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Title: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on February 16, 2016, 11:02:08 PM
This round we are back to the 2 x 30 min races with a CPS in each race (like the first 3 rounds).
1.5 x fuel and 2 x tyres.

2 x 17 laps.

Weather: 17 Mid Clear. 19 Light Clouds.
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on February 16, 2016, 11:13:18 PM
And practice server is up. Marty, I noticed MR and stracker weren't running - is that intentional?
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: marty on February 16, 2016, 11:38:13 PM
And practice server is up. Marty, I noticed MR and stracker weren't running - is that intentional?

They should all be running but probably just minimized, so that you dont have to turn them on and off again.  ;)
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on February 16, 2016, 11:41:49 PM
And practice server is up. Marty, I noticed MR and stracker weren't running - is that intentional?

They should all be running but probably just minimized, so that you dont have to turn them on and off again.  ;)
OK, well I only restarted the server.
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Bird on February 17, 2016, 08:39:20 AM
Gents, holidays are coming up. I'll be sitting the next round out, maybe the next two (I'll be back but I'm not sure I want to jump on after a day's travelling with zero praccy). 
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on February 17, 2016, 09:54:09 AM
Gents, holidays are coming up. I'll be sitting the next round out, maybe the next two (I'll be back but I'm not sure I want to jump on after a day's travelling with zero praccy).
The answer is clear - cancel your holidays!
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Bird on February 17, 2016, 03:45:13 PM
Gents, holidays are coming up. I'll be sitting the next round out, maybe the next two (I'll be back but I'm not sure I want to jump on after a day's travelling with zero praccy).
The answer is clear - cancel your holidays!

I got a better idea: postpone the next two races! ;)
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on February 17, 2016, 05:51:01 PM
Gents, holidays are coming up. I'll be sitting the next round out, maybe the next two (I'll be back but I'm not sure I want to jump on after a day's travelling with zero praccy).
The answer is clear - cancel your holidays!

I got a better idea: postpone the next two races! ;)

Yes, postpone the next two races but bring the 3rd and 4th race forward by two weeks.
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: marty on February 17, 2016, 07:12:22 PM
Gents, holidays are coming up. I'll be sitting the next round out, maybe the next two (I'll be back but I'm not sure I want to jump on after a day's travelling with zero praccy).

You could just say you hate Monza we all know it anyway, cool story though.  ;D
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Bird on February 17, 2016, 07:31:21 PM
Gents, holidays are coming up. I'll be sitting the next round out, maybe the next two (I'll be back but I'm not sure I want to jump on after a day's travelling with zero praccy).

You could just say you hate Monza we all know it anyway, cool story though.  ;D
I swear it's a coincidence.  Even though it's true, I'm not a fan of this track :)
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: marty on February 18, 2016, 01:00:37 PM
I think Monza will be good in the Lambo, I noticed I am already 1.2 seconds faster then in the 650s yet with quite a bit lower grip in the lambo lap vs the mclaren one.

There were a few laps done in gt3 cars on this Monza OSRW layout on my pub servers so there are a few times up there already. Quite a nice change going from the slowest straight line car to the quickest so passing really shouldnt be an issue now if needed. I checked RSR and it seems the earlier builds of the lambo was silly quick but it has been brought back a little.

Its probably not the best car at the tighter circuits now but on the power ones especially Monza it should have a bit of an advantage. The scg and GTR are pretty darn quick too so should be a few cars getting some good pace at Monza.

Here is a cool video of the start of race from the Nismo GTR in the blancpain race. It has no trouble passing at Monza either.

https://youtu.be/tJmLC3sJhUw
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Freezer on February 18, 2016, 01:19:24 PM
I found the Lambo to be fast as stated but doesn't like to pull up nearly as well as say GTR or Z4 so it kind of balances out the benefit a bit...
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: marty on February 18, 2016, 03:12:50 PM
I found the Lambo to be fast as stated but doesn't like to pull up nearly as well as say GTR or Z4 so it kind of balances out the benefit a bit...

Overall the gt3 cars are all fairly close but at the power tracks the 650 especially has no hope due to being more then 10kmh down to the quicker cars. There arent many corners at Monza so you cant make up the lack of power anywhere in the lap there too easily.

If it qualifies mid pack it would also have a very tough time in traffic. I think Guybrush and Paul did very well in the lambos at a few tracks earlier on as I dont think it was the best car overall especially seeing as I got fairly close to it at Silverstone, Brands and even Mugello in the mclaren.

I think the second half of the season will favour it more then the first half did so a good effort by Guy to get a big lead in the early part of the season running it.

Here is some qoutes from from Shane Van Gisbergan last year at Monza.

