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Should be an interesting race.

Shorty will lose all hope after the long pit stop of course.

http://xgn.com.au/index.php?topic=2444.msg47490#msg47490

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From pre-season I ranked the cars, fastest to slowest:

C9
Longtail
Shortail
Mazda

so I never understood the shorty getting restriction of any kind. ???

http://xgn.com.au/index.php?topic=2444.msg47490#msg47490

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Hm...yet another track where the short tail will be schooled on the straight, and no way to take the position back later.  Not complaining, just stating the facts ;)

I've managed a decent low 37 but I'm burning up the rears after a lap or two...:/   
The last bit was always a weak part for me on this layout, I reckon in the proper hands the shorty could do a 36 no probs.  I just can't get the last 3 corners done properly, especially the 3rd last, I keep losing grip there (as usual for me).
You're only 0.15 off of Kcender's C9 time!

Might be time to start adding ballast back to the Shorty!!

...and an extra manadatory pit stop to the c9 to even the pit times out :D

No, I reckon even as it is, it's a penalty that you have to try and get past on the twisties, not comfortably on the straight.  The pit stop & fuel usage is an added burden, still.
The Shorty has barely been in the top 10 all season . . . so not sure why we keep talking about penalising it!   Practice server lap times are not at all reflective of the racing reality.

Exactly. Race wise the Shorty and Mazda produce some close racing, but we've had zero chance against the longtail or C9s as they smoke us on the straights, slow us down in the corners but can't get past and even if we manage a pass due to a mistake they'll smoke us on the next straight.

http://xgn.com.au/index.php?topic=2444.msg47490#msg47490

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Hardware & Reviews / Re: New fanatec licensed F1 rim
« on: December 16, 2018, 03:54:34 PM »
another Fanatec pre-order  ::)

I'll open the bets with a 2 month delay due to "issues found in last minute testing".

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So this thread is closed and all whinging about cars is a penalty offence for the rest of the season?

 8)

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Was a round of survival for me, this track always presents a unique challenge for me.

Decided to start at the back and just try to circulate.  I see Able copped a penalty for the tap I got on lap 1.  The contact was borderline, I actually waited for him because I thought I may have closed the door a bit late.  Anyway, no harm done.

Just plodded around watching the brad / Freezer / Keith battle for most of the night.  Pitted and put softs on by mistake, drove to try and conserve the rubber letting Wally close in.  I think I had enough straight line handling in reserve to hold him off but as he mentioned he had a moment with a few laps to go so I just cruised home.  I was catch Keith who looked to have fried the tyres on the Merc but I had not intention on trying bomb dive into a corner given the gap the C9 pulled on the straights.

All in all I was happy to get a 10th.  Not something I would say often!

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gee that corner coming onto the back straight is a tricky one, think I need to change my visibility out of the cockpit as I'm finding the apex rather difficult to find....

There is an apex?

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Rarely bother watching the reply, life is too short.

Watched the start on this one due to the chatter, I think the rulings are spot on for both.  One was a car drifting across 3 lanes forcing a car off, the other was clear front to rear contact forcing a car off.  Jeremy certainly exacerbated but not sure you can penalise a car for getting a great start!

It's good to have a friendly debate, let's make sure it stays that way and we all respect the work Wally puts in.  To me it's pretty clear, if you are out of lane in the first corners and impact another drivers race through contact you will get a penalty.  If you rear end someone on lap 1 you will most likely get a penalty (exception if there is mitigating circumstance ahead).

My race was ok, I have been sick as dog for the last few days so wasn't sure concentration / endurance would be there.  Pleased to have only had 1 minor off during the whole race although I was at least 1 second down on practice pace.  Sorry for the rejoin Phil, tyres were spinning, I was trying to leave room on the racing line for you but at a really bad spot.  The longtail was horrible in the first half of the track and a bullet on the back straight - I am sure quite a few people (Phil, Wally, Killa) were cursing me at times :)

I am enjoying the different natures of the cars, it adds a new element in understanding who, and more importantly how, you are racing.  Killa got stuck behind me for 10 laps at the end, he was quicker but I could open the gap on the back straight, all I had to do was focus on T1, if he had got past there he would have gapped me by the back straight.  It helps when you are on the winning side but I love that kind of strategy and intensity.

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I will experiment a bit and see if a little bit of restrictor on the C9 can compensate for the quicker refuelling time. But man, it's a delicate balancing act. Who's fool idea was it to have a multi-make season?

I think we should be careful trying to adjust too much.  As it is there is a fairly good distribution of cars, you are always competing for your "class" victory.

The re-fueling is the only major issue.  Would be good if on of the resident gurus could figure out how to add a 30sec timed penalty at the stop or adjust the flow rate.
A tiny bit of restrictor is easier. No one has to download anything, which is always a blessing, trust me. Restrictor has a greater effect on high revs I. E top speed, and I reckon it will only have to be a tiny bit of restrictor to compensate for a quicker stop over a whole hour race.

yeahbut :) that will mean the C9 will have to be slower than all the other cars by ~30 seconds a stint and then make up the time in the pits (unless I am clueless.... actually...). Que the C9 guys leaving once it isn't the faster / most challenging car.

Off to to better things.

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I will experiment a bit and see if a little bit of restrictor on the C9 can compensate for the quicker refuelling time. But man, it's a delicate balancing act. Who's fool idea was it to have a multi-make season?

I think we should be careful trying to adjust too much.  As it is there is a fairly good distribution of cars, you are always competing for your "class" victory.

The re-fueling is the only major issue.  Would be good if on of the resident gurus could figure out how to add a 30sec timed penalty at the stop or adjust the flow rate.




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I messed up by starting the race on qualifying fuel.  A bit of a shock when I got the “we’ve used half the fuel” call as I crossed the S/F for the 2nd time.  Put to bed all my stop minimisation strategy as I now had to endure 2 99L stops AND try and conserve a bit.

I did enjoy the racing in general although the blue flags for most of the race were a bit tedious.  Because I went a lap down early due to the stop I felt a bit like Ocon at points.  Luckily the LT was able to round up most of the cars on the back straight.

It will be interesting to see how the season pans out.  Next week may not give a final picture but should be a bit more competitive for the field.  Closing speeds and slowness in corners will no doubt be a topic of discussion.  Daytona was ok as the C9 and LT could close massive ground and build a big gap before the twisty bits, maybe not so clear cut at Sebring.

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Sure have.  A season of 2 halves. Should be fun.

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OK, Daytona is a tricky track to balance fuel because of it's high speed, and the cars have very different fuel economies. The other two-stop races are easier to work out as 2 stoppers.

What I'm going to have to do here is make the fuel multiplier 1.8x, and make a rule that everybody has to pit twice (as some cars will be able to do it in 1 stop). You have to do something in the stop - add some fuel, change tyres, or both.

I look forward to cutting out some of the corners on the tighter tracks to take away the short tail advantage  :P

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Long tail for me.  Thanks

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The Merc is going to be hard to beat if in the hands of anyone with skill/setup/patience (or a mixture).

Should be a fun series

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