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Title: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Wally on November 27, 2018, 10:55:47 PM
Kcender wins the race to move up into 2nd place, but Matthew still holds a healthy lead after finishing second. Keith also moves up into 3rd with a 4th placing. Other movers up the leaderboard include Joe and Jeremy. After Matthew's lead, the champsionship standings are tight at the top, with only 8 points separating 2nd and 6th.

RACE RESULTS (https://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2018/12/s25r4-imsa-gt-at-riverside.html)
SEASON STANDINGS (https://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2018/11/season-25-standings.html)
SEASON STATS (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nu52lWM6_TIRBEGCTF32BxLe8mobfsCFpd_wOeuxpXI/edit?usp=sharing)

Round Points
Kcender87   29
Matthew111   25
Phil.8   20
Keith   18
Joe   16
Jeremy   15
ab156   14
Shayne   13
Freezer   12 (dropped 2 positions due to post-race penalty)
killagorilla   11
bradc   10
Bacchulum   9  (dropped 1 position due to post-race penalty)
Bird   8
Doobs   7
Mael   6
Seanus   5
Rob   4
Wally   3
RussG   2
AbleArcher83   1

Congratulations to Kcender on taking out pole position and the race win, and to Matthew for the fastest race lap.

Penalties - 15 second post race time penalty next race
None - a very clean opening lap with only 1 minor rub.

Season Standings
1. Matthew111, 84
2. Kcender87, 59
3. Keith, 53



Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long (2 stops) [TRACK (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/riverside-international-raceway.9492)]

This race again has two compulsory pitstops. The fuel multiplier is 1.5x. Can the short tail drivers tell me if this works for 2 stops!

The following drivers have a 15 second post-race time penalty:
Freezer
Bacchulum
RussG
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: RussG on November 28, 2018, 12:06:19 AM
The following drivers have a 15 second post-race time penalty:
Freezer
Bacchulum
RussG
Hahah - all Short Tail drivers.
Won't matter at this track anyway as I think we will be lapped twice again  :o  ::)
But with the same penalty we can keep alive the battle of the Shorties  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Wally on November 28, 2018, 07:32:59 AM
Yeah, I expect this track will suit the straight line speed of the Mercs again.

Looking at the last round's results, the lap times were pretty equal across the makes, but I might lower the Short Tail ballast just a little to compensate for the longer refuelling times. The Long Tail also takes a while to refuel, but the Short Tail takes longer, so I'll just uncork it a little.


Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Bird on November 28, 2018, 08:57:54 AM
The following drivers have a 15 second post-race time penalty:
Freezer
Bacchulum
RussG
Hahah - all Short Tail drivers.
I don't have a penalty ;)


Yeah, I expect this track will suit the straight line speed of the Mercs again.

Looking at the last round's results, the lap times were pretty equal across the makes, but I might lower the Short Tail ballast just a little to compensate for the longer refuelling times. The Long Tail also takes a while to refuel, but the Short Tail takes longer, so I'll just uncork it a little.

