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Title: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: Phil.8 on February 08, 2018, 07:52:59 PM
Track
https://actrackrebootproject.wixsite.com/ac-track-re-boot/spa-francorchamps-1966

Car
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1H0p5mYJ5Bo4dkLyjM5uta5Gxgm3iwnIz&export=download
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run
Post by: GzeroD on February 08, 2018, 10:11:00 PM
Interserie race at Spa 1966 (see AC Track ReBoot site)

Group 7

Lola T260                  1971
Lola T260 mid wing
McLaren M8c             1969
McLaren M8c high wing
Nissan R382             1969
Porsche 917/10        1972
Porsche 917/30        1973

Race could be sometime in 1975 or 1976 where the private owners of the above cars have upgraded for performance or down tuned for reliability of each car.
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run
Post by: rooshooter on February 09, 2018, 07:18:28 AM
Interserie race at Spa 1966 (see AC Track ReBoot site)

Group 7

Lola T260                  1971
Lola T260 mid wing
McLaren M8c             1969
McLaren M8c high wing
Nissan R382             1969
Porsche 917/10        1972
Porsche 917/30        1973

Race could be sometime in 1975 or 1976 where the private owners of the above cars have upgraded for performance or down tuned for reliability of each car.
Looks good to me , lets go with this one for the 15/02/18 to allow enough time for everyone to be ready.
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run
Post by: rooshooter on February 09, 2018, 07:31:40 AM
Track can be downloaded from here

https://actrackrebootproject.wixsite.com/ac-track-re-boot/spa-francorchamps-1966
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run
Post by: Phil.8 on February 09, 2018, 11:42:18 AM
where do I get the cars from,  been busy this week and not seen anything on these cars yet
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run
Post by: GzeroD on February 09, 2018, 12:28:40 PM
Just double checking for errors, updates soon.
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run
Post by: rooshooter on February 09, 2018, 12:33:25 PM
where do I get the cars from,  been busy this week and not seen anything on these cars yet
I have most of the cars Phil, but I am not sure where I got them from :-[ Spa 66 has 32 grid spots but I still think we should slim down the selection of cars to give a BoP for ease of handicapping. Seanus/Bacchulum do you have any preferences of what should be included and can they be put into one package?
Spa 66 looks amazing , but the lap time in one of these CanAm cars is still 3m30s.
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run
Post by: GzeroD on February 09, 2018, 01:54:50 PM
... but I am not sure where I got them from :-[ ...

LOL There all mine Rooshooter. :D B.O.P'd and almost ready for upload.
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run
Post by: GzeroD on February 09, 2018, 01:58:39 PM
...but the lap time in one of these CanAm cars is still 3m30s....

 ;D ;D And nigh on most of that is above 200mph.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run
Post by: rooshooter on February 09, 2018, 02:55:09 PM
... but I am not sure where I got them from :-[ ...

LOL There all mine Rooshooter. :D B.O.P'd and almost ready for upload.
My humble apologies Seanus ( I knew some were, but I thought I had seen the Chaparral 2E plus others  at F1 Classic) :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run
Post by: Gratulin on February 09, 2018, 03:08:38 PM
Lucky the spectators/marshalls have got those safety barriers to protect them. Might get injured otherwise  8) 8)
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run
Post by: GzeroD on February 09, 2018, 06:13:40 PM
Group 7 Improved Carset. (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1H0p5mYJ5Bo4dkLyjM5uta5Gxgm3iwnIz)
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run
Post by: Bacchulum on February 09, 2018, 06:50:21 PM
 ;D 8) ;D 8) ;D 8) ;D
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run
Post by: Bacchulum on February 09, 2018, 07:50:35 PM
Track can be downloaded from here

https://actrackrebootproject.wixsite.com/ac-track-re-boot/spa-francorchamps-1966
FINALLY!!!!
A track with a blimp! ;D
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run
Post by: rooshooter on February 09, 2018, 07:53:28 PM
Track can be downloaded from here

https://actrackrebootproject.wixsite.com/ac-track-re-boot/spa-francorchamps-1966
FINALLY!!!!
A track with a blimp! ;D
I also noticed that this morning and I thought Bacchulum will be happy ;D ;D
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: Phil.8 on February 09, 2018, 09:17:48 PM
First post updated and server is up
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: rooshooter on February 10, 2018, 07:26:26 AM
Checkout the top Speed and lap times from Bacchulum and Seanus  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

http://52.63.217.129:50041/lapstat?currservers=acserver
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: Bacchulum on February 10, 2018, 08:55:16 AM
And that's still with decent aero, as you need a bit to keep it on the track over the bumps.
And I figured it's got the power to push the drag. 8)

