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Title: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: Wally on May 16, 2017, 10:33:34 PM
Silverstone 67 is very close to the layout used in the 1987 British Grand Prix. It only lacks one chicane prior to the final corner.

2 x 17 lap races with a qually session prior to both races.

Tyre blankets are ON.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3iLdY1FfQo
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: marty on May 17, 2017, 06:55:50 PM
This is probably the simplest track for this car, but its rather quick I think my best lap has an average speed of 260kmh, its a good idea to map boost up and down to the wheel. At 70% it should be able to do a full race distance but can only do maybe 2 laps on 100% so use this more for a qualy lap or to make a pass in a race then play with boost but keeping an eye on the engine damage to avoid blowing it up.

Staying on track here is crucial so no need to try and push the track limits too much, getting a wheel in the dirt once will cost much more then leaving a bit of margin all the way around each lap.
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: Wally on May 17, 2017, 07:09:11 PM
Yeah, I deliberately chose an "easy" track so we can race without too many incidents, hopefully. After the 25 and 49, this car feels like a doddle. Racing close will be a whole different ballgame though.
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: marty on May 17, 2017, 07:57:46 PM
Yeah, I deliberately chose an "easy" track so we can race without too many incidents, hopefully. After the 25 and 49, this car feels like a doddle. Racing close will be a whole different ballgame though.

Lotus 98T like a doddle  ;D I dont know exactly what that is but driving it isnt exactly the easiest thing and is quite a challenge, at least its not as technical as the sf15t with all its electronics but an amazing drive with the h-shifter. It has aero but not like you would really want too much at old silverstone it can still take a few corners easy flat with very little aero. The slow corners you just need to keep it under control on entry to maximize exits, racing close probably isn't easier then the others but at that track I don't think it helped the situation. All 3 cars are very different and tricky in their own ways, the other 2 having no aero you don't have the option of adding aero to make the drive a bit easier like in the 98t, but it has lots of power at full boost even 70% so right foot needs to be pretty good at traction control.
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: GzeroD on May 17, 2017, 09:27:44 PM
 ;D ;D ;D Aero...
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: marty on May 17, 2017, 10:37:18 PM
;D ;D ;D Aero...

But its attached with sticky tape by someone that doesn't know what they are doing.  ;)
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: GzeroD on May 18, 2017, 12:14:44 AM
Sticky tape's fine as it doesn't create enough downforce to need anything more.
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: AJ on May 18, 2017, 12:48:15 PM
;D ;D ;D Aero...

But its attached with sticky tape by someone that doesn't know what they are doing.  ;)

To be fair I'm sure some of the independent entries in those eras were held together by not much more  ;D
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: Bacchulum on May 18, 2017, 01:02:42 PM
;D ;D ;D Aero...

But its attached with sticky tape by someone that doesn't know what they are doing.  ;)

To be fair I'm sure some of the independent entries in those eras were held together by not much more  ;D
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: marty on May 19, 2017, 09:02:29 AM
I did update servers with new build, added some wind and 10x time progression to the practice server. I havent actually tested it but wind has a max speed of 40kmh with setting for min/max speed, direction and variation in direction. I wonder if anyone will notice a differemce.
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: Wally on May 19, 2017, 10:04:13 AM
I did update servers with new build, added some wind and 10x time progression to the practice server. I havent actually tested it but wind has a max speed of 40kmh with setting for min/max speed, direction and variation in direction. I wonder if anyone will notice a differemce.
If you run the wings app that shows effective downforce, you will see how the downforce varies depending on which direction you're driving in.
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: Gratulin on May 21, 2017, 09:04:44 AM
Could we consider doing a rolling start? I am finding that if I make a very small error when launching I end up snapping sideways into the wall. I can live with the consequences of my own mistake but it will potentially ruin other's race.

PS. I think I know what the qual range will be - 1:04 to 1:09  :'(
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: Phil.8 on May 21, 2017, 09:56:49 AM
yeah, fast of you have the time or inclination to practice in these, I have neither, its can be a fun car but to be honest its all a bit toxic lately and no fun anymore
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: marty on May 21, 2017, 09:58:42 AM
Could we consider doing a rolling start? I am finding that if I make a very small error when launching I end up snapping sideways into the wall. I can live with the consequences of my own mistake but it will potentially ruin other's race.

