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Title: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: Wally on May 01, 2019, 02:21:34 PM
Congratulations to Guybrush on Pole, Kcender and Bacchulum for their race wins (Bacchulum's 10th Tuesday race win), and Kcender's overall round win.

RACE 1 RESULTS (https://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2019/05/s28r1-gpl-67-at-hockenheimring-race-1.html)
RACE 2 RESULTS (https://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2019/05/s28r1-gpl-67-at-hockenheimring-race-2.html)
RACE 3 RESULTS (https://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2019/05/s28r1-gpl-67-at-hockenheimring-race-3.html)
SEASON STANDINGS (https://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2019/05/season-28-standings.html)
SEASON STATS (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nu52lWM6_TIRBEGCTF32BxLe8mobfsCFpd_wOeuxpXI/edit?usp=sharing)

Round Points
Kcender87   122
Bacchulum   112
Guybrush Threepwood   109
Phil.8   92
ab156   88
Seanus   86
Joe   78
bradc   70
AGK   66
Wally   60
Freezer   60
Bird   58
RussG   56
rooshooter   32
Doobs   32
Mael   28
Gratulin   26
Dave O   26
Rob   22
JamieP   18
AbleArcher83   18
Simone   0

Lap 1 Penalties

Race 1
Russ had gone off at the fast right hander, and was rejoining the track from the side road, when DaveO came around the corner. Dave had left some room; Russ was rejoining; it wasn’t one party’s clear fault, so a racing incident.

Bacchulum turned in a bit too soon; Guybrush went a bit too straight; again it wasn’t one party’s clear fault, so a racing incident.

Same corner, similar incident between Joe and Freezer; again a racing incident.

Race 2
Bradc ran into the back of AGK and spun him – 30 kg penalty ballast for next race.

Race 3
DaveO and Mael had a wheel to wheel contact that ended in tears; racing incident.

Guybrush spun after putting a wheel in the grass and collected Kcender – racing incident.

Guybrush ran into the back of Rob, spinning him - 30 kg penalty ballast for next race.

Wally and Freezer had a side-to-side wheel contact – racing incident.

Season Standings
1. Kcender87, 122
2. Bacchulum, 112
3. Guybrush Threepwood, 109



3 x 11 laps

Track download: https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/60s-hockenheim-grand-prix-circuit-f3-classic-tracks.13105 (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/60s-hockenheim-grand-prix-circuit-f3-classic-tracks.13105)
Plus extra pitboxes (Thank you Seanus!): https://drive.google.com/open?id=1lETV84B5FwxZ3JV3dX81b4jdpvHv15Fn (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1lETV84B5FwxZ3JV3dX81b4jdpvHv15Fn)

Weather is mild: 18 to 23 degrees.

Remember to sign up and make a car choice at the Car Dealer (https://xgnsimracing.com.au/home).
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: killagorilla on May 04, 2019, 01:31:19 PM
Bacchulum, looks like the Eagle is killing the Brabham, huh?
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: Bacchulum on May 04, 2019, 03:14:48 PM
Horses for courses. ;)
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: Phil.8 on May 04, 2019, 06:25:06 PM
Horses for courses. ;)

I hope so because I won't get the Brabham into the .50s lets alone the .49s
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: Bird on May 05, 2019, 08:23:04 AM
Gee Guybrush didn't take long to find his legs...
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on May 05, 2019, 06:37:32 PM
Just got lucky.  Still hoping to get a shifter to make up some time on the gear changes though.
Thought I could use my old G27 one but I can't run that with the Fanatec wheel.
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: Joe on May 06, 2019, 08:05:37 AM
Thought I could use my old G27 one but I can't run that with the Fanatec wheel.

Technically if you plugged the entire G27 in with the shifter attached to it, you would be able to use both. Think you can also get adapters for the G27 one too, but I do recommend the Fanatec shifter it feels so much better.
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: killagorilla on May 06, 2019, 11:19:28 AM
No idea how Guybrush gets the Ferrari to 310km/h and be 1.4s faster than me. Not that I want to say I'm a good reference of course ;-)
It's not a surprise seeing Guybrush and kcender on top, but the Eagles really do seem to be faster here. So after tweaking my Ferrari setup and trying to get in the best time possible I tried the Eagle for a few laps...and failed...was 4 to 6km/h faster on the straights (that's easy), but couldn't beat my time in the Ferrari. I don't think that's because the Ferrari is the faster car at Hockenheim, it's just I'm sort of tuned into the Ferrari too much. So, not wanting to do 100 laps in the Eagle and learn how to drive it, I will stick to the Ferrari...and be slow...easy prey for the fast Eagles on the long straights.
Wonder what time Guybrush would be able to do in the Eagle with a lot less preparation than me...maybe very low 1:48's or high 1:47's...it's frustrating  ;)
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: Joe on May 06, 2019, 12:04:30 PM
No idea how Guybrush gets the Ferrari to 310km/h and be 1.4s faster than me.