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The car balance wasn’t good and there are some set-up changes going in for the second session at 4pm.
I was out first in P2 and it was good to get a chance to get a feel of the car after a change was made mid-session. I’m still finding time in the first sector.
At the end of day one after another 90 minutes of running we are in 36th place with the other team car in 24th. Our car is down 11 km/h on the 458’s top speed – 282 versus 271. It’s pretty hard to cover that gap. This is more than a set-up problem. Some work for the engineers overnight.

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I was out first in qualifying but I only had the first set of tyres while both Rob and Kevin ran a new set each. I ended up with a 1:51.51s in 29th place.
Next out was Rob in Q2 and on our second set of tyres for the weekend, he was in ninth with a 48.82s lap. Kevin then did a 48.37s in Q3 so we ended up starting 28th.

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The winning Huracan (which was later disqualified for a fuel filler irregularity) had a top speed in the race of 286 against our 275. That’s a pretty big gap to try and make up. The Lambos, Nissans, 458s, R8s, SLS and 997s were all faster than the McLarens.
I’ll talk to Andrew (Kirkaldy, McLaren GT director) about some possible testing before Silverstone on May 24th. Hopefully there can be some developments to put in the car for that.
It was a bit frustrating that the car wasn’t as fast as I thought it would be, or I think they thought, but it’s definitely going to be a lot of fun.

http://www.speedcafe.com/2015/04/14/diary-shane-van-gisbergens-italian-adventure/

Shows the top speeds and laptimes overall are a fair way down in AC for all cars. They dont run softs in the Blancpain series but those times arent possible in AC anyway. Top speeds for the gt3 cars are down by a bit too as fastest Ive got the Huracan on softs is 279 where in the real race they were getting to 285. Though this could be draft assisted. The 650s was doing 275kmh but in AC at Monza it struggles to get to 266kmh.

Laptimes are a fair way off as optimum possibly high 1:48 is doable in current build with Huracan and this would have been slower then the 650 did in qualy for 28th on the medium compound.
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Matthew111 on February 20, 2016, 11:21:21 AM
Still a lot of work to be done on the gt3 bop, they arnt that close to each other a few secs seperates the cars which isnt right and the top speeds are off too, they always mess with it but it seems like they make it worse lol the lambo and audi are in another class imo.
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: marty on February 20, 2016, 01:42:17 PM
After running some practice races with a couple GTR's and Phil in his SCG last night there isnt that much between these 3. Top speeds are all pretty close and seems laptimes not so far off either. One good thing is the Lambo can at least have some hope of passing the others but if they dont make a mistake its still quite a challenge here.

I havent seen an audi on the prac server yet but think they may have a tougher time of it being a little down on speed here. All the others should be fairly close with anyone in the 650 pretty much having a bye this round due to its lack of speed.  :-[

Racing will be pretty close and people should try get some practice in traffic here which I think is more important then actual solo lap pace.
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Rolz on February 22, 2016, 01:32:56 PM
GB any chance you could share ur setup?

It's probably (all) my driving that's keeping me slow, but I'd love to know if there is anything I've missed on the setup...

If u say it's stock I will cry  :P
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Simone on February 22, 2016, 01:33:43 PM
Sorry guys...wheres the stracker?   heheehhee
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Rolz on February 22, 2016, 01:35:56 PM
Sorry guys...wheres the stracker?   heheehhee

http://52.62.71.102:50041/lapstat

I've finally saved it :P
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on February 22, 2016, 02:56:41 PM
I put my setup in Stracker Rolz, although I made a couple of changes last night but will upload again tonight if i remember.

Look at how close it might be between the Lambo's and Phil's SCG003.  Nice.  I don't think I'll be able to mix it at the front but look forward to some action back in the pack a bit :)  The little Audi was losing about 3 to 4 tenths to the Lambo on the main straight alone, but takes the longer corners better.  Should make for a great race.
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Rolz on February 22, 2016, 03:03:21 PM
I put my setup in Stracker Rolz, although I made a couple of changes last night but will upload again tonight if i remember.

Cool thanks heaps  ;D
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on February 22, 2016, 03:15:11 PM
The times look close. It should be entertaining.