PS. I think I know what the qual range will be - 1:04 to 1:09  :'(

Start is tricky especially with the old school packed grid formation, if you start on lower rpm and avoid wheelspin a bit it should stay more stable. Also dont try start at too high a boost as it will just make it trickier. I think in these cars getting a clean start is more important then trying to beat everyone to t1, there will be plenty off places to pass here and with the draft plus boost you can make a pass in nearly any section of the lap so making it around t1 cleanly is probably a bigger aim then gaining a spkt or 2.
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: Wally on May 21, 2017, 10:03:04 AM
Could we consider doing a rolling start? I am finding that if I make a very small error when launching I end up snapping sideways into the wall. I can live with the consequences of my own mistake but it will potentially ruin other's race.

PS. I think I know what the qual range will be - 1:04 to 1:09  :'(
Yes, I think a rolling start will be a good idea, until we get used to these cars. I might try a normal standing start for us to try it, but if it goes badly pear shaped, we'll fall back to a rolling start. You can also reduce your boost at the start, and then ramp it up once you're under way.

to be honest its all a bit toxic lately and no fun anymore
Only for a couple of people... time to practice your chill pills. It's up to you what you make of it :)

And on the topic of wind, it definitely mixes things up. I'll have a medium strength wind (in the vicinity of 20 kmh),with the first race about northerly (with a little bit of randomness), and the second race southerly. Your revs top out in different parts of the track, and different corners definitely have more spin risk with different wind directions.
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: Phil.8 on May 21, 2017, 10:12:40 AM
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Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: marty on May 21, 2017, 10:20:23 AM
yeah, fast of you have the time or inclination to practice in these, I have neither, its can be a fun car but to be honest its all a bit toxic lately and no fun anymore

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Lol I wonder why you think its toxic, surely nothing you post?
 
Maybe take that chill pill and stop with these types of posts unless your aim is to make things toxic in which case your doing well.
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: Wally on May 21, 2017, 10:29:58 AM
OK, to maintain a civil and fun atmosphere here, I'll be deleting anything toxic.
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: grat on May 21, 2017, 10:45:43 AM
OK, to maintain a civil and fun atmosphere here, I'll be deleting anything toxic.
And now what do I do with all the popcorns I bought?!?!?! ;)
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: marty on May 21, 2017, 10:49:02 AM
OK, to maintain a civil and fun atmosphere here, I'll be deleting anything toxic.
And now what do I do with all the popcorns I bought?!?!?! ;)

Eat it watching the v8's

You can also just check what lame attempt Phil makes in his sig next at trying to "not" be toxic. Just amazed someone that has so many issues with something and does their best to encourage said issues. Maybe to see the other face some may need to look in the mirror.  ;)
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: Bacchulum on May 21, 2017, 10:53:22 AM
 :-X
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: Gratulin on May 21, 2017, 01:27:23 PM
Thanks. It's gotta be the boost. Off the line I control revs and also use clutch to control the launch but I am occasionally snapping sideways after I change to 2nd. So reducing boost will make that more manageable. Now to map the boost buttons to the steering wheel...
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: marty on May 21, 2017, 01:43:07 PM
Thanks. It's gotta be the boost. Off the line I control revs and also use clutch to control the launch but I am occasionally snapping sideways after I change to 2nd. So reducing boost will make that more manageable. Now to map the boost buttons to the steering wheel...

Its a car you do really need to map buttons for boost up and down, race start full boost will just give more wheel spin so best avoided and finding a boost level your comfortable with off the line should help.

During the race you will want to manage the engine more then anything, they used to change engines for each session in these and even ran 2 engines in qualifying. Bringing it back in new condition means you havent pushed it enough but in a longer race you need to save boost up for when needed and maybe force those your chasing to use more then they want to give you the edge at the end of the race.

This sort of racing adds a bit to it and in the LMP1 cars its similar but there you just get more boos every time you brake or next lap, here you get 1 engine and need to make it last to the end. 100% can do 2 flying laps but do that in the race you will have nothing left for the rest of it and be a sitting duck to anyone that catches up so it makes for some fun strategy.
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: Wally on May 23, 2017, 12:33:59 PM
Given the closeness of the Exos in the poll, I'll make the second race an Exos race instead of a 98T race. It doesn't matter if you're unprepared, it's just to give people a taste if they are actually going to like to race this car.