The rest of us have been wondering that for years.. especially when he's running a single monitor.
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: killagorilla on May 06, 2019, 12:47:18 PM
No idea how Guybrush gets the Ferrari to 310km/h and be 1.4s faster than me.

The rest of us have been wondering that for years.. especially when he's running a single monitor.
Yeah, you can buy immersion, but not speed :-)
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on May 06, 2019, 01:02:06 PM
KCender really should be your reference.  I just had the chance to do a bit of practice.  I haven't properly tried it but I think getting the Lotus up there in time is probably more of an achievement.

And...points are only handed out on Sunday... Or Tuesday as it were.
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: killagorilla on May 06, 2019, 02:46:48 PM
KCender really should be your reference.  I just had the chance to do a bit of practice.  I haven't properly tried it but I think getting the Lotus up there in time is probably more of an achievement.

And...points are only handed out on Sunday... Or Tuesday as it were.
Was just using you because you've done 310km/h in the Ferrari and I can just get 307km/h sort of flickering at best...sometimes. I think I'm doing not so bad in the curvy area, but top speed is a problem for me as the Eagles are so much faster...in the areas where overtaking is actually possible....then take slip stream into the equation...yeah, not good at all.
Well, I'll try the Lotus later today and see if I can get that one it a bit faster. With the Ferrari I'm at my wits' end...and skills of course ;-)

So why should I use kcender as a reference again? It seems you've had quite a break from sim racing (may have raced elsewhere, dunno), "...just had the chance to do a bit of practice", then the shifter issue on top...yeah, don't really get it ;-)
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: ab156 on May 06, 2019, 03:40:13 PM
Can't look at times at the moment, seems the tracker server has finally given up the ghost - time for a purge?

There is so much required to get the ultimate top speed, in my view it might be a mistake to focus on that.  The corner exit speed, how fast you can get to your "top speed" and ability to also make it around the stadium all contribute to the lap time. And, as stated above, you then need to finish the race(s).

I can get the Eagle a bit faster in a straight line by tweaking a few things but the .x I can make up on the straights goes away in the stadium, plus some.  Also, I see a massive variation in my T1 apex speed in the Eagle, a few laps in the Ferrari and I was pretty consistent which doesn't surprise me a the braking and turn in stability of the Ferrari is a massive advantage over the Eagle.

This and Monza are unique tracks.
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: Freezer on May 06, 2019, 04:50:31 PM
KCender really should be your reference.  I just had the chance to do a bit of practice.  I haven't properly tried it but I think getting the Lotus up there in time is probably more of an achievement.

And...points are only handed out on Sunday... Or Tuesday as it were.
Was just using you because you've done 310km/h in the Ferrari and I can just get 307km/h sort of flickering at best...sometimes. I think I'm doing not so bad in the curvy area, but top speed is a problem for me as the Eagles are so much faster...in the areas where overtaking is actually possible....then take slip stream into the equation...yeah, not good at all.
Well, I'll try the Lotus later today and see if I can get that one it a bit faster. With the Ferrari I'm at my wits' end...and skills of course ;-)

So why should I use kcender as a reference again? It seems you've had quite a break from sim racing (may have raced elsewhere, dunno), "...just had the chance to do a bit of practice", then the shifter issue on top...yeah, don't really get it ;-)
I can only get 309km/h in the eagle after many attempts . . so with those extra 2km/h I will blow past you! :) :)
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: Phil.8 on May 06, 2019, 05:23:55 PM
Can't look at times at the moment, seems the tracker server has finally given up the ghost - time for a purge?

There is so much required to get the ultimate top speed, in my view it might be a mistake to focus on that.  The corner exit speed, how fast you can get to your "top speed" and ability to also make it around the stadium all contribute to the lap time. And, as stated above, you then need to finish the race(s).