(might see what I can do sober, today)
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: rooshooter on February 10, 2018, 09:12:08 AM
And that's still with decent aero, as you need a bit to keep it on the track over the bumps.
And I figured it's got the power to push the drag. 8)

(might see what I can do sober, today)
You have got to be joking ;D ;D ;D   I used to love driving "half charged" I am sure I was quicker than being sober, to have any chance now I have to be completely sober :'( :'( :'(.
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: rooshooter on February 10, 2018, 09:17:08 AM
Track
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1H0p5mYJ5Bo4dkLyjM5uta5Gxgm3iwnIz&export=download

Car
https://actrackrebootproject.wixsite.com/ac-track-re-boot/spa-francorchamps-1966
You have car and track links reversed Phil :)
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: Phil.8 on February 10, 2018, 12:31:12 PM
oops  fixed
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: Gratulin on February 10, 2018, 03:41:26 PM
Too difficult for me...I'll sit this one out.
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: Bacchulum on February 10, 2018, 03:49:20 PM
I've u/l sets for the M8C H/W, 917/10 & T260 M/W.
Obviously the M8C set is much more refined, as I just LOVE that sweet music. 8)

More info:
I greatly increased front stiffness while reducing the rear, based purely on modern frequency theory. (a bit of a 'periodic' cheat)
I've also used a medium d/f setting, to help with the bumps, and balanced the CofP to around 48% front (technically a bit too forward but seems to work).
To make it more stable I'd add rear wing (not wicker), as the front is a more dramatic change.

So try my set (with a couple of clicks added rear) Gratulin, it might be more pleasurable (but it's still a beast).
I should be able to help make it even more user friendly, with feedback. ;)
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: rooshooter on February 10, 2018, 04:28:31 PM
Too difficult for me...I'll sit this one out.
I was thinking the same thing, in the Nissan I am 20seconds slower than Bacchulum (and that was hard work), however I will give his setups a try and see if they help. I think there will be a few of us that may struggle to do fast times, but if we are just happy to lap at a comfortable pace , we may have a race within a race. If we could get a big grid it would be great, I would just enjoy "riding mechanic" in the replays, sitting in with a few of the regular Thursday drivers ;D ;D ;D 8).
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: Gratulin on February 10, 2018, 05:02:30 PM
I just tried Baccus' setups and they are much better. However... I am the same - too slow if I want to stay on the track. I've only done one valid lap!

Having said that. These cars are brilliant fun to drive around the Spa 1966 circuit. They will become my demo cars when friend visit!! I love seeing and hearing their reactions when they put their foot down in these things!!
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: Bacchulum on February 10, 2018, 06:21:36 PM
Yeah, I just thanked G0D personally for giving me my new favourite car. ;D 8)
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: GzeroD on February 10, 2018, 06:21:59 PM
@Bacchulum

See what you think of this skin (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1rXd9NXF4YsCN2elVoPLPKXTrDFkt87cv) as requested.

Gold and matt colours are really hard to get right.
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: Bacchulum on February 10, 2018, 06:53:41 PM
Gold and matt colours are really hard to get right.
Yeah, I know, I've tried. :-[
Thank you very much for the quick response.
Now I'm off to do laps and look at replays of myself. 8)
(no, not arrogant ::) )
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: Mael on February 11, 2018, 02:55:16 AM
Yeah, I just thanked G0D personally for giving me my new favourite car. ;D 8)

And new favourite track.

PS The cars would be great for oval racing    :)

Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: Phil.8 on February 11, 2018, 02:00:08 PM
Yeah, I just thanked G0D personally for giving me my new favourite car. ;D 8)

And new favourite track.

PS The cars would be great for oval racing    :)

Should we change to an oval so everyone has enjoyment ? and use this track next week in something more sedate ?
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: GzeroD on February 11, 2018, 02:43:52 PM
Should we change to an oval so everyone has enjoyment ? and use this track next week in something more sedate ?

NO.(stay tuned)
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: rooshooter on February 11, 2018, 02:51:34 PM
Should we change to an oval so everyone has enjoyment ? and use this track next week in something more sedate ?