So race 1 - 98T. Race 2 - Exos.
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: marty on May 23, 2017, 02:30:49 PM
Given the closeness of the Exos in the poll, I'll make the second race an Exos race instead of a 98T race. It doesn't matter if you're unprepared, it's just to give people a taste if they are actually going to like to race this car.


So race 1 - 98T. Race 2 - Exos.

Should maybe throw in the 72 as it looks dead in the water but if people find they don't like either of these it could be a runaway poll winner, at least we already had a season in that so not likely needing a fun run in it.  ;)
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: Wally on May 23, 2017, 03:32:43 PM
The 72 is a write off!
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: marty on May 23, 2017, 03:57:33 PM
I think the exos was on much the same votes last week the exos was a bit behind the 49 and 25, people change votes more often then they change their jocks I think.  ;D
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: Wally on May 23, 2017, 06:29:31 PM
Server's up, with the 98T for race 1.
I didn't add any wind for these races.
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: grat on May 23, 2017, 06:35:19 PM
is the exos race on the same track?
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: Wally on May 23, 2017, 06:49:15 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: Joe on May 23, 2017, 08:00:49 PM
Won't make tonight. Have fun  8)
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: Freezer on May 23, 2017, 09:45:47 PM
Firstly sorry to those who collected me whilst having a spin ( or two ).
Lotus 98T - to think that people actually drove those for real . . . freaks!   Not a big fan as I spend to much time hanging
on to the car and less time racing people.  Needless to say I had to many spins in this one.
Exos - certainly easier to drive, but you can lean on it and I think there would be much closer racing in this one.

In the Lotus I was at the back of the field, in the Exos I was coming 4th until a spin . . . so you can see my preference!
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: Gratulin on May 23, 2017, 09:50:53 PM
In the 2nd race tonight someone spun on the main straight, hit the barrier on the right and then rolled slowly backwards across the track. Needless to say I t-boned them, wrecking both cars.

In that situation, does putting your foot on the brake stop the car rolling? This would make it easier for following cars to take evasive action.
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: Wally on May 23, 2017, 09:52:34 PM
I agree, Freezer. The 98T was more exciting to drive, but the Exos was more exciting to race. Playing with the boost did spice up the 98T a bit, but you don't really get enough time at 100% over a longer race to get too many opportunities to use it.

I think out of these two, I prefer the Exos.
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: Mael on May 23, 2017, 09:58:10 PM
I agree, Freezer. The 98T was more exciting to drive, but the Exos was more exciting to race. Playing with the boost did spice up the 98T a bit, but you don't really get enough time at 100% over a longer race to get too many opportunities to use it.

I think out of these two, I prefer the Exos.

The 100% boost works a treat if you stuck behind anyone, used it to get by Bachulum  ;D  Can I vote for all the cars?
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: Wally on May 23, 2017, 10:05:54 PM
RACE RESULTS (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2017/05/fun-run-lotus-98t-and-lotus-exos-125-at.html)

Well done to Marty on the two race wins.
Well done to Doobs for the fastest 98T race lap!
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: marty on May 23, 2017, 10:21:26 PM
98T great car but surely wont win the pole as people will pick the least challenging car of the lot like most polls. So many claim to like these great old cars but they all go into hiding when it comes to picking one to race a season.

Exos at least has better tyres then it used to with the original car only having a hard slick that never wore and barely got to temp, this needed quite a bit of aero even here so It will likely just be high aero everywhere. It isn't a track it would ever realistically race on but was still a bit of a challenge to push for a lap time and could offer some fun drafting chances for anyone that's close.

Shame AC doesn't have proper DRS rules so everyone gets to use it but admins can set DRS zone on any tracks even though here I preferred it open as the most fun corner for me was the last turn with DRS open taken flat and never far away from a big accident there.
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: Wally on May 23, 2017, 10:31:28 PM
Shame AC doesn't have proper DRS rules so everyone gets to use it but admins can set DRS zone on any tracks even though here I preferred it open as the most fun corner for me was the last turn with DRS open taken flat and never far away from a big accident there.
I reckon it was just that this historic version of the track didn't have DRS zones. The newer layouts have the specific DRS zones.
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: GzeroD on May 23, 2017, 10:36:26 PM
...this needed quite a bit of aero even here..

