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Title: Season 24 Touring Car Leg-Ends
Post by: Seanus on November 10, 2020, 08:23:27 PM

Selected Cars from The TCL Collection


Round 1 - Usce
03/12/2020


Round 2 - Kičevo (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/ki%C4%8Devo.17727/)
10/12/2020

Round 3 - Tor Poznań (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/tor-pozna%C5%84.6118/)
17/12/2020


Christmas eve Bye - SlovakiaRing (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/slovakia-ring.8945/)
24/12/2020 (Cobra and nothing but the Cobra annual run)

Shelby Cobra 289 Hardtop vs Shelby Daytona 289

New Year's eve Bye - Automotodrom Grobnik (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/automotodrom-grobnik.4835/)
31/12/2020 (Cobra and nothing but the Cobra annual run)

AC Cobra 212 S/C

Round 4 - Bikernieki (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/bikernieki-race-track.17186/)
07/01/2021

Round5 - Nemuno Žiedas (https://drive.google.com/file/d/14hFoC02rpC-KzZeLTxGaHfvqalK6yslc/view?usp=sharing)
14/01/2021


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Title: Massaged by Seanus
Post by: Seanus on November 11, 2020, 05:53:21 PM
A incomplete list of the type of changes I make, if needed by any particular car.

Match wheel Track for physics, graphical and skid marks.

(The Zero point of a cars suspension is just with all  the numbers in but before the car has been placed on the ground.)

Adjust body tilt(stance) so it is parallel to the ground at the zero point.
Apply an Aero angular offset as aero is done from the plane of the CoG points so is often not parallel to the ground.
Adjust the ground collider so the lowest point coincides with the lowest point of the car. If the car has a very uneven bottom profile it will often take more than one collider.
Adjust ride heights to match the collider above so at 0mm ride height at least one part of the car will be touching the ground. This means that if your ride heights are even your car will be parallel to the ground.
Adjust AI and Auto shift points and enable a working autoblip if needed. And remove unfair shift delays for non H-Shiter users.

(One of these particular cars seemed to have an incorrectly named tyre.)(and the Imp seems to have 4% more grip, I know not why?)

Rationalise files in the data folder, some aren't needed, some are identical and have their references changed to point to a single copy.

Using the rational that all cars should be able to lock up their brakes at least once, I adjust brake.ini to reflect so.

Adjust the UI to tell the truth if needed. Rationalise Tags.

FFS set STEER_ASSIST back to 1, and remove [RULES] MIN_HEIGHT=, as it buggers the physics.

Rationalise the pitstop times.

Remake the car colliders to be more collision friendly.(mostly to have vertical sides)
Do due diligence on the auto generated LODs, whilst surprisingly good I'm not a fan of the auto generation.

Change chrome to avoid reflecting anything from outside the car, remove stuff the race car wouldn't have, add stuff the race care would have.
And a bunch of other stuff as you can always find something wrong if you look hard enough.
Title: Re: Season 24 Touring Car Legends
Post by: rooshooter on November 12, 2020, 11:19:45 AM
Thanks Seanus. The reasons why your mods mimic the handling of the real cars :) :) :) :) 8) 8) 8).
Title: Re: Season 24 Touring Car Legends
Post by: rooshooter on November 28, 2020, 09:50:58 AM
First round now up on server :)

Thanks Seanus.
Title: Re: Season 24 Touring Car Legends
Post by: Bacchulum on November 28, 2020, 11:20:09 AM
I must need a link to the track, even though I have it.
Downloaded the cars this morning but getting a checksum fail.
Title: Re: Season 24 Touring Car Legends
Post by: rooshooter on November 28, 2020, 11:27:20 AM
I must need a link to the track, even though I have it.
Downloaded the cars this morning but getting a checksum fail.
Link from Shitbox Racing season is now dead.

