 25% restrictor

Race 2 - no 25 % restrictor and lots of speed, but took some rear down force out and nearly landed in the local hospital with a lose at Eau Rouge.... Somehow caught it, then a stupid mistake at that last silly little chicane resulted in a  spin and much red mist - drove very hard chasing Freezer but could not pass, last lap and 1-3 cars ahead must of tangled or something as I snuck past a couple of people - held on to ??8th on the last lap then went over the line with a car glued to the front and rear wing - great racing.
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Joe on June 13, 2017, 10:16:55 PM
Qually a bit slower than I hoped due to mistakes and traffic. Started 6th.

Race one I gained a spot on Phil by Eu Rouge as I backed off a little for whoever was infront of me and Phil also backed off a bit and I was able to put my foot down. Was behind Jeremy and Kero for a few laps with them having a good battle but Kero lost it into the barrier unfortunately. I was being extra cautious not get cuts after round 1 and Jeremy started to pull away. After the pit stop be was quite far ahead and the gap behind was quite big so I just kept it clean. Matthew's incident gifted me 3rd.

Race two started quite well, lap 3 I got a much better exit through La Source than Jeremy who was infront and my DRS went green. I kept the pedal down but they realised I was going a fair bit quicker than him and eased off a touch on the second apex of Eu Rouge which send me skidding sideways. I almost caught it but came back over to the left into the barrier with red engine, wings and steering broken. Just as I came to a halt the DRS app beeped  ;D I had to teleport back to the pits to be given a 5 minute penalty and came out I guess two laps down I guess finishing last.
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: grat on June 13, 2017, 10:24:25 PM
Quali: was very happy with second place, having seen Phil and others were very fast in practice. Had two almost-clean laps and had no chance to get to Matthew's times anyway.

Race 1: I had a good fight with Matthew the first 2 laps, but there was no point trying to fight him as he was much faster. I thought to stay at a reasonable distance (say 3 or so seconds) in case he had a problem, but mostly kept my eyes on Jeremy, who was 2 or 3 seconds behind me and regularly lapping on very similar times.. When Jeremy went to the pits I pushed very hard that lap and pitted as well. Then Matthew went in just after me and re-joined at roughly the same distance. I think he got surprised by the cold tyres and made a mistake. There was a moment of panic when a lapped car and I arrived where he crashed, but I had enough time to lift and move over. From then on, I kept looking at Jeremy's gap and tried to keep it constant. Grat race, Jeremy!

Race 2: mostly clean start, but touched lightly Matthew braking into t1. Sorry, mate. Perhaps you were going even more prudent than I was, as my pushed actually seemed to have gained you a position ;) Sorry anyway. Then I got out of Radillon faster than Phil ahead of me, but we went 3 wide and I chickened out of it before the braking point and let them go. At the end of the lap Phil went all defensive into the last chicane and I had a go on the outside, as it actually is pretty tricky to get the inner kerb there. In fact he spun and I passed. Then I was following I think Shayne for a few corners and could not find a space to pass while I was much faster through Bruxelles-unnamed-Puhon. I thought I really had passed him at the right-left S, but from the replay I see that I closed him too much. MY FAULT! Sorry. I spun and lost the rear wing. When then somebody was passing me at Radillon, I tried to stay on the inside without rear wing and... well, you can imagine. There was very little left of the car. They airlifted me to Liege Hospital, but thankfully it was nothing too bad and I could watch the end of the race in tv!

:)
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: grat on June 13, 2017, 10:42:24 PM
I know we tried once to have points not based on a 32-1-1-1-1-1... Some people complained a lot. But I have to admit it feels a bit funny to be 17th of the round after winning the feature race in an F2 weekend ;)
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: kcender87 on June 13, 2017, 11:02:46 PM
Q1 and R1

Had 25% sock in the intake so ran williams spec slippery low downforce set (literally 0 rear wing) to try to find some speed on the straights. Sadly with the wind blowing another way, I lost any wind based assistance in sector 2 and all the high downforce sets gains some help in 1 and 3 putting me well off the pace.

