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9556
Wally, can You please update the original post so that it says "Eastern Daylight savings time". QLD unfortunately is the only state on Standard Eastern time all year.
If You are a bit adventurous update it with current times for all states.
Updated - I included a link to Dick's suggested time buddy website too.

9557
Dick we need a new skin!

 
lotus_exige_s_roadster

9558
Car Allocations

 
Old CarNew Car
InsomniacElise SCM3 E92 Step 1
GratulinElise SC S2M3 E92 Step 1
PhilExige 240RExige S Roadster
Dick Forrest [CramDick Racing]Exige 240R S3Exige 240R S3
ImperiousElise SC S2Exige 240R
RPMBMW 1MM3 E92 Step 1
cramjet [CramDick Racing]Elise SC S2Exige 240R
KrahlElise SCExige 240R
EdWoodElise SCExige 240R
CrimespreeElise SCExige 240R
GrubbetExige 240R S3Exige 240R S3
FreezerElise SCExige 240R
Vipergod [Team MRT]Exige 240RM3 E92 Step 1
BacchulumElise SC S1Exige 240R
Peter ReidElise SC S1Elise SC S2
Wally [TKO Racing]Elise SCElise SC S2
Dave OM3 E92 Step 1M3 E92 Step 1
Ysu [TKO Racing]Elise SCElise SC S2
SchmittezM3 E92 Step 1M3 E92 Step 1
GWyarM3 E92Exige 240R
Rob [Team MRT]M3 E92Exige 240R
Marty [Achilles Heels]Elise SCElise SC

* This uses the relative performances of the cars specifically at Silverstone International and Imola according to RSR WR's, instead of just the average over several tracks, so takes the car strengths at the next track into account better.

Others (previous car adjusted to be the same relative performance at Imola)
 
Mopz
lotus_exige_240
Enforcer-J
bmw_m3_e92_s1
Lan9az lotus_exige_240
Thndr bmw_m3_e92
Guybrush Threepwoodlotus_elise_sc
[/t]
Flattoplotus_exige_240_s3

9559
Use the time that most people do in each car for the track (where the peak is in the laptimes)!
...or not... :D
Yeah, I have looked at doing that, but some car/track combos don't really have enough data, and there sometimes isn't a well defined peak. The WR's still give you a relative performance for the cars on a given track.

9560
Race Results and Charts
Season Standings
Season Stats

T1/2 Penalties
Race 2 - RPM (-4 pts) for running into the rear of Wally (+4 pts).
Peter Reid ran into the side of DaveO, but it was just an accident as Peter simply oversteered a little - a racing incident.
Race 3, Grubbett got sandwiched between Bacchulum and Krahl, but everyone was holding their line but just ran out of room - a racing incident.

I saw the incident between Cramjet and Ysu, but it was after a previous mess between a lot of cars which unsettled the field, and everyone was going relatively slowly, with Cramjet running out of room. It was a bit ugly, but hard to really apportion blame.

Congratulations to Marty and Rob on the race wins and Gwyar for the round win.
Reserve RPM earned points towards Achilles Heels.

Round Points
GWyar   69
Rob   65
Peter Reid   58
Wally   56
Schmittez   56
Marty   55
Ysu   55
Vipergod   46
Dave O   45
Freezer   43
Crimespree   43
Imperious   39
Bacchulum   37
RPM   35
Phil   34
cramjet   27
Gratulin   27
Insomniac   24
Grubbet   21
Krahl   20
Dick Forrest   19
EdWood   17


Season Podium
1. Marty, 200
2. EdWood, 173
3. Peter Reid, 170

9561
Exactly Bacchulum. There are so many variables.

But what I will do for next round is base the calculations on the WR times achievable this round at Silverstone as well as the times for the next round at Imola, instead of just using WR averages. That will filter out even more car strengths and weaknesses at a particular track.

9563
Hi, just wondering what time we need to turn up tonight?
7:30pm EASTERN standard time is 6:30pm ADST or 8:30pm ADST?

Regards,
Ron

Qualifying is at 8:30pm Eastern daylight saving time.

9564
Call them BMW_M3_E92 and BMW_M3_E92_1. Thanks.

9565
Thanks Dick, love your work.

9566
Thursday Nights fun racing / Re: Thursday Non-Season Fun Run Oct 9th
« on: October 06, 2014, 07:22:03 PM »
Isn't checksum error due to track or car version mismatch? Or perhaps password incorrect?

