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Title: S17R5: Zandvoort Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on June 27, 2017, 10:18:12 PM
RACE RESULTS (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com.au/2017/06/s17r6-lotus-exos-125-at-zandvoort.html)
SEASON STATS (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nu52lWM6_TIRBEGCTF32BxLe8mobfsCFpd_wOeuxpXI/edit#gid=1616435994)

Penalties
Race 1  - none.

Race 2:
Round Points
Matthew111   70
Joe   57
Kcender87   56
ab156   55
Jeremy   52
Wally   52
KeRo   52
Shayne   48
Mael   48
Dave O   45
Grat   43
Bacchulum   43
Doobs   40
RussG   39
AJ   39
DJB   33
Seanus   32
Slow_As   31
Phil.8   30
Freezer   28
Simone   0

Congratulations to Matthew for the clean sweep - taking maximum points and all bonuses!

Season Podium (no change)
1. Matthew111, 254
2. Kcender87, 238
3. Jeremy, 229

The biggest mover in the season standings is Phil, who dropped five places from 5th to 10th this round.

Teams
1. Struggle Street Racing Crew    573
2. Krahl Racing    412
3. DA Racing, 400
Title: Re: S17R5: Zandvoort Post-Race Chat
Post by: Freezer on June 27, 2017, 10:51:26 PM
Well my season form continues.
R1 Having a great battle with Wally in hot pursuit.  Wally pits on lap 11 and me on lap 12 to come out still slightly ahead but with cold tyres so I
battled to stay in front.  However a few laps later I just clipped the left side kerb as you approach the hill and got sideways, hit the fence and went skyward.  Engine destroyed game over.  >:(
Turns out neither of us were getting the DRS beep so the car in front of me got away and Wally and I were not passing each other!

R2 T3 first lap Simone tags me in the right rear and we all spin.  I get going, now at the back but on cold and now dirty tyres have my own spin and hit another fence  >:(.  This time taking out front suspension.
I proceeded to make the long and slow trek back to pits but could not turn left at all.  Unfortunately about half way back the field is approaching and just before they get to me I hit a bump and the car turns right from the grass, and straight across in front of the field ( I couldn't turn left to stop it )  SlowAs missed me but had a big misjudgment at the next right hander and wiped out.  I'm sure my car was a big distraction so big apologies to SlowAs.

Good choice of cars for the season (even if my results say otherwise ) and many thanks again to Wally.
Title: Re: S17R5: Zandvoort Post-Race Chat
Post by: grat on June 27, 2017, 10:53:47 PM
Before anything else, huge apologies to Bacchulum for the 2 (!!!) hits in race 1. Both from behind, completely my fault :(

There is not much racing in the practice servers, so this far into the season I still have huge problems in traffic...
Title: Re: S17R5: Zandvoort Post-Race Chat
Post by: grat on June 27, 2017, 11:02:04 PM
Oh, and pushing the wrong button (DRS) on the last lap while completely alone in 2nd... after starting 18th.... oh, .... what a night.

Anyway: I was hoping for a better night for my last one till October. But it was a fun season over all. Thanks as usually most of all to Wally for it! And all of you for the good fun.
Title: Re: S17R5: Zandvoort Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on June 27, 2017, 11:09:07 PM
R1 Having a great battle with Wally in hot pursuit.  Wally pits on lap 11 and me on lap 12 to come out still slightly ahead but with cold tyres so I
battled to stay in front.  However a few laps later I just clipped the left side kerb as you approach the hill and got sideways, hit the fence and went skyward.  Engine destroyed game over.  >:(
Turns out neither of us were getting the DRS beep so the car in front of me got away and Wally and I were not passing each other!

Yeah, that was a race of some frustration as I couldn't find a way past you. My DRS wasn't working, and didn't work in race 2 either. I was watching you every lap to see when you might pit, and I finally pitted on lap 11 trying for the undercut, but with a fixed pit time, the undercut doesn't really work. You came out just in front of me, so I thought "great, here we go again". It was still a pity to see you crash, because it was good battle up to that point. Some DRS would have made it interesting.