It was all for the best though delivering a 16 lap battle with Phil - we were swapping positions every lap (more than once per lap often) and managed to run side by side through every turn but for Eau Rouge and Pouhon - ended in a drag to the line out of the final new bus stop with the grip going to phil on the outside line - best racing ive had in a long time - bumped wheels a few times which was great too.

R2

Took that sock out of the intake and magically changed the direction of the wind and the car was a rocket - 303 up Kemmel with no DRS and fair grip in sector 2. Massive run out of Raidillon on lap one grabbed the lead and was luckily able to hold it.

Great week- thanks for the race fellas

Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: AJ on June 13, 2017, 11:08:43 PM
Not trying to get anybody in trouble, but are there any penalties for adding fuel?
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Wally on June 13, 2017, 11:15:18 PM
I know we tried once to have points not based on a 32-1-1-1-1-1... Some people complained a lot. But I have to admit it feels a bit funny to be 17th of the round after winning the feature race in an F2 weekend ;)
That's only because you weren't classified as a finisher in race 2 and so got no points.

Hey Shayne, I watched the race 1 replay. To me, it looked like I was driving more or less on the racing line which is the left of the straight and you just ran out of room attempting to pass on the left. I might have been able to be more observant with Helicorsa and see you approaching from the left rear and given you more room.

And Simone, on the 2nd last lap in race 2, I was on the racing line and you really just punted me in the rear before you got any overlap. But no biggie, we had some excellent racing with some good passing which made up for it :)

I couldn't qualify for the life of me. I couldn't get a lap better than 2:00.x. I kept stuffing up the laps. But I did get a really good start off the line, passing a couple of very slow cars before La Source.

The only downer in race 1 was spinning on a kerb which saw me drop a few spots. But then it also made me nervous around the kerbs. Overall though, I really enjoyed the round, having lots of close racing, and taking out the Hunter award for race 2 for my relentless battle with Simone's red Ferrari.
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Wally on June 13, 2017, 11:18:17 PM
Not trying to get anybody in trouble, but are there any penalties for adding fuel?
I think it was just an innocent mistake. KeRo added 8 litres in race 1.
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Slow_As on June 13, 2017, 11:20:55 PM
Penalties
Race 1
A tough one off the line – Slow_As was a bit slow, Doobs baulked a bit to avoid him, and Dave O ran into the back of Doobs. I think that was really just a racing incident, almost a penalty.

Then again, Slow_As was slow on the inside of La Source (T1), and probably didn’t see Dave O appear from the left to make the corner which was congested. Again, a racing incident due to being unsighted.


But I've tried being fast and then I get penalties :( .... Racing incidents for sure - I'd be a bit sad if the issue in race 2 got me another penalty - my car cannot disappear. Anyway on to the next one
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: grat on June 13, 2017, 11:21:31 PM
I know we tried once to have points not based on a 32-1-1-1-1-1... Some people complained a lot. But I have to admit it feels a bit funny to be 17th of the round after winning the feature race in an F2 weekend ;)
That's only because you weren't classified as a finisher in race 2 and so got no points.
Wally: I do not want to make any polemics, but it is not "only because you weren't classified..." It is because I was not classified and because instead of a 10,6,4... or a 25,18,15 system, we have a 32,31,30 system, in which arriving 16th twice is as good as winning one and DNF another ;)
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Wally on June 13, 2017, 11:22:08 PM
Penalties
Race 1
A tough one off the line – Slow_As was a bit slow, Doobs baulked a bit to avoid him, and Dave O ran into the back of Doobs. I think that was really just a racing incident, almost a penalty.

Then again, Slow_As was slow on the inside of La Source (T1), and probably didn’t see Dave O appear from the left to make the corner which was congested. Again, a racing incident due to being unsighted.