Also, the long tail still has the power edge on the short tail.   
I've a tingling feeling these cars are well balanced for long races w/o messing with ballast & restrictors - the quicker times of the short tail are offset enough by the straight-line speed & slow refill at pit stop & extra fuel usage, probably. 
Maybe more than enough with 2 stops...
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Freezer on November 28, 2018, 03:24:45 PM
Looking at the last round's results, the lap times were pretty equal across the makes, but I might lower the Short Tail ballast just a little to compensate for the longer refuelling times. The Long Tail also takes a while to refuel, but the Short Tail takes longer, so I'll just uncork it a little.
I think its not just a time comparison.  A Merc catching a shorty will simply drive past it on the next straight and not much can be done about it.  Whereas a shorty catching a Merc in the bends is a whole different situation and often leads to being slowed and/or a high risk pass.
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Bird on November 28, 2018, 04:24:08 PM
Looking at the last round's results, the lap times were pretty equal across the makes, but I might lower the Short Tail ballast just a little to compensate for the longer refuelling times. The Long Tail also takes a while to refuel, but the Short Tail takes longer, so I'll just uncork it a little.
I think its not just a time comparison.  A Merc catching a shorty will simply drive past it on the next straight and not much can be done about it.  Whereas a shorty catching a Merc in the bends is a whole different situation and often leads to being slowed and/or a high risk pass.
Actually any other car catching the shorty will do that without much issue.
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Bird on November 28, 2018, 08:21:43 PM
Ok, did some laps in the short tail
One tank is predicted for 20 laps ( ~1.32.mid / lap ). 
That means it can probably just do it on one stop if my calculator is correct.   Two stops - not a problem.
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: RussG on November 28, 2018, 11:36:30 PM
The following drivers have a 15 second post-race time penalty:
Freezer
Bacchulum
RussG
Hahah - all Short Tail drivers.
I don't have a penalty ;)
We penalised Shorty drivers will be doing our darndest to make up 15 seconds on you then  :P
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Wally on November 29, 2018, 07:23:05 AM
Ok, did some laps in the short tail
One tank is predicted for 20 laps ( ~1.32.mid / lap ). 
That means it can probably just do it on one stop if my calculator is correct.   Two stops - not a problem.
Ok, thanks, that's all good then. Remember, two stops are compulsory even if you can do it in one.
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Wally on November 29, 2018, 10:20:35 PM
I've made the ballast for the Short Tails a paltry 10kg (practice server updated). By my maths and testing, they should be roughly on a par with the Long Tails for overall race duration once you factor in lap times and pit stop durations.

Mazdas and Mercs are still doing their own thing, with their own set of swings and roundabouts.
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Bird on November 30, 2018, 11:53:18 AM
I've made the ballast for the Short Tails a paltry 10kg (practice server updated). By my maths and testing, they should be roughly on a par with the Long Tails for overall race duration once you factor in lap times and pit stop durations.

Mazdas and Mercs are still doing their own thing, with their own set of swings and roundabouts.


Nice! Thanks.
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Mael on November 30, 2018, 01:55:15 PM
The following drivers have a 15 second post-race time penalty:
Freezer
Bacchulum
RussG
Hahah - all Short Tail drivers.
Won't matter at this track anyway as I think we will be lapped twice again  :o  ::)
But with the same penalty we can keep alive the battle of the Shorties  ;D ;D ;D

I've made the ballast for the Short Tails a paltry 10kg (practice server updated).
So let me get this right. The Shorties keep on crashing into people so you give them a reward?  :P
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: killagorilla on November 30, 2018, 06:54:21 PM
The following drivers have a 15 second post-race time penalty:
Freezer
Bacchulum
RussG
Hahah - all Short Tail drivers.
Won't matter at this track anyway as I think we will be lapped twice again  :o  ::)
But with the same penalty we can keep alive the battle of the Shorties  ;D ;D ;D

I've made the ballast for the Short Tails a paltry 10kg (practice server updated).
So let me get this right. The Shorties keep on crashing into people so you give them a reward?  :P
Preventative measure mate. The car in front of you won't shoot you off the track  ;)
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Wally on November 30, 2018, 09:18:47 PM
The following drivers have a 15 second post-race time penalty:
Freezer
Bacchulum
RussG
Hahah - all Short Tail drivers.
Won't matter at this track anyway as I think we will be lapped twice again  :o ::)
But with the same penalty we can keep alive the battle of the Shorties  ;D ;D ;D

I've made the ballast for the Short Tails a paltry 10kg (practice server updated).
So let me get this right. The Shorties keep on crashing into people so you give them a reward?  :P
Maybe people will drive more safely in a faster car ;)
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Freezer on December 01, 2018, 08:51:18 PM
Lowndes to drive the 962  . .  at Adelaide!
https://www.speedcafe.com/2018/12/01/lowndes-to-drive-le-mans-porsche-962/ (https://www.speedcafe.com/2018/12/01/lowndes-to-drive-le-mans-porsche-962/)
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Joe on December 01, 2018, 09:57:35 PM
I reckon I could get in the 1:30s in the Mazda if I could do that damn corner onto the back straight better. Any time I try to go any faster I end up in the sand.