Sorry to Simone early in race 1, but I had to lift to avoid a crash when I was gaining too fast on Russ through those fast esses, which put Simone off behind me making him spin off track.

In race 2, I started from pole courtesy of the reverse top 8, but Mael already got me by turn 1. I'm a bit slow off the start - too much wheel spin. From there I hung on for a while despite the pressure I knew was coming, actually staying in 2nd or 3rd for most of the race. But on lap 13, I overcooked it and spun off into the barrier, which dropped me from 3rd to 5th, then 6th. So I wasted a few positions and a spot on the podium in the closing laps, but it was still my best result for the season.
Title: Re: S17R5: Zandvoort Post-Race Chat
Post by: Freezer on June 27, 2017, 11:18:25 PM
Yeah, that was a race of some frustration as I couldn't find a way past you. My DRS wasn't working, and didn't work in race 2 either.
I did what you said at half time and copied the file across and mine then worked in race 2.
Title: Re: S17R5: Zandvoort Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on June 27, 2017, 11:23:15 PM
Yeah, that was a race of some frustration as I couldn't find a way past you. My DRS wasn't working, and didn't work in race 2 either.
I did what you said at half time and copied the file across and mine then worked in race 2.
Did you restart AC altogether? I copied that file too but didn't restart AC and still didn't get any DRS. Maybe I screwed something up. Not to worry.
Title: Re: S17R5: Zandvoort Post-Race Chat
Post by: Freezer on June 27, 2017, 11:38:54 PM
Yeah, that was a race of some frustration as I couldn't find a way past you. My DRS wasn't working, and didn't work in race 2 either.
I did what you said at half time and copied the file across and mine then worked in race 2.
Did you restart AC altogether? I copied that file too but didn't restart AC and still didn't get any DRS. Maybe I screwed something up. Not to worry.
Yes restart..
Title: Re: S17R5: Zandvoort Post-Race Chat
Post by: Freezer on June 28, 2017, 12:07:39 AM
Race 2:
  • Freezer ran into the back of Slow_As at turn 1 when there was a big pack of slow cars in front of them both, pushing Slow_As off track – penalty, as Freezer entered turn 1 too fast.
  • Simone ran into the side of Freezer exiting turn, but was three wide with Seanus. I think this was a case of being unsighted, side by side. Although it ended messily, I don’t think anyone could have avoided that – racing incident.
Season is over so its not that important but a few thoughts.  Pic shows point of contact with Simone in the middle having drifted across from the right and hitting me as I was almost past him.  He could see me!
I was running down the white line and going past.
Re Slow As, unfortunately there was multiple brake stops by the front guys so I stopped, went, and the second stop tagged SlowAs so have to cop that one :)
Title: Re: S17R5: Zandvoort Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on June 28, 2017, 12:13:02 AM
There was an announcement about one more race, due to popular interest :)

I watched the replay carefully. Yes, Simone did run into you from the side, but he was on the racing line and avoiding Seanus to his right as you were passing from behind and left. Bearing in mind that it was all happening quite quickly after your earlier incident with Slow_As, I don't think he had time to see or react to you as the cars became three wide.
Title: Re: S17R5: Zandvoort Post-Race Chat
Post by: Freezer on June 28, 2017, 12:19:41 AM
There was an announcement about one more race, due to popular interest :)
Ah, didn't know that was confirmed . . . but I also realise that am away next week re School holidays so sadly won't make it.
Title: Re: S17R5: Zandvoort Post-Race Chat
Post by: Joe on June 28, 2017, 12:53:11 AM
Race 1 was going quite well. Early battling with kcender then a chase on shayne. In lapping djb he said I pushed him off track; I did squeeze more than intended but thought there was still a car width there. Sorry if not the case.

After pit stop I came out to see cars appear on the track map so tried to hug the insidr of t1 but went wider than intended on cold tyres. At the same time i saw a car go off track on helicorsa and assumed i caused it so i slowed to redress. Turned out shayne wrnt off on his own and i just let kcender and Jeremy by. A lap later i spun and damaged front wing allowing shayne by then had a good chase with him catching quite quickly due to his damage but ran out of laps.