But I've tried being fast and then I get penalties :( .... Racing incidents  :)
I could see you were being cautious at La source, which is better than barrelling in too fast for sure :)
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Wally on June 13, 2017, 11:24:04 PM
I know we tried once to have points not based on a 32-1-1-1-1-1... Some people complained a lot. But I have to admit it feels a bit funny to be 17th of the round after winning the feature race in an F2 weekend ;)
That's only because you weren't classified as a finisher in race 2 and so got no points.
Wally: I do not want to make any polemics, but it is not "only because you weren't classified..." It is because I was not classified and because instead of a 10,6,4... or a 25,18,15 system, we have a 32,31,30 system, in which arriving 16th twice is as good as winning one and DNF another ;)
I did think a bit about this before the season, because the real F2 does something like only giving points to the top 10, with a pretty heavy weighting to the higher positions. I think a close "-1-1-1-1" type scoring tends to mix it up a bit more, making the championship leaders a little more catchable.
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: grat on June 13, 2017, 11:33:20 PM
I know we tried once to have points not based on a 32-1-1-1-1-1... Some people complained a lot. But I have to admit it feels a bit funny to be 17th of the round after winning the feature race in an F2 weekend ;)
That's only because you weren't classified as a finisher in race 2 and so got no points.
Wally: I do not want to make any polemics, but it is not "only because you weren't classified..." It is because I was not classified and because instead of a 10,6,4... or a 25,18,15 system, we have a 32,31,30 system, in which arriving 16th twice is as good as winning one and DNF another ;)
I did think a bit about this before the season, because the real F2 does something like only giving points to the top 10, with a pretty heavy weighting to the higher positions. I think a close "-1-1-1-1" type scoring tends to mix it up a bit more, making the championship leaders a little more catchable.
Sure, no worries. It's all good. Maybe we can all have a discussion for another season like this. I know people don't like not making points, but we could device a system which gives point to, say, the first 15 or 20, and most people will make point at each race. All you need is start big, like
1. 40
2. 28
3. 22
4. 18
5. 15
6. 13
7. 12
8. 11
9. 10
10. 9
11. 8
12. 7
13. 6
14. 5
15. 4
16. 3
17. 2
18. 1

BTW: I realize that while I can't be of any use setting servers and things like that, I should offer myself for helping with organizational things, counting points, watching replays and so on. Hell, I can do that even on those 2 or 3 months a year I am away and can't race. It would make me feel "closer" to the group

EDIT: PS: I think F2 also gives more points for the feature race ;)
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: djb1974 on June 14, 2017, 12:33:08 AM
Hey guys thanks for letting me race with you guys tonight.

I got some small practice time for an hour or so over the weekend, so didnt have a car set up much, more than the a camber change and some pressure changes, so knew i wasnt going to be super fast, but then im never super fast on a good day!! LOL.  Qualled last, but i got a really good start off the line and had to lift very early as others hadnt got a good start, chose the wide outside line to try and be safe and not hit any 1 in T1.  after that every 1 pulled away nicely, i had damaged my front wing so pitted on lap 4.  was surprised on the last couple of laps i was able to race for positions amongst the front runners as there were some other back markers there.  10 cut laps i think i got with 3 x 10sec penalties. some in really crazy spots for going too wide taking the long way around and being pinged for it, lol. i didnt finish last on track across the line, but the extra penalties probably pushed me back.

Race 2 and i was on the inside line, another great start but really had nowhere to go, slight tap into the back of AJ on T1 under brakes, sorry mate but managed to stay with the rear of the pack mostly.  missed all the chaos up front,  but did notice my position climbing higher. Under pressure in the last few laps i gave up some easy spots spinning at the Bus Stop a couple of times cost me big time.

Enjoyed myself, thanks guys!!
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: AJ on June 14, 2017, 01:00:55 AM
No worries about the tap mate, it happens, and it did me no harm :)
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: ab156 on June 14, 2017, 07:29:06 AM
Firstly, I am really enjoying this car, track selection and organisation.  Wally does a great job and I think the strong numbers are a great thing.

