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Title: S36R7 - Silverstone
Post by: Wally on February 23, 2021, 10:35:27 PM
With a win and a 2nd place in race 2, Dietmar narrowly wins the round in front of Bueller. There's no change in the podium standings, but Bueller and Dietmar are pulling away from Killagorilla, with only 2 points now separating Bueller in first and Dietmar in second.

RACE 1 RESULTS (https://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2021/03/s36r7-silverstone-race-1.html)
RACE 2 RESULTS (https://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2021/03/s36r7-silverstone-race-2.html)

SEASON STATS (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nu52lWM6_TIRBEGCTF32BxLe8mobfsCFpd_wOeuxpXI/edit?usp=sharing)

Round Points
Dietmar Raath   35
buellersdayoff   32
Wally   25
killagorilla   20
Joe   14
Mael   11
Phil.8   10
Freezer   7
ab156   4
AGK   3
AbleArcher83   3
Dave O   2
Rob   2
Neville   2
Bacchulum   0

Penalties
Race 1
Killagorilla locked brakes and hit the back of buellersdayoff, spinning him – 60 kg penalty ballast for next race.

Season Standings
1. buellersdayoff, 197
2. Dietmar Raath, 195
3. killagorilla, 179



The forecast is for a pretty warm day, around about 29 degrees, which is quite a bit warmer than most races so far.

Race length is 13 laps.
Title: Re: S36R7 - Silverstone
Post by: killagorilla on February 24, 2021, 09:47:44 PM
Ok, done my 'secret' 15 laps or so...yeah, Wally, why don't you make it 19deg, instead of 29? I mean, it's a simulation...you can do whatever you want  ;)
Seriously, left tyres are pretty much permanently deep red...may really have to go for mediums this time.
This track is great fun in the Alfa.
Title: Re: S36R7 - Silverstone
Post by: Wally on February 24, 2021, 10:33:53 PM
Ok, done my 'secret' 15 laps or so...yeah, Wally, why don't you make it 19deg, instead of 29? I mean, it's a simulation...you can do whatever you want  ;)
Seriously, left tyres are pretty much permanently deep red...may really have to go for mediums this time.
This track is great fun in the Alfa.
I liked twisting people's arms to not use softs all the time ;)
I make weather "realistic". It can get that hot at Silverstone.
Title: Re: S36R7 - Silverstone
Post by: Alphonso_Timmins on February 27, 2021, 11:29:41 PM
Is it too late to change cars mid season to the Merc?  ::)
Title: Re: S36R7 - Silverstone
Post by: buellersdayoff on February 28, 2021, 08:25:59 AM
For you, yes. I've seen those times you have.

(not actually under my control) lol
Title: Re: S36R7 - Silverstone
Post by: Alphonso_Timmins on February 28, 2021, 09:55:41 AM
Ha ha!  ;). I am likely to miss Interlagos which I am quite sad about as I'll be on holiday, so I need every opportunity to score some good points.  ;D
Title: Re: S36R7 - Silverstone
Post by: killagorilla on February 28, 2021, 11:50:38 AM
Ok, done my 'secret' 15 laps or so...yeah, Wally, why don't you make it 19deg, instead of 29? I mean, it's a simulation...you can do whatever you want  ;)
Seriously, left tyres are pretty much permanently deep red...may really have to go for mediums this time.
This track is great fun in the Alfa.
I liked twisting people's arms to not use softs all the time ;)
I make weather "realistic". It can get that hot at Silverstone.
Yeah, but red softs are still faster  :).
Really good times there on the server...no chance I could switch and adjust to different cars so quickly.
Title: Re: S36R7 - Silverstone
Post by: Wally on March 02, 2021, 07:09:08 PM
Server's up.
Title: Re: S36R7 - Silverstone
Post by: Wally on March 02, 2021, 10:33:47 PM
Results are up. Congratulations to Dietmar on the round win, now only 2 points from the championship lead.
Title: Re: S36R7 - Silverstone
Post by: Joe on March 02, 2021, 11:00:24 PM
https://youtu.be/5oVxmYYsYNc

Slight oversteer wally on the inside, I got stuck as had a better exit and nowhere to go, eased off to move back across allowing Mael up the inside, 3 wide and a drift across the back of Mael.

That sums up my whole night, super intense close racing every lap was loads of fun.
Title: Re: S36R7 - Silverstone
Post by: Wally on March 02, 2021, 11:23:16 PM
Race 1, I missed the early bingle (just clipped someone), and then had an easy run in 2nd, watching Dietmar get smaller and smaller on the horizon.