Think the short tails have the advantage over the Mazda now as they're much faster through the corners and are hitting the same top speed. Freezers first sector is a lot faster than mine and I'm flat for the majority of it.
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Freezer on December 01, 2018, 10:34:08 PM
Think the short tails have the advantage over the Mazda now as they're much faster through the corners and are hitting the same top speed. Freezers first sector is a lot faster than mine and I'm flat for the majority of it.
And about time the shorty's were faster . . . but don't forget our mega pit stop!
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Joe on December 01, 2018, 10:51:52 PM
Think the short tails have the advantage over the Mazda now as they're much faster through the corners and are hitting the same top speed. Freezers first sector is a lot faster than mine and I'm flat for the majority of it.
And about time the shorty's were faster . . . but don't forget our mega pit stop!

ah this is true. my best is about 0.5 secs slower than you which I'm sure I could improve on slightly
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Wally on December 02, 2018, 08:15:37 AM
Yes, the whole point of making the Shorty's a little faster was to compensate for the longer pit stop times.
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: doobs on December 02, 2018, 09:17:59 AM
So, single make series from now on Wally?
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Bird on December 02, 2018, 02:44:26 PM
So, single make series from now on Wally?
Multi series can work well, but it takes a bit to balance them out.
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Wally on December 02, 2018, 04:17:58 PM
So, single make series from now on Wally?
Multi series can work well, but it takes a bit to balance them out.
[/qWhat he said. Multi series is fun to race against different cars with strengths and weaknesses, but you have to be careful with the balance.
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Simone on December 03, 2018, 08:18:29 PM
Hey guys i know you could not care any less but i wont race tomorrow.
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Wally on December 03, 2018, 08:26:48 PM
Hey guys i know you could not care any less but i wont race tomorrow.
Of course we care!
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Simone on December 03, 2018, 08:36:48 PM
Hey guys i know you could not care any less but i wont race tomorrow.
Of course we care!
d
Thx wally...... :-* :-* :-* :-*.simply i had no time for practice this time
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Phil.8 on December 03, 2018, 09:09:32 PM
I CARE
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Joe on December 03, 2018, 09:41:48 PM
where did that 30.1 come from Phil :o
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: grat on December 04, 2018, 07:07:23 AM
Hi guys: I am back but in a similar situation to Simone. I'll do my best to do at least a few laps in the late afternoon, but it's quite possible I won't be able to race tonight. Sorry.
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Wally on December 04, 2018, 09:52:07 AM
Hey guys i know you could not care any less but i wont race tomorrow.
Of course we care!
d
Thx wally...... :-* :-* :-* :-* .simply i had no time for practice this time
I've done bugger all practice too. I'm just going to rely on my natural talent and skill.
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Mael on December 04, 2018, 11:40:35 AM
Hey guys i know you could not care any less but i wont race tomorrow.
Of course we care!
d
Thx wally...... :-* :-* :-* :-*.simply i had no time for practice this time

Do pitch up Simone, its an easy track to learn!
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Freezer on December 04, 2018, 12:13:41 PM
Hey guys i know you could not care any less but i wont race tomorrow.
Of course we care!
d
Thx wally...... :-* :-* :-* :-* .simply i had no time for practice this time
I've done bugger all practice too. I'm just going to rely on my natural talent and skill.
Geez Wally, it's not looking good then! 😁😁
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Bird on December 04, 2018, 12:14:50 PM
Hey guys i know you could not care any less but i wont race tomorrow.
Of course we care!
d
Thx wally...... :-* :-* :-* :-*.simply i had no time for practice this time

What a wuss!  No wonder you always lose to me!   :D

( Just kidding, I do care; it's a loss if you can't make it. )
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Wally on December 04, 2018, 02:10:28 PM
Hey guys i know you could not care any less but i wont race tomorrow.
Of course we care!
d
Thx wally...... :-* :-* :-* :-* .simply i had no time for practice this time
I've done bugger all practice too. I'm just going to rely on my natural talent and skill.
Geez Wally, it's not looking good then! 😁😁
Tongue was firmly in cheek :)
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: bradc on December 04, 2018, 03:31:30 PM
gee that corner coming onto the back straight is a tricky one, think I need to change my visibility out of the cockpit as I'm finding the apex rather difficult to find....
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: ab156 on December 04, 2018, 04:52:19 PM
gee that corner coming onto the back straight is a tricky one, think I need to change my visibility out of the cockpit as I'm finding the apex rather difficult to find....