I went with 5 front and 0 rear and still had my thumb on DRS non stop(having to reapply after braking). What wing did you run Marty?
Perhaps 0 wing was overkill as you could see by catching me in practice, but that was before I had DRS mapped. I just can't put in enough consistent laps to know if a particular way to go is really faster or not.
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: marty on May 23, 2017, 10:56:14 PM
Shame AC doesn't have proper DRS rules so everyone gets to use it but admins can set DRS zone on any tracks even though here I preferred it open as the most fun corner for me was the last turn with DRS open taken flat and never far away from a big accident there.
I reckon it was just that this historic version of the track didn't have DRS zones. The newer layouts have the specific DRS zones.

You can use the DRS app in dev apps to make DRS zones for any track then add this file to the server and all will use the same DRS zones. Still there is no DRS rules so everyone can use it every lap so its kind of pointless at least having it open all the way around the track at least leaves strategy for people to commit to using DRS in some sketchy fast corners with some risk.

...this needed quite a bit of aero even here..

I went with 5 front and 0 rear and still had my thumb on DRS non stop(having to reapply after braking). What wing did you run Marty?
Perhaps 0 wing was overkill as you could see by catching me in practice, but that was before I had DRS mapped. I just can't put in enough consistent laps to know if a particular way to go is really faster or not.

No Idea how you could drive it with 5 front and 0 rear lol, maybe with TC this was possible and surely stability control isn't enabled in the server but still would have been much slower. I only did a few laps this afternoon to test basic aero. Going very low the car was way too slow in corners and not any more top speed as it lost so much exit speed. I ran 12f 11r this gave reasonable balance and corner speeds. DRS you only need to tap once and then it turns off when you brake or tap it again. If I went too much front vs rear the back end would let go everywhere so I don't know how it would be driveable at all.

Its not always minimum aero at high speed tracks, if the apex speeds are so much slower you barely get to the same top speed it will be losing lots of time per lap. The exos on the other hand I ran 3 3 aero I think as more didn't gain much cornering speed here and the fast corners were still flat at this setting and lots of aero in that is very draggy when running less boost.
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: doobs on May 24, 2017, 12:44:23 AM
98T great car but surely wont win the pole as people will pick the least challenging car of the lot like most polls. So many claim to like these great old cars but they all go into hiding when it comes to picking one to race a season.

It's a fantastic car. Not surprisingly I chose it and am really disappointed that the easy option looks like getting up.
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: marty on May 24, 2017, 07:36:35 AM
98T great car but surely wont win the pole as people will pick the least challenging car of the lot like most polls. So many claim to like these great old cars but they all go into hiding when it comes to picking one to race a season.

It's a fantastic car. Not surprisingly I chose it and am really disappointed that the easy option looks like getting up.

Its a bit of a shame but at least with all the options they are quite different to the last few seasons. I was kind of shocked the 98t went to the top of the votes and was fairly sure it wouldnt stay there.
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: Wally on May 24, 2017, 07:45:59 AM
I think the 98T is great fun, but the 125 is funner.
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: Shayne on May 24, 2017, 08:44:49 AM
I really enjoyed the 98T, deciding on when to use boost throughout a race would be good fun but the exos had a lot closer racing. The first couple of laps in the exos were very close and from what I seen most people handled that without problems. The same can't be said for the 98T, that seemed to spread out quite quickly.

I don't really know where I want to place my vote, I've changed it a few times already but I just can't decide.... I want the 98T because it's exciting and could be death at every corner but the exos did show a lot of exciting close racing so I just don't know.
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: Simone on May 24, 2017, 09:04:10 AM
When ppl is talking about how a car gives more closing racing more than another one.....i just know  that they have been drinking a xxxx 6 pack with a bottle of stoned

Simone
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: doobs on May 24, 2017, 09:05:56 AM
98T great car but surely wont win the pole as people will pick the least challenging car of the lot like most polls. So many claim to like these great old cars but they all go into hiding when it comes to picking one to race a season.

It's a fantastic car. Not surprisingly I chose it and am really disappointed that the easy option looks like getting up.

Its a bit of a shame but at least with all the options they are quite different to the last few seasons. I was kind of shocked the 98t went to the top of the votes and was fairly sure it wouldnt stay there.

Yes, it's not a sedan. I didn't find it that difficult to drive, a;though having said that, I have no idea how I steered into the wall. I don't know if I got a gentle touch, but the front suddenly got a lot of grip. It wasn't a rear end lose. Still, I had a cracking time because the car is fun to drive. I can give or take close racing but I can barely stand driving boring cars. The Exo will still be fun, but the 98T is funner.  :)
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: Freezer on May 24, 2017, 11:57:45 AM
98T great car but surely wont win the pole as people will pick the least challenging car of the lot like most polls. So many claim to like these great old cars but they all go into hiding when it comes to picking one to race a season.