The lower track grip in practice and qualifying caught me out a little, but I was happy to qualify in the top 10 against such a strong field.

Race 1 was a good finish in he top 10.  The first 3 laps were pretty intense and exciting.  It is great to race clean with so many different people.  I was running pretty high downforce as part of my "keep it clean and finish" strategy so was a bit of a siting duck in the DRS zone and coming into the last chicane.  Let a few people past before taking a planned early stop to drop myself into clean track.  Had an uneventful last ten laps, gradually making up places as other pitted to finish pretty much where I started.  Last few laps had some great clean racing with Shayne, had to take the defensive line on Kemmel straight a few times and really push to get out of DRS. Good fun.

Race 2, 2nd on the grid after the reverse.  Got a nice clean start from the outside, left plenty of room on he inside so Kcender got past into second.  Something happened behind so the top three had a 3 second gap into Eau Rouge.  Stuck it inside Shayne at Rivage in some more clean racing - now in 2nd.  Knew I was out of position pace wise so set about setting safe consistent laps to try and maximise the gap and hopefully get a top 5.  Matthew111 zoned in on me so I let him by and lost a bit of time, ended up in a 3 way duel down Kemmel with Shayne and Matthew111 under DRS, intense 10 seconds.  Settled into 3rd with a decent gap behind, an unlikely podium looked possible. Came aound Stavelot at full pace to find someone rejoining the track perpendicular to the race direction in front of the entire field - no where to go, made contact, spun to the inside wall hard, waited for everyone to pass, car was damaged, pitted and rolled around for the finish at the back of the pack.

Pretty frustrated that there is plenty of chat and pressure put on the back markers about being lapped and staying out of the way yet people just roll back onto the racing line in a blind high speed corned from 2 car lengths in the sand....

Anyway, next week the team will have a repaired car and we will try again.
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Wally on June 14, 2017, 07:34:57 AM
Hey guys thanks for letting me race with you guys tonight.

I got some small practice time for an hour or so over the weekend, so didnt have a car set up much, more than the a camber change and some pressure changes, so knew i wasnt going to be super fast, but then im never super fast on a good day!! LOL.  Qualled last, but i got a really good start off the line and had to lift very early as others hadnt got a good start, chose the wide outside line to try and be safe and not hit any 1 in T1.  after that every 1 pulled away nicely, i had damaged my front wing so pitted on lap 4.  was surprised on the last couple of laps i was able to race for positions amongst the front runners as there were some other back markers there.  10 cut laps i think i got with 3 x 10sec penalties. some in really crazy spots for going too wide taking the long way around and being pinged for it, lol. i didnt finish last on track across the line, but the extra penalties probably pushed me back.

Race 2 and i was on the inside line, another great start but really had nowhere to go, slight tap into the back of AJ on T1 under brakes, sorry mate but managed to stay with the rear of the pack mostly.  missed all the chaos up front,  but did notice my position climbing higher. Under pressure in the last few laps i gave up some easy spots spinning at the Bus Stop a couple of times cost me big time.

Enjoyed myself, thanks guys!!
Good to have you here and that you enjoyed yourself!


The cut track warnings are more for simply "leaving the track limits" rather than actual time gaining cuts.
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Wally on June 14, 2017, 07:44:42 AM
Firstly, I am really enjoying this car, track selection and organisation.  Wally does a great job and I think the strong numbers are a great thing.


