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Title: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Wally on August 21, 2016, 04:10:16 PM
Here's a place to show your interest in future Tuesday night series. Not necessarily the very next season, but some time in the future, as we rotate through "classes" like road cars, GT, open wheelers, track day cars, hypercars etc.

This is not the "Next Season" poll. This is ideas for future seasons.

When the time comes for a new season, I'll choose from a selection of these options to put up a poll for the upcoming season, keeping in mind that I won't do the same style of cars two seasons in a row.

If you want to add any more suggestions, post them here. This takes over from the old "bucket list" thread (http://xgn.com.au/index.php?topic=1088.0).
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: marty on August 21, 2016, 04:52:50 PM
Only up to 8 I tried to select 9 but there werent enough options lol.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Wally on August 21, 2016, 05:58:46 PM
Only up to 8 I tried to select 9 but there werent enough options lol.
Don't blame me, that's just automatic poll text :)
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Wally on August 21, 2016, 09:39:18 PM
Lamborghini Huracan Super Trofeo race (at 17:00 mins)

https://youtu.be/tr9HgbVW75c?t=17m

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tr9HgbVW75c&t=17m0s

Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Phil.8 on August 21, 2016, 09:50:11 PM
cool
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Freezer on August 22, 2016, 04:37:53 PM
Multi class longer races sound good and would be a change.  Short enough track to encourage lapping etc like the Grand Am Rolex series.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Matthew111 on August 22, 2016, 05:27:47 PM
im stuck between gt2 the gt4 and the f138 lol
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Wally on August 22, 2016, 06:24:48 PM
Multi class longer races sound good and would be a change.  Short enough track to encourage lapping etc like the Grand Am Rolex series.

Yep, it would only really work with lapping. You'd need a mix of suitably slow and fast cars on a shortish track.

P.S. don't forget you can add whatever suggestions you think would work to the poll. There are a LOT of possibilities in AC these days.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Wally on August 22, 2016, 06:37:54 PM
I added a road car option - BMW vs Alfa (close in times).

I'm not sure how easy it is to change/add your vote. If someone could let me know.

You might have to remove your votes and re-add them.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: marty on August 22, 2016, 07:38:50 PM
Road car option I think maybe in another season Id rather not have 2 similar ones in a row. We also had a similar season early on with beamers lotuses.

There are quite a few road cars now and once the Porsche cars come in I think there will be a few that should match up fairly well to have a good mixed car grid.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Wally on August 22, 2016, 07:54:11 PM
Road car option I think maybe in another season Id rather not have 2 similar ones in a row. We also had a similar season early on with beamers lotuses.

There are quite a few road cars now and once the Porsche cars come in I think there will be a few that should match up fairly well to have a good mixed car grid.

Don't forget this isn't for the next season, this is just a collection of ideas for any season some time in the future.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: marty on August 22, 2016, 08:02:44 PM
Id race anything so my vote probably doesnt matter, one thing we havent done ever though is something like the abarth assetto corsa. Its a fun little grippy fwd single car class and can have very good racing.

https://youtu.be/3rQLqWPWqz0
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Wally on August 22, 2016, 08:24:30 PM
Id race anything so my vote probably doesnt matter, one thing we havent done ever though is something like the abarth assetto corsa. Its a fun little grippy fwd single car class and can have very good racing.

https://youtu.be/3rQLqWPWqz0
Added.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: grat on August 22, 2016, 08:51:36 PM
Id race anything so my vote probably doesnt matter, one thing we havent done ever though is something like the abarth assetto corsa. Its a fun little grippy fwd single car class and can have very good racing.

https://youtu.be/3rQLqWPWqz0
If I can flip it, I am in!
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on August 22, 2016, 10:37:08 PM
I actually think the MX5's could be good fun.

I never vote for the GT cars as that's all everyone seems to drive on the pub servers these days.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: marty on August 22, 2016, 10:53:34 PM
I actually think the MX5's could be good fun.

I never vote for the GT cars as that's all everyone seems to drive on the pub servers these days.

Funny I hardly ever drove the gt cars so wouldnt mind them for a change.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: grat on August 23, 2016, 06:53:48 AM
I never vote for the GT cars as that's all everyone seems to drive on the pub servers these days.
Maybe it's true in general, and that's why everybody says this on every forum. But as far as our community goes, it seems just a cliché to me: I have not raced a GT car since our GT season...
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Wally on August 23, 2016, 07:52:21 AM
I never race on pub servers!  But that's why we all get a vote.

Has anyone tried changing their vote,  or adding to their vote? I'm not sure how easy it is. I intend this to be a "living poll", with options added over time and new votes.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Mael on August 23, 2016, 10:22:14 AM
Very tempted to vote for the open wheeler F138 but suspect we have some drivers still recovering from the previous season  ;D
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: marty on August 23, 2016, 10:37:08 AM
Has anyone tried changing their vote,  or adding to their vote? I'm not sure how easy it is. I intend this to be a "living poll", with options added over time and new votes.

Just tried to add the one I didnt vote for and no issues.  ;)
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: marty on August 23, 2016, 10:41:58 AM
I never vote for the GT cars as that's all everyone seems to drive on the pub servers these days.
Maybe it's true in general, and that's why everybody says this on every forum. But as far as our community goes, it seems just a cliché to me: I have not raced a GT car since our GT season...

I even put up a gt server at times but hardly anyone drives them, I did my first 2 laps in the 488 gt3 yesterday which killed the dodo. Got it breathing again this morning but tests using the optus 4g connection were surprisingly ok and not much worse then the adsl2+ connection.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Rolz on August 23, 2016, 10:54:35 AM
The engine sound of the Maserati GranTurismo MC GT4 sure is awesome  ;D

With no ABS or TC it's also a good test
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: marty on August 23, 2016, 10:57:33 AM
The Masserati is a good car I ran some laps with the ROOZ guys in that at Albert park. The track version was horrible lol but the car were fun and more of a challenge then a regular full blown aids gentlemen drivers special.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Wally on August 23, 2016, 11:38:58 AM
Yeah, the Maserati is great fun.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on August 23, 2016, 06:50:45 PM
I never vote for the GT cars as that's all everyone seems to drive on the pub servers these days.
Maybe it's true in general, and that's why everybody says this on every forum. But as far as our community goes, it seems just a cliché to me: I have not raced a GT car since our GT season...

We have raced 3 GT seasons already... Maybe I just notice them more because to me they seem pretty boring to drive, but there are other car types I feel like we haven't touched yet.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: grat on August 23, 2016, 10:20:26 PM
I never vote for the GT cars as that's all everyone seems to drive on the pub servers these days.
Maybe it's true in general, and that's why everybody says this on every forum. But as far as our community goes, it seems just a cliché to me: I have not raced a GT car since our GT season...

We have raced 3 GT seasons already... Maybe I just notice them more because to me they seem pretty boring to drive, but there are other car types I feel like we haven't touched yet.
No disagreement about that. I was only thinking about the fact that I often here "all public servers are on GT3" and noticing "we" actually do not race them very often. But I agree there are other options that would feel... fresher for our league.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: marty on August 23, 2016, 10:39:53 PM
I dont really care what we drive, in terms of actual enjoyment driving I think the lotus 72D was the best for me. Sadly this was also the lowest turn out by the end of the season as it seems many dont like the more challenging cars. The f138 season would be great too in terms of driving, for racing I dont know but it would be interesting if nothing else.

Close racing in the slower cars like this season or some single spec race cars is always fun, in the end the poll is good to see what the majority want to race and get an idea of what sort of cars will get a good turnout. I see some leagues in Eurpope drive nothing but GT3 and it seems also many people that have AC are like this. To me changing things up and racing anything is good, there is so much good content around and more to come sticking to one basic fairly boring to drive class seems like a waste.