There is an apex?
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Phil.8 on December 04, 2018, 05:12:33 PM
where did that 30.1 come from Phil :o

Well last month or 2 I felt I have been off the pace but still felt I was driving ok and after Shayne said he cruised past me last week I got to thinking and I looked at my brakes and I think they may have been slightly on for god knows how long so I added 3% of a dead zone to them and the time appeared, probably coincidence and I am just getting old :) and just got lucky
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Wally on December 04, 2018, 06:21:38 PM
Server's up.
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Bacchulum on December 04, 2018, 07:14:48 PM
Gonna be a long race, with 3600 laps. :o
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: RussG on December 04, 2018, 07:41:38 PM
Gonna be a long race, with 3600 laps. :o
Man that's a lot of refuelling for our Shorty  :o
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Wally on December 04, 2018, 08:38:20 PM
Gonna be a long race, with 3600 laps. :o
Can't you do 1 second laps???? :)
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Bird on December 04, 2018, 10:14:57 PM
where did that 30.1 come from Phil :o

Well last month or 2 I felt I have been off the pace but still felt I was driving ok and after Shayne said he cruised past me last week I got to thinking and I looked at my brakes and I think they may have been slightly on for god knows how long so I added 3% of a dead zone to them and the time appeared, probably coincidence and I am just getting old :) and just got lucky
That's a brilliant way to pull the aliens back into the fold :D
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Bird on December 04, 2018, 10:16:59 PM
A huge apology goes to bradC whose quali I've messed up - I had heaps of extra speed and I was fairly confident (wrongly of course) that I can make it, however you seem to have taken a tighter line than usual...anyway, it was bad judgement on my part and apologies again!
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Wally on December 04, 2018, 10:52:35 PM
Results are up in the 1st post.
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Freezer on December 04, 2018, 11:19:47 PM
Qualified 7th which wasn't bad but got out dragged over the first few laps to loose a few spots.  I started with full fuel and hards which enabled me to run 20 laps (the longest stint) and take the lead on lap 16 as others stopped.  Came out from the stop in 6th and now with mediums was able to up the pace a bit and gradually worked my way up to 2nd as people stopped etc.  Starting to think this was going to be a decent strategy. 
Did the second stop at lap 31 for more mediums but this time came out in 8th.  Had pretty decent speed but after a near faultless race made a couple of minor slips when battling with Joe to get home in 8th.
The 15 sec penalty from last week meant my battle with Joe was to no end anyway. 
Best shorty . . 7th  :(
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Wally on December 05, 2018, 12:09:06 AM
A rubbish race for me. I smacked the wall in an oversteer moment at the end of lap 1, damaging my aero to such an extent that I could only do 275 kph max, so I pitted for repairs. That threw out my entire pit strategy, as since I started with a full tank, I couldn't take on much fuel, so the race essentially turned into a 1 stopper after the early repair with wasted time refuelling and then ending on hards when I had intended to go mediums. I could only manage a lousy 1:33.160 in the race  :-X
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Bird on December 05, 2018, 08:37:45 AM
Similar to Wally, I've smacked the banked corner relatively early on while going around a merc (that overtook me on the straight).  Same early pit & very long 2nd stint was necessary.   Still, I was able to pull a few 31's in the race, and even had some nice battles in the end. 

The one advantage with the shorty is that blue flags are easy to serve, you just don't do anything on one of the straights  ;)

I had a moment when I caught up to a merc just after T1 (t2? the right hander) on the esses with such a huge speed difference that the only sane option was to go around it.  Since that was the same place I've attempted the overtake in the quali (and failed miserably) it was a hairy moment.   Although my extra speed meant I was past in a blink of an eye, so it was clean and quick, thankfully.
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Seanus on December 05, 2018, 09:36:57 AM
I had a moment when I caught up to a merc just after T1 (t2? the right hander) on the esses with such a huge speed difference that the only sane option was to go around it.  Since that was the same place I've attempted the overtake in the quali (and failed miserably) it was a hairy moment.   Although my extra speed meant I was past in a blink of an eye, so it was clean and quick, thankfully.

I thought that was pretty neat, my bobble, your approach speed and the only place to overtake in the esses, all conspired to happen at the same time. ;)
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: doobs on December 05, 2018, 10:13:03 AM
Another wasted race for me.