Race 2 probably should have been my first tuesday night win but was not to be. I'd jumped on the practise sever bu accident and set fuel for the 10 laps that was set for then didn't change it after getting in to the race server. I realised early on and set up a pitstop for a quick splash n dash. I could see wally was holding up matthew so i tried to make as big of a gap as i could before pitting. As soon as matthew got past him i went in. I was 5.5 second ahead at that point with 6 laps to go so a bit annoying as could have won it.

I'll miss next week due to school holidays so looks like a wally and phil battle for 2nd in the team standings.
Title: Re: S17R5: Zandvoort Post-Race Chat
Post by: djb1974 on June 28, 2017, 07:29:19 AM
Great night of racing. really had to stay focused or lose it off track or into a wall.  HUGE SORRY to Phil, when Joe shot past me in turn 2, i was trying to hold my line to the left getting ready to let him by on the straight part b4 the left hairpin, but he jumped me in the chicane, i think in panic not to hit him i pulled hard left to give him room and hit the curb then the fence. Needing to pit with no front wing i limped it back to pits and up over the hill trying to keep far left, poor phil crashed into me, spun and did massive damage. with no down force i had to slow down up over the hill, and with the racing line on that corner moving from the left to the right, i was never going to be completely out of the way through that turn.  the race ended with a great battle with Seanus, i was slowly catching him, last lap through the hairpin i dropped a wheel off to the right on the dirt which sent me into the left side fence, but those were good laps mate chasing you down.

Race 2 avoided all the start trouble, just, managed to get up into 12th spot for a bit till i had to pit to fix damage from an off, concentrating so hard managed to pull PB best times of 1m24.4s i was so buggered after that race, it gave me a small insight at how alien you fast guys must be, to hold your pace all race, lol. 
Title: Re: S17R5: Zandvoort Post-Race Chat
Post by: Simone on June 28, 2017, 09:44:27 AM
Yes wally in race one i was expecting you to loose your car there so when i saw that i slow a bit in order to avoid you but i think someone else had the same eaction and hit me in the back sending me on the sand.

Yes freezer sorry for that but i was in the middle trying to escape from both of you guys and ,,,ye nobody gave an inch......sorry!!!


A shitty night,actually a complete disaster,i was prepared(i love this track) but after i slam the car in the straight in a full noob way...i never recovered.

So i had to option......1) taking my blood pressure pill  2)  pour a bit more of cinzano in my glass and going to bed.

I choose both...on the safe side you know.    See you next week....geeee i am disappointed!!!!
Title: Re: S17R5: Zandvoort Post-Race Chat
Post by: Bacchulum on June 28, 2017, 10:02:48 AM
Before anything else, huge apologies to Bacchulum for the 2 (!!!) hits in race 1. Both from behind, completely my fault :(

There is not much racing in the practice servers, so this far into the season I still have huge problems in traffic...
Don't sweat it.
I started to get angry but then put it down to karma, for all the other people I punted during the season. :(
Title: Re: S17R5: Zandvoort Post-Race Chat
Post by: Phil.8 on June 28, 2017, 10:18:10 AM


The biggest mover in the season standings is Phil, who dropped five places from 5th to 10th this round.


I need to re look at my strategy, I think I moved the wrong way
Title: Re: S17R5: Zandvoort Post-Race Chat
Post by: Mael on June 28, 2017, 10:44:30 AM
Race 1: Stayed out of trouble with a clean and consistent drive to the finish. Tried to block Jeremy a couple of times but my setup was just too slow down the finish straight.

Race 2: Disaster upon disaster. A good start to pass Wally into T1 but many mistakes from there on culminating with a destroyed front wing lap 3(ish). Made my way slowly to the pits for repair and from there on focused on irritating Kero as mush as possible. Sorry Kero someone had to suffer for my misfortunes  ;D
Title: Re: S17R5: Zandvoort Post-Race Chat
Post by: Joe on June 28, 2017, 03:32:13 PM
many mistakes from there on culminating with a destroyed front wing lap 3(ish).