Still the odd GT season is never a bad thing, but as Guybrush said there is so much we havent really raced that probably best not to go too close to the stuff we have already raced. Having said that cars like the masserati are actually quite fun to drive and even gt cars if you turn off the aids.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Wally on August 24, 2016, 12:07:48 AM
Bear in mind that we have lots of members here, who all like a different range of things. I'll always mix it up, neither avoiding anything completely nor having too much of any one thing. Something for everyone!
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Wally on August 27, 2016, 11:33:55 PM
Added Audi S1 road car option.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Mael on August 28, 2016, 01:24:37 AM
 Both the new Ferrari 488 GTB and  Praga R1 would be good. The Ferrari is tricky while the Praga would give good close racing  ;D
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Matthew111 on August 28, 2016, 06:00:30 PM
I went gt2 as I love the gt series in real life and game lol. Did a few laps and noticed the chev easily quickest followed by Ferrari then bmw 1.5 off the chev at imola. Wouldn't mind a one make gt4 Maserati series though that car is good fun to drive.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Wally on August 28, 2016, 06:54:34 PM
Both the new Ferrari 488 GTB and  Praga R1 would be good. The Ferrari is tricky while the Praga would give good close racing  ;D
I added 488 and Praga options. The 488 is exciting, but I find the Praga a little predictable and boring.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: marty on September 04, 2016, 12:10:47 AM
I have the prag up on a server at Silverstone, real nice there and fun to race. Its a bit challenging not silly quick but also can race close. Id suggest people give it a run there especially if a few others are in that server.

For a single make car I cant think of one thats more fun to drive then that.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on September 12, 2016, 05:00:18 PM
Ideas:

For a mid-season fun run, or in-between seasons, have a "random combo night" where 7:30 on the night of the race Wally randomly selects a car and track from the AC content and we all go in "blind" and have to learn the track and car in an hour, qual and race.  It would reduce the impact of some people having the opportunity of practicing for hours vs others with a lot of activities which means they can't prac before hand.

Another idea is a fixed setup season in something like the MX 5 cup car.  I think again this would help those that haven't got time/knowledge to be tinkering with setups for hours vs just some good old fashion flat out racing.  All you'd have to do is get a fairly stable setup that everyone could drive and you are done for the season.

Oh, and we talked about this previously but I'd still love to do an endurance race with driver swaps.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: marty on September 12, 2016, 06:34:26 PM
Regarding setups this mostly comes down to the car choice. I dont see the point of picking say a gt or f1 car and then running fixed setups. Something like the mx5 cup, abarth assetto corsa, porsche carrera cup m235i etc with fixed setups would work. Most series like this are factory prepared race cars with little to no adjustments allowed by the drivers.

In the street cars it really makes no difference as setups are so limited and the few basoc options lie rear camber and toe angles make little difference and are easy to understand for anyone even vaguely interested in racing.

As GT is quite popular in the vote to me this means people want the actual advantage of a proper race car and that is you can tune it to get the most put of it.

Also pretty much all the racey seasons we have had many have gladly shared setups. So this means people can try another setup if to base theirs off but gt and open wheel a setup can easily be worth 2 to 5 seconds on a particular track. So if people dont want that why do they want to race such types of cars.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Bacchulum on September 12, 2016, 06:37:14 PM
As GT is quite popular in the vote to me this means people want the actual advantage of a proper race car ....
Race cars don't have doors or roofs. ;)
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Wally on September 12, 2016, 06:46:55 PM
I'm generally not a real big fan of fixed setups. I agree with Marty in that it depends on the car. In GTs, I definitely wouldn't go fixed setup.

I like the idea of a "pot luck" fun run. You could be faced with a random car and track, going straight into race with a fixed setup with just appropriate gearing and fuel. It would be a test of who can adapt to the combo the quickest. I'd avoid any stupid combos of course,  like the old Abarth 500 at the Nordschleife.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: marty on September 12, 2016, 07:38:01 PM
The old abarth 500 would be more fun at Nords then many other tracks. Nords has way more corners then most tracks and its actually quite fun to drive in slow cars. I dont understand the must be fast cars on big tracks and must be slow cars on short cuts view of many.

Throwing cars into tracks that dont really suit them is more of a challenge in a fast car on a small track. But then a slow car on a big track can make for some fun draft racing. Just picking typical combos I think is a bit of the easy way out.

They race abarths at Monza, DTM at Brands Indy everything except very quick cars at Nords.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Wally on September 12, 2016, 07:47:11 PM
It was the 12 minute lap time that I was thinking of! I meant the Abarth 595.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Freezer on September 12, 2016, 10:15:05 PM
Another one for the list - 2014 Tudor Sports Car Championship mod

http://www.virtualr.net/ier-uscc-car-pack-assetto-corsa-now-available (http://www.virtualr.net/ier-uscc-car-pack-assetto-corsa-now-available)
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: marty on September 12, 2016, 11:20:27 PM
It was the 12 minute lap time that I was thinking of! I meant the Abarth 595.

Dont think of it in laptimes as that really makes little difference you just do less laps there. WTCC do only 3 or is it 4 lap races at the full Nerds on the 24hr race weekend. 12 laps at Nords I enjoy more then 12 minutes anywhere else. The slowest Abart really wouldn't be much fun on most tracks but would likely be a bit of fun on a full circuit then a short one as it would just be a draft fest in slow motion.

I remember the old Robin races drafting each other at 60kmh, funny stuff that. If the draft is big enough the leader will really struggle to pull a gap. I wonder how some slow cars at Full monza would go for a fun run, that track still catches so many people out in its 3 brake zones however which is rather surprising.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Wally on September 13, 2016, 07:46:32 AM
Another one for the list - 2014 Tudor Sports Car Championship mod

http://www.virtualr.net/ier-uscc-car-pack-assetto-corsa-now-available (http://www.virtualr.net/ier-uscc-car-pack-assetto-corsa-now-available)
Would be fun to try.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Freezer on September 13, 2016, 01:57:32 PM
Another one for the list - 2014 Tudor Sports Car Championship mod

http://www.virtualr.net/ier-uscc-car-pack-assetto-corsa-now-available (http://www.virtualr.net/ier-uscc-car-pack-assetto-corsa-now-available)
Would be fun to try.
Installed it last night and had a quick run at Misano and it felt/sounded pretty good.  Just 3 cars at the moment (two types).
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Simone on September 18, 2016, 08:11:29 AM
just voted single make with the Maserati   :-*
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: AJ on September 18, 2016, 09:06:26 AM
Ideas:

For a mid-season fun run, or in-between seasons, have a "random combo night" where 7:30 on the night of the race Wally randomly selects a car and track from the AC content and we all go in "blind" and have to learn the track and car in an hour, qual and race.  It would reduce the impact of some people having the opportunity of practicing for hours vs others with a lot of activities which means they can't prac before hand.

I have a LAN at my house every few months with a bunch of guys and at the last one we started a championship based on this premise - we randomly pick a car and track just before each race, do 10 minute quali and 7 lap race regardless of track length (but we include a fair few mod tracks in our list, so this could be anything from a tiny little club track to something like Isle of Man. Works out pretty fun and a fairly even way of doing things :)
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Wally on September 18, 2016, 12:05:05 PM
Ideas:

For a mid-season fun run, or in-between seasons, have a "random combo night" where 7:30 on the night of the race Wally randomly selects a car and track from the AC content and we all go in "blind" and have to learn the track and car in an hour, qual and race.  It would reduce the impact of some people having the opportunity of practicing for hours vs others with a lot of activities which means they can't prac before hand.
I have a LAN at my house every few months with a bunch of guys and at the last one we started a championship based on this premise - we randomly pick a car and track just before each race, do 10 minute quali and 7 lap race regardless of track length (but we include a fair few mod tracks in our list, so this could be anything from a tiny little club track to something like Isle of Man. Works out pretty fun and a fairly even way of doing things :)
I am planning something like this for a fun run on Sep 27, after the Jap Pack season ends. I'll write up more closer to the time.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on September 18, 2016, 01:29:56 PM
That 488 GTB is a hell of a lot of fun.  Make sure to turn TC off.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Simone on September 18, 2016, 01:43:11 PM
That 488 GTB is a hell of a lot of fun.  Make sure to turn TC off.

i will try it
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Simone on September 18, 2016, 08:18:30 PM
That 488 GTB is a hell of a lot of fun.  Make sure to turn TC off.