All we have to do is survive the turn 1 slowdown on the opening lap.
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: marty on February 22, 2016, 05:06:41 PM
Should be some close times and racing, lets just hope people take some care and have some patience trying to pass others.  ;)

Sorry guys...wheres the stracker?   heheehhee

http://52.62.71.102:50041/lapstat

I've finally saved it :P

Better to save this link as it will always show the current prac server combo once someone has done a lap.

http://52.62.71.102:50041/lapstat?currservers=acserver

Here is the server with medium tyres and Valid laps only

http://52.62.71.102:50041/lapstat?track=monza-monza_osrw&cars=ks_audi_r8_lms,bmw_z4_gt3,ks_lamborghini_huracan_gt3,ks_mclaren_650_gt3,mclaren_mp412c_gt3,mercedes_sls_gt3,ks_mercedes_amg_gt3,ks_nissan_gtr_gt3,ks_glickenhaus_scg003&valid=1&date_from=&date_to=&tyres=%28M%29&currservers=acserver

The Lambo has some clear pace advantage over the Audi in the straights, gives up a little in corners but overall it does have a slight advantage. Guybrush is getting quite a bit out of that Audi and we ran just the one race but even in the quicker car I couldnt find a way past, there were chances I just didnt make any stick but at least there is some hope in the Lambo of getting past any other car. Its still not easy but doable, I tried the 650s and its 3 seconds per lap down here to the Lambo so guys in that your going to have a tough time here sorry.  :'(
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Rolz on February 22, 2016, 09:47:08 PM
Thanks for the setup GB - certainly helped  :)

As tomorrow night - just way off the pace - I have a love hate relationship with this track

Still, looking forward to some racing
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on February 22, 2016, 10:06:34 PM
I put a further refined setup on stracker Rolz.

Also, I found TC on level 8 or 9 to be best.
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Rolz on February 22, 2016, 10:08:02 PM
I put a further refined setup on stracker Rolz.

Also, I found TC on level 8 or 9 to be best.

Cool - thnx mate - will check it out tomorrow  ;D
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: christopheraser on February 22, 2016, 10:44:13 PM
I put a further refined setup on stracker Rolz.

Also, I found TC on level 8 or 9 to be best.

Cool - thnx mate - will check it out tomorrow  ;D

How do you get the setups off s-tracker?

I have seen you guys mention it a number of times. I have the p-tracker plugin, what else do I need? Do you get them when you're on the server?
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: marty on February 22, 2016, 10:54:35 PM
I put a further refined setup on stracker Rolz.

Also, I found TC on level 8 or 9 to be best.

Cool - thnx mate - will check it out tomorrow  ;D

How do you get the setups off s-tracker?

I have seen you guys mention it a number of times. I have the p-tracker plugin, what else do I need? Do you get them when you're on the server?

When your in the server and in car not in the pit menu, double click the ptracker app. This will bring up the larger window with server timing/config/setups etc. Go to the setups tab and bere if someone has left a setup for your car you can get it from the list.

Once you have clicked the setup it will appear in your car setup folder but you may need to click on another track folder then go back to the current track for it to show up.

In order to send a setup press the publish button and you can send to an individual in the server or to one of the groups setup on the server. In order to publish setups you may need to dowload the latest microsoft c++ vrc 64bit redist package. But to receive a setup you shouldnt need this.

Once your done inside the larger ptracker window click the ac logo to minimize this and it will just leave the smaller ptracker window.
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on February 23, 2016, 07:11:39 AM
Good instructions Marty.
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Bruce on February 23, 2016, 10:53:49 AM
If anyone running the Merc SLS GT3 could provide a setup it would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: christopheraser on February 23, 2016, 10:59:41 AM
I put a further refined setup on stracker Rolz.

Also, I found TC on level 8 or 9 to be best.

Cool - thnx mate - will check it out tomorrow  ;D

How do you get the setups off s-tracker?

I have seen you guys mention it a number of times. I have the p-tracker plugin, what else do I need? Do you get them when you're on the server?

When your in the server and in car not in the pit menu, double click the ptracker app. This will bring up the larger window with server timing/config/setups etc. Go to the setups tab and bere if someone has left a setup for your car you can get it from the list.

Once you have clicked the setup it will appear in your car setup folder but you may need to click on another track folder then go back to the current track for it to show up.

In order to send a setup press the publish button and you can send to an individual in the server or to one of the groups setup on the server. In order to publish setups you may need to dowload the latest microsoft c++ vrc 64bit redist package. But to receive a setup you shouldnt need this.

Once your done inside the larger ptracker window click the ac logo to minimize this and it will just leave the smaller ptracker window.

Thanks  :)
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on February 23, 2016, 11:53:13 AM
Are we able to put the stracker link at the start of each pre-race thread so those of us who are often using different devices that don't have it bookmarked can access it?
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: rob on February 23, 2016, 11:56:59 AM
If anyone running the Merc SLS GT3 could provide a setup it would be greatly appreciated.

Hey Bruce, if you are after a SLOW setup I have a couple you can try.

I can't seem use other people's setups and I know that no-one likes mine, but I have managed to make a half decent setup and then "improved" it until its useless. You are welcome to try them.



Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on February 23, 2016, 12:48:03 PM
Are we able to put the stracker link at the start of each pre-race thread so those of us who are often using different devices that don't have it bookmarked can access it?
What about just a sticky thread?
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on February 23, 2016, 01:08:54 PM
Are we able to put the stracker link at the start of each pre-race thread so those of us who are often using different devices that don't have it bookmarked can access it?
What about just a sticky thread?

Yep, that would work also.
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Bruce on February 23, 2016, 01:48:19 PM
If anyone running the Merc SLS GT3 could provide a setup it would be greatly appreciated.

Hey Bruce, if you are after a SLOW setup I have a couple you can try.

I can't seem use other people's setups and I know that no-one likes mine, but I have managed to make a half decent setup and then "improved" it until its useless. You are welcome to try them.
1
that is my kinda "speed" setup I may need.
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: marty on February 23, 2016, 04:26:04 PM
Are we able to put the stracker link at the start of each pre-race thread so those of us who are often using different devices that don't have it bookmarked can access it?
What about just a sticky thread?

This thread should do just the link in first post needs to be updated to this link below I added to that sticky thread ages ago.  ;)

http://52.62.71.102:50041/lapstat?currservers=acserver
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: StanDaam on February 23, 2016, 06:05:30 PM
Me sad...  :-\
Monza, one of my favourite tracks, in the mighty GT3's, one of my favourite classes... My interwebs busted about 8 oclock last night. Just got off phone to iinet (helpful chap at least!!), Belrose exchange is down till about 8am tomorrow morning... Booo!!! Can't bring myself to race under 4G, might go drown my sorrows... enjoy the mighty Monza!!! (did I mention I've been there...)  :-X
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Rolz on February 23, 2016, 06:12:16 PM
Ahh bummer Stan!  :'(
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on February 23, 2016, 06:21:45 PM
Me sad...  :-\
Monza, one of my favourite tracks, in the mighty GT3's, one of my favourite classes... My interwebs busted about 8 oclock last night. Just got off phone to iinet (helpful chap at least!!), Belrose exchange is down till about 8am tomorrow morning... Booo!!! Can't bring myself to race under 4G, might go drown my sorrows... enjoy the mighty Monza!!! (did I mention I've been there...)  :-X
Ah, curses Stan!
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on February 23, 2016, 06:28:20 PM
Are we able to put the stracker link at the start of each pre-race thread so those of us who are often using different devices that don't have it bookmarked can access it?
What about just a sticky thread?

This thread should do just the link in first post needs to be updated to this link below I added to that sticky thread ages ago.  ;)

http://52.62.71.102:50041/lapstat?currservers=acserver (http://52.62.71.102:50041/lapstat?currservers=acserver)

I updated the link in this sticky: http://xgn.com.au/index.php?topic=837.msg13387#msg13387
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: marty on February 23, 2016, 07:23:29 PM
Me sad...  :-\
Monza, one of my favourite tracks, in the mighty GT3's, one of my favourite classes... My interwebs busted about 8 oclock last night. Just got off phone to iinet (helpful chap at least!!), Belrose exchange is down till about 8am tomorrow morning... Booo!!! Can't bring myself to race under 4G, might go drown my sorrows... enjoy the mighty Monza!!! (did I mention I've been there...)  :-X

Have you tried running at 4g I dont think you will have issues if you have a strong signal at least.
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: StanDaam on February 25, 2016, 09:09:23 AM
Still no freakin interwebs!!!
Each night on the phone to iinet for an hour is really starting to grind my gears.
Last night's quote from the help desk:
"How many people is this affecting?"
"Most of iinet in NSW have this issue"

(http://images.memes.com/meme/tile/191061)
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Wally on February 25, 2016, 09:19:30 AM
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Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: Gratulin on February 25, 2016, 01:46:14 PM
Sounds reasonable to me. How can you order food without internet!!!
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: StanDaam on February 25, 2016, 02:39:13 PM
Me starvings!!  ;D
 
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: marty on February 25, 2016, 02:46:12 PM
Me starvings!!  ;D

If you figured out how to get on the internets outside of your iinet nodsl then maybe you can do other things.

There is also the old school way of using a real car drive to the shops and get some food. Or you can even go more old school and beat a kangaroo over the head with a big stick drag it home and cook it over a campfire.
Title: Re: S10R5: Monza Pre-Race Chat
Post by: StanDaam on February 25, 2016, 04:03:09 PM
Me get big stick!!
Hey, you guys got the opposable thumbs, I hear they good for tearing Kangaroo apart.
Work out this fire thing later!!
 :P