Thanks AB :)


Yes, it's certainly worth reminding everyone to be patient and re-enter safely after a spin. I know you're probably seeing a bit of red mist and in a hurry to regain spots, but check your track map etc and don't stuff up anyone else's race.
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Wally on June 14, 2017, 07:47:37 AM

BTW: I realize that while I can't be of any use setting servers and things like that, I should offer myself for helping with organizational things, counting points, watching replays and so on. Hell, I can do that even on those 2 or 3 months a year I am away and can't race. It would make me feel "closer" to the group

About the only thing I don't have time for is watching replays and looking for penalties on laps after lap 1. But that's a really big task. There are tools that help you find where incidents happened, but it's still a lot of work.
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: grat on June 14, 2017, 08:37:53 AM

BTW: I realize that while I can't be of any use setting servers and things like that, I should offer myself for helping with organizational things, counting points, watching replays and so on. Hell, I can do that even on those 2 or 3 months a year I am away and can't race. It would make me feel "closer" to the group

About the only thing I don't have time for is watching replays and looking for penalties on laps after lap 1. But that's a really big task. There are tools that help you find where incidents happened, but it's still a lot of work.
Perhaps drivers could send me a private message saying "can you have a look at driver-driver crash at tX in lap Y?". We are all honest people who normally offer to be penalized if we have made a mistake, so most likely the likely-to-be-guilty party would be the one offering. Of course, this is not something I could do when I am away, but can do when I am here.

In any case, any help you would like, just ask.
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: KeRo on June 14, 2017, 09:07:24 AM
Not trying to get anybody in trouble, but are there any penalties for adding fuel?
I think it was just an innocent mistake. KeRo added 8 litres in race 1.

Thanks Wally, that's right.. Not sure how the whole pits thing works, I set up my pit strategy to add no fuel then I pitted and it still added it.... If anyone could let me know how to pit properly that would be greatly appreciated ;)

On to my races:

Firstly, thanks for the races everyone! Even though I had a shocker in both races I really enjoyed the night.

Not much to summarise really,

Race One: Started fairly well but struggled to get heat in the tyres so was really hard to keep a consistent pace. On lap 4 came out of turn 9 and got on the gas a bit early thus putting myself in the wall.

Race Two: Started near the back of the grid, was a clean start and was making up time on the car in front coming into turn 10 but was probably a bit deep under breaks when the door was closed, made slight contact with the car in front and went into the barrier.

Morale of the story, I still have a lot to learn when it comes to actually racing, not just hot lapping... So I hope you can all bare with me (and help please) while I learn the finer art of racing ;)

Quick question, was the race server set up the same as the practice server? I had a pretty good setup on the practice server, but when I came to the race server I pretty much had to rush to fix my setup to make it work, and I struggled big time....   
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: grat on June 14, 2017, 09:12:49 AM
Hey Shayne, I watched the race 1 replay. To me, it looked like I was driving more or less on the racing line which is the left of the straight and you just ran out of room attempting to pass on the left. I might have been able to be more observant with Helicorsa and see you approaching from the left rear and given you more room.
Got curious, so I went to check the replay. To be completely pedantic, at the moment his front wing crosses your rear wheels (definition of overlap in open-wheel racing, as far as I know), there is still a whole car space on your left. So on this basis, you should in theory leave that car space for the rest of the straight.

As a reference, whether there was a complete car space at overlapping between Rosberg and Hamilton was the whole point of discussion about last year's Barcelona crash. That said, if Wally was Verstappen, then the steward would have probably said it was good racing ;)

But I think Wally did not notice Shayne overlapping and he was on a trajectory moving left, so that the space closed. Congrats to Shayne for holding it together on the grass, though. I would have spun and take both cars out!
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: grat on June 14, 2017, 09:20:12 AM
Quick question, was the race server set up the same as the practice server? I had a pretty good setup on the practice server, but when I came to the race server I pretty much had to rush to fix my setup to make it work, and I struggled big time....
There was a lot less grip until the last laps of race 1 (and again for the whole race 2). This is because the practice server is usually set to 100% grip, while races start with 96% or so and grip at Spa builds very slowly (fewer laps per same amount of time).

Also wind changed compared to Saturday/Sunday, which made a few bits better (mostly the Bus Stop braking) and some worse (mostly Les Combes, for me).

