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Simulation Racing Leagues => Assetto Corsa Competizione => Topic started by: Phil.8 on November 14, 2018, 12:58:38 PM

Title: Is ACC worth getting or not
Post by: Phil.8 on November 14, 2018, 12:58:38 PM
Today is the last day at cheaper price and I am wondering if the folks who have it honestly think they will play it much, Or is it just as I think it is a brilliant idea some publisher thought up thinking codemasters have F1, what can we do, oh lets make blancpain our game, forgetting that most of the world could not care less about that series hoping to test the waters and cash in on the console/VR market in the future ? which Kunos saw the $ signs and fell for the sweet talk of money and success and got blinded from what is required in a sim.

Here is a quote of what someone said on the ACC forum which sums up my reluctance to purchase it

"If there's going to be an "Assetto Corsa 2" and it's to be made with UE4, then it's the end of the road for me.
 It's sad, but I can't support an engine that can't support me. "

Anyway honest opinion's please, can those of you who got it actually see yourself dedicating time to it and playing this game over AC ? Because I like to race with friends and no point at all if no one can see themselves playing it
Title: Re: Is it worth getting or not
Post by: Bird on November 14, 2018, 01:21:19 PM
Is it that expensive that you can't purchase & test it?   
Or you aren't really excited/interested enough and need someone to convince you otherwise? :)

I've bought iRaping back in the day, because I was really into simracing back then, and *that* was really expensive...but I wanted to test it myself.
Title: Re: Is it worth getting or not
Post by: Wally on November 14, 2018, 01:57:48 PM
I'll tell you what appeals to me. The cars feel very different, very individual characteristics. I reckon there will be a lot to explore in each make. Driving ACC feels more complex to me somehow. AC feels a little simplistic to me in some way - I can't really put my finger on it. There's a lot more structure around the racing - this is a real racing simulator as opposed to AC which is primarily a driving simulator. More rules, more penalties, more actual race simulation. The physics simulation is more advanced. The rating system is shaping up nicely, with rankings, leader boards, progression in the rankings etc. And rain. And night. I'm optimistic and looking forward to racing in it.
Title: Re: Is it worth getting or not
Post by: Joe on November 14, 2018, 02:00:29 PM
I tried it once and haven't loaded it again. No triple support and not being able to really try out rain etc with my GPU made it kind of pointless. Still hoping it gets better in the future.
Title: Re: Is it worth getting or not
Post by: Phil.8 on November 14, 2018, 02:46:55 PM


Or you aren't really excited/interested enough and need someone to convince you otherwise? :)



I think you have hit the nail on the head, I also got and tested iracing back in the day and have recently resubbed for a month and been having some fun in the skippy :)
Title: Re: Is it worth getting or not
Post by: Bacchulum on November 14, 2018, 03:49:39 PM
Honestly, atm I only load up ACC for a wet race fix. :-\

However, I've raced some pretty shit sims just for the online racing/community.
Wally sounds keen, so I'm sure that will happen in future. ;)

As for the lack of triple screen support?
If it wasn't mentioned here I would still not have noticed. ???
(although I am unobservant when I'm focused)
Title: Re: Is it worth getting or not
Post by: Dave O on November 14, 2018, 04:34:57 PM
I'd go along with Wally's sum up on ACC, but you're going to have to like the GT cars. I can't help but think we're all paying
to be guinea pigs for these developers these days  ::) everything seems to be early access. I don't personally reckon
it will replace AC, not enough content. Going to need some serious hardware to run it in all it's glory too imho  ::) I've only
done 22 hrs on it since purchasing it, but I do like it.   ( ps, needs some Ladas in it  ;D)
Title: Re: Is it worth getting or not
Post by: RussG on November 14, 2018, 04:45:34 PM
So far I see it as "just another sim" with less cars and tracks. I don't see the utter grandness of it all. So much hype over Graphics and sound but I don't see it.
I don't get excited by wet or night races as we have been doing that in rFatcor2 for years and "live" weather data injected into the server since 2015.
I would hope that ACC will polish up the Race Session management, have decent built in stuff for onscreen info during racing, manual pit speed limiting, replay management, etc, etc, etc. Assetto Corsa is absolutely brain dead when it comes to all these things and more. You can't even have a warmup session between Qually and Race in AC.
Even though so many things about AC get up my nose, I race in it to be in it with the group we have. If the group starts racing in ACC, I'll be there too.

my 2ยข worth.
Title: Re: Is it worth getting or not
Post by: Bird on November 16, 2018, 08:53:22 AM
Phil, I've just realised this is available on Steam as "Early Access".  This means you can buy it and try it (unlimited), then get a refund, no questions asked, while it's in Early Access.  Just try it.
Then refund it.  Then if you did like it, re-purchase it at the next sale.   It's all perfectly within Steam's current policies.
Title: Re: Is it worth getting or not
Post by: Phil.8 on November 16, 2018, 06:07:30 PM
Phil, I've just realised this is available on Steam as "Early Access".  This means you can buy it and try it (unlimited), then get a refund, no questions asked, while it's in Early Access.  Just try it.
Then refund it.  Then if you did like it, re-purchase it at the next sale.   It's all perfectly within Steam's current policies.