I thought you only got a checksum error from a track mismatch.

9567
Australian Assetto Corsa League, Tuesday nights / Re: Season 3 Standings
« on: October 06, 2014, 06:31:28 PM »
After look at the results a bit more I notice I don't have any points from round 2.
Fixed.

9568
 "Yes but thats where I think those slower should simply get faster cars"
I tried that earlier, and the problem was that the there was no car fast enough for the slowest guys. There’s more room to move with car allocations if you try to get everyone around the middle time, and not either the fastest or the slowest.
 
"I wouldnt mind being in the same car as Guybrush as Id like to take him on fairly"
The goal is to balance everyone out, not just one pair of guys who want to race together.
 
"the last round that much more favored the elise over the cars with higher top speeds"
There are always going to be tracks that favour some cars over others, and that’s part of the fun. To be practical and automated, you have to go on average times across a variety of tracks. Over several rounds, the whole system is auto-balancing because the faster guys get a slower car and the slower guys get a faster car. It will trend towards some kind of equilibrium automatically.
 
"Seeing I the middle time was 96.98 and I had 95.73 then I should have dropped"
Yes, you should have, a little bit, but not as far as the Z4. That would have made you too slow. You only get dropped down a car if it is still faster than the middle lap time you should be doing. You don’t get given a car that is slower than where you should be. Guybrush in the Z4 is still faster than he should be, on paper at least.
 
"An an ideal handicap system it wont make it impossible for anyone to win a race but also any driver should be fairly close to the pole lap or at least best race lap. If anyone is too fast or too slow then something is wrong but also if people in the same cars dont quite match the pace of others in those cars it may be worth trying to change these to even everyone up as much as possible"
There’s a huge amount of variation – car/track combos, how well a car suits you, even how well anyone’s driving on the night. It’s never going to be perfect, but this system, like the ballast system before it, will reduce the gap from the front to the back of the field, especially over time. Each round refines the car allocations even more from the rounds before.
 
"Just somehow I think the time gaps are too large between people in the same cars"
As the gaps get too big, the system will automatically change their cars, depending on the gaps in the cars’ average lap times.
 
This system, as it is, will trend over time towards pushing everyone towards the middle time and giving everyone close racing. It’s never going to be as perfect as ballast allocations, because of the gaps between cars. Because I don’t give someone a car that’s even slower than their theoretical lap time, no one should be unfairly disadvantaged by being too slow. There will be some rounds where it’s harder than others in a given car – but that’s the track variation from round to round. If you end being "too slow" compared to the rest of the field, you’ll get a faster car. It’s not like anyone’s going to be stuck in the Z4 forever.


For interest, I calculated how the lap times for the next round should pan out, based on what you could do in your old car and given the new car you have, on paper. The results are very, very close - again, on paper. The system can't do any better than this.

Median lap time last round: 96.98

 
FlattopExige 240R S3
97.27
GrubbetExige 240R S3
97.71
Dave OM3 E92 Step 1
96.76
SchmittezM3 E92 Step 1
96.90
PhilExige 240R
96.88
GWyarM3 E92
96.63
RPMBMW 1M
96.68
Rob [Team MRT]M3 E92
96.86
BacchulumElise SC S1
96.95
ImperiousElise SC S2
96.89
Peter ReidElise SC S1
96.72
KrahlElise SC
96.94
Vipergod [Team MRT]Exige 240R
96.93
Dick Forrest [CramDick Racing]Exige 240R S3
96.76
Enforcer-JM3 E92
96.86
Guybrush Threepwood [Achilles Heels]Z4 E89 S1
96.53
FreezerElise SC
96.52
EdWoodElise SC
96.48
Wally [TKO Racing]Elise SC
96.42
Ysu [TKO Racing]Elise SC
96.01
Marty [Achilles Heels]Elise SC
95.57
MopzElise SC S1
96.74

A couple of observations:
Flattop and Grubbet are still a bit too slow, but they are in the fastest car.
Ysu and Marty are still a bit too fast, but the Z4 would drop them down to be too slow.

9569
Yep, just the two M3's.

9570
It's too early to think. The caffeine hasn't kicked in yet. But I listen to everything - it's the only way to learn and improve, especially as we may well use this system again in different cars. So I'll think about it. It is made more difficult by the cars having set gaps in speeds, so it will never be perfect. With ballast at least, if someone needs just 1 more kg, you can do it. There's much more scope for fine tuning.

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