Hey guy i searched and searched fot the 488 GTB  in AC but i cant find it,,,where the bloody is???  thx mate
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on September 18, 2016, 09:52:54 PM
That 488 GTB is a hell of a lot of fun.  Make sure to turn TC off.

Hey guy i searched and searched fot the 488 GTB  in AC but i cant find it,,,where the bloody is???  thx mate

From memory it was part of one of the latest updates/dream packs.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Simone on September 18, 2016, 10:31:55 PM
That 488 GTB is a hell of a lot of fun.  Make sure to turn TC off.

Hey guy i searched and searched fot the 488 GTB  in AC but i cant find it,,,where the bloody is???  thx mate

From memory it was part of one of the latest updates/dream packs.


.......downloading......
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: marty on September 19, 2016, 08:10:40 AM
That 488 GTB is a hell of a lot of fun.  Make sure to turn TC off.

Hey guy i searched and searched fot the 488 GTB  in AC but i cant find it,,,where the bloody is???  thx mate

From memory it was part of one of the latest updates/dream packs.

That would have been the red pack.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Bacchulum on October 27, 2016, 02:45:29 PM
Can-Am series.



Yeah, a Can-Am series. 8)
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: doobs on October 27, 2016, 03:19:23 PM
Can-Am series.



Yeah, a Can-Am series. 8)
8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Wally on October 27, 2016, 04:21:46 PM
In general, I'd like to stick to original AC cars, for "genuine" physics. There are plenty to choose from!
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Mael on October 27, 2016, 04:57:22 PM
Porsche 917 !!!!!!
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: grat on October 27, 2016, 05:15:41 PM
I don't know which number-letters-combination it is, but that racing 911-shaped thingy from the 70s is a joy to drive and seems good for close racing, albeit a tad slow perhaps. Maybe we should consider it for a between season fun night or stuff like that.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Bacchulum on October 27, 2016, 05:57:33 PM
In general, I'd like to stick to original AC cars, for "genuine" physics. There are plenty to choose from!
Porsche 917/30 is a Can-Am car Wally. ;)
I just wish we had a McLaren M8B to go with it.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: keithsgillan on October 27, 2016, 08:23:45 PM
Yet to take one for a spin but maybe one of the Porsche cars in the new DLC...
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Wally on October 28, 2016, 07:40:03 AM
Gotcha - I didn't recognise can-am! I haven't tried all the Porsche yet either. The 911 RSR might make good racing. The Carrera and 918 are fun to fang around in with the TC off, but not necessarily for racing.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Wally on October 28, 2016, 12:36:25 PM
I added an option for the 911 RSR.

To change your vote, you have to remove your vote, and then re-vote for everything you like, which isn't a bad thing as it refreshes your current opinion.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Shameless_1 on October 28, 2016, 08:53:58 PM
Can you add the Porsche Cayman GT4 in? I think they'd make an awesome car for a season
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Wally on October 28, 2016, 11:25:02 PM
Can you add the Porsche Cayman GT4 in? I think they'd make an awesome car for a season
Done!
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: AJ on October 29, 2016, 12:53:11 AM
Nice enough car but it really isn't much different to the one we're driving now...
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Wally on October 29, 2016, 08:17:24 AM
Nice enough car but it really isn't much different to the one we're driving now...
That's true, but bear in mind that this isn't a poll for the next season, it's just a general poll to gauge what people wouldn't mind racing at some point in the future.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Shameless_1 on October 29, 2016, 03:52:27 PM
I wonder how it would go against the maserati gt4..   but I do find the cayman gt4 quite different..

I'd like to see a season with the cobra vs the bmw me e92 and the lotus evora s ( i think it was step1)
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Bacchulum on October 29, 2016, 04:17:28 PM
Hhhmmm :-\
Still don't see the Can-Am option (or any '70s option for that matter) ???
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Gratulin on October 29, 2016, 04:32:19 PM
Hhhmmm :-\
Still don't see the Can-Am option (or any '70s option for that matter) ???
911 RSR - 1972. Not mid-engined, so doesn't count for you?
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Bacchulum on October 29, 2016, 05:10:06 PM
Hhhmmm :-\
Still don't see the Can-Am option (or any '70s option for that matter) ???
911 RSR - 1972. Not mid-engined, so doesn't count for you?
Not mid-engined so didn't have a clue what era it was. :P :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Wally on October 29, 2016, 05:39:33 PM
Hhhmmm :-\
Still don't see the Can-Am option (or any '70s option for that matter) ???
Added!
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: GzeroD on October 29, 2016, 05:53:27 PM
When the Porsche 962 comes out we will have three Group C cars.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Bacchulum on October 29, 2016, 06:39:28 PM
Hhhmmm :-\
Still don't see the Can-Am option (or any '70s option for that matter) ???
Added!
C'mon everyone who likes "fast-as-shit-but-don't-stop-or-turn" cars, vote now!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: marty on October 29, 2016, 07:14:49 PM
Hhhmmm :-\
Still don't see the Can-Am option (or any '70s option for that matter) ???
Added!

Maybe we should just add the full car list and see how it goes, the thing is there are so many good official cars out now that anything will be fun.

Id like some form of mixed class racing and for the can am we could do that along with the 911RSR. Or possibly Moby Dick which is a similar type boat but a bit closer in performance to the 917. There is still the Sauber c9, coming 787B, Porsche 919 red pack f1 cars so much to chose from that in the end I think youd be better voting for a type of car then specific cars.

Once the vote for the type of car is decided then you could vote specific cars. For example have classes, Modern road, Historic Road, Modern GT, Historic GT, Modern OW, Historic OW but even there you could probably come up with 20 options. So in the end it will come down to the executive Wally vote and we race whatever was close in polls and picked by our friendly dictator. :)
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Wally on October 29, 2016, 07:24:11 PM
I'll always rotate broadly through the "types" of cars, such as single-seaters, road cars, GT cars, track day cars etc etc. Then within each type, I'll put up polls with a few of the popular options.

We're a real mixed bag league - i.e. we don't just always race GT3 cars or single seaters. Variety is the spice of life :)
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Wally on October 30, 2016, 01:42:03 PM
One season, I'd like to try the idea of each driver nominating a round that they will get double points in, at the start of the season. You might choose a track you do well at, or a round when you know others are going to be away. Your "power play" round wouldn't be wasted if you missed that round for some reason - you'd be able to nominate another round. That would put pressure on you to do well in your nominated round, with double points at stake.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on October 30, 2016, 04:16:16 PM
I like that idea Wally.  Or you could do an F1 and have the final round as double points to keep things interesting right to the end.  Although it probably only matters if there are larger points gaps between positions.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: marty on October 30, 2016, 05:37:06 PM
I like that idea Wally.  Or you could do an F1 and have the final round as double points to keep things interesting right to the end.  Although it probably only matters if there are larger points gaps between positions.

It doesnt really matter what the points gap is, you win every race you start. Make the gaps bigger and it just means nobody will be close enough that it would make a difference.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Wally on October 30, 2016, 05:40:40 PM
Yeah, I'm not really a big fan of increasing points for higher positions. It just makes the leaders even harder to catch in the points. I suppose the thinking is that it provides an incentive to push for one more position, but everyone's going to try to do that anyway. I prefer the scoring with just 1 pt between each position.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: grat on October 30, 2016, 06:07:04 PM
personally I like the points like in this season. You can "fight to be in the points" and fighting for 2nd or 3rd becomes very meaningful for the championship, which is cool.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Shameless_1 on November 11, 2016, 05:10:00 PM
How about  GT2 and GT3 cars together in a season but limit the numbers available for each category. And have placings overall plus per category with a mixture of tight circuits, endurance rounds, Nords, and GP tracks.  With customs skins perhaps.

