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Dec 20 fun run - Porsche 935/78 and 917/30 at Riverside NASCAR

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Re: Dec 20 fun run - Porsche 935/78 and 917/30 at Riverside NASCAR
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2016, 11:44:03 AM »
In the warmup/practice, I'll have both cars available, so people can jump in and out of each car (12 of each car). Then race 1 will be everyone in the 917, and race 2 will be everyone in the Moby Dick.
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Re: Dec 20 fun run - Porsche 935/78 and 917/30 at Riverside NASCAR
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2016, 11:14:38 PM »
I just remembered I likely wont be home in time for the races Tuesday, shame as they could be a bit of fun in these.

I ran a few laps in Moby tonight and think I prefer the 917 here. The 935 could do with 1 or 2 more gears being down on power a bit. It also seems to need even more patience through the esses but will likely be easier to race close with others. The 917 has so much power I cant see it needing more then 4 gears anywhere as you dont really want to be too high in rpm on exits to keep some control of the rear end.

Both cars I found no advantage in any rear wing or even the Guerney, it seems it adds a little rear traction but at sacrificing some speed and more understeer. Having it off and simply using less throttle gives more speed and equal traction so I went with that option.  ;)
« Last Edit: December 19, 2016, 07:14:21 AM by marty »

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Re: Dec 20 fun run - Porsche 935/78 and 917/30 at Riverside NASCAR
« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2016, 12:25:24 AM »
For those interested about gurney flaps:
http://www.formula1-dictionary.net/gurney_flap.html

Fixed link, i blame "copy and paste" for the error  ;D
« Last Edit: December 19, 2016, 11:21:39 AM by Mael »

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Re: Dec 20 fun run - Porsche 935/78 and 917/30 at Riverside NASCAR
« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2016, 01:23:17 AM »
« Last Edit: December 19, 2016, 01:27:19 AM by Shameless_1 »
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Re: Dec 20 fun run - Porsche 935/78 and 917/30 at Riverside NASCAR
« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2016, 07:33:16 AM »
Now I know what a gurney flap is.
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Re: Dec 20 fun run - Porsche 935/78 and 917/30 at Riverside NASCAR
« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2016, 03:21:25 PM »
I have a feeling if Bacchulum likes 'em, I'm gunna have problems, and possibly dislike them
:)
« Last Edit: December 19, 2016, 04:33:29 PM by Bruce »
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Re: Dec 20 fun run - Porsche 935/78 and 917/30 at Riverside NASCAR
« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2016, 03:21:38 PM »
With the guerney flap it seems to work as mentioned in that link in game. However with these cars at this track the last thing you need is extra drag or more aero understeer. That is unless your aim is to go slower and make it harder for yourself.  ;)

I was about .5 slower with the Guerney mostly due to the extra push in the esses and entry to the final turn. Exit out of last turn it was a slight gain but overall a fair loser. That was the 935 and I didnt do any real comparison in the 917 with it on or off. 917 was so much fun and quick enough without it that I wouldnt bother with it here.

Drag was not a big issue losing only .1 or so at the end of the back straight but it was also more pushy going flat into the left kink. Lifting there is fairly big loss and also it seemed to get me into full boost a bit too soon on some exits where it would then spin rears meaning it needed a big lift well after the apex and thats never ideal.

I would rather feed power a bit smoother and get full power with front wheels as straight as possible so wheelspin is not an issue as the boost kicks in.

Maybe some extra patience on exits it could be closer to min aero no guerney lap times but in a race at this track id prefer as much speed as possible and take out as much aero push as possible in the couple corners that matter assuning I wanted to be as quick as possible and be able to pass cars if needed.

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Re: Dec 20 fun run - Porsche 935/78 and 917/30 at Riverside NASCAR
« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2016, 03:35:26 PM »
I have a feeling if Bacchulum likes 'em, I'm gunna have problems, and possibly dislike them
If you like driving at 350+kph you will love it Bruce  ;D
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Re: Dec 20 fun run - Porsche 935/78 and 917/30 at Riverside NASCAR
« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2016, 03:54:11 PM »
I have a feeling if Bacchulum likes 'em, I'm gunna have problems, and possibly dislike them
If you like driving at 350+kph you will love it Bruce  ;D

In a car that doesn't turn or like to stop  ;D

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Re: Dec 20 fun run - Porsche 935/78 and 917/30 at Riverside NASCAR
« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2016, 04:22:21 PM »
I have a feeling if Bacchulum likes 'em, I'm gunna have problems, and possibly dislike them
If you like driving at 350+kph you will love it Bruce  ;D

In a car that doesn't turn or like to stop  ;D
You just have to lower your expectations about stopping in a hurry, and brake earlier :)
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Re: Dec 20 fun run - Porsche 935/78 and 917/30 at Riverside NASCAR
« Reply #25 on: December 19, 2016, 04:35:08 PM »
I have a feeling if Bacchulum likes 'em, I'm gunna have problems, and possibly dislike them
If you like driving at 350+kph you will love it Bruce  ;D

In a car that doesn't turn or like to stop  ;D
You just have to lower your expectations about stopping in a hurry, and brake earlier :)
Haha,  sounding easier all the time  :'(
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Re: Dec 20 fun run - Porsche 935/78 and 917/30 at Riverside NASCAR
« Reply #26 on: December 19, 2016, 06:22:18 PM »
I reckon the Can-Am should be called Moby Dick, with all the whale-song coming off its brakes. ;D

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Re: Dec 20 fun run - Porsche 935/78 and 917/30 at Riverside NASCAR
« Reply #27 on: December 20, 2016, 02:59:27 PM »
Unfortunately I'm not going to make it tonight either. I'll be home, but drunk and playing cards.
Pity, I like cars that make me feel slow and foolish rather than just plain slow.
Have fun  :D

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Re: Dec 20 fun run - Porsche 935/78 and 917/30 at Riverside NASCAR
« Reply #28 on: December 20, 2016, 03:28:25 PM »
Unfortunately I'm not going to make it tonight either. I'll be home, but drunk and playing cars.
No-one plays pCars. :P :P

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Re: Dec 20 fun run - Porsche 935/78 and 917/30 at Riverside NASCAR
« Reply #29 on: December 20, 2016, 06:14:59 PM »
Unfortunately I'm not going to make it tonight either. I'll be home, but drunk and playing cars.
No-one plays pCars. :P :P

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