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Re: S19R2: Spa Race Chat
« Reply #30 on: October 19, 2017, 11:57:42 PM »
A bit of a root around because the original OSRW mod for Spa was just called spa_osrw, but the modder changed it to spa_osrw113 at some stage  ::)
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Re: S19R2: Spa Race Chat
« Reply #31 on: October 20, 2017, 08:26:10 PM »
To my Toyota bros I attached the setup Ill be running it feels pretty good I haven't done a huge amount of work to it but its something lol, you may need to pump the tyre pressures up for the track temps I found 34 hot worked nice and 7th gear may need to be longer.
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Re: S19R2: Spa Race Chat
« Reply #32 on: October 20, 2017, 10:55:44 PM »
Well I wish  in never picked the Ferrari, suss out that first sector difference,  its only 20 kph slower up kemmel straight :(  gain a littler in the slower middle sector then lose again in the last, will be a 2.17 at least in the Nismo, Probably .16 even,  already peaked in the Ferrari .

Phil.8            ks_nissan_gtr_gt3        02:18.913     00:39.693    01:02.720    00:36.500   2 laps
Shameless_1    ks_mercedes_amg_gt3 02:19.820    00:39.995    01:03.156    00:36.669
Phil.8    ks_ferrari_488_gt3               02:21.345    00:41.246    01:02.929    00:37.170  6 laps completed  100 smashed

http://52.63.217.129:50041/lapstat
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Re: S19R2: Spa Race Chat
« Reply #33 on: October 21, 2017, 03:34:21 AM »
Well I wish  in never picked the Ferrari, suss out that first sector difference,  its only 20 kph slower up kemmel straight :(  gain a littler in the slower middle sector then lose again in the last, will be a 2.17 at least in the Nismo, Probably .16 even,  already peaked in the Ferrari .

Phil.8            ks_nissan_gtr_gt3        02:18.913     00:39.693    01:02.720    00:36.500   2 laps
Shameless_1    ks_mercedes_amg_gt3 02:19.820    00:39.995    01:03.156    00:36.669
Phil.8    ks_ferrari_488_gt3               02:21.345    00:41.246    01:02.929    00:37.170  6 laps completed  100 smashed

http://52.63.217.129:50041/lapstat

The ferrari for me has always been a twitchy car, and really fussy on setup.  I know it can go faster than a 2:21 at spa.

try this Phil.. 2:15   copy the setup from this youtube vid https://youtu.be/S6Vl7FTYJx8?t=149
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Re: S19R2: Spa Race Chat
« Reply #34 on: October 21, 2017, 11:17:23 AM »
To my Toyota bros I attached the setup Ill be running it feels pretty good I haven't done a huge amount of work to it but its something lol, you may need to pump the tyre pressures up for the track temps I found 34 hot worked nice and 7th gear may need to be longer.
Stracker shows your top speed is "only" 299kph (I can hit 325), but your aero doesn't look overly aggressive in your setup. And you got a 1:59. What's going on there? 
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Re: S19R2: Spa Race Chat
« Reply #35 on: October 21, 2017, 04:53:09 PM »
Well I wish  in never picked the Ferrari, suss out that first sector difference,  its only 20 kph slower up kemmel straight :(  gain a littler in the slower middle sector then lose again in the last, will be a 2.17 at least in the Nismo, Probably .16 even,  already peaked in the Ferrari .

Phil.8            ks_nissan_gtr_gt3        02:18.913     00:39.693    01:02.720    00:36.500   2 laps
Shameless_1    ks_mercedes_amg_gt3 02:19.820    00:39.995    01:03.156    00:36.669
Phil.8    ks_ferrari_488_gt3               02:21.345    00:41.246    01:02.929    00:37.170  6 laps completed  100 smashed

http://52.63.217.129:50041/lapstat

The ferrari for me has always been a twitchy car, and really fussy on setup.  I know it can go faster than a 2:21 at spa.

try this Phil.. 2:15   copy the setup from this youtube vid https://youtu.be/S6Vl7FTYJx8?t=149

Thanks, will give it a go
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Re: S19R2: Spa Race Chat
« Reply #36 on: October 21, 2017, 05:09:57 PM »
Never seen that way of sharing a setup before! :o

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Re: S19R2: Spa Race Chat
« Reply #37 on: October 21, 2017, 07:02:41 PM »
Never seen that way of sharing a setup before! :o
It's the damn youtube generation.
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Re: S19R2: Spa Race Chat
« Reply #38 on: October 21, 2017, 07:28:16 PM »
Never seen that way of sharing a setup before! :o
It's the damn youtube generation.
If all our knowledge is being shared by youtube, we're all f*#ked! :o

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Re: S19R2: Spa Race Chat
« Reply #39 on: October 21, 2017, 08:27:50 PM »
Why?
Anyway, great skills there. Interesting gear ratio. Should actually try it out, but just looking at the numbers I wouldn't be surprised if I struggled doing better than a 2:30 with it :-)
Err, guess I was wrong. Just checked the latest lap times, that setup seems to work...great!
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Re: S19R2: Spa Race Chat
« Reply #40 on: October 21, 2017, 09:58:44 PM »
Just a comment.