Yep I got it today and I am going to refund it I am pretty sure. But in fairness of giving it a decent go I am going to have another go tonight drink driving style and see if that improves it but so far its getting refunded
Title: Re: Is it worth getting or not
Post by: Wally on November 17, 2018, 07:37:23 AM
Phil, you've been determined to hate this game from the start :)
Title: Re: Is it worth getting or not
Post by: Gratulin on November 17, 2018, 08:46:28 AM
The only thing you can really evaluate is the physics. The rest of the game is very early beta and pretty rough. Only compare physics to AC. I am definitely not a good driver but I think the ACC physics is a major step up from AC. The most obvious improvement is how you can feel and control the rotation of the car. Lots of detail compared to AC.

Interestingly, due to my shoulder injury I set the FFB on my wheel to 60% and was surprised at the extra detail and control that resulted.
Title: Re: Is it worth getting or not
Post by: Simone on November 17, 2018, 10:02:04 AM


Or you aren't really excited/interested enough and need someone to convince you otherwise? :)



I think you have hit the nail on the head, I also got and tested iracing back in the day and have recently resubbed for a month and been having some fun in the skippy :)

Actually i would not mind to resub iracing and trying again...i once was a star mazda champion and beat bird,,,,,since then bird dropped iracing ;D. But then i was like bird so much in simracing no joke.Now i am not that much interested anymore but i have to say Iraping is a bit of  a better racing sim....and you pay for it. I will get the ACC  at one stage no matter the price because i love it and i like to support the XGN club....in a few words.....i am not fussy anymore and beside....tomorrow Battlefield 5 is coming out!!!!     
Title: Re: Is it worth getting or not
Post by: Wally on November 17, 2018, 10:08:11 AM
I feel the same as Gratulin. More and more, the cars in ACC feel and sound more car-like than in AC. The cars feel like they have more weight to them somehow.
Title: Re: Is it worth getting or not
Post by: Simone on November 17, 2018, 10:14:33 AM
I feel the same as Gratulin. More and more, the cars in ACC feel and sound more car-like than in AC. The cars feel like they have more weight to them somehow.

OK   I will get it!!!!!!   
Title: Re: Is it worth getting or not
Post by: Freezer on November 17, 2018, 12:38:32 PM
Its cheap to buy. It sounds and looks better which does contribute to the overall experience.  Its not perfect yet but it's still being developed so that's expected.
You've got nothing to lose,  so buy it!
Title: Re: Is it worth getting or not
Post by: Bird on November 17, 2018, 12:44:13 PM
Actually i would not mind to resub iracing and trying again...i once was a star mazda champion and beat bird

I remember one race I got taken out on the last race of the season, I was royally pissed.  It also cost me the pro licence right there.  :)  Good times. (That wasn't the mazda, though, I think it was v8s - mazda was only C level, no?)
I did resub a while back, but man it felt really weird & floaty.  It is a very different feedback compared to AC.  I dare you to give it a try!

I think I'll give acc a try, too, it can't hurt.    Not this weekend, sadly, we're visiting relatives.
Title: Re: Is it worth getting or not
Post by: Phil.8 on November 21, 2018, 04:10:05 PM
Phil, I've just realised this is available on Steam as "Early Access".  This means you can buy it and try it (unlimited), then get a refund, no questions asked, while it's in Early Access.  Just try it.
Then refund it.  Then if you did like it, re-purchase it at the next sale.   It's all perfectly within Steam's current policies.

So are you saying that early access games do not have the 14day or 2 hour time limit imposed on them and I can return it the day before full release if still no triple monitor support ?

I am finding it very hard to see the apex as it is now, and its a bit arcadey, very easy to drive, don't need any throttle control, just plant it out of the corners and away you go, I am wondering if atm its built more around console and contollers than PC and wheel, but we are the beta testers for that ? I presume as it matures it might become more of a PC game, but atm it feels console to me
Title: Re: Is ACC worth getting or not
Post by: Bird on November 22, 2018, 11:01:01 AM
Phil, I've just realised this is available on Steam as "Early Access".  This means you can buy it and try it (unlimited), then get a refund, no questions asked, while it's in Early Access.  Just try it.
Then refund it.  Then if you did like it, re-purchase it at the next sale.   It's all perfectly within Steam's current policies.

So are you saying that early access games do not have the 14day or 2 hour time limit imposed on them and I can return it the day before full release if still no triple monitor support ?