NO.(stay tuned)
I for one, would not want to deprive the people who can drive these cars, the absolute blast they would have, in a race around this track. I would be happy to have a night off and just "ride mechanic" with the drivers who can control these beasts while enjoying a few beverages  8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8).
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: GzeroD on February 11, 2018, 02:52:52 PM
Yeah, I just thanked G0D personally for giving me my new favourite car. ;D 8)

And new favourite track.

PS The cars would be great for oval racing    :)
Quote
I for one, would not want to deprive the people who can drive these cars...

Ditto

For Oval racing we must not forget about this Mod (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1qOcXU5NuTiPxY3KT9AjwkfwzG9YyRwYc).
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: rooshooter on February 11, 2018, 02:57:31 PM
"Obviously the M8C set is much more refined, as I just LOVE that sweet music. 8)" quote from Bacchulum.
The sound file for this car is imho the best/most immersive sound file for a sim car I have heard, there is no mistaking that you are driving a huge horsepower "beast" :o :o 8) 8) well done Seanus.
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: gawaterman on February 11, 2018, 06:19:07 PM
I've u/l sets for the M8C H/W, 917/10 & T260 M/W.
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Where do I find them please?
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: gawaterman on February 11, 2018, 06:20:12 PM
Yeah, I just thanked G0D personally for giving me my new favourite car. ;D 8)

And new favourite track.

PS The cars would be great for oval racing    :)

Should we change to an oval so everyone has enjoyment ? and use this track next week in something more sedate ?

Any reason we can't use it twice?
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: Bacchulum on February 11, 2018, 06:40:35 PM
I've u/l sets for the M8C H/W, 917/10 & T260 M/W.
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Where do I find them please?
sTracker, on the practice server. 

or

  below.
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: gawaterman on February 11, 2018, 11:11:33 PM
Thanks, sorry didn't realize setups stayed there after you left the server.
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: rooshooter on February 13, 2018, 08:06:35 AM
Phil, could we turn off damage for this event please, should make it a bit more fun and make practice easier.
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: Phil.8 on February 13, 2018, 12:29:37 PM
Damage is off now
Also I wont make it Thursday because its my wife's birthday, how many laps would you like the server set to ?
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: rooshooter on February 13, 2018, 01:10:29 PM
Damage is off now
Also I wont make it Thursday because its my wife's birthday, how many laps would you like the server set to ?
Thanks Phil, sorry you won't make it, I was looking forward to seeing what you could do in one of these cars :(.

I would prefer if Bacchulum or Seanus ,made the call on number of laps for this event.
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: Phil.8 on February 13, 2018, 02:45:06 PM
I might make it sometime during towards the end
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: Bacchulum on February 13, 2018, 05:44:19 PM
How long do we want the races to be?
5 laps is ~16m40s while 7 laps is ~23m20s.
I think 11 laps will be too much.
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: Mael on February 13, 2018, 06:04:33 PM
How long do we want the races to be?
5 laps is ~16m40s while 7 laps is ~23m20s.
I think 11 laps will be too much.

Since 1 lap without crashing is an achievement for me I would say 5 laps is good. The gaps between drivers would be too large after 5 laps.

BTW any idea how much fuel needed by the Nissan per lap?
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: Phil.8 on February 14, 2018, 09:49:35 PM
I cant finish a lap, any bumps and cars just snap sideways, is there any tips to these, or just go slower ?
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: Bacchulum on February 14, 2018, 09:59:48 PM
I only get to full throttle in 4th.

Try it without tyre warmers, it took me 7 attempts to get to Eau Rouge! :o
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: Mael on February 15, 2018, 03:21:53 PM
Some laughs before tonight's tragedy  ;D