Race 2 was excellent. I had a helluva long and fun battle with Mael, who got the early jump on me with his soft tyres. Finally I passed him after several laps, only to lose it in a tank slapper at the right hander at the end of hangar straight, dropping spots to Freezer, Joe and Mael. But then as in Joe's video, I had a good race, passing all three of them (with Phil & ab156 also in the mix). That's been the race of the season, so far.
Title: Re: S36R7 - Silverstone
Post by: Bacchulum on March 03, 2021, 12:30:29 PM
I manage to miss the carnage on lap 1 getting up into 3rd.
I had some early pressure from Freezer but opened a gap that I was maintaining.
Then the gearbox let go on lap 7.
I couldn't find any motivation to start race 2, given it was a guaranteed DNF.
Title: Re: S36R7 - Silverstone
Post by: buellersdayoff on March 03, 2021, 01:54:50 PM
Despite the incident I really enjoyed both of the races, it was tough battling trying to take places safely in R1 and then fighting for podium in R2, very intense. One of the highlights for me was giving Dietmar a little tap on the rear on corner exit (on the straight away) just to let him know I'm there, in case he wasn't feeling enough pressure already. It was a bit of a "hear me laughing" moment. The medium tyres were buggered by the end but probably necessary as to not overheat. Excellent racing thanks guys.
Title: Re: S36R7 - Silverstone
Post by: Wally on March 03, 2021, 02:44:44 PM
I manage to miss the carnage on lap 1 getting up into 3rd.
I had some early pressure from Freezer but opened a gap that I was maintaining.
Then the gearbox let go on lap 7.
I couldn't find any motivation to start race 2, given it was a guaranteed DNF.
No one else is blowing gearboxes. Perhaps you can change the range of your clutch pedal in AC. Mine is set to only about 33% max so I don't have to depress the pedal all the way.

Title: Re: S36R7 - Silverstone
Post by: Bacchulum on March 03, 2021, 03:05:23 PM
I manage to miss the carnage on lap 1 getting up into 3rd.
I had some early pressure from Freezer but opened a gap that I was maintaining.
Then the gearbox let go on lap 7.
I couldn't find any motivation to start race 2, given it was a guaranteed DNF.
No one else is blowing gearboxes. Perhaps you can change the range of your clutch pedal in AC. Mine is set to only about 33% max so I don't have to depress the pedal all the way.
Did that years a go, but it wouldn't make a difference.
It's the downshifts that's damaging it and I'm not using the clutch at all for them.
I find I have to heel-toe if I right foot brake, but then (with my old knees) I can barely walk the next day from the twisting action required to do it.
Title: Re: S36R7 - Silverstone
Post by: Wally on March 03, 2021, 03:45:37 PM
I manage to miss the carnage on lap 1 getting up into 3rd.
I had some early pressure from Freezer but opened a gap that I was maintaining.
Then the gearbox let go on lap 7.
I couldn't find any motivation to start race 2, given it was a guaranteed DNF.
No one else is blowing gearboxes. Perhaps you can change the range of your clutch pedal in AC. Mine is set to only about 33% max so I don't have to depress the pedal all the way.
Did that years a go, but it wouldn't make a difference.
It's the downshifts that's damaging it and I'm not using the clutch at all for them.
I find I have to heel-toe if I right foot brake, but then (with my old knees) I can barely walk the next day from the twisting action required to do it.
The paddle shifters are your friend!
Title: Re: S36R7 - Silverstone
Post by: Seanus on March 03, 2021, 03:56:17 PM
Just discovered this, and it seems to be missing from all cars in AC, except the mod I found it in, and I guess only race cars would have it, but ALL race cars should have it.



[COAST_SETTINGS]
LUT=(0=0.275|1=0.250|2=0.225|3=0.200|4=0.175|5=0.150|6=0.125|7=0.100|8=0.075|9=0.050|10=0.025|11=0.000) ; part throttle
DEFAULT=7
ACTIVATION_RPM=3775


I don't heel 'n toe in my real car, does anyone?


If you need to heel 'n' toe in a Modern race car then I really think the clutch is letting you down. I mean it's a race car, buy a bigger clutch, or slipper clutch.
Title: Re: S36R7 - Silverstone
Post by: Mael on March 03, 2021, 04:00:44 PM
Fun races. The first one got caught out in the first lap shenanigans.