Each persons picks their category to compete in with a backup car in the 2nd category.  The top 5 in each race have to switch to their backup car. Maybe the last 5 places if in GT2 switch to GT3.  And you could still throw in reverse grids for the tighter tracks where the GT3 cars couldnt pull a big lead on GT2.  Would this help in bringing the racing closer?

Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: marty on November 11, 2016, 09:18:05 PM
Gt2 should be quicker then gt3 at most tracks but there isnt really that much in it. I dont think its withh running them together a future mixed class season would be good with gt2/e cars and Prototypes once we get some modern ones. I think there will be Porsche 919 and recent toyota.

There is also the option for historic gt and prototype series but its classes where a few cars will be coming in the future.

If enough entered you could even run 3 classes such as Prototype, Gt2/e and gt4. With each class having its own individual championships. The classes could be set by choice or by past season average finishes per driver. Only have a certain amount of cars in each class and so the top 8-10 in prototypes, next 8-10 gt2/e and the rest in gt4.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Bacchulum on November 11, 2016, 09:28:21 PM
Or Can-Am.......





 8)
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Shameless_1 on November 11, 2016, 09:48:42 PM
I did some testing on Vallelunga Classic and my GT2 car was faster than toms GT3 by 200ths of a second.  He was holding me up.. So yeah on a tight circuit the gt2 is supreme, on long circuits like Spa the gt2 doesn't have the top speed, only the cornering ease over a gt3.

I like the gt2 cars and on tight circuits they could provide some really close racing, gutzy passing.

But if im not mistaken there is only the 2 gt2 cars. the m3 and the 458.. I'm really itching for a race with more than 1-2 makes. The videos are more interesting not only to watch but to make as well.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: marty on November 11, 2016, 10:04:54 PM
I did some testing on Vallelunga Classic and my GT2 car was faster than toms GT3 by 200ths of a second.  He was holding me up.. So yeah on a tight circuit the gt2 is supreme, on long circuits like Spa the gt2 doesn't have the top speed, only the cornering ease over a gt3.

I like the gt2 cars and on tight circuits they could provide some really close racing, gutzy passing.

But if im not mistaken there is only the 2 gt2 cars. the m3 and the 458.. I'm really itching for a race with more than 1-2 makes. The videos are more interesting not only to watch but to make as well.

GTE is current the evolution of gt2 spec and we did lots of testing in these prior to the current season as it was close to being the option but in the end Wally chose the gt4 Maserati. With the GT2's and corvette c7 gte cars there was a small amount of ballast needed mostly to the corvette which is a bit quicker it wasn't a huge amount of ballast but I think I would have enjoyed those more then the Maserati.

Gt3 has more top speed as it has less aero, Possibly Spa could be close as is Nords between them and gt3. Still on most tracks the GT2 and GTE cars are a bit quicker even if down on top speed by a bit. They can brake later and cornering speeds are also much quicker due to the aero.
 
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Shameless_1 on November 12, 2016, 12:26:03 AM
Sorry please explain what GTE ? is. 

And I just wish they would bring out dlc packs like DTM etc so that people could set up races by cars that are already matched like gtr2 and gtl had with their FIA GT.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: AJ on November 12, 2016, 12:42:04 AM
This is a good explanation of the various classes:

http://oppositelock.kinja.com/a-guide-through-the-confusing-world-of-gt-classes-1529849729
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Shameless_1 on November 12, 2016, 02:11:04 AM
Thanks,  the only cars I see with GTE in its title is the lotus evora,, which also has a GTC version.  Only 2 GT2 cars and a large number of GT3.

Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: grat on November 12, 2016, 10:44:17 AM
Thanks,  the only cars I see with GTE in its title is the lotus evora,, which also has a GTC version.  Only 2 GT2 cars and a large number of GT3.
The corvette C7R is GTE, or LM GTE, as they are officially called now, I think. If I remember correctly, the Lotus GTE is substantially slower.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: marty on November 12, 2016, 10:48:36 AM
The corvette c7r is gte class, I thought it even had this in the name in AC somewhere. Street cars are confusing though as many are called gt1, gt2, gt3, gt4 gte when they are in no way associated with that class as are those lotus cars. There are also the other lotus gtc and gx evoras which are both race spec cars from other series. Gtc is closer to gt3 and gx to gt2 yet the cars are a bit underpowered against those.

There are also some cars that are gt3 race class but dont have that in their name like the Audi r8 alms which is a full gt3 spec race car but doesnt have gt3 in its name. There is the SCG03 which is made to gt3 rules but isnt actually classed as gt3 even in real world and it raxes in its own class yet is made to be within gt3 regulations.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Shameless_1 on November 12, 2016, 09:35:42 PM
yeah its a tad messy in assetto.. the corvette c7r race car though keeps up with GT3. The naming has just got too complex really.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: marty on November 12, 2016, 09:52:38 PM
Its not really a problem with AC car naming as they are named as the real cars are, car manufacturers name cars in such a weird way that people that dont know the actual cars wont understand what they really are.

Here is the Porsche naming code just to confuse you some more confusions.  ;D
https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/products/porsche-model-name-type-number-12087.html

Original GT2 model was made for GT2 race spec but then road and trackday cars were made based off the race car also named GT2 using the other codes after that to signify road, trackday and race cars.

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GTS (e.g. Cayman GTS)

GTS stands for Gran Turismo Sport and is originally a homologation class from motor racing. The 904 Carrera GTS received this epithet for the first time in 1963. In 1991, the 928 GTS revived the tradition. The GTS suffix is currently used to designate the especially sporty and exclusive models of a Porsche model series.

RS (e.g. 911 Carrera RS 2.7, model year 1972)

The RS (stands for RennSport[=racing sport]) and is a street-legal model that has been derived from the motor racing version. The designation is, however, also used for particularly sporty models, e.g. the 911 RS America.

RSR (e.g. 911 Carrera RSR 2.8 model year 1973)

The RennSport Rennwagen (RSR) [literally: racing sport racing car] is a purely competition version and is not street legal.

S (e.g. 928 S, model year 1979; Macan S)

S for “Super” or “Sport”: a version with a more powerful engine. Today the S consistently stands for “Sport” and, in addition to the extra-sporty engine, additionally includes enhancements to the equipment compared with the basic model.

All the GT2 models
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_911_GT2

GT3 Models
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_911_GT3
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Bacchulum on November 12, 2016, 10:11:29 PM
You don't get this problem with racing cars. ;)

(remember, racing cars don't have doors or roofs) 8)
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Phil.8 on November 12, 2016, 11:00:38 PM
You don't get this problem with racing cars. ;)

(remember, racing cars don't have doors or roofs) 8)
THATS RIGHT :)
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: marty on November 13, 2016, 01:07:05 AM
You don't get this problem with racing cars. ;)

(remember, racing cars don't have doors or roofs) 8)

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 :o
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Shameless_1 on November 13, 2016, 01:55:17 AM
Yeah im a porsche fan.  So was aware of most of it.

 I guess in Assetto what I'd like to see is a category selector. I think in single player you can select "similar cars" when starting a race.  But the server manager doesn't appear to have this.  It would be nice to just select GT3 or GT2 etc etc with race cars.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Bruce on November 13, 2016, 07:24:19 AM
You don't get this problem with racing cars. ;)

(remember, racing cars don't have doors or roofs) 8)
:P  yes and no
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https://goo.gl/images/HOsRqK
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: rooshooter on November 13, 2016, 08:35:33 AM
LOL Bruce
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: marty on November 24, 2016, 12:28:58 AM
I havent tried many of the pp2 cars yet but that 919 would make an awesome season car. I think there is due to be an audi LMP1 car and toyota LMP1 car at some point so maybe one to hold off a bit. But the strategy it gives with kers at a track like Spa is so good for racing. Its not a real hard car to drive but going through power modes and also using manual overtake button lets you use strategy against opponents, save power up early part of the lap then attack in the last sector against people that may have used it all up by then. In defence you can use it in spots where you may be vulnerable then save it up in sections the car behind cant really make a legit move. Then both are trying to find ways to get around the other person and I see why there is so much passing in modern WEC. Seems what F1 really needs is some more kers energy rather then drs which can really add to the racing.