Usce
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rj-GEbo3vdAcHAKlBu4TYn48Pmxp4CqG/view

This link is OK

https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/u%C5%A1%C4%87e-beograd.25866/


Title: Re: Season 24 Touring Car Legends
Post by: ab156 on November 30, 2020, 12:48:27 PM
Is this a pick a car and race it all season or run what you "brung" kinda deal?
Title: Re: Season 24 Touring Car Legends
Post by: Seanus on November 30, 2020, 03:08:28 PM
Is this a pick a car and race it all season or run what you "brung" kinda deal?
Yes.
Title: Re: Season 24 Touring Car Legends
Post by: rooshooter on November 30, 2020, 03:37:26 PM
2 X 13 reverse grid + 2 X 13 RG  Seanus ?

Love these cars Seanus :).
Title: Re: Season 24 Touring Car Legends
Post by: gawaterman on November 30, 2020, 04:49:35 PM
Is this a pick a car and race it all season or run what you "brung" kinda deal?
Yes.
Which "yes"
Title: Re: Season 24 Touring Car Legends
Post by: rooshooter on November 30, 2020, 05:01:05 PM
Is this a pick a car and race it all season or run what you "brung" kinda deal?
Yes.
Which "yes"

Yes
Title: Re: Season 24 Touring Car Legends
Post by: Seanus on November 30, 2020, 05:27:22 PM
2 x 2

5 minute Qual' into first race of 10 minutes worth of laps, calculated for each track, followed immediately by the inbuilt reverse grid race.

Break of 5-10 minutes

Rinse repeat.
Title: Re: Season 24 Touring Car Legends
Post by: ab156 on November 30, 2020, 05:57:18 PM
Got it, 13 x 2 min races
Title: Re: Season 24 Touring Car Legends
Post by: rooshooter on November 30, 2020, 08:32:09 PM
Got it, 13 x 2 min races
:)
Title: Re: Season 24 Touring Car Legends
Post by: gawaterman on November 30, 2020, 11:10:37 PM
Got it, 13 x 2 min races
Sounds good, got less of a chance of getting lapped  :-[
But seriously, are we tied to one car for the whole series, cos if we are I need to do a bit of practicing to pick one
Title: Re: Season 24 Touring Car Legends
Post by: Seanus on November 30, 2020, 11:16:38 PM
Got it, 13 x 2 min races
Sounds good, got less of a chance of getting lapped  :-[
But seriously, are we tied to one car for the whole series, cos if we are I need to do a bit of practicing to pick one
Never.
Title: Re: Season 24 Touring Car Legends
Post by: Seanus on November 30, 2020, 11:18:14 PM
It would be unrealistic to say otherwise. In real life you could always buy another car or drive for another team.
Title: Re: Season 24 Touring Car Legends
Post by: rooshooter on December 01, 2020, 07:09:22 AM
Got it, 13 x 2 min races
Sounds good, got less of a chance of getting lapped  :-[
But seriously, are we tied to one car for the whole series, cos if we are I need to do a bit of practicing to pick one
I would recommend do some laps in all the cars anyway, just to see which cars you prefer, they all handle very differently.
I will start with the Jag , not the quickest car, I just could not resist the maple timber dashboard  ;D ;D.
Title: Re: Season 24 Touring Car Legends
Post by: ab156 on December 01, 2020, 02:26:37 PM
You are taking the Jag!

Is there a charity I can donate to in your honour?
Title: Re: Season 24 Touring Car Legends
Post by: rooshooter on December 01, 2020, 04:08:59 PM
You are taking the Jag!

Is there a charity I can donate to in your honour?
Yes , my charity, IRL you need one to keep it on the road ;D. Everyone I knew that bought one deeply regretted it, a great car to drive but notoriously unreliable :).
Title: Re: Season 24 Touring Car Legends
Post by: ab156 on December 01, 2020, 04:32:26 PM
You are taking the Jag!

Is there a charity I can donate to in your honour?
Yes , my charity, IRL you need one to keep it on the road ;D. Everyone I knew that bought one deeply regretted it, a great car to drive but notoriously unreliable :).