I can get the Eagle a bit faster in a straight line by tweaking a few things but the .x I can make up on the straights goes away in the stadium, plus some.  Also, I see a massive variation in my T1 apex speed in the Eagle, a few laps in the Ferrari and I was pretty consistent which doesn't surprise me a the braking and turn in stability of the Ferrari is a massive advantage over the Eagle.

This and Monza are unique tracks.

I have restarted the whole server and it seems ok for now
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: Phil.8 on May 06, 2019, 05:30:35 PM
We discovered on Thursday with dodgy setups with raised fronts and low rears the cars are a lot faster on the straights,  well its not really dodgy but apparently the heights in AC mean nothing,  seanus could explain more, but anyway I am starting to think AC is not as spot on as I thought regarding been realistic if you can do setups you would never do in a real car to go faster.

Admittedly the car on Thursdays is a mod car, but a pretty good one I think, but gaining 10-15 kph just by changing heights doesn't seem right or realistic to me and if heights don't mean anything who know what the other setup changes really do change
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: killagorilla on May 06, 2019, 06:24:26 PM
KCender really should be your reference.  I just had the chance to do a bit of practice.  I haven't properly tried it but I think getting the Lotus up there in time is probably more of an achievement.

And...points are only handed out on Sunday... Or Tuesday as it were.
Was just using you because you've done 310km/h in the Ferrari and I can just get 307km/h sort of flickering at best...sometimes. I think I'm doing not so bad in the curvy area, but top speed is a problem for me as the Eagles are so much faster...in the areas where overtaking is actually possible....then take slip stream into the equation...yeah, not good at all.
Well, I'll try the Lotus later today and see if I can get that one it a bit faster. With the Ferrari I'm at my wits' end...and skills of course ;-)

So why should I use kcender as a reference again? It seems you've had quite a break from sim racing (may have raced elsewhere, dunno), "...just had the chance to do a bit of practice", then the shifter issue on top...yeah, don't really get it ;-)
I can only get 309km/h in the eagle after many attempts . . so with those extra 2km/h I will blow past you! :) :)
Haha...with the Eagle I get to 310 twice...with the Ferrari I'm getting to 306/307 on the first straight and then 303/304 on the 2nd. I guess, if I have a Eagle behind me adding slip stream the difference in speed will be enough to not have any chance to defend my position. Then back in the stadium you can probably forget about overtaking anyway :-)
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on May 06, 2019, 06:52:29 PM
KCender really should be your reference.  I just had the chance to do a bit of practice.  I haven't properly tried it but I think getting the Lotus up there in time is probably more of an achievement.

And...points are only handed out on Sunday... Or Tuesday as it were.
Was just using you because you've done 310km/h in the Ferrari and I can just get 307km/h sort of flickering at best...sometimes.

Look at the power and torque curves and set your gearing around that.  Just because you've got room to move in top gear (5th) doesn't necessarily mean you will go as fast as a shorter gear that peaks at the right engine output.  :)
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: Freezer on May 06, 2019, 08:20:30 PM
KCender really should be your reference.  I just had the chance to do a bit of practice.  I haven't properly tried it but I think getting the Lotus up there in time is probably more of an achievement.

And...points are only handed out on Sunday... Or Tuesday as it were.
Was just using you because you've done 310km/h in the Ferrari and I can just get 307km/h sort of flickering at best...sometimes.

Look at the power and torque curves and set your gearing around that.  Just because you've got room to move in top gear (5th) doesn't necessarily mean you will go as fast as a shorter gear that peaks at the right engine output.  :)
I'm running the highest 5th gear in the eagle and the revs are maxed out well before the end of the straight . . . . there's no more! :'(
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on May 07, 2019, 06:32:00 AM
KCender really should be your reference.  I just had the chance to do a bit of practice.  I haven't properly tried it but I think getting the Lotus up there in time is probably more of an achievement.

And...points are only handed out on Sunday... Or Tuesday as it were.
Was just using you because you've done 310km/h in the Ferrari and I can just get 307km/h sort of flickering at best...sometimes.

Look at the power and torque curves and set your gearing around that.  Just because you've got room to move in top gear (5th) doesn't necessarily mean you will go as fast as a shorter gear that peaks at the right engine output.  :)
I'm running the highest 5th gear in the eagle and the revs are maxed out well before the end of the straight . . . . there's no more! :'(

That could be why the eagle looks to gain time on the straights but doesn't have a higher top speed - it gets to its top speed quicker.
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: Wally on May 07, 2019, 07:14:32 AM
Is slip streaming turned on, on the server? I couldn't catch a draft all day. Probably just placebo. But thought I'd check.
You can't turn slipstreaming on or off on the server.