It's a fantastic car. Not surprisingly I chose it and am really disappointed that the easy option looks like getting up.

Its a bit of a shame but at least with all the options they are quite different to the last few seasons. I was kind of shocked the 98t went to the top of the votes and was fairly sure it wouldnt stay there.

Yes, it's not a sedan. I didn't find it that difficult to drive, a;though having said that, I have no idea how I steered into the wall. I don't know if I got a gentle touch, but the front suddenly got a lot of grip. It wasn't a rear end lose. Still, I had a cracking time because the car is fun to drive. I can give or take close racing but I can barely stand driving boring cars. The Exo will still be fun, but the 98T is funner.  :)
You can hot lap a difficult car any time you like but hasn't great racing always been about 'Close Racing'. ?
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: marty on May 24, 2017, 12:46:23 PM
Close racing in difficult cars is much more rewarding then close racing in simpler cars.  ;) It wasnt that close in the exos anyway. Both races went pretty much the same way with a good battle earpy that fizzled out to hotlap sessions. If the racong isnt close then a more fun car to drive is at least better when nobody is around.

I think that was the simplest track you will ever get in the exos so racing wont get any closer unless we run an oval or old Monza. A more technical track will have much bigger gaps in these cars.

Normally a more challenging car its harder to run consistant laps close to the limit so if you lose a bit of time its more likely to get it back with some solid laps. In the exos lose a few seconds and you likely wont ever catch back up, 98t there is also the boost strategy so you can save the engine for later in the race or force someone to abuse theirs early in defence, no gaps are safe when you can make 4 seconds per lap turning up the boost.  ;)

DRS even if using the 1 second rule wont be much different to what it was, it will likely make passing a bit too easy but in this race if someone was within 1 sec the draft was enough to get alongside and make a pass if both used drs.
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: doobs on May 24, 2017, 01:26:02 PM
98T great car but surely wont win the pole as people will pick the least challenging car of the lot like most polls. So many claim to like these great old cars but they all go into hiding when it comes to picking one to race a season.

It's a fantastic car. Not surprisingly I chose it and am really disappointed that the easy option looks like getting up.

Its a bit of a shame but at least with all the options they are quite different to the last few seasons. I was kind of shocked the 98t went to the top of the votes and was fairly sure it wouldnt stay there.

Yes, it's not a sedan. I didn't find it that difficult to drive, a;though having said that, I have no idea how I steered into the wall. I don't know if I got a gentle touch, but the front suddenly got a lot of grip. It wasn't a rear end lose. Still, I had a cracking time because the car is fun to drive. I can give or take close racing but I can barely stand driving boring cars. The Exo will still be fun, but the 98T is funner.  :)
You can hot lap a difficult car any time you like but hasn't great racing always been about 'Close Racing'. ?

The only hotlapping I did in that car was the fastest lap I did. I did over a hundred laps practice on and off the server and only because the car was good fun to drive. I certainly wasn't practicing to hot lap. 95% of the practice I did was on medium tyres trying to drive the circuit properly. Close racing only excites me when the car does, otherwise I don't care too much. That shows in my results. I generally only do half and hour to an hour practice normally because the cars are dull.
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: doobs on May 24, 2017, 01:28:56 PM
RACE RESULTS (http://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2017/05/fun-run-lotus-98t-and-lotus-exos-125-at.html)

Well done to Marty on the two race wins.
Well done to Doobs for the fastest 98T race lap!

Thanks for the recognition Wally. That's what 100% boost and 100 laps of practice in a fun car can do.
Maybe I should practice more.
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: Mael on May 24, 2017, 01:49:00 PM
Thanks for the recognition Wally. That's what 100% boost and 100 laps of practice in a fun car can do.
Maybe I should practice more.