https://twitter.com/ToroRosso/status/963810334753677312/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.espn.com.au%2Ff1%2F
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: Phil.8 on February 15, 2018, 04:36:30 PM
lol that's good :)
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: fozzy on February 15, 2018, 08:17:21 PM
Hello, is anyone able to message an admin in the server if it is possible for me to join in the race tonight please?
Thanks, I raced here before but i cant join the server now for some reason, its not letting me in with the password i used to use
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: Phil.8 on February 15, 2018, 09:52:34 PM
I am really sorry, I just saw this,  the password is the same,  I am not sure why you could not join
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: rooshooter on February 16, 2018, 08:39:14 AM
A great Fun Run, if you missed it you missed  something special, for all sorts of reasons :o ;D ;D. Congratulations to  Mael , Bacchulum and especially to Rob (I sensed it has been a while :() on the race wins and thanks to everyone that participated . Thanks to Bacchulum for suggesting it and Seanus for making it possible. Another season idea for the future was also created 8).
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: gawaterman on February 16, 2018, 09:25:34 AM
Not much fun for me, after all those laps practicing and qualifying, had a big crash on lap2, and despite no damage being on, it somehow lost a front wheel. Originally thought I had landed on a bit of track-side rubbish but replay shows a front wheel wedged under the car. :'(
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: rooshooter on February 16, 2018, 09:52:14 AM
Not much fun for me, after all those laps practicing and qualifying, had a big crash on lap2, and despite no damage being on, it somehow lost a front wheel. Originally thought I had landed on a bit of track-side rubbish but replay shows a front wheel wedged under the car. :'(
Sorry to hear that GW , I heard you say it over Discord but the impact on you did not sink in , sorry :-[ :-[.

Anyone got any ideas why?

Is it possible to escape back to the pits during an online race?
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: rob on February 16, 2018, 10:32:27 AM
@ GW
I had the same thing happen to me in race 2. Damage is off and yet I ended up with steering wheel at 45*.

@Dennis
Yep, you can Esc back to pits but you lose a lap.
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: Bacchulum on February 16, 2018, 12:30:30 PM
Thanks to Bacchulum for suggesting it and Seanus for making it possible.
I can't take credit for that, I stayed out of it.
It was actually Seanus' suggestion (I merely agreed 8) )
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: GzeroD on February 16, 2018, 03:30:04 PM
replay shows a front wheel wedged under the car. :'(
...Anyone got any ideas why?...

This happens to all cars. If the hit is big enough the wheels will travel past the suspension stops quicker than the Physics Engine can keep up with and it loses where the suspension should be. So damage for the car may be turned off but if you hit the algorithm hard enough the Maths breaks.
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: rooshooter on February 16, 2018, 06:11:25 PM
replay shows a front wheel wedged under the car. :'(
...Anyone got any ideas why?...

This happens to all cars. If the hit is big enough the wheels will travel past the suspension stops quicker than the Physics Engine can keep up with and it loses where the suspension should be. So damage for the car may be turned off but if you hit the algorithm hard enough the Maths breaks.
Thanks Seanus, not many people would have been able to provide the answer :).  I think we forget at times it is all just one's and zero's with  very  leading edge mathamatical  simulations thrown into the mix.
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: Bacchulum on February 16, 2018, 06:48:00 PM
I reject that, don't believe in binary! >:(
How can anything that has no prime numbers function?
It's all bullshit. ::)




 :P :P ;D
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: rooshooter on February 16, 2018, 07:56:18 PM
I reject that, don't believe in binary! >:(
How can anything that has no prime numbers function?
It's all bullshit. ::)
 zero cannot be divided by any other number  ;D



 :P :P ;D
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: Bacchulum on February 16, 2018, 08:57:02 PM
I reject that, don't believe in binary! >:(
How can anything that has no prime numbers function?
It's all bullshit. ::)
 zero cannot be divided by any other number  ;D



 :P :P ;D
But there's another rule to comply with to make a prime.
Two primes multiplied together can't equal a prime.
Zero times two equals zero, two's a prime so zero can't be. ;)
This rule also excludes one.
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: GzeroD on February 16, 2018, 09:15:18 PM
So if Base10 only has four primes then I hate to think of your preferred system.
 ;D ;D ;D ;D

Sexagesimal

Pentanonagesimal
 
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: GzeroD on February 16, 2018, 09:24:07 PM
Other Base systems will have numbers which, not prime in their own notation will be prime if decoded using some other base
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: Phil.8 on February 16, 2018, 10:59:16 PM
https://goo.gl/images/Y9snWR
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: Bacchulum on February 16, 2018, 11:06:57 PM
The obvious answer is the Prime base system. ;)
(still working on that one, trying to find the pattern :-X )
 ;D 8)
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: GzeroD on February 17, 2018, 12:14:21 AM
https://goo.gl/images/Y9snWR (https://goo.gl/images/Y9snWR)

12 Demerit points for posting a Meme in a Foreign language.
Title: Re: Thursday Fun Run 15-02-2018
Post by: gawaterman on February 17, 2018, 12:23:51 PM
And I thought the worst part was not being able to finish the race, reading all that is far worse.
Wished I'd just shut up.  ::)