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S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018

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Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2018, 02:29:18 PM »
You need to enable Dev_Apps.
This is located in your main install: (steam crap)/assettocorsa/system/cfg/assetto_corsa.ini
Once you do this, you'll have access to the Wings app, which shows total d/f for each element, d/f & drag coefficients as well as CoP % (front) (I call this the wind tunnel).
You'll also have access to the Car Engineer app, which gives damper ratios as well as suspension frequencies (shaker rig).
I use Car Physics app to get the weight distribution which locates the CoP (just rearwards of this point).

Enjoy the world of numbers. 8)

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Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2018, 03:52:29 PM »
Did some aero mapping in the E21 and managed to get 40% front CoP, even without a front wing. 8)
And that allowed me to get the spring frequencies back to a more traditional delta. ;D
Setup posted on sTracker. ;)
But did it make you faster? :)
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Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2018, 04:15:22 PM »
Yes, with more even tyre wear to boot. ;)

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Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2018, 04:37:53 PM »
You need to enable Dev_Apps.
This is located in your main install: (steam crap)/assettocorsa/system/cfg/assetto_corsa.ini
Once you do this, you'll have access to the Wings app, which shows total d/f for each element, d/f & drag coefficients as well as CoP % (front) (I call this the wind tunnel).
You'll also have access to the Car Engineer app, which gives damper ratios as well as suspension frequencies (shaker rig).
I use Car Physics app to get the weight distribution which locates the CoP (just rearwards of this point).

Enjoy the world of numbers. 8)

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Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2018, 05:01:02 PM »
I don't think you're talking to me there, Phil. :-\
Who do you think he's talking to Wally? ???

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Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2018, 05:54:40 PM »
You need to enable Dev_Apps.
This is located in your main install: (steam crap)/assettocorsa/system/cfg/assetto_corsa.ini
Once you do this, you'll have access to the Wings app, which shows total d/f for each element, d/f & drag coefficients as well as CoP % (front) (I call this the wind tunnel).
You'll also have access to the Car Engineer app, which gives damper ratios as well as suspension frequencies (shaker rig).
I use Car Physics app to get the weight distribution which locates the CoP (just rearwards of this point).

Enjoy the world of numbers. 8)

I simple to understand app that gave these numbers in a way dummies like me could understand would be cool
Some, or most, of these measurements aren't exposed to public apps, unfortunately.
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Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2018, 07:08:31 PM »
Thanks Dave. I'll check it out. Expect my lap times to fall off a cliff.

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Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2018, 07:25:53 PM »
Thanks Dave. I'll check it out. Expect my lap times to fall off a cliff.
I think the most valuable bit is the wing's balance (CoP) percentage.
With some cars, one 'click' can be 20% on one end and only 5% on the other.
Get the CoP right, you don't over-compensate with the suspension and excessively wear the tyres on one axle, as well as getting a better balanced car in both high and low speed corners.
The rest can be closely judged by feel (by others I believe, but I like confirmation).
My laptime improves more through confidence of consistency more than a gain in grip itself, but it can't hurt to know the car better. ;)

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Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
« Reply #23 on: August 19, 2018, 11:54:41 AM »
This is a great high speed track, reminds me of Oesterreichring 70s, and just as hard to get right!!! After much stuffing around with setup, and many laps later, I went back to my Magione setup (which I was completely happy with)  and voila I managed a 1m29s :). Might be worth a try if you are having trouble, but you need to feel comfortable at the track first ;). This track is a great find and looks beautiful as well, thanks Seanus :) :) :).
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Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2018, 03:45:10 PM »
I have put my setup for the Avia-af87 on PTracker, which uses no aero :). And one for Metalax 106, also with no aero.
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Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
« Reply #25 on: August 23, 2018, 12:49:42 PM »
Bit late  :-[

But an AF87 pls  ;)
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Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
« Reply #26 on: August 23, 2018, 01:29:21 PM »
All the cars have been assigned and there is at least one of each car available I think for those whop have not decided yet
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Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
« Reply #27 on: August 23, 2018, 01:58:17 PM »
I hope I make it.
Going under the knife this arvo, don't know how long it will take or how I'll feel afterwards, but we'll see.

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Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
« Reply #28 on: August 23, 2018, 02:05:45 PM »
I hope I make it.
Going under the knife this arvo, don't know how long it will take or how I'll feel afterwards, but we'll see.

I hope all is ok and get well soon :)
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Re: S15 R1 - Automotodrom Grobnik - 23/08/2018
« Reply #29 on: August 23, 2018, 02:45:57 PM »
Going under the knife this arvo, don't know how long it will take or how I'll feel afterwards, but we'll see.

Gee Dave that doesn't sound too good. But I love your commitment!

Hope all goes well mate. Get better soon.

 

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