I believe you destroyed it on the back of my car  ;D
Title: Re: S17R5: Zandvoort Post-Race Chat
Post by: Joe on June 28, 2017, 03:35:55 PM
I'll miss next week due to school holidays so looks like a wally and phil battle for 2nd in the team standings.

Scrap that. Holiday delayed till the following week so will be there.
Title: Re: S17R5: Zandvoort Post-Race Chat
Post by: RussG on June 28, 2017, 04:20:13 PM
I had to lift to avoid a crash when I was gaining too fast on Russ through those fast esses, which put Simone off behind me making him spin off track.
Sorry Wally, I backed off a little because I was gaining on Mael and didn't wan't to hit the back of him and it wasn't a place to attempt a pass.

Race 1: Was cruising along nicely in a good position. Pitted at half distance for the tyre change. Came out on cold tyres and Jeremy caught up with me while I was warming them. I was protecting the line to make it hard for him to pass when he tapped me in the rear spinning me off. Had trouble turning around so lost a bundle of time. Pretty happy to recover to 10th.

Race 2: DISASTER!! Started OK. Had a slight tangle with grat. Then on lap 2 I was following Phil into the fast right hander when he went off. That was OK, but as I went around the turn Kcender was on the left of the track recovering from an off. I tried to hold it in tighter so I wouldn't hit him, but lost the rear and speared into the fence. It was a big enough hit to kill the engine. Then I made the mistake of escaping and EXITING instead of Back to Pits. Lost a lap, but rejoined. Forgot to load my setup so it was slow and a dog to drive for the rest of the race, but kept on and finished :)

Looking forward to the next one.
Title: Re: S17R5: Zandvoort Post-Race Chat
Post by: Mael on June 28, 2017, 04:36:47 PM
many mistakes from there on culminating with a destroyed front wing lap 3(ish).

I believe you destroyed it on the back of my car  ;D

Not sure whom I hit, but that person was having a slow spin which cause me to hit them. If it was you Joe then you responsible for my broken nose cone, will be sending the bill.  ;D
Title: Re: S17R5: Zandvoort Post-Race Chat
Post by: Joe on June 28, 2017, 05:48:15 PM
many mistakes from there on culminating with a destroyed front wing lap 3(ish).

I believe you destroyed it on the back of my car  ;D

Not sure whom I hit, but that person was having a slow spin which cause me to hit them. If it was you Joe then you responsible for my broken nose cone, will be sending the bill.  ;D

No spin. I took you down the straight on about lap 3 and you tapped me from behind going into T1  :P
Title: Re: S17R5: Zandvoort Post-Race Chat
Post by: Mael on June 28, 2017, 06:43:29 PM
many mistakes from there on culminating with a destroyed front wing lap 3(ish).

I believe you destroyed it on the back of my car  ;D

Not sure whom I hit, but that person was having a slow spin which cause me to hit them. If it was you Joe then you responsible for my broken nose cone, will be sending the bill.  ;D

No spin. I took you down the straight on about lap 3 and you tapped me from behind going into T1  :P

Ah no that was only a love tap  ;D  When I say a destroyed wing i mean a Maldonado-ated wing, left me with a undrivable car.

The contact into T1 was a bit of a misjudgement. I knew you were going to overtake so left enough space. Thought I'll let you by and turn in just behind your rear wing. Unfortunately you turned in a bit later than I expected so instead I steered straight into your rear wheel,
Title: Re: S17R5: Zandvoort Post-Race Chat
Post by: ab156 on June 28, 2017, 08:18:18 PM
I am going to miss these cars. Interesting to hear others finding them so tough, I actually think they are quite a stable platform and the racing has been outstanding.  That said, I never take wing off  ::)

Race 1
Happy with qualifying, made a good start and settled in for a good race.  Got a love tap from Jeremy in T6, I was a bit slow in, dropping me back a few position. After that I was holding pace with the pack looking for a gap to pit into.  Every time I got close to someone they pitted so I kept circulating with a few seconds clear in front.  Pitted out of the lead as I caught the back of the field with Matthew just over a second behind.  Came out right behind Shayne with cold, fresh rubber - started to close in for the final few laps when I entered T4 0.78mm wide and the car jumped sideways then onto the curb then airborne into the opposite fence.  Damn, there goes 4th.. did the obligatory 8 point turn so as not to block the track, trundeled home to 9th.. 1 spot from pole for Race 2.  Missed opportunity.