Well, that was my understanding - it was written on Steam's pages at some point IIRC, I've even used this once or twice.   
The logic was that an early access game hasn't been released yet.  The 2hr/2wk starts at the release date. 

However, I can't find a direct reference now, so it may not work like that now.

Note: You can always try to get a refund even if you went over the 2hr time, I've got 4hr games refunded. (One was recently; I left it running accidentally when I went to have dinner, heh)

Also you can re-purchase a refunded game when a new version is out and try it again.   So you can just try this method.
Title: Re: Is ACC worth getting or not
Post by: Phil.8 on May 28, 2019, 04:47:55 PM
Assetto Corsa Competizione - https://steamcharts.com/app/805550
DOA
With release close I wonder if the numbers will improve or have Kunos sold us something we don't really want or need, I know I feel suckered in that's for sure,   I wish I followed my gut feeling on this money making console wannabe venture


52
playing an hour ago

512
24-hour peak

2,106
all-time peak


Assetto Corsa - https://steamcharts.com/app/244210
Still going strong

1,227
playing 40 min ago

5,250
24-hour peak

6,954
all-time peak
Title: Re: Is ACC worth getting or not
Post by: Phil.8 on May 28, 2019, 05:19:31 PM
12.30, its a shame they were no upfront right at the beginning,  but I guess if they were an awful lot of potential customers would not have purchased.
I am very disappointed in their business practice and not wanting to give them a cent again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU38E6iJRNQ
Title: Re: Is ACC worth getting or not
Post by: Joe on May 28, 2019, 06:24:07 PM
Rolz has a friend who has a friend who is a dev for Kunos.. sounds like one of those unlikely stories ey.. anyway hes been told they're working on the triple support and it may even be in v1 tomorrow. nDisplay which is the feature that allows it was previously an unsupported feature but a month or so ago become properly supported in the engine.
Title: Re: Is ACC worth getting or not
Post by: Wally on May 28, 2019, 06:53:58 PM
Triple support is neither ruled out or in at this stage. There are higher priorities at the moment, and development will continue after the 1.0 release.
Title: Re: Is ACC worth getting or not
Post by: rooshooter on May 28, 2019, 08:29:58 PM
I think the numbers say it all.
Title: Re: Is ACC worth getting or not
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on May 28, 2019, 10:09:36 PM
I'm hoping it's just a stop gap before they work on AC 2.  I do worry thought that they had a lot of legal action heaped on them through AC and big business not liking the modding aspect, that Kunos won't ever produce another AC.
Title: Re: Is ACC worth getting or not
Post by: Wally on May 28, 2019, 11:35:45 PM
The content is fairly niche - it is the Blancpain GT3 game, simulating one racing series, after all. That limits the available cars and tracks, and the format is really one of endurance racing, with driver swaps etc, which might not be everyone's cup of tea, not as much as quick pick-up sprints, for example.

But in terms of an actual racing simulation, it's much richer than AC, in terms of graphics, audio, physics, changing weather conditions and day/night cycle, rules, penalties, strategy (tyre set management) etc.

It is a pity that triple screens aren't yet properly supported... but never say never.




Title: Re: Is ACC worth getting or not
Post by: Joe on June 01, 2019, 02:42:30 PM
I just gave it a quick try again now it's in V1. For me setting an appropriate FOV means the side monitors are so stretched i makes my head hurt and I miss apexes. The new projection correction setting fixed this; setting it to 1.0 made every look right, but it seriously degrades the graphics make it look super low resolution. For me this makes the game unplayable and I don't see the point in running it on a single monitor. Projection Correction definitely a step in the right direction; if they could achieve that without the lack of detail it would be a feasible way to play on triples.

Haven't tried it in VR yet but not sure how my 1070 will cope.
Title: Re: Is ACC worth getting or not
Post by: Wally on June 01, 2019, 04:59:06 PM
I've been playing it for ages with triples, and indeed just had 1.5 hrs of online racing against 10 randoms (on the xgnacc server). I think from memory my FOV is 37 degrees. Yes, the side monitors are a little stretched, but for me it's certainly playable. I'm used to it - I no longer notice the aspect of the side monitors.  I tried that alternative projection and although it makes the side monitors look OK, it makes the central image far too lo-res to be worthwhile.
Title: Re: Is ACC worth getting or not
Post by: Joe on June 01, 2019, 05:08:08 PM
I can't remember what I set my FOV to, but the track still didn't look quite how it should, and on tight corners where you'd look for the apex on a side monitor I couldn't hit it due the distortion.

VR however was different, as everything looks right I could get into it and really appreciate how the game feels and sounds. Still need some tinkering but I played around with it in VR for a little while and was fun, At least for now that's one one to play it.
Title: Re: Is ACC worth getting or not
Post by: Wally on June 01, 2019, 07:05:27 PM
The FOV looks the same as AC to me, on the central monitor.
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