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Title: S27R4: Thruxton Race Chat
Post by: Wally on March 20, 2019, 08:04:31 AM
Congratulations to Phil on pole, and to Phil and Freezer for the race wins. Phil takes the round win, stretching his lead at the top of the standings. Joe drops down the ladder with Freezer moving up to take 3d place.

RACE 1 RESULTS (https://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2019/03/s27r4-sports-cars-at-thruxton-race-1.html)
RACE 2 RESULTS (https://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2019/03/s27r4-sports-cars-at-thruxton-race-2.html)
RACE 3 RESULTS (https://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2019/03/s27r4-sports-cars-at-thruxton-race-3.html)
SEASON STANDINGS (https://xgnassettocorsa.blogspot.com/2019/03/season-27-standings.html)
SEASON STATS (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nu52lWM6_TIRBEGCTF32BxLe8mobfsCFpd_wOeuxpXI/edit?usp=sharing)

Round Points
Phil.8   74
Freezer   64
Wally   58
killagorilla   54
ab156   49
Mael   48
Bacchulum   47
RussG   43
Joe   41
bradc   39
Dave O   37
Keith   36
Bird   35
Rob   28
AbleArcher83   27
JamieP   25

Lap ranking
Phil.8   86.952
Bird   87.145
Freezer   87.348
ab156   87.377
killagorilla   87.424
Joe   87.456
Wally   87.461
Mael   87.560
Dave O   87.629
RussG   87.657
bradc   87.794
Keith   87.800
Bacchulum   87.904
AbleArcher83   88.572
Rob   88.845
JamieP   88.919


Lap 1 Penalties

Race 1
None.

Race 2
AbleArcher came in too hot into T3, went right to dodge DaveO and slid across the grass into JamieP, spinning him - $300 penalty.

Race 3
None.

Season Standings
1. Phil.8, 211
2. Wally, 198
3. Freezer, 186



This round sees us at Thruxton, "the fastest circuit in the UK" (where I can afford a Mustang).
The races are 13 laps.

Track link: https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/thruxton.6192 (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/thruxton.6192)

It's cold in England again - 11, 13 and 15, and cloudy.
Title: Re: S27R4: Thruxton Race Chat
Post by: Mael on March 21, 2019, 12:14:11 AM
In before the Aliens  ;D

(https://i.imgur.com/JruEF2U.png?1)
Title: Re: S27R4: Thruxton Race Chat
Post by: Joe on March 21, 2019, 07:58:21 AM
In before the Aliens  ;D

Haha. The only person I'd consider an 'alien' I've raced with would be Guybrush. Plenty of very good people here, but he was another level.
Title: Re: S27R4: Thruxton Race Chat
Post by: killagorilla on March 21, 2019, 08:54:16 AM
Another mediocre performance there and I may be able to get the Abarth. However, I'm not sure if this guy is really giving you an advantage on a faster track...seems to lack top speed a bit.
Title: Re: S27R4: Thruxton Race Chat
Post by: Wally on March 21, 2019, 09:10:46 AM
Another mediocre performance there and I may be able to get the Abarth. However, I'm not sure if this guy is really giving you an advantage on a faster track...seems to lack top speed a bit.
Yeah, it's strength is really cornering. At Modena, my Nissan could pass Abarths on the relatively short straights, but then died in the corners.
Title: Re: S27R4: Thruxton Race Chat
Post by: Wally on March 22, 2019, 09:10:44 AM
When you look at the race graphs for Modena, Joe and Freezer were clearly too fast for the field, off in a race of their own. The point of this car dealer is to promote closer racing (with a strategic element). Joe and Freezer both got their cash by having a bad round with DNFs, not by being slow, which is not really the intent. So from this round, I'll change it so that you don't get money for your finishing position, but by your fastest lap times. In other words, the fastest guy won't earn any cash; the slower guys will get more cash. This way, even if you don't start or finish some races, your cash reserves won't be artificially boosted.
Title: Re: S27R4: Thruxton Race Chat
Post by: Bird on March 22, 2019, 09:20:22 AM
...from this round, I'll change it so that you don't get money for your finishing position, but by your fastest lap times. In other words, the fastest guy won't earn any cash; the slower guys will get more cash. This way, even if you don't start or finish some races, your cash reserves won't be artificially boosted.
So if you dnf a race, you won't cash in? eg if you drop out halfway due to damage?  Or is it for dns (did not start) situations? 
Or is it simply a measure on laptimes, nothing to do with dnf's directly?
What if you don't finish a single lap?  (like myself in r3 last round)
Title: Re: S27R4: Thruxton Race Chat
Post by: Ablearcher83 on March 22, 2019, 04:23:18 PM
1.   Able Acher 83   ks_ford_mustang_2015   01:28.356

That is an outrageous bending of the rules.....and no way legal.  :P
Title: Re: S27R4: Thruxton Race Chat
Post by: Wally on March 23, 2019, 04:18:04 PM
...from this round, I'll change it so that you don't get money for your finishing position, but by your fastest lap times. In other words, the fastest guy won't earn any cash; the slower guys will get more cash. This way, even if you don't start or finish some races, your cash reserves won't be artificially boosted.
So if you dnf a race, you won't cash in? eg if you drop out halfway due to damage?  Or is it for dns (did not start) situations? 
Or is it simply a measure on laptimes, nothing to do with dnf's directly?
What if you don't finish a single lap?  (like myself in r3 last round)
It's based on the averages of your fastest laps. So if you drop out half way through a race, you'll still post a fastest lap for that race, and that will be used. If you only start 2 of 3 races (or don't even complete a lap in one race), your fastest lap times for the two races you did race in will be averaged.
Title: Re: S27R4: Thruxton Race Chat
Post by: Wally on March 23, 2019, 05:56:54 PM
E.g. last round at Modena would have worked out like this (ranked by average fastest lap times over the 3 races). So Freezer would have earned least; Rob would have earned most.