FYI, I'm getting the NBN connected today, so hopefully I have internet tonight. If something screws up, I'll have to postpone the race. I'll keep you posted.
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: Mael on May 07, 2019, 10:15:04 AM
Is slip streaming turned on, on the server? I couldn't catch a draft all day. Probably just placebo. But thought I'd check.

Can confirm slipstreaming works, got to 318 at one stage. Much faster than the wheezy Honda can push the car along on its own.
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: bradc on May 07, 2019, 03:44:31 PM
Is slip streaming turned on, on the server? I couldn't catch a draft all day. Probably just placebo. But thought I'd check.

Can confirm slipstreaming works, got to 318 at one stage. Much faster than the wheezy Honda can push the car along on its own.

Yep, I found another 10kph in the Lotus if I got within a second of the leading car
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: Wally on May 07, 2019, 06:03:35 PM
Server's up.
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: JamieP on May 07, 2019, 06:45:21 PM
Downloading the mod again but was getting checksum errors last night and today. Already re-downloaded the track
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: Dave O on May 07, 2019, 06:59:27 PM
Have you got Seanus's extra pits mod?
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on May 07, 2019, 07:09:26 PM
Qual starts at 8:30 right?
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: killagorilla on May 07, 2019, 07:15:03 PM
Sorry, won't make it tonight. Computer is dead  :(
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: Bacchulum on May 07, 2019, 07:18:41 PM
Qual starts at 8:30 right?
Correct.
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: killagorilla on May 07, 2019, 07:18:54 PM
KCender really should be your reference.  I just had the chance to do a bit of practice.  I haven't properly tried it but I think getting the Lotus up there in time is probably more of an achievement.

And...points are only handed out on Sunday... Or Tuesday as it were.
Was just using you because you've done 310km/h in the Ferrari and I can just get 307km/h sort of flickering at best...sometimes.

Look at the power and torque curves and set your gearing around that.  Just because you've got room to move in top gear (5th) doesn't necessarily mean you will go as fast as a shorter gear that peaks at the right engine output.  :)
Cheers mate. I'll make it a habit to check that and not just guesstimating the best one...like I've done so far  :)
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: Bird on May 07, 2019, 10:21:53 PM
Well, I gotta say it was/is an awesome start to this season, great number of cars & very careful, gentlemanly driving from everyone!

The 3rd was the race I almost beat Guybrush! Loved every bit of it while it lasted.   I was up to 4th somehow and thought: "this is not going to last, but I'll hang on whatever".   Great racing, just great! :D
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: Joe on May 07, 2019, 10:27:08 PM
Best night racing I can remember having in a while.

R1 had a coming together on lap one into the stadium with Freezer and someone else; no idea who was at fault there but I couldn't safely re-enter and was back in last place in 22nd but made it back to 9th so was great fun coming through the pack.

R2 started well and had a few really good laps side by side with Freezer before he pulled ahead then maintained the gap until the end. Finished somewhere around 6th I think.

R3 was going great up into 4th. Kcender was coming through the field and bird had dropped back a bit behind him so decided not to really fight the inevitable with kcender and keep a bit of a gap to bird, but the draught must have thrown me off somehow and when I braked it all went a bit pear shaped and into the trees. Rejoined in 10th I think and maybe finished 9th due to Freezer crashing out a few laps later.

All in all awesome night.
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on May 07, 2019, 10:28:04 PM
Yep. Great night of fun guys. Good to be back in the saddle.  Although I'm a bit rusty!  Apologies to anyone I tangled with - including the barriers on the outside of turn 2 multiple times...

Will done to KCender, Bacchulum and ab on the podiums.
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: Wally on May 07, 2019, 11:14:21 PM
Results are up in first post.

My racing was intense but uneventful, except for race 3 where I got a couple of wheels on the grass at over 300 kph on the fast section before the bend, and slid for about 3 km before ending up backwards in the fence. I managed to regain a few places from there though.
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: ab156 on May 08, 2019, 12:03:08 AM
If’s, but’s and maybe’s....

As others have stated, great nights racing. Awesome to have a big field and great choice of first track as it gave space for people feel out the racing vibe of the cars.  Clearly some cars were better than others here but the slipstream was a bit of a leveller.

Quail was ok for me, not great.