Three spins coming off slow corners early and I lost a lot of time. I got stuck behind people and couldn't manufacture a pass because I was faster through the twisty stuff and not fast enough off the slow corners to stay with them on the straights. It was a bit frustrating but if I hadn't made mistakes I wouldn't have been in that position.

Good racing though.
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Bacchulum on December 05, 2018, 11:58:47 AM
Best race of the season so far.
Completed the race with full power. :-X
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Bird on December 05, 2018, 12:21:25 PM
I had a moment when I caught up to a merc just after T1 (t2? the right hander) on the esses with such a huge speed difference that the only sane option was to go around it.  Since that was the same place I've attempted the overtake in the quali (and failed miserably) it was a hairy moment.   Although my extra speed meant I was past in a blink of an eye, so it was clean and quick, thankfully.

I thought that was pretty neat, my bobble, your approach speed and the only place to overtake in the esses, all conspired to happen at the same time. ;)
Well, thanks for that :)  Yeah that's exactly how I planned it!  :D  8)
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Joe on December 05, 2018, 02:20:57 PM
Best race of the season for me with just a couple of small mistakes. A lot of the race was on and off batting with Freezer which was good fun. Mediums were a bad choice and were going off after 15 mins leading to my first off track adventure, so I changed to hards for the rest of the race which was a better choice.

Was no real way to do much against the long trails or C9s here; they were so much faster on the straight then when you catch them in the windy bits there is no safe place to pass, especially in the Mazda which is pretty twitchy in the slow corners itself.
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: bradc on December 05, 2018, 03:39:26 PM
Not the best night for me, got cleaned up twice in quali and struggled to actually get a time set. Sadly when I did it wasn't the cleanest lap and so 10th was the best i could do. I'm not sure how many people use their lights but in quali but perhaps if people have them on when they're actually going for a time (& off when they are not), then it's a lot easier for cars on an out or in lap to know this and get out of the way. Thanks bird for putting your hand up for cleaning my up in the esses but I still can't understand why you felt the need to make that pass on your out lap.... I know I have the live timing screen up (can't remember it's A/C name) all the time and looking at that it's easy to tell when I'm on a slow lap how far behind or ahead the next car is and thus, make allowances for it.

Starting the race from 10th, I was mindful of trying to get off the line cleanly and I knew there would little passing until half way round the lap and it looked like a really clean start. I was in a gaggle of 5 or 6 cars and it was great settling into a rhythm until RussG had a spin at turn 3. Sadly I zigged when I should have zagged and tagged his stricken vehicle as it sat in the middle of the track damaging my front body work. I spent the next lap seeing how bad things were and decided after 2 laps that I was losing too much time down the back straight, plus Phil was catching me rather quickly, so I let phil by and pitted for repairs. The stop wasn't too bad and I was able to split the race into 3x 20min sections and on the medium rubber the car wasn't too bad but tyre wear was an issue last in the stint. My pace was in the 1m33's so I didn't really set the world on fire, but didn't feel like I was going backwards either. I had a had some good battles with doobs during the race but got stuffed up my race when I made nose to tail contact with seanus at the corner coming onto the back straight. 100% my fault, I simply miss judged the C9's far slower corner speed and was unable to avoid the contact. It felt like I hit seanus very late in the corner as I was expecting the C9 to take off down the straight earlier, however I was too hot too soon into the corner, sorry mate.....I waited for him to rejoin and then pitted a lap later to come out 9 seconds behind Bacchulum. Over the next 18mins I chased him down and it was great fun. Eventually I fell three 10ths of a second short but it was a lot of fun managing fuel and trying to catch at the same time. In the end I finished with 1 lap of fuel left in the car, but kudos to him, it was a lot of fun.

