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« on: July 08, 2020, 12:19:55 PM »
Answer...sort of but not really...
I've had the Fanatec DD1 for a couple weeks now and decided to share my thoughts on it. Before I get into it though I'll talk about how I got to this point.
Starting off a few years ago, getting back into sim racing and signing up here I bought the Logitech G920 and shifter and mounted it to my old wobbly fanatec wheel stand (the folding one) it did the job and I was having fun racing online with all you cool guys. Looking to get faster (my original wheel that I didn't use much was fanatec porsche with load cell and crap plastic shifter) I wanted to get a load cell pedal again. I bought the fanatec v2.5 kit with v3 pedals and shifter, all mounted to my wobbly wheel stand. The load cell pedals made the biggest difference for my lap times, mostly for my consistency which overall still needed a lot of work. The high quality metal sequential/H-pattern shifter was a bonus for atleast the feel and not having to modify my logitech one with rubberbands to turn it into sequential mode lol. There was also slightly more precision with the v2.5 not that noticable but helped to catch or moreso recover from a slide. The extra power from the wheel meant i had to add some home made brackets to stiffen the wheel stand (but it still moved occassionally). Opportunity to move my PC to another room and set a up a permanent rig I purchased a Next Level Racing GT-Track at about $800 (christmas discounts, 8020's were well over a grand). This was another slight improvement to consistancy since everything is set up in the exact same place and has no movment.
Soooo now..... questioning all the reviews on direct drive wheels and are they that much better? I had to see for myself lol. Budget allowed the unthinkable for me... I put the order in and had to wait almost a month. Chris Hayes youtube covers direct drive wheels quite accurately imo, check out his vids on the subject.
THE DD1, Bolting it up to the chassis I updated my driver/firmware to the latest beta (better sensor resolution for DD and some added tuning features) I quickly realised I needed the Fanalab software just to have the rev/flag lights on my F1 wheel working again. I tried the software with my v2.5 but uninstalled it straight away, it seemed to induce performance issues, a newer version and with DD wheelbase seems ok now. With the DD at 45% power it felt stronger than the v2.5 at 100% (in-game gain 70 for AC/ACC), it was quite the workout for the 2hr Kyalami race at ROOZ. A definate, but minor again, upgrade to the precision allowed for slightly better reaction and instead of catching a slide, helped to avoid them. Drivers and sofware haven't been an issue for me so far, however there is this ever so slight feeling of power going to motor when turned on but can't be felt other than sitting idle with no game going. Seems to be a fixable thing as apparently wasn't there in previous drivers. SRG youtube reviews on the DD1/DD2 are good for more info on the wheelbase, software and features, I don't have any of the flex in the wheel/shaft that SRG sees. The NLR GT-Track holds up just fine with DD1, if I grab the wheel with both hands, push up & down, the deck flexes and the wheel moves about a millimetre or two, it can't be felt while driving.
TL:DR Budget allowed upgrades over the years, calculated decisions on what to purchase as I go and not specifically chasing faster lap times with hardware. Minor improvements to the gear but moreso time in seat and focus on consistancy (still a WIP lol) has helped me get faster over the years. Just to add, I'm pretty shit at set-ups and just use Bacchulum's (thank you) with sometimes a tweak or two in AC and default aggressive (sometimes a tweak or two) in ACC. A good set-up and/or better gear can help eek out a tiny bit but imo it's not much at all.
Unleashed Drivers yootoob for the track guides https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC12wzgPqbPLW7Og8u4WER8A
Aris Drives for some long winded other stuff https://www.youtube.com/user/Aristotelis321
I've been meaning to share my thoughts on this cpu for a while since a few people have mentioned sharing during race chat. (not a brag)
First up, this upgrade from 6700k was probably not needed and is an expensive one considering the small gains to be had...but I had the itch like some others here. With the 6700k I was noticing some hitching/micro stutter in AC particularly when the leader crosses the start/finish on the first & last lap, also when people were entering discord chat during practice. I was unable to find a solution/optimisation, the cpu was already overclocked to the max and the (small I know) issues being just annoying enough to fuel my upgrade itch. I believe the 8700k has helped a lot but not totally rid the issue, doesn't happen with discord any longer, but still very occasional (much smaller and less frequent) micro stutter in ac start/finish line. So the extra cpu threads/resources have helped my system overall, particularly when running multiple background tasks eg, Sim Hub, Crew Chief, discord and what ever else windows tries to do these days. Battlefield 1 frame rate has increased by a nice margin, previously was about 90-125 fps with my settings and now at 110-150 fps, the only thing is it's not perceivable, the game ran so smooth anyways.
So if your thinking about upgrading, the price to performance is not great but the performance is there especially if your on older hardware.
These 14nm cpu's run hot so I've done the de-lid and apply liquid metal on both my cpu's but the 6700k had custom water cooling and the 8700k I have a big Cryorig R1 Universal air cooler and temps are quite nice.
My 8700k seems to be a decent one, not golden but not shite, settings;
5Ghz @ 1.3v, vcore in hwinfo reads 1.32v under light loads and 1.29v under heavy load/stress tests, so still a small amount of vdroop.
Cache is set to stock, no overclock there.
Ram is 4x 8gb 3200 @ 3466mhz with vccio @ 1.15v and vccsa (internal memory controller) 1.18v. Hwinfo shows these at 1.17 & 1.19 respectively. Also xmp profiles usually pump too much voltage into these, upwards of 1.3v unnecessarily increasing cpu temps.
All other intel turbo, speed step, power saving features are still enabled. I haven't the cpu any higher yet, very happy with where it is now.
Just sharing my results for those interested and for the guys that have the same cpu. Any questions I'll try my best to answer, I'm not a pro at this stuff just a pc/gaming enthusiast, it's my hobby I spend my hard earned on instead of beer or whatever (don't you judge me lol).
I'm also interested in the guys sharing there thoughts on the ryzen stuff since I almost converted to save a few bucks but only stuck with intel because I'm familiar with it and I knew my ram was compatible.
Not sure how long https://store.steampowered.com/app/286570/F1_2015/
some cool mod cars here https://www.facebook.com/groups/1371724106281073/?fref=nf
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