Anyway, I think you are doing very well. I don't know about others, but my first races were much worse, and I still have huge problems in traffic with cars like these, as you can very well see ;)
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Wally on June 14, 2017, 10:09:53 AM
Yes, there's a lot of variability now, which tests your adaptability, just like for real racing drivers. Grip, temperature and wind can all be slightly different in the race, so you have to adapt to the changing conditions.
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Mael on June 14, 2017, 10:56:08 AM
I know we tried once to have points not based on a 32-1-1-1-1-1... Some people complained a lot. But I have to admit it feels a bit funny to be 17th of the round after winning the feature race in an F2 weekend ;)

I'm a fan of our current points settings as it places a premium on finishing. It discourages heroic, desperate passing maneuvers that have a high chance of ending in an accident. Its better for a driver to leave enough space for clean racing rather than risk an accident and a subsequent DNF.

As for the races, two very enjoyable races, lots of passes and being passed  ;D. Did one dive bomb on my team mate on the last chicane last lap, was not successful bit it did force him into a mistaken DRS activation  ;D. Race two was a race long battle with Shayne, he had fantastic drive out of corners and it took me a long time to make a pass stick!
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Wally on June 14, 2017, 11:16:04 AM
But I think Wally did not notice Shayne overlapping and he was on a trajectory moving left, so that the space closed. Congrats to Shayne for holding it together on the grass, though. I would have spun and take both cars out!
That's it, really. I didn't know Shayne was there and should have noticed him on Helicorsa.


KeRo you're not using the old PitConfig app, are you? If you are, you should ditch that and just rely on AC's pitstop strategy.
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Shayne on June 14, 2017, 11:45:56 AM
Last night was quite an enjoyable round. Lots of passing with and without DRS. I had a good battle with ab in race 1 and also had a good battle with Freezer in race 1 as well. I was fortunate to have made a gap to Freezer after the pitstop otherwise that could of been a race long battle.
Race 2 I had pole position but that didn't last long at all, kcender was on a mission and flew passed me on kemmel straight on lap 1. I was being swamped at the start of this race, faster guys just trying to make an early move. Phil actually overtook me a couple times and they were very brave but also very good overtakes. Unfortunely grat and I touched but it didn't really effect my race at all, his mistake cost him a lot though. I had a good long battle with Mael in the second race, that was really good fun! You got away from me in the end though, good racing mate.

I don't mind about that incident with you Wally, just like to call you out on things because you know, your the boss and all :D

I didn't get much practice for this round, I had to make quite a few changes to the shared team setup that had gone around. I don't know how you drive that Bacc!

Last night was the first time I had used Oculus Rift in AC, actually just got it delivered last Friday and had used it in iracing on the weekend for the 24hr lemans. It was quite an experience to have VR running last night in the close battles that I was involved in. Really exciting stuff!
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: grat on June 14, 2017, 12:04:20 PM
Last night was the first time I had used Oculus Rift in AC, actually just got it delivered last Friday and had used it in iracing on the weekend for the 24hr lemans. It was quite an experience to have VR running last night in the close battles that I was involved in. Really exciting stuff!
Cool! You mind me asking what GPU you are using and how it goes with Oculus? I have a 980 and I fear it would not be enough...
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Freezer on June 14, 2017, 12:04:43 PM
Did one dive bomb on my team mate on the last chicane last lap, was not successful bit it did force him into a mistaken DRS activation  ;D. Race two was a race long battle with Shayne, he had fantastic drive out of corners and it took me a long time to make a pass stick!
Not quite, I actually got the penalty on Lap 1... :)
As for my races, I ran the red bull setup so was able to run hard through the bends and surprisingly was still able to hold out most DRS attacks up the straight,
possibly due to some gearing changes and ringing its neck in 5th through Au Rouge.
Cant remember all the details but had good battles with Shayne, Mael, Seanus.  A small spin at the end of Kemmel Straight after catching the kerb was one of few mistakes for an overall good night and finally
a decent amount of points.
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Joe on June 14, 2017, 12:18:22 PM
Last night was the first time I had used Oculus Rift in AC, actually just got it delivered last Friday and had used it in iracing on the weekend for the 24hr lemans. It was quite an experience to have VR running last night in the close battles that I was involved in. Really exciting stuff!
Cool! You mind me asking what GPU you are using and how it goes with Oculus? I have a 980 and I fear it would not be enough...