I knew a guy that bought several. I think he is still in a home for the mentally ill...
Title: Re: Season 24 Touring Car Legends
Post by: Bacchulum on December 01, 2020, 05:24:04 PM
I've put a basic setup for each on the server sTracker.
I'm leaning towards the Imp, just because it feels the funnest. ;D
Title: Re: Season 24 Touring Car Legends
Post by: Mael on December 01, 2020, 05:50:07 PM
I knew a guy that bought several. I think he is still in a home for the intellectually superior...
Title: Re: Season 24 Touring Car Legends
Post by: rooshooter on December 01, 2020, 06:36:46 PM
You are taking the Jag!

Is there a charity I can donate to in your honour?
Yes , my charity, IRL you need one to keep it on the road ;D. Everyone I knew that bought one deeply regretted it, a great car to drive but notoriously unreliable :).

I knew a guy that bought several. I think he is still in a home for the mentally ill...
I fully understand ;D.
Title: Re: Season 24 Touring Car Legends
Post by: rooshooter on December 01, 2020, 06:37:26 PM
I knew a guy that bought several. I think he is still in a home for the intellectually superior...
LOL
Title: Re: Season 24 Touring Car Legends
Post by: rooshooter on December 01, 2020, 06:40:08 PM
I've put a basic setup for each on the server sTracker.
I'm leaning towards the Imp, just because it feels the funnest. ;D
Thanks Bacchulum. I think if people pick a car using the heart rather than head , they will have a more enjoyable season ;).
Title: Re: Season 24 Touring Car Legends
Post by: Bacchulum on December 01, 2020, 07:09:48 PM
I've put a basic setup for each on the server sTracker.
I'm leaning towards the Imp, just because it feels the funnest. ;D
Thanks Bacchulum. I think if people pick a car using the heart rather than head , they will have a more enjoyable season ;).
True, I found the Austin quicker but less enjoyable to drive.
Title: Re: Season 24 Touring Car Legends
Post by: ab156 on December 01, 2020, 08:15:13 PM
Its interesting, I found the Toyota to be the best all round (in this config) but the Imp braking points are hilarious and hard to go past (get it... (I'm here all week))
Title: Re: Season 24 Touring Car Legends
Post by: Bacchulum on December 02, 2020, 05:27:29 PM
Its interesting, I found the Toyota to be the best all round (in this config) but the Imp braking points are hilarious and hard to go past (get it... (I'm here all week))
The times show I was faster in the Toyota, but my Austin laps were all over the place.
Refining the driving style for the Austin, I feel, there's more in it, but there's no need for that in the Imp, just chuck it in and it does what it's told. ;D
Title: Re: Season 24 Touring Car Leg-Ends
Post by: Seanus on December 13, 2020, 06:29:29 PM
Extract the attached file to the Toyota's car folder for a working odometer and trip meter.
Title: Re: Season 24 Touring Car Leg-Ends
Post by: Seanus on January 14, 2021, 09:55:03 PM
Season results are up, see OP.
Title: Re: Season 24 Touring Car Leg-Ends
Post by: Scott_Racer on January 15, 2021, 07:41:07 AM
Cheers for a good season everyone. Really enjoyed attempting to drive the Hillman IMP quickly around 5 great tracks. The cars were well matched and had pros and cons for each track. Special cheers to Seanus for pulling this all together.

Well done to AB, Bach and seanus for taking the podium positions! After hearing the prize for 3rd place I was happy to let Seanus take it  ;D

If my memory serves me correctly Bach did the whole season in the imp as well?
Title: Re: Season 24 Touring Car Leg-Ends
Post by: rooshooter on January 15, 2021, 12:57:12 PM
It was a very good finale to a very good season , thanks Seanus :).

Congrats ab156 on the season podium and Bacchulum and Seanus .

I watched a replay of the final race from the driver's seat of ab's car, a better display of gentleman simracing driving by ab and Bacchulum, you will not see :o :o 8) 8). I never thought the Hillman Imp would be a match for the Toyota at this track, but I was wrong, Bacc finished just .082 sec in front of ab :o :o.
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