The 911GT1 is also a great car, not sure if its in a similar era to the Mclaren f1 or if it would compete against it or the coming Maserati GT1 car. There are really so many options already that you could run lots of fun seasons with only more official content to come in the next few months. PP3 is on the way soon then there is a fair pile of non Porsche content early next year.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Wally on November 24, 2016, 07:33:35 AM
I havent tried many of the pp2 cars yet but that 919 would make an awesome season car. I think there is due to be an audi LMP1 car and toyota LMP1 car at some point so maybe one to hold off a bit. But the strategy it gives with kers at a track like Spa is so good for racing. Its not a real hard car to drive but going through power modes and also using manual overtake button lets you use strategy against opponents, save power up early part of the lap then attack in the last sector against people that may have used it all up by then. In defence you can use it in spots where you may be vulnerable then save it up in sections the car behind cant really make a legit move. Then both are trying to find ways to get around the other person and I see why there is so much passing in modern WEC. Seems what F1 really needs is some more kers energy rather then drs which can really add to the racing.

The 911GT1 is also a great car, not sure if its in a similar era to the Mclaren f1 or if it would compete against it or the coming Maserati GT1 car. There are really so many options already that you could run lots of fun seasons with only more official content to come in the next few months. PP3 is on the way soon then there is a fair pile of non Porsche content early next year.
I added an LMP1 option to the poll.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: AJ on November 24, 2016, 09:22:26 AM
The 911GT1 is also a great car, not sure if its in a similar era to the Mclaren f1 or if it would compete against it or the coming Maserati GT1 car. There are really so many options already that you could run lots of fun seasons with only more official content to come in the next few months. PP3 is on the way soon then there is a fair pile of non Porsche content early next year.
McLaren F1 was indeed a direct competitor to the 911 GT1. Would be interesting to see how closely matched they are in game.

I agree that the 919 could be a good car to use for a season. For something so damn fast, it is surprisingly driveable. Would have to have Circuit de la Sarthe in the season with either of these options though  8)
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Mael on November 24, 2016, 11:16:54 AM
Tor Poznań track also had a few updates recently!
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: marty on November 24, 2016, 05:28:27 PM
The 911GT1 is also a great car, not sure if its in a similar era to the Mclaren f1 or if it would compete against it or the coming Maserati GT1 car. There are really so many options already that you could run lots of fun seasons with only more official content to come in the next few months. PP3 is on the way soon then there is a fair pile of non Porsche content early next year.
McLaren F1 was indeed a direct competitor to the 911 GT1. Would be interesting to see how closely matched they are in game.

I agree that the 919 could be a good car to use for a season. For something so damn fast, it is surprisingly driveable. Would have to have Circuit de la Sarthe in the season with either of these options though  8)

I did put up a server with all the current ingame prototype and older gt cars at Spa.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Bacchulum on December 03, 2016, 07:31:38 PM
Not a season idea, but a one off type of thing. ???

I'd like to do the 1965 Australian Grand prix. ;D
26 laps of Longford.

Sure, most cars were Brabham/Climax's or Cooper/Climax's, but the Lotus 25 would make a good comparison. ;)
It's open wheel but no d/f, so it's not that unfamiliar to tin-top enthusiasts.

Just a dream.......
 8).
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Wally on December 03, 2016, 11:45:40 PM
Not a season idea, but a one off type of thing. ???

I'd like to do the 1965 Australian Grand prix. ;D
26 laps of Longford.

Sure, most cars were Brabham/Climax's or Cooper/Climax's, but the Lotus 25 would make a good comparison. ;)
It's open wheel but no d/f, so it's not that unfamiliar to tin-top enthusiasts.

Just a dream.......
 8).
Maybe a Dec 13 fun run...
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: doobs on December 07, 2016, 09:09:14 AM
Not a season idea, but a one off type of thing. ???

I'd like to do the 1965 Australian Grand prix. ;D
26 laps of Longford.

Sure, most cars were Brabham/Climax's or Cooper/Climax's, but the Lotus 25 would make a good comparison. ;)
It's open wheel but no d/f, so it's not that unfamiliar to tin-top enthusiasts.

Just a dream.......
 8).

That'd be awesome
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Phil.8 on December 07, 2016, 01:37:16 PM
Not a season idea, but a one off type of thing. ???

I'd like to do the 1965 Australian Grand prix. ;D
26 laps of Longford.

Sure, most cars were Brabham/Climax's or Cooper/Climax's, but the Lotus 25 would make a good comparison. ;)
It's open wheel but no d/f, so it's not that unfamiliar to tin-top enthusiasts.

Just a dream.......



 8).

I like the sound of that
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: MG on December 18, 2016, 06:29:23 AM
In general, I'd like to stick to original AC cars, for "genuine" physics. There are plenty to choose from!
I agree, iam not much for the modded tracks or cars.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Wally on December 23, 2016, 10:53:17 AM
I added "GT - Porsche 911 GT3 Cup 2017" as an option. This is a fantastic race car, I reckon, running in the Carrera Cup series. Hard sprung, bounces around, can get unsettled.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: MG on December 23, 2016, 03:26:30 PM
Ok, for next season if we DONT run the F138 this season lets run with the 2015 turbo F1 Ferrari.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: AJ on December 23, 2016, 03:48:41 PM
Not sure that's the greatest idea since half the people probably don't have the buttons and/or the ability to get anywhere near the best out of them.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: MG on December 24, 2016, 07:08:29 AM
Your probably right but that shouldn't stop us from giving it a go at a later date!

My suggestion has nothing to do with cars, for me nicknames are fine on the forum but on the track we should be racing using our real names, for me it makes it a little more personal if that's the right word.

In our forum sigs we should have to have our real name so we know who everyone's real name is when we get on the server. I would rather say during a race "great overtake Dave" instead if "good job umm unfknbelievable  :o"!!!

Buts that's just what iam used too!
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Wally on December 24, 2016, 07:34:26 AM
Your probably right but that shouldn't stop us from giving it a go at a later date!

My suggestion has nothing to do with cars, for me nicknames are fine on the forum but on the track we should be racing using our real names, for me it makes it a little more personal if that's the right word.

In our forum sigs we should have to have our real name so we know who everyone's real name is when we get on the server. I would rather say during a race "great overtake Dave" instead if "good job umm unfknbelievable  :o"!!!

Buts that's just what iam used too!

I'm not fussed whether people use their real names or not, and prefer to let people race with whatever name they want. It's their choice. But I would like to see some consistency between forum names and racing names, as it gets confusing otherwise. I might see if I can edit people's profiles on the forum to add their track name in the avatar section, where their forum name is different.

E. G. I've done it for GzeroD, on the left here: http://xgn.com.au/index.php?topic=1732.msg32668#msg32668
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: MG on December 24, 2016, 07:50:09 AM
IMO it just makes it easier for ME to get to know the guys better, my first league was a nickname league and because of this they could race whatever way they wanted then use their real name when it really mattered, in AC you get a iRacing type rating, nothing stopping someone with a bad rep who uses a nickname to change to his real one and vice versa, I just think that here, when you race you race as you not as whatever you like to call yourself!

Just my opinion!
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: marty on December 24, 2016, 08:20:54 AM
in AC you get a iRacing type rating, nothing stopping someone with a bad rep who uses a nickname to change to his real one and vice versa, I just think that here, when you race you race as you not as whatever you like to call yourself!