I suspect that's true for most of us! I did a lot more laps in the 98t and it showed, You fasted lap edged mine by 0.088s  :)

Did my fasted lap on the last lap with 100% boost in a effort to close the gap to Grat but it appears he had the same idea as his fastest lap was also on lap 17. Was a very frustrating/entertaining race as I could see Grat in front of me the whole race but never quite managed to close the gap to him.
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: Bacchulum on May 24, 2017, 01:56:51 PM
Quote
Hunter: Bacchulum (avg gap to car in front 1.72 secs)
Hunted: Bacchulum (avg gap to car behind 1.65 secs)
Busiest: Bacchulum (avg total gap in front and behind 3.37 secs)

I reckon the 98T gave closer racing, personally. 8)
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: Freezer on May 24, 2017, 02:08:29 PM
Close racing in difficult cars is much more rewarding then close racing in simpler cars.  ;)
But with the spread of talent across our field, the difficult cars tend to remove the closeness and people end up running on their own . . . .
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: doobs on May 24, 2017, 02:13:16 PM
Thanks for the recognition Wally. That's what 100% boost and 100 laps of practice in a fun car can do.
Maybe I should practice more.

I suspect that's true for most of us! I did a lot more laps in the 98t and it showed, You fasted lap edged mine by 0.088s  :)

Did my fasted lap on the last lap with 100% boost in a effort to close the gap to Grat but it appears he had the same idea as his fastest lap was also on lap 17. Was a very frustrating/entertaining race as I could see Grat in front of me the whole race but never quite managed to close the gap to him.
😀 That's what I expect I would have had for most of the race too, if I didn't have my weirdness, and I would have loved it. I get more enjoyment from that kind of racing in an awesome car than a race where I might have passed one or two, and been passed by ten other cars in a boring car.
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: marty on May 24, 2017, 03:40:05 PM
Close racing in difficult cars is much more rewarding then close racing in simpler cars.  ;)
But with the spread of talent across our field, the difficult cars tend to remove the closeness and people end up running on their own . . . .

It really hasn't made much difference in cars, the overall closest season up front I think was the lotus 72d vs ferrari 312t. The last few seasons were close in terms of gaps but I think I made 3 passes last night which is more then I probably made on track all of last season. There were races last season where we stayed within a few seconds even over a 1 hour distance but hardly any passes were made so it was far from exciting racing. I think I also had most hunter awards because the races I didnt lead I was just stuck behind other cars not really being able to get past, trickier cars provide better racing as you cant push 100% all the way and need to back off a little. If your behind you can push on more take some more risk the leader is unlikely to be taking, a car like the exos there is no reason not to push 100% every lap and still be within a few tenths most laps, this means if you get a gap its unlikely anyone will catch it back up.
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: Wally on May 24, 2017, 03:51:23 PM
In the 98T, over a 50 min race, I expect lots of blown engines/gearboxes and accidents, which should jumble the field in any given race.
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: grat on May 24, 2017, 07:24:34 PM
Thanks for the recognition Wally. That's what 100% boost and 100 laps of practice in a fun car can do.
Maybe I should practice more.

I suspect that's true for most of us! I did a lot more laps in the 98t and it showed, You fasted lap edged mine by 0.088s  :)

Did my fasted lap on the last lap with 100% boost in a effort to close the gap to Grat but it appears he had the same idea as his fastest lap was also on lap 17. Was a very frustrating/entertaining race as I could see Grat in front of me the whole race but never quite managed to close the gap to him.
Eheheeheh,... I had a button mapped to the turbo, and my finger mapped to the mirrors :)
Title: Re: May 23 Fun Run - Lotus 98T at Silverstone 67
Post by: Freezer on May 24, 2017, 10:26:50 PM
Close racing in difficult cars is much more rewarding then close racing in simpler cars.  ;)
But with the spread of talent across our field, the difficult cars tend to remove the closeness and people end up running on their own . . . .

It really hasn't made much difference in cars, the overall closest season up front I think was the lotus 72d vs ferrari 312t. The last few seasons were close in terms of gaps but I think I made 3 passes last night which is more then I probably made on track all of last season. There were races last season where we stayed within a few seconds even over a 1 hour distance but hardly any passes were made so it was far from exciting racing. I think I also had most hunter awards because the races I didnt lead I was just stuck behind other cars not really being able to get past, trickier cars provide better racing as you cant push 100% all the way and need to back off a little. If your behind you can push on more take some more risk the leader is unlikely to be taking, a car like the exos there is no reason not to push 100% every lap and still be within a few tenths most laps, this means if you get a gap its unlikely anyone will catch it back up.
But your reference point is the 3 guys out in front who are all pretty close . . . . in the mid pack it's not necessarily the case!