From my understanding you'd be ok. You'd probably have to turn a few settings down to get the 90fps, but AC isn't really that demanding on GPU.
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: kcender87 on June 14, 2017, 12:41:27 PM
Last night was the first time I had used Oculus Rift in AC, actually just got it delivered last Friday and had used it in iracing on the weekend for the 24hr lemans. It was quite an experience to have VR running last night in the close battles that I was involved in. Really exciting stuff!
Cool! You mind me asking what GPU you are using and how it goes with Oculus? I have a 980 and I fear it would not be enough...

From my understanding you'd be ok. You'd probably have to turn a few settings down to get the 90fps, but AC isn't really that demanding on GPU.

Yep - I second that - Rift here too but running on gtx970 - whack most of the setting down as I find it less important to read signs and count blades of grass than having silky 90fps - 980 will be fine sir
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Shayne on June 14, 2017, 01:07:21 PM
Last night was the first time I had used Oculus Rift in AC, actually just got it delivered last Friday and had used it in iracing on the weekend for the 24hr lemans. It was quite an experience to have VR running last night in the close battles that I was involved in. Really exciting stuff!
Cool! You mind me asking what GPU you are using and how it goes with Oculus? I have a 980 and I fear it would not be enough...

From my understanding you'd be ok. You'd probably have to turn a few settings down to get the 90fps, but AC isn't really that demanding on GPU.

Yep - I second that - Rift here too but running on gtx970 - whack most of the setting down as I find it less important to read signs and count blades of grass than having silky 90fps - 980 will be fine sir

I don't really know, I have a 1080 but these guys seem to say you'll be ok so I'd say go with their opinion :)
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Matthew111 on June 14, 2017, 04:07:42 PM
I shouldnt drive when i have been up since 5am on 5hrs sleep lol, surprised i got pole i wasnt happy with any of my laps.

Race 1: Got past grat after he got me lap 1, was looking good and i bumped the drs button... so i assumed i needed a 5 sec gap so i pushed pretty hard all race got it too 4.5 when i pitted. Came out the pits behind a lapped car went to overtake it at the hairpin but the gap disappeared and i clipped them trying to pull out and it put me into a spin. then i think chap found my stranded car and he watched me struggle to find reverse lol and that was the end of that race so came 4th or something.

Race 2: Got hit into t1 from behind got wing damage so the car was twitchy but i decided to still push for kcender and the thing just spun on entry at the right hander at the start of s3 and again someone found my stranded car and damaged my front wing and I limped home 11th... an awake me may have saved the car who knows an annoying error lol
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Joe on June 14, 2017, 04:10:54 PM
I shouldnt drive when i have been up since 5am on 5hrs sleep lol, surprised i got pole i wasnt happy with any of my laps.

Try having 3 kids 6 and under; that's me every single day  ;D
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Matthew111 on June 14, 2017, 04:52:19 PM
haha it isnt fun, i do the dumbest stuff when im tired literally cant remember what i did 5 secs ago let alone drive a car haha
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Joe on June 14, 2017, 05:52:00 PM
Hah you get used to it being the norm. Maybe one day I'll find the other half of my brain i appear to have lost.
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: doobs on June 14, 2017, 05:58:01 PM
Qual: I never do that well in qual.