Whilst I'm not a fan of this particular track, it does make these cars are extremely challenging but it's was great to be on a track where you needed to use your strengths to your advantages, but also know where others were strong and defend like buggery....
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Wally on December 05, 2018, 03:41:06 PM
... especially in the Mazda which is pretty twitchy in the slow corners itself.
I've decided on that basis that the Mazda is too hard for me, and I'll be swapping to the wimpy Short Tail. I don't have the fine throttle control to get the power down smoothly.
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Freezer on December 05, 2018, 03:49:43 PM
... especially in the Mazda which is pretty twitchy in the slow corners itself.
I've decided on that basis that the Mazda is too hard for me, and I'll be swapping to the wimpy Short Tail. I don't have the fine throttle control to get the power down smoothly.
Wimpy . . . !  I'm so offended.  :)

and I suppose you will be removing all restrictions now :) :)
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Wally on December 05, 2018, 04:14:04 PM
... especially in the Mazda which is pretty twitchy in the slow corners itself.
I've decided on that basis that the Mazda is too hard for me, and I'll be swapping to the wimpy Short Tail. I don't have the fine throttle control to get the power down smoothly.
Wimpy . . . !  I'm so offended.  :)

and I suppose you will be removing all restrictions now :) :)
Yep, just for me  8)
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: bradc on December 05, 2018, 04:22:34 PM

and I suppose you will be removing all restrictions now :) :)

should be double restrictions for those jumping ship  :P
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Bird on December 05, 2018, 05:15:42 PM
but I still can't understand why you felt the need to make that pass on your out lap....

Aaaaah, you thought it was my outlap?  No, you've overtaken me on the straight is all.  I was on a hotlap, too. :)

On my outlap I even leave the track to avoid endangering others coming up on me, I'd never try this shit, trust me.
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: killagorilla on December 06, 2018, 08:42:54 AM
... especially in the Mazda which is pretty twitchy in the slow corners itself.
I've decided on that basis that the Mazda is too hard for me, and I'll be swapping to the wimpy Short Tail. I don't have the fine throttle control to get the power down smoothly.
Wimpy . . . !  I'm so offended.  :)

and I suppose you will be removing all restrictions now :) :)
Yep, just for me  8)

Fair enough...I'd do the same if I could  ;)
My qualy was pretty good. I managed to do a lap just a tenth off my PB. So my PB would have got me on P 15...really excited.
The race was uneventful...pretty much me hotlapping by myself. I think I haven't done a single overtaking in this whole series so far.
In the end consistency got me coming in 10th. I still enjoyed the race. I really love this track and the Mazda the way I've set it up felt great too.

Yeah, I'm a bit on the verge of changing over to the shorty too. Jumped into my rig last night and beat my Riverside Mazda PB by 3/10 on mediums with a bit more fuel compensating for the 10kg ballast. My Mazda PB was done on soft's. I've done a lot more laps in the Mazda so the difference between these cars will be more than that for me.
However, then you've got the bloody slow pitting...not sure what to do.
These 10kg on the shorty don't really matter anyway...could be easily dropped as well and I doubt it would change the outcome of this series.
Guess I'll give the Merc another go and see if I can do something on my driving style and the setup in order to keep this bloody thing on the track.
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Mael on December 06, 2018, 07:04:36 PM
The worst race of the season, mostly due to my own poor driving  :-[

A surprising 3rd position on the grid was followed by misery after misery with me being unable to handle the longtail's propensity to understeer. On lap 8 I went from 4th just ahead of Jeremy to being lapped by Jeremy  :'(

Then an unplanned divebomb at the last corner almost ended up in tears with light contact with Bird, tried give the position back back suspect another driver took advantage of the situation. Sorry mate.

But another wall jumped in front of me to destroy a second set of front suspension, this time to make matter worse the pit mechanics were caught asleep. So I had to first park for fuel, then reveres and do a second set of refueling while the lazy #%$#%$ repaired the damage. Surprisingly after this I wern't last!   (LOL RUSS)

so chuck a block full of fuel I spend the last few laps trying to catch a few of the other fellow tortoises  ;D Wally with his reliance on " Natural Talent and skill" was one of the unfortunates caught  ;D 

Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Wally on December 06, 2018, 07:23:17 PM
LOL Mael, that was my worst race of the season too. I think I cursed myself.
Title: Re: S25R4: Los Angeles Times/Ford Grand Prix at Riverside Long
Post by: Bird on December 06, 2018, 07:35:20 PM
Then an unplanned divebomb at the last corner almost ended up in tears with light contact with Bird, tried give the position back back suspect another driver took advantage of the situation. Sorry mate.

Yeah that surprised me a bit, but luckily did not leave a lasting mark :)  Nevermind, it's racing.  Chit happens.
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