GT3 drivers would need to be positive about which side of the track they going to go after Eau Rouge. The LMP will be doing around 315 on the exit on Eau Rouge and trying to pass GT3's safely will be impossible if we  need to guess which side to go. So pick a side, left or right, it does not matter. But do it immediately.    8)

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Re: S19R2: Spa Race Chat
« Reply #41 on: October 22, 2017, 12:04:52 AM »


Just a comment.

GT3 drivers would need to be positive about which side of the track they going to go after Eau Rouge. The LMP will be doing around 315 on the exit on Eau Rouge and trying to pass GT3's safely will be impossible if we  need to guess which side to go. So pick a side, left or right, it does not matter. But do it immediately.    8)

As an LMP driver coming out of Eau Rouge you will have to be cautious. All GT3 cars will be on the right, but will merge back to the left for the straight, this is what I was doing when you side swiped me and put me into a wall, you came out lightning fast and I had no time to avoid.  So all LMP drivers will have to show caution coming out at the top and it makes sense that they should all stick to the right and show some patience.  I really don't want to see LMP drivers diving under brakes into a corner and forcing GT3 cars out wide and off the racing line for a second race either.  In the few areas where the racing line crosses from one side to the other of the circuit to line up for the next corner LMP drivers will just have to wait for a clear path rather than make one.  Both sets of drivers will have to check the track map more to see what is happening around them,
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Re: S19R2: Spa Race Chat
« Reply #42 on: October 22, 2017, 08:10:01 AM »


Just a comment.

GT3 drivers would need to be positive about which side of the track they going to go after Eau Rouge. The LMP will be doing around 315 on the exit on Eau Rouge and trying to pass GT3's safely will be impossible if we  need to guess which side to go. So pick a side, left or right, it does not matter. But do it immediately.    8)

As an LMP driver coming out of Eau Rouge you will have to be cautious. All GT3 cars will be on the right, but will merge back to the left for the straight, this is what I was doing when you side swiped me and put me into a wall, you came out lightning fast and I had no time to avoid.  So all LMP drivers will have to show caution coming out at the top and it makes sense that they should all stick to the right and show some patience.  I really don't want to see LMP drivers diving under brakes into a corner and forcing GT3 cars out wide and off the racing line for a second race either.  In the few areas where the racing line crosses from one side to the other of the circuit to line up for the next corner LMP drivers will just have to wait for a clear path rather than make one.  Both sets of drivers will have to check the track map more to see what is happening around them,

All cars will exit Eau Rouge on the right and be on the right through the following Radillon left hander, before moving over to the left up Kemmel. It's the natural line. I think the only way LMP1 and GT3 are going to play nicely through there is for the LMP1s to be patient through Eau Rouge and Radillon, as that's not a place for passing at the best of times, and wait for the pass on Kemmel (probably on the right of the GT3). It will mean the LMP1's sacrifice a lot of top speed by the end of the straight without a flat out run through Eau Rouge, but that's what will have to be done if you're going to safely pass a GT3 there.

LMP1 drivers will have to be aware of what GT3's are ahead of them, right back from La Source, and plan their move accordingly.
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Re: S19R2: Spa Race Chat
« Reply #43 on: October 22, 2017, 08:33:14 AM »
I'm just a little concerned with trend.
When an LMP1 driver asks the GT3 driver for a heads up, the response seems to be you're on your own, you work it out.
If we all work together we can have a clean race but if some GT3 drivers are just going to ignore the fact that there are LMP1's out there, then crashes will follow.

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Re: S19R2: Spa Race Chat
« Reply #44 on: October 22, 2017, 10:24:53 AM »
I'm just a little concerned with trend.
When an LMP1 driver asks the GT3 driver for a heads up, the response seems to be you're on your own, you work it out.
If we all work together we can have a clean race but if some GT3 drivers are just going to ignore the fact that there are LMP1's out there, then crashes will follow.
I concur. It will always need awareness from both classes. However the LMP1 is the one doing the passing, so the onus is primarily on the LMP1 to make a safe pass.
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