Just my opinion!

The minorating system in AC isnt linked to user name but guid so changing the name makes no difference its just past racing history on any servers running the system. Also you dont have easy access to others ratings only if your in the server you can see others ratings or admins.

In the league its not like people keep changing their name to hide past history in league races. Everyone keeps the same name and entry is also via GUID on main seasons where Wally sets driver names anyway. This is just what they entered the season as and can be changed if someone asks but we all know who is who.

I havent had any issues with anyone here other then a couple guys in their first race or 2 not quite up with the general clean and fair driving standard of the league.

This includes using Wally's PLP app for track limits and not openly trying to abuse these for an unfair advantage and also leaving racing room for others trying best to avoid contact.

Real names or not dont exactly bother me and I cant see how using a nickname will allow someone to hide behind this. Its the individuals action on track that matters and changing their ingame name has no effect on this.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: MG on December 24, 2016, 10:56:15 AM
Iam not saying people use nicknames to hide behind them Marty, it's just from my previous experience with leagues that race using their real names for me it just makes it easier for me to get to know them more personally....that's all. Don't get me wrong as Iam definitely not accusing anyone of doing that here. It's just something I will have to get used to...no dramas 😃. Agreed it's up to the individual to do the right thing  👍.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: marty on December 24, 2016, 02:56:24 PM
Yea but even if using realistic names it may not still be a real name. You still get to know people by their ingame name whatever it is, Id personally prefer normal names, first names at least but its not a big deal either way for me.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: GzeroD on December 24, 2016, 07:08:39 PM
It's good that AC supports server side naming,  I normally race as GzeroD on any given server but on the managed XGN servers I appear as Seanus. This is great as I can work on the (in)famous reputation of my online persona in public but still use a human friendly name for my league appearances without having to remember to edit my ingame nickname.
It would be cool (IMHO) if others could follow this scheme, for example only;

XGN Wally Masterson = Wally (we known you're XGN already)
shameless_1 = Shameless (just cleaner looking) or Des Dez
etc etc

This would also help keep the replays cleaner looking when the driver's names are showing.

Mostly just use what you would like to be called over TeamSpeak, You can't pronounce GzeroD(G0D perhaps) so I use Seanus.
Anyway it not a huge concern as we all learn each others name eventually, although it took me a month to realise grat and Gratualin were different people!
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on December 24, 2016, 10:59:09 PM
Yes, at least I use a real name as my alias ;)
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Wally on December 24, 2016, 11:34:00 PM
It's good that AC supports server side naming,  I normally race as GzeroD on any given server but on the managed XGN servers I appear as Seanus. This is great as I can work on the (in)famous reputation of my online persona in public but still use a human friendly name for my league appearances without having to remember to edit my ingame nickname.
It would be cool (IMHO) if others could follow this scheme, for example only;

XGN Wally Masterson = Wally (we known you're XGN already)
shameless_1 = Shameless (just cleaner looking) or Des
etc etc

This would also help keep the replays cleaner looking when the driver's names are showing.

Mostly just use what you would like to be called over TeamSpeak, You can't pronounce GzeroD(G0D perhaps) so I use Seanus.
Anyway it not a huge concern as we all learn each others name eventually, although it took me a month to realise grat and Gratualin were different people!

Just to explain the XGN in my name - it's a promotional "tool" for when I'm in a public server, or setting lap times on the RSR rank.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Shameless_1 on December 25, 2016, 06:47:15 PM
It's good that AC supports server side naming,  I normally race as GzeroD on any given server but on the managed XGN servers I appear as Seanus. This is great as I can work on the (in)famous reputation of my online persona in public but still use a human friendly name for my league appearances without having to remember to edit my ingame nickname.
It would be cool (IMHO) if others could follow this scheme, for example only;

XGN Wally Masterson = Wally (we known you're XGN already)
shameless_1 = Shameless (just cleaner looking) or Des
etc etc

This would also help keep the replays cleaner looking when the driver's names are showing.

Mostly just use what you would like to be called over TeamSpeak, You can't pronounce GzeroD(G0D perhaps) so I use Seanus.
Anyway it not a huge concern as we all learn each others name eventually, although it took me a month to realise grat and Gratualin were different people!

It's "Dez" actually ;) I think Bruce may have been a tad drunk ;) when he called me Des.  I've had many nicks over the years, Shameless is usually taken so it's either ShamelessOne or Shameless_1. I have no issues being Dez again though.  My youtube nick is OnlyShameless.   My shameless nick came about from the song by Garth Brooks - Shameless.  years ago.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Bruce on December 26, 2016, 10:26:23 AM
Sorry Dez,  I was spelling from the spoken word!  Jeez, am.i getting or have a reputation for drinking?  :) ( hehe, it's more I have a low tolerance, well that's my excuse.)
I have "misplaced"  all the old XGN race stats so also had to rely on my memory!
Back on topic...
Just call me Bruce.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Joe on December 26, 2016, 12:55:23 PM
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Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: RussG on December 26, 2016, 10:04:34 PM
Just call me Bruce.

G'day Bruce.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyVX3uJpqxc

Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Slow_As on March 05, 2017, 06:05:37 PM
Hi all - its probably all been done before - but a GP2 series or similar would produce great racing - and quick enought to be entertaining...  :)
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: grat on March 05, 2017, 07:59:32 PM
Hi all - its probably all been done before - but a GP2 series or similar would produce great racing - and quick enought to be entertaining...  :)
The closest thing we had was a Formula Renault 3.5 Season. The car was great and racing was difficult but enjoyable. The problem is that laptime differences were really big and we starting adding ballast to balance the field. But the differences were so huge that quite a few ended up with 150+Kg od ballast, in a car that probably weights 500Kg in total...
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Freezer on March 05, 2017, 08:18:16 PM
Hi all - its probably all been done before - but a GP2 series or similar would produce great racing - and quick enought to be entertaining...  :)
The closest thing we had was a Formula Renault 3.5 Season. The car was great and racing was difficult but enjoyable. The problem is that laptime differences were really big and we starting adding ballast to balance the field. But the differences were so huge that quite a few ended up with 150+Kg od ballast, in a car that probably weights 500Kg in total...
We need a Formula Ford series.  Open wheel, slower, drafting . . .
Not that I know if a decent mod exists.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: grat on March 05, 2017, 08:41:28 PM
Hi all - its probably all been done before - but a GP2 series or similar would produce great racing - and quick enought to be entertaining...  :)
The closest thing we had was a Formula Renault 3.5 Season. The car was great and racing was difficult but enjoyable. The problem is that laptime differences were really big and we starting adding ballast to balance the field. But the differences were so huge that quite a few ended up with 150+Kg od ballast, in a car that probably weights 500Kg in total...
We need a Formula Ford series.  Open wheel, slower, drafting . . .
Not that I know if a decent mod exists.
We could try the lotus 25... much faster, but the rest would be there.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Mael on March 23, 2017, 07:28:37 PM
For a more strategic racing another league tried the following with the Lotus 98T by limiting the fuel and forcing drivers to choose between higher turbo boost and fuel economy. Quoted from the official forums.

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As @Mogster said, 100% (or anything above 70%) is for qualifying only.