Race 2 start was better but Bueller's very conservative start prevented the Alfa's from putting pressure on Dietmar. Rubbing is racing Bueller!! From there I lost lots of time and places while trying to figure out braking bias with soft tires as the rears kept on locking. Ended up moving from 73 bias on hards to 80% on the soft tires. Freezer was an unfortunate by-stander with one of the rear-locking moments at the chicane. His tires seemed to give up the ghost  or maybe his steering wheel made a dash for the exit around lap 9  ;D as it became difficult to keep Joe/Wally in control.


It's the downshifts that's damaging it and I'm not using the clutch at all for them.
I find I have to heel-toe if I right foot brake, but then (with my old knees) I can barely walk the next day from the twisting action required to do it.

Someday I will learn to heel-toe   :-[   For myself I just delay the downshift, always using the clutch. AC developers noted every time you shift without a clutch an Italian engineer shed a tear  ;D

Title: Re: S36R7 - Silverstone
Post by: Bird on March 03, 2021, 04:39:13 PM
....I don't heel 'n toe in my real car, does anyone?...

Lotus Exige.   My business partner got one (the flat 4), with a supercharger upgrade ; it's a sub-4s mental machine.
And you are dead slow unless you're heel-toeing, which is fine on the street.  But on the track you're out in the green stuff in no time if you are pushing it without heel-toe :)

p.s. I can't properly drive it; I can't heel-toe.  My mate can heel-toe, however he can't properly drive, hehe. 

Title: Re: S36R7 - Silverstone
Post by: Joe on March 03, 2021, 06:03:24 PM
I always heel toe and use the clutch. Learnt it years ago and do it without thinking. I'm a right foot braker even on cars with paddles. In ac some cars seem to need you to heel toe more than others.
Title: Re: S36R7 - Silverstone
Post by: Freezer on March 03, 2021, 08:27:30 PM
Left foot braking paddler here!  Although I do blip the throttle a bit down changing!!
Qualified 6th which was an improvement and got a decent start. 
As I charged down into Brooklands I was mostly paying attention to my mirrors
when I suddenly saw spinning cars across the track in front of me.  Only option at that stage was to go for the (sort of) gap which resulted in a bit of contact.
So sorry if I made it worse, but not many options at that stage.  From there I was in 4th with Dave, Phil and then Joe and Bueller chasing me. Bueller got past and it looking
like I would hold fourth to the finish when I completely forgot my brake marker into Stowe, ran wide and let Joe and Killa through....dooh!
Race two was also looking promising after early battles with Wally and Mael I was again holding a solid 4th.  Wally made a dive and my wheel came off the desk!  I did manage
to keep things going but Mael got a run into Brooklands and I tried a bit to hard to brake on the outside and put a wheel on the grass.  Next thing I was 12th.......
Opportunities lost but a good nights racing.
Title: Re: S36R7 - Silverstone
Post by: Alphonso_Timmins on March 03, 2021, 09:59:12 PM
Qualifying: First pole! Hooray

R1: After the great racing incident of 2021 as chronicled above, I had a healthy lead from Wally and tried my best (but failed) to get into the 15s as I couldn't put my sectors together. Anyhow, I needed the points so I was happy with the win.

R2: Slow and sluggish start as the E30 bogged off the line, and put me behind Killa from the outset. Cue 10 straight laps of less than a second between 1st, 2nd and 3rd. I was hoping for Bueller to pay for my dinner with how intimate he got with the back of my car, but to no avail. THIS is racing! Finally had a run on Killa as we were heading down the back straight, and attempted a move around the outside. Unfortunately we both got tangled up with my front slightly clipping Killa's rear as we negotiated the bend which spat him wide. He recovered, Bueller slipped past, and that was that. This was easily the closest racing I've had in a long while and it was really good fun, and a lot of work. I'd encourage you both to check the replay, it's a good watch!

Fellow heel-toer here - no rev matching in the E30 is a recipe for disaster!

Title: Re: S36R7 - Silverstone
Post by: killagorilla on March 03, 2021, 11:13:00 PM
Sorry about the nudge, Bueller...and to everyone else for being an obstruction. I then just waited there to redress, thought, better don't move and was hoping everyone will find a way around us. Didn't quite work, but could have been worse I guess.
Title: Re: S36R7 - Silverstone
Post by: buellersdayoff on March 04, 2021, 09:40:49 PM
All good, still had really good races, lucky the damage is reduced a bit. Also for the gearbox damage, I still crunch and grind those even with the heel and toe quick shifts, it needs good timing.
Would be an excellent replay but while trying to figure out my pc issues I turned off the auto save. The pc problem for me turned out to be win updates that could only be removed via a month old backup, I had uninstalled/reinstalled those problematic updates too many times trying to diagnose.
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