Race 1 I just wanted to stay clean ..... over thinking it.  The Eagle seemed to get a better jump on the starts so I was out of lap pace position after the first corner.  Once i saw we had built a bit of a gap to the pack I slipped back to 4th which was were I was happy to run.  All went well until the entry to the stadium where a few in front went off so I thought I should follow.  It is gentlemanly racing after all.  Had a great race coming back through the field, got into some interesting fights as I could pass ppl on the straight only for them to grab the slipstream and have more confidence in the braking zones. Made it to a respectable position after a great battle with bradc only to go off at Sachs just after I cleared him and then looped it on the first corner of the last lap.  Idiot.

Race 2 was much better.  Started near the back of the pack and had a clean race back to where the car should have been.  Good clean racing.

Race 3 was one of those intense races by yourself.  The leaders decided to make it interesting at T2 so I stumbled into position 2 behind Bacc on lap 1 about 3.5 seconds back.  The next 1,100 seconds were spent clawing 1.9 seconds back while watching KCender close the gap behind.  Never really got side by side with anyone but it was great fun.  Well done to Bacc for holding his nerve, not one mistake.

Hopefully a track with corners doesn’t create too much chaos!
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: rooshooter on May 08, 2019, 08:15:15 AM
A huge congratulations to Bacchulum and congratulations to Kcender and Guybrush on the wins ;D.

Great night of racing with gentlemanly behaviour from where I was at least, R1 was as good as simracing gets, with very close racing in a pack with Wally ,ab and Doobs, Doobs and I swapped place quite a few times ;D. I felt quite drained by the finish it was very intense.
R2 was not as good as R1 but still lots of fun and I just did not trust my ability to concentrate enough for the third race.
Looking forward to see what the track for next week will be.

NB. PLP is now working Wally.
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: rob on May 08, 2019, 08:21:33 AM
Mixed night for me.

The Cooper was always a bad choice, but I worked out a nice stable setup and thought if I could keep it clean I might pick up a point or 2.

R1: Started last, finished 14th, nice clean race, good fun.

R2: All good until someone decided that the Stadium Section was a good place to try and pass. Bumped wheels several times and ended up with some damage which left my lap times a bit down from my usual pedestrian pace. Filtered back to finished near last.

R3: Taken out twice in the first few laps. The Cooper being comparatively slow meant that there is no catching up and I was going to spend the next 10 laps hot-lapping by myself. Decided to have an early night.
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: Freezer on May 08, 2019, 10:13:45 AM
Some highs and lows last night.  When the flag dropped in R1 it was the first time in these cars with others on track and it showed.
Lap 1, contact with Joe (apololgies Joe), Lap 2 contact with JamieP (apologies again) and Lap 3 ran myself off onto the grass!!!
However, from there in 22nd I managed to charge back to  finish 11th grabbing 5 spots in the last two laps!
Race 2 saw contact with Gratulin at T2 where I think he turned down slightly from the outside and we touched wheels, nothing in it but
unfortunately he went off.  Battled with Joe and was unable to catch AB in front for what was otherwise a far cleaner race.
Race 3 I found the grass entering the stadium on lap 1 and then tangled with Wally at the next corner.  Felt Wally gave me fair but minimal room on the inside
and I tried to hold it tight but it wasn't to be and we both went around, so apologies for my part in that.
Pretty solid from there on until lap 8, I got a double tow down the big straight and completely missed the braking a fired into the fence.  Front left wheel at right
angles and escaped to the pits . . night done!
Way to many apologies for minor taps that caused grief so will have to work on that for next week!
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: JamieP on May 08, 2019, 01:24:54 PM
Had a shocking run, new cars, new wheel and pedals and lots of image tearing and stuttering on VR. Sorry to those I tangled with, I tried to keep out of the way as best as I could but the Honda seemed to drift all over the track. Will have to have a play with the wheel settings and find something that has a better feel. May even go back to the G27 if I can't get the feel I am after.

See you all next week
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: doobs on May 08, 2019, 05:30:16 PM
Race 1 was awesome, and then I made a stupid mistake on the last lap and lost a handful of spots.

Race 2 was good.

Race 3 kinda sucked.

Overall it was a lot of fun driving these cars.
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: Bacchulum on May 08, 2019, 06:33:08 PM
Weirdest thing, when I went to sleep last night, I had a dream I was racing Kcender and Guybrush. ??? :o
A good dream, but must've been a dream. ;)
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: Mael on May 08, 2019, 09:10:07 PM
Disaster round, one of those where trouble seemed to follow me  :(

There was too many incidents to mention, mostly my own mistakes but the rear shunt by Russ race one  was memorable. I wanted to be upset by it but since I missed my braking marker by at least 10m with the added speed of a massive tow there was no way I was ever going to make the corner into the stadium sector,  Russ just provided some company for a picnic on the grass.  ;D

Race three probably got a bit late at night for me, ran out of concentration and after bumping AbleArcher I though it best to watch from the sidelines.