Race 1: Got damage at the start which affected grip. It was a good drive after that, but could have used the extra grip I lost. Had fun driving around in front of Bacculum.  lol

Race 2; was doing alright until I had a spin in the last chicane...I hate slow chicanes. I also spun somewhere else and broke my wings again. I could have done with the grip I lost but really enjoyed the driving last night. Some great moves pulled on me, and wish I could have returned the favour

Good racing fellows
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: KeRo on June 16, 2017, 06:48:02 PM
But I think Wally did not notice Shayne overlapping and he was on a trajectory moving left, so that the space closed. Congrats to Shayne for holding it together on the grass, though. I would have spun and take both cars out!
That's it, really. I didn't know Shayne was there and should have noticed him on Helicorsa.


KeRo you're not using the old PitConfig app, are you? If you are, you should ditch that and just rely on AC's pitstop strategy.

Hey Wally, no old pit apps... its strange because i did a singleplayer race and pitted no problem but tried in the race on the practice sever the other day and driving into the pits doesnt't seem to work for me...
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Freezer on June 16, 2017, 07:56:07 PM
But I think Wally did not notice Shayne overlapping and he was on a trajectory moving left, so that the space closed. Congrats to Shayne for holding it together on the grass, though. I would have spun and take both cars out!
That's it, really. I didn't know Shayne was there and should have noticed him on Helicorsa.


KeRo you're not using the old PitConfig app, are you? If you are, you should ditch that and just rely on AC's pitstop strategy.

Hey Wally, no old pit apps... its strange because i did a singleplayer race and pitted no problem but tried in the race on the practice sever the other day and driving into the pits doesnt't seem to work for me...
You can configure it in the last tab under Setup, but also as you come into pit lane it flashed up and you can adjust things using the arrow keys on your keypad...
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Wally on June 16, 2017, 09:17:03 PM
But I think Wally did not notice Shayne overlapping and he was on a trajectory moving left, so that the space closed. Congrats to Shayne for holding it together on the grass, though. I would have spun and take both cars out!
That's it, really. I didn't know Shayne was there and should have noticed him on Helicorsa.


KeRo you're not using the old PitConfig app, are you? If you are, you should ditch that and just rely on AC's pitstop strategy.

Hey Wally, no old pit apps... its strange because i did a singleplayer race and pitted no problem but tried in the race on the practice sever the other day and driving into the pits doesnt't seem to work for me...
What does it do when you pit?
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: KeRo on June 16, 2017, 09:56:38 PM
It doesn't do anything I pull up then have to press escape to pit.....
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Simone on June 17, 2017, 08:38:32 AM
It doesn't do anything I pull up then have to press escape to pit.....

Hey Kero!!  I am a noob but have you set the "pit strategy" tab with the proper values?,ex:  add litres,change compound(tyres)...?
Also make sure you save it for and use the set up for when you race. 
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Simone on June 17, 2017, 08:43:52 AM
Hey wally... 8) 8) 8)   cant recover yet from my mistake in the last lap in race 2....i am a noob......

cmon mugello!!! i am racing HOME!!!!!!   :P :P :P
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Bacchulum on June 17, 2017, 08:51:05 AM
Be sure to have 'MEDIUM" selected under the Compounds tab.
'NO CHANGE' doesn't mean keep the same compound, it means don't change tyres. ;)
(quite a few of us have made that mistake)
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: Wally on June 17, 2017, 11:50:22 AM
Hey wally... 8) 8) 8)   cant recover yet from my mistake in the last lap in race 2....i am a noob......

cmon mugello!!! i am racing HOME!!!!!!   :P :P :P
Here's hoping for another good battle at Mugello.
Title: Re: S17R3: Spa post-race chat
Post by: KeRo on June 17, 2017, 03:07:17 PM
Be sure to have 'MEDIUM" selected under the Compounds tab.
'NO CHANGE' doesn't mean keep the same compound, it means don't change tyres. ;)
(quite a few of us have made that mistake)

Thank you both Bacchulum and Simone, think that was the problem. Had my set up all done but didn't have the tyres selected...
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