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Thursday Nights fun racing / Re: S8 R1 - Mosport 2012 - 27-04-2017
« on: April 21, 2017, 04:31:19 PM »
I'll take the Lola over the lotus any day. Just as fast as my Alfa.

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give it 2 hour race, no mandatory pit stop. Chances are people will pit for damage and tyres anyway. done.

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Australian Assetto Corsa League, Tuesday nights / Re: Blue Flag Rules
« on: April 12, 2017, 06:30:42 PM »
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May need to find a lap at Nords with faster cars in traffic, how the drivers deal with it there is impressive.

It's not impressive, it's common sense. Something most people here in Australia don't have when it comes to racing. I watch quite a lot of those videos by EMS Nordschliefe TV and majority of the time, the slower guys indicate the side they will move over to (normally off the racing line) when it is safe to do so. It's also amazing to see how little car control people have when they loose it around some corners due to either too much speed, over correcting or just plain stupidity on a wet track.

Considering this is a simulation and we have voice communication as well as in-built driving apps to help increase a drivers awareness (heli-corsa for example), there shouldn't be much excuse to not know who is around your car. Heli-Corsa even shows Red/Blue cars for lapping cars, While white dots are cars on the current lap as you are.

On the topic of Blue flags and how long you have to obey it, I think 1 lap is far more than enough. I know some tracks are hard to pass, but somewhere along the circuit is going to be safe to let a lapping car through. After that, give a penalty.

reading some of you guys are saying it's safer for the slow car to stay on the race line IMO isn't any better. The lapped car should never be racing the leader. If you're being lapped, you're not really going to win are you? Might as well just communicate, merge off the line *when it's safe* and let him through. The race leader/Lapping cars shouldn't have to have their position compromised because they have to go around a lapped car holding the line.

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Australian Assetto Corsa League, Tuesday nights / Re: Blue Flag Rules
« on: April 11, 2017, 11:11:32 PM »
I have checked a number of different sources and meanings of "Blue flags" and they all say the same thing.

A car being shown the Blue flag must GIVE WAY to the faster car at the earliest, safest available opportunity

You don't race the leader
You don't stay on the line
The leader does NOT have to go around you.
The leader/lapping car has right of way ON THE RACING LINE.

Having said that, the lapped car must exercise caution at all times and safely give way. Sometimes you can not do it until after a chicane or sweeping corners so it pays to voice out on TS and communicate when and where to pass.
If there is no communication - Always keep the racing line clear for the lapping car.

There is an exception that I have often come across and that's when the lapping car is coming up to two cars fighting for position. By fighting for position, I mean cars that are side-by-side or bumper to bumper on the same lap. The leader should exercise caution, communicate and pass safely when the opportunity comes.

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Thursday Nights fun racing / Re: Thursday Season shakedown - 30-3-17
« on: March 31, 2017, 06:02:12 PM »
dropped the Alfa? You guys can race it too ya know. Maybe it might give me some competition.

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Thursday Nights fun racing / Re: Season 8
« on: March 30, 2017, 11:48:21 PM »
why not race the full mod?

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would have loved to stay to race but my Rift was acting up so I swapped to my monitor and I just couldn't adjust. When you go VR, you just can't go back.

However, I think I have solved why my rift plays up, which is actually caused by my RAM frequency oddly enough. Nothing is wrong with my RAM, but it seems to work flawlessly when I underclock my RAM from 3000mhz down to 2133mhz.

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Not thats its likely to happen but bonus points would make racing more interesting, after all anyone could chose a car thats a bit slower and would give them the bonus points. If there is nothing like that then no reason for the quick guys not to simply pick the quickest cars and be 2 seconds or so a lap ahead of the others in the same car.  ;)

As is there really isnt much incentive to chose a slower car

Then don't make it an incentive. Make it a rule. You know who the fast drivers are from previous seasons and races. Top 8 - 10 drivers will use X car, everyone else use another car 2-3 seconds faster. DONE.

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That's why I reckon use the 458 and the MP4 for group A (fast guys) and lambs and Gt3 RS for group B.

Using your lap times Marty, that's keeping a constant entity in selecting different cars of the same performance. If you use different drivers in different cars, there is too much variance in skill and drive style to be accurate.


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If any of the slower guys get the top 3 cars it would give them more chance of running up front which would bring the racing closer but still some may find one car easier over others so it doesnt mean always the bottom half pace wise will be fastest in those. Whichever way it goes is fine my suggestion for the ranking was based on what gzero posted earlier, and the points bonus would be more to encourage quicker guys to go for slower cars. They would be more likely to still get these cars up near the front of the pack so could take advantage of a bonus and also if one chose the faster car then they would likely need very good results every race to score enough points which is why that sort of system of encouraging slower car choice could work best

I don't think bonus points should be awarded then. The slower drivers even in faster cars most likely will not produce the same lap times as a fast driver, therefore the driver/car offset is already applied. Giving the bonus points to faster drivers who are more likely to be in top 8 is only going to keep fast drivers ahead in the points and harder for the rest of the pack to achieve competitive points through the season.

I say keep with the ballast system and drivers need to learn to adjust.

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why don't we just narrow the car choice down to the 458 and the MP4. Marty's best times with those cars are 2.36 - wouldn't that be a more fair choice between cars?

If we wanted to add a driver/car ranking system, then the slower guys can drive the Lambo or the GT3 RS. That way, the slower guys get a faster car, the faster guys gets a choice of 2 cars of equal times.

problem solved.

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Marty - according to the RSR times you posted, the lambo is one of the bottom 3 slowest cars. With what you just suggested, you want now give bonus points for the faster cars? I put out a damn good time in the Lamborghini last night (2.35.750) and all of a sudden it's bonus points for all but the one I like.

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I can understand if people don't want to keep changing cars, but if they're good drivers, they should be able to race anything.
Having said that, a good notice is required so that drivers who are changing cars can get some practice to dial in their car.

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I'll sign up, I'm enjoying the Thursday nights so I'll see how we go for tuesdays :)

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Shameless and I have been comparing a lot of different cars over a long time. We usually test on Nords due to the vast variety of corners, straights, climbs and slopes. You will find our theme is Old vs New and surprisingly, these have been the best matches. The old (Lotus 49, Cobra and yellowbird) are fast, loose and driving style is suited for those that like it raw. The New (Mclaren 650S, BMW and the SLS) offer better handling, later braking and tighter cornering.
Lotus 49 to the McLaren 650S
RUF Yellowbird vs Mercedes SLS
Cobra vs BMW M3 E92 Step 1

These matches, we think, will be worth a try in a full race environment.

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