Race 2
Started from 9th, always good in a reverse grid race ... decided to just try and hook onto the back of the fast guys and bluff my way pass... turned out to be a massively fun race.  The race results pretty much sum it up:
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Hunted: ab156 (avg gap to car behind 1.23 secs)
Busiest: ab156 (avg total gap in front and behind 2.96 secs)
Spent the entire race locked in battle with various guys.  All a bit of a blur but a do recall some more clean, fair and hard racing with my new buddy Shayne.  In the last 3 rounds we have spend 10's of laps less than a second apart - always clean and tough racing.  I managed to use DRS on the straight to get a clean pass in this time - looking forward to the next battle!  In the early part of the race there were 5 guys locked in battle behind Matthew111, making places up as people fell off.  I got a bit wide in T3/4 after messing up onto the straight and getting passed by Shayne Kcender and Grat which dropped me back a bit. Closed back in as those 3 raced, unfortunately 2 went off at T3 the next lap so I was back in 4th.  After Wally went off I ended up in 3rd with damaged but faster Phil behind me for the last 3 laps, focused on exits (and maybe a few narrow entries  8) ) to hold him back, I think he got blocked by someone trying to get out of the way on the last lap which probably saved me.  Put so much pressure on Grat he went for a foul DRS so inherited 2nd - that's my version.  Bad luck to Joe and Grat but I was stocked to bring it home.

On to Donnington.
Title: Re: S17R5: Zandvoort Post-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on June 28, 2017, 10:56:15 PM
You've been getting consistently good results AB, as shown by your 5th place in  the standings.
Title: Re: S17R5: Zandvoort Post-Race Chat
Post by: KeRo on June 29, 2017, 03:19:40 PM
and from there on focused on irritating Kero as mush as possible. Sorry Kero someone had to suffer for my misfortunes  ;D

All good Mael, you did some good defensive driving  ;)

Race 1

Probably could've qualified a bit better but wanted to focus on running my race setup. In saying that I was happy to qualify 3rd (I think). Made a clean start behind Mathew and just after turn 1 was trying to hold my line and think I slightly rubbed tyres with Grat. After that, cant remember what lap it was but made a mistake and made contact with a wall so I took the opportunity to pit and repair my car. I could go on but long story short, very happy to come in 2nd in the first race.

Race 2

Think from my position shortly after the start (with a bit of luck) I was in a good position to push for a win considering Mathew was a couple of places behind me, but as usual I got a bit excited got on the gas a bit early and put it into the wall. Made my way back to the pits repaired my car and then proceeded to chase Mael for the rest of the race, I could catch him but couldn't find my way past, then I would make a mistake trying to pass and the process would repeat ALL RACE  :P Well done Mael ;)

Anyway, I'm having a great time racing with you all, can't wait for the next race!

Title: Re: S17R5: Zandvoort Post-Race Chat
Post by: Matthew111 on June 29, 2017, 08:30:18 PM
Was very happy to have a sweep for the night :) qual was intense being very close so was happy to top it off with a nice lap in the end.

Race 1 i didnt get a great launch so phil jumped me but then i saw he got a drs penalty so my plan was to just lap with him and not risk anything, was a great pressure race with some decent times being posted but after the pits i inherited the lead after phil got caught up with the lapped traffic. Cruised home and went for the fastest lap a few times to secure maximum points :)

Race 2 i felt like dan ric a bit with everyone in front of me making mistakes so i just gravitated to the lead lol and once again went for the fastest lap and cruised for the win
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