Furthermore, as @Trezoitao38 said, in race trim and if you do a proper long race, you shouldn't ever use more than 70% because of fuel consume problems. Refuelling was not permitted back then and so you had to keep your turbo pressure low. Many drivers would also coast and shortshift before braking points to lower the fuel consume even more. This whole thing has been nicely recreated in Eurogamer.it new Lotus 98T championship, where top drivers are "forced" to shortshift, use low pressure and coast before braking zones, to save fuel (the league is on full length GP races). You use higher turbo pressure only very very rarely if you need to overtake
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Wally on March 23, 2017, 08:59:03 PM
I might consider an all lotus open wheeler season - pick a number, 25, 49, 72, 98, 125
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: killagorilla on December 23, 2017, 10:30:54 AM
A one make series in the Ferrari F2004 would be fantastic.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Wally on December 23, 2017, 10:51:00 AM
A one make series in the Ferrari F2004 would be fantastic.
We will certainly try this kind of thing again, but in the past, we have found that numbers drop off a bit and the racing is quite difficult, with lots of crashes. But I'm keen, in the name of diversity, and I also like a challenge.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: killagorilla on December 23, 2017, 08:39:47 PM
Yeah, that guy is extremely fast and not having DRS/KERS makes it a bit easier.
Maybe 3 sprint races work well, so if someone's race is messed up for whatever reason it's less painful...I know, not very realistic, but fun.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: killagorilla on January 24, 2018, 10:39:42 AM
If not open wheeler I think we should give that Lotus 3 eleven a go...was pretty good in the poll anyway.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Phil.8 on January 24, 2018, 10:54:41 AM
I reckon the slowest cars on the shortest tracks possible, give everyone a chance to brush up on race craft
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Mael on January 24, 2018, 11:21:23 AM
I reckon the slowest cars on the shortest tracks possible, give everyone a chance to brush up on race craft

So you saying the FIAT 595 or Peugeot 504?  Should be fun  ;D
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: killagorilla on January 24, 2018, 11:49:52 AM
I reckon the slowest cars on the shortest tracks possible, give everyone a chance to brush up on race craft

Nah, please...and where's the fun?
Anyway, fast cars = fast learning  ;)

Seriously, seat time makes you fast...and that's being done by yourself whether on the server or offline doesn't matter...I doubt that little bit of racing on Tuesday nights will be enough.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Phil.8 on January 24, 2018, 12:08:26 PM
I am not talking about driving fast, anyone can do that alone
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Wally on January 24, 2018, 12:30:15 PM
I also really liked the Ferrari 599xx EVO fun run we did. Someone on the night said "why haven't we raced these in a season?". I agree!
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Bacchulum on January 24, 2018, 01:01:05 PM
Quote
Open Wheeler (Single Seater) - Praga R1
Stop calling the Praga an 'open wheel' car! >:(

 :P :P ;D
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: killagorilla on January 24, 2018, 01:13:19 PM
I am not talking about driving fast, anyone can do that alone

Mate, you got me wrong. My understanding is you're talking about building up race craft and the way I see it it's very difficult doing that on Tuesday night's racing because it's simply not enough imo. Seat time is the key...at least for me.
There's a pretty fast little Abarth 500 and I've had some great fun with it racing with DC, Rexology, Hotdog and some others. However, it seems you're talking about even slower cars...yeah, and I just like faster ones more. Anyway just making suggestions...not my decision.

Can't remember driving the Ferrari 599, but it does sound good as well.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: GzeroD on January 24, 2018, 01:20:00 PM
Hypercar Showdown:

Six cars to choose from, each car only to be driven once by each driver.
Say seven rounds with a 'Grand Final' where drivers can choose their favourite car.

Ferrari 599XX EVO
Ferrari LaFerrari
Lamborghini Gallardo SL S3
McLaren P1 GTR
Porsche 918 Spyder
Pagani Huayra BC
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Mael on January 24, 2018, 01:33:43 PM
I also really liked the Ferrari 599xx EVO fun run we did. Someone on the night said "why haven't we raced these in a season?". I agree!

What about the little KTM, its a open wheeler, roadcar and hypercar all in one so we have all the bases covered.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: buellersdayoff on January 24, 2018, 02:58:18 PM
I am not talking about driving fast, anyone can do that alone
I also really liked the Ferrari 599xx EVO fun run we did. Someone on the night said "why haven't we raced these in a season?". I agree!
I like both of these ideas
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: buellersdayoff on January 24, 2018, 02:59:15 PM
I reckon the slowest cars on the shortest tracks possible, give everyone a chance to brush up on race craft
I meant this also lol, quoted the wrong post
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Wally on January 24, 2018, 03:35:20 PM
I'm just going to call it:
A Ferrari 599xx EVO season (feel the need for speed),
Followed by a Lotus 3-Eleven season.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: killagorilla on January 24, 2018, 03:53:22 PM
I'm happy  :)
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Bacchulum on January 24, 2018, 05:28:14 PM
I'm just going to call it:
A Ferrari 599xx EVO season (feel the need for speed),
Followed by a Lotus 3-Eleven season.
That's strange. :-\ ???
They don't sound like open wheelers.........
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Godzilla on January 24, 2018, 05:34:28 PM
I'm just going to call it:
A Ferrari 599xx EVO season (feel the need for speed),
Followed by a Lotus 3-Eleven season.

Both good, but must ask, what was the point of the poll considering neither of these were even on it? Lol
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Bacchulum on January 24, 2018, 05:44:26 PM
Maybe because this poll was started in August 21, 2016 and probably long forgotten by most. ;)
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Mael on January 24, 2018, 05:52:55 PM
We demand democracy  ;D
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Wally on January 24, 2018, 06:12:41 PM
I'm just going to call it:
A Ferrari 599xx EVO season (feel the need for speed),
Followed by a Lotus 3-Eleven season.
That's strange. :-\ ???
They don't sound like open wheelers.........
Who said anything about open wheelers?
The wheel will turn... boom boom.
I'm just going to call it:
A Ferrari 599xx EVO season (feel the need for speed),
Followed by a Lotus 3-Eleven season.

Both good, but must ask, what was the point of the poll considering neither of these were even on it? Lol
Yeah, this poll idea didn't really work out, I don't think. Maybe it shows in general what's a popular idea, but there are too many future possibilities.[/size]
We demand democracy  ;D
You're outvoted. Revel in this period of simplicity, the burden of choice lifted!
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Joe on January 24, 2018, 06:13:40 PM
Anything other than the bmw and I'll be happy  ;D
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Godzilla on January 24, 2018, 06:17:51 PM
Maybe because this poll was started in August 21, 2016 and probably long forgotten by most. ;)

Ahh, did not realise it’s an ancient poll, thought it was current for next season
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: grat on January 24, 2018, 10:45:01 PM
If I can be completely honest, I have found that the most enjoyable seasons were those in not excessively fast race cars, preferably without too much electronics, but it is not mandatory. E.g., the 1970s F1 season, the Maserati GT4 and Porsche cup seasons. Road cars and trackday cars do not seem to give the same race pace, and some open-wheelers seemed to be a bit too complicated for some (perhaps most) of us. Even this current season is not too bad---it's just the format that is a bit tricky, as traffic is huge and the car is a bit too fast for it. It worked ok with the Japanese cars ot the GT86, but not so much with these. NOTE: all three seasons above were pretty regular races, with not so many artifices. I don't know... maybe I am the only one, but I really enjoyed fighting on pace and the occasional battle, rather that trying to squeeze through traffic.

BTW: I am back in Sydney and will try to join for next race---worst case scenario, the one after that. I am not very confident my PC problems are solved, but apparently you all say I should not spend money right now, so I am holing on... I just hope it does not ruin my Tuesdays.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Wally on January 25, 2018, 08:07:43 AM
Hope to see you back on Tuesday with a happy PC Grat.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: rob on January 25, 2018, 10:25:03 AM
Hey Wally, not fussy,  just about anything that DOESN"T include a reverse grid and I'm in.

Maybe like BTCC a reverse grid of the top 10. I think we've done something like that before.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Godzilla on January 25, 2018, 10:31:34 AM
Hey Wally, not fussy,  just about anything that DOESN"T include a reverse grid and I'm in.

Maybe like BTCC a reverse grid of the top 10. I think we've done something like that before.

Second the no reverse grid or top 10 reverse only, just causes carnage. Monday ROOZ fun run was reverse top 8 and that worked quiet well
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Wally on January 25, 2018, 10:53:41 AM
I don't do reverse grids all that often, but they never seem to work out that well. We have also done reverse top 10 (or whatever), and then the guy finishes 11 complains that it's not fair, because they just missed out on pole for the next race. There's always someone who complains about something, so I have to develop a bit of a thicker skin about complaints and ignore most things that aren't crucial flaws.