Race 3
DaveO and Mael had a wheel to wheel contact that ended in tears; racing incident.

Hey Wally I did an unsafe track re-entry with this one, was hoping Davo would see me and give a bit of space but he was under no obligation to do so.
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: bradc on May 08, 2019, 10:48:51 PM
Great cars on a great track. I really enjoyed these cars  8)

Race 1 was epic going from 14th to 8th on the opening lap, dodging and weaving around other people's accidents and then onto having some great battles with Gratutlin and Ab in their Eagles. Whilst they had the outright speed, if I could stay in the tow I had enough under brakes to make a clean pass and then hold them off until the next straight. Great respectful racing with just enough racing room given by all  8) 


Race 2
Bradc ran into the back of AGK and spun him – 30 kg penalty ballast for next race.

Race 2. Well. Yep. I sure did!
On the opening lap as I raced towards the stadium I was in a line of 4 cars which became 2x2 side by side about 600m before the braking zone. I had a good tow behind AGK and started to brake a little earlier to avoid any potential contact and then in the braking zone AGK appeared to lock up in front of me. In my panic of fearing the 'big wreck' I stepped on the brakes too hard, locking myself up and then skidded into the back of AGK seeding him off on a John Deere exploration tour. At the time I apologised and I did wait and readdress seeing I was clearly in the wrong. Knowing it was lap 1, the evil part of me did think about not readdressing knowing I was going to be punished and push for a better race result, but that's not how I race.....

Race 3 I had another epic start going from 11th to 6th and I'll be honest and say I shat myself racing with the 'faster' guys and eventually fell off in the stadium section 4 laps later. When Joe had his 'off' I thought I was a chance of a better position, however I just couldn't quite get his tow and so the last couple of laps were spent trying everything to get closer but ultimately resulted in nothing.
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: Wally on May 09, 2019, 08:50:00 AM
For 'readdress' read 'redress'.  :P :-* :-*
One of my pet peeves too.

@Mael, I dont remember the incident off the top of my head. There were a few like that!
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: Ablearcher83 on May 09, 2019, 01:21:22 PM
Started the session with a fail. Forgot to select the car in cardealer before six pm, so got to enjoy the Mclaren which I had spent zero time in so no setup. It is a slippery pig and would not travel in a straight line ever.
So I resigned myself to the rear of the field. Found myself in the middle of the field acouple of times after others misadventures, but would be passed again as the mclearn would top out well under 300km.
Mael must have passed me 10 times in the three races untill......
Race three probably got a bit late at night for me, ran out of concentration and after bumping AbleArcher I though it best to watch from the sidelines.
We were close so just as likley that the Mclearn was wandering about.
Last race found myself after touching Mael well back from the field, so slowed down to let Doobs catch so we would have some one to race, but slowed too much on the straight and Doobs blasted by not to be seen again.
looking forward to Sukuza last time I raced here was Grand turismo 1
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: doobs on May 09, 2019, 09:18:55 PM
so slowed down to let Doobs catch so we would have some one to race, but slowed too much on the straight and Doobs blasted by not to be seen again.

lol, sorry Able... If I had known...............................it probably wouldn't have made any difference, I still would have tried to blast by, I make too many mistakes not to take advantage. :)
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: Freezer on May 09, 2019, 10:09:52 PM
It is a slippery pig and would not travel in a straight line ever.
I noticed that following you, it was just constantly wandering left to right!!  Not fun...
Title: Re: S28R1: Hockenheim 60's
Post by: Bacchulum on May 11, 2019, 08:16:43 PM
Two points from race one.

1.  Incident between Guybrush and myself.
100% good call Wally (IMHO).
At the time I felt I left room, and maybe just, but only if we were racing tin-tops on radials, which we aren't. :-[
There's always a lot of discussion when people disagree, I just want to balance the scales a bit. ;)

2.  There was no need to redress GB (see point 1)
But...
Thank you for doing so.
I don't feel it changed the outcome, but it gave a good battle for a few laps, which otherwise would've been hotlaps.

This makes racing here fun (almost as much as the win ;) )
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