But yeah, fill reverse grids will die a natural death, I think.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Freezer on January 25, 2018, 11:23:13 AM
I don't do reverse grids all that often, but they never seem to work out that well. We have also done reverse top 10 (or whatever), and then the guy finishes 11 complains that it's not fair, because they just missed out on pole for the next race. There's always someone who complains about something, so I have to develop a bit of a thicker skin about complaints and ignore most things that aren't crucial flaws.


But yeah, fill reverse grids will die a natural death, I think.
Your signature quote says it all Wally . . . . . . your doing a great job and the variety keeps it interesting!
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Mael on January 25, 2018, 11:26:54 AM
But yeah, fill reverse grids will die a natural death, I think.

Reverse grids do work well in slow cars, The BMW might be a touch to rapid combined with tricky tracks which caused a bit of chaos at times.  ;D  Also depends on what the goal is of the races. Is it to find out who's the quickest or to have some fun racing?

For myself, I know who the quickest drivers are, that has been established from public races, practice servers and past races. And unless GB is driving, the driver would never be able to claim the alien title.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Wally on January 25, 2018, 01:41:23 PM
I don't do reverse grids all that often, but they never seem to work out that well. We have also done reverse top 10 (or whatever), and then the guy finishes 11 complains that it's not fair, because they just missed out on pole for the next race. There's always someone who complains about something, so I have to develop a bit of a thicker skin about complaints and ignore most things that aren't crucial flaws.


But yeah, fill reverse grids will die a natural death, I think.
Your signature quote says it all Wally . . . . . . your doing a great job and the variety keeps it interesting!
Thanks Freezer. Yeah, I think you have to keep mixing it up to keep it interesting. You can't just do the same format/rules week after week.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: buellersdayoff on January 25, 2018, 02:17:51 PM
I don't do reverse grids all that often, but they never seem to work out that well. We have also done reverse top 10 (or whatever), and then the guy finishes 11 complains that it's not fair, because they just missed out on pole for the next race. There's always someone who complains about something, so I have to develop a bit of a thicker skin about complaints and ignore most things that aren't crucial flaws.


But yeah, fill reverse grids will die a natural death, I think.
Your signature quote says it all Wally . . . . . . your doing a great job and the variety keeps it interesting!
Thanks Freezer. Yeah, I think you have to keep mixing it up to keep it interesting. You can't just do the same format/rules week after week.
When I first started with you guys, it was the Escort and had restrictor applied to the faster guys/winners to give the slower guys a run at the front, I liked the idea and signed up. I also signed up for this season knowing the rules/conditions and have enjoyed both series. I also like that you are thinking outside the box, trying to give a bit of variety and bring a little bit of equality to the field. Not every plan will be 100% successful but don't give up, I might not be as encouraging if I'd been caught up in some the big incidents, but then you'd just think...sore loser lol. What I'm trying say is keep it up, it's good fun and much better than having the same people win all the races all of the time, thanks for all the effort you put in to keep this stuff going
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Joe on January 25, 2018, 04:31:52 PM
I don't do reverse grids all that often, but they never seem to work out that well. We have also done reverse top 10 (or whatever), and then the guy finishes 11 complains that it's not fair, because they just missed out on pole for the next race. There's always someone who complains about something, so I have to develop a bit of a thicker skin about complaints and ignore most things that aren't crucial flaws.


But yeah, fill reverse grids will die a natural death, I think.
Your signature quote says it all Wally . . . . . . your doing a great job and the variety keeps it interesting!
Thanks Freezer. Yeah, I think you have to keep mixing it up to keep it interesting. You can't just do the same format/rules week after week.
When I first started with you guys, it was the Escort and had restrictor applied to the faster guys/winners to give the slower guys a run at the front, I liked the idea and signed up. I also signed up for this season knowing the rules/conditions and have enjoyed both series. I also like that you are thinking outside the box, trying to give a bit of variety and bring a little bit of equality to the field. Not every plan will be 100% successful but don't give up, I might not be as encouraging if I'd been caught up in some the big incidents, but then you'd just think...sore loser lol. What I'm trying say is keep it up, it's good fun and much better than having the same people win all the races all of the time, thanks for all the effort you put in to keep this stuff going

Agreed always appreciate the effort you put into everything Wally. Changing things up and trying new things. Like Bueller said we all know the format and rules when we sign up. There has been a lot more complaining recently on voice chat mid race which I'd like to see stop. If people have issues it's best to wait till the end of the race than the distract everyone else.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Wally on January 25, 2018, 04:37:48 PM
Thanks fellas.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on January 28, 2018, 08:39:14 PM
We demand democracy  ;D

Taxation without representation!
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Wally on January 29, 2018, 09:31:14 AM
We demand democracy  ;D

Taxation without representation!
Howdy stranger. It's time you got back into sim racing I reckon...
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Joe on January 29, 2018, 05:37:58 PM
We demand democracy  ;D

Taxation without representation!
Howdy stranger. It's time you got back into sim racing I reckon...

Hear Hear!!
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: killagorilla on January 29, 2018, 07:04:33 PM
Think I qualify as a sim racing noob...600h total on AC, a bit GSC Extreme and the rest is WRC on PS quite a while ago.
So is this Guybrush an 'alien' then? I mean his server stats are pretty impressive.

When it comes to democracy, that's like in the real world, you vote and someone else decides.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Joe on January 29, 2018, 07:09:32 PM
Think I qualify as a sim racing noob...600h total on AC, a bit GSC Extreme and the rest is WRC on PS quite a while ago.
So is this Guybrush an 'alien' then? I mean his server stats are pretty impressive.

When it comes to democracy, that's like in the real world, you vote and someone else decides.

Yes. Alien. Nobody could really touch him.
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Phil.8 on January 29, 2018, 07:13:53 PM
Think I qualify as a sim racing noob...600h total on AC, a bit GSC Extreme and the rest is WRC on PS quite a while ago.
So is this Guybrush an 'alien' then? I mean his server stats are pretty impressive.

When it comes to democracy, that's like in the real world, you vote and someone else decides.

when GB returns don't expect to ever win a race again  :o ;)
what ever the current fastest laps have been this season you could knock a second or more off them and that would be his time
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Joe on January 29, 2018, 07:40:09 PM
Good editing skills there Phil  ;D
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Phil.8 on January 29, 2018, 08:13:56 PM
glad you liked it :)
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Guybrush Threepwood on January 29, 2018, 09:02:30 PM
Bah, we were all in a similar bracket, I just had time to practice some more.

Would love to come back, and one day it will happen, but I think I'm waiting for VR to go higher res before I make the jump.  I'll have to get a new wheel/pedals + GPU.  Sim Racing is one of my favourite hobbies but it is addictive and all-consuming for me - two bad combinations.  Mrs Threepwood isn't going to be happy...
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: killagorilla on January 29, 2018, 09:55:11 PM
How about using mouse and keyboard...and keep it interesting ;-)
Title: Re: Future Season Ideas
Post by: Matthew111 on February 04, 2018, 08:56:27 PM
Bah, we were all in a similar bracket, I just had time to practice some more.

Would love to come back, and one day it will happen, but I think I'm waiting for VR to go higher res before I make the jump.  I'll have to get a new wheel/pedals + GPU.  Sim Racing is one of my favourite hobbies but it is addictive and all-consuming for me - two bad combinations.  Mrs Threepwood isn't going to be happy...

Nah doesnt have to be, just jump in on the night, adapt to it then and have some fun, its what a few of us do and its good fun like that, prac is over rated takes the surprise and challenge away lol. You look forward to driving more when you wait till the tues night, over doing it and driving it every night of course you will get over it and so will everyone else in the house haha, all about balance  ;)