 
Freezer60.566
1
Joe60.572
2
ab15661.400
3
Dave O61.532
4
AbleArcher8361.602
5
killagorilla62.303
6
buellersdayoff62.361
7
Bird62.410
8
RussG62.422
9
JamieP62.438
10
Wally62.462
11
Mael62.526
12
Phil.862.562
13
Bacchulum62.565
14
bradc62.821
15
Rob63.561
16
Title: Re: S27R4: Thruxton Race Chat
Post by: ab156 on March 23, 2019, 07:14:21 PM
Keep rubbing it in... I get it, I was a second slower in the same car :o
Title: Re: S27R4: Thruxton Race Chat
Post by: Wally on March 24, 2019, 09:14:52 AM
I know from experience that you need to be careful at Church bend (the very fast right hander at the bottom of the hill):
(http://www.motorsportcircuits.co.uk/assets/images/thruxton_track.gif)
The fast line there, approached at around 200 kph, is to start far left and then cut across early to the left apex, to carry that speed. There are always people who, having brought more speed through Village, try to pass on the inside there. There is not much the car in front can do to pull out of a pass like that, at that speed. So be careful!
Title: Re: S27R4: Thruxton Race Chat
Post by: Freezer on March 24, 2019, 08:43:52 PM
I know from experience that you need to be careful at Church bend (the very fast right hander at the bottom of the hill):
(http://www.motorsportcircuits.co.uk/assets/images/thruxton_track.gif)
The fast line there, approached at around 200 kph, is to start far left and then cut across early to the left apex, to carry that speed. There are always people who, having brought more speed through Village, try to pass on the inside there. There is not much the car in front can do to pull out of a pass like that, at that speed. So be careful!
I find it very hard to judge that corner and keep missing the apex :(:(
Title: Re: S27R4: Thruxton Race Chat
Post by: Joe on March 24, 2019, 09:52:19 PM
While I'm sure with practice I could go quicker in the Mustang it's horrible to drive so may stick with my trusty Nissan which can actually go around corners.
Title: Re: S27R4: Thruxton Race Chat
Post by: Wally on March 24, 2019, 10:12:05 PM
I know from experience that you need to be careful at Church bend (the very fast right hander at the bottom of the hill):
(http://www.motorsportcircuits.co.uk/assets/images/thruxton_track.gif)
The fast line there, approached at around 200 kph, is to start far left and then cut across early to the left apex, to carry that speed. There are always people who, having brought more speed through Village, try to pass on the inside there. There is not much the car in front can do to pull out of a pass like that, at that speed. So be careful!
I find it very hard to judge that corner and keep missing the apex :( :(
You've got to turn in very early - probably a lot earlier than you think.
Title: Re: S27R4: Thruxton Race Chat
Post by: Wally on March 25, 2019, 10:18:45 AM
While I'm sure with practice I could go quicker in the Mustang it's horrible to drive so may stick with my trusty Nissan which can actually go around corners.
I'm quicker in the Mustang than the Nissan, and I want to stay near the pointy end of the points. So to compete with you and Phil, I'm pinning my hopes on the Stang.
Title: Re: S27R4: Thruxton Race Chat
Post by: killagorilla on March 25, 2019, 11:14:22 AM
Done a few laps in the Nissan last night and figured the front left tire suffers really badly.
I've got the problem that the tire engineer is not showing up at some tracks. Next time different track it's usually there again without me doing anything.
It's activated of course. Is there something you can do to fix this?
Title: Re: S27R4: Thruxton Race Chat
Post by: Joe on March 25, 2019, 11:16:10 AM
While I'm sure with practice I could go quicker in the Mustang it's horrible to drive so may stick with my trusty Nissan which can actually go around corners.
I'm quicker in the Mustang than the Nissan, and I want to stay near the pointy end of the points. So to compete with you and Phil, I'm pinning my hopes on the Stang.

Not sure where I got that last lap from in the Nissan last night. I'll try a few more tonight. I think it was being able to get through that last chicane so much faster.
Title: Re: S27R4: Thruxton Race Chat
Post by: Wally on March 25, 2019, 11:20:50 AM
Done a few laps in the Nissan last night and figured the front left tire suffers really badly.
I've got the problem that the tire engineer is not showing up at some tracks. Next time different track it's usually there again without me doing anything.
It's activated of course. Is there something you can do to fix this?
If it doesn't show up, it's possible it's crashed with an error. In your AC logs folder, there will be a file called py_log.txt. Next time it doesn't show, can you post that file?
Title: Re: S27R4: Thruxton Race Chat
Post by: killagorilla on March 25, 2019, 12:47:02 PM
Cheers Wally. Can't find an error message in there.
Title: Re: S27R4: Thruxton Race Chat
Post by: Wally on March 25, 2019, 02:43:54 PM
Cheers Wally. Can't find an error message in there.
No, I can't see an error there. Do you also have log.txt?
Title: Re: S27R4: Thruxton Race Chat
Post by: Joe on March 25, 2019, 03:48:26 PM
Cheers Wally. Can't find an error message in there.
No, I can't see an error there. Do you also have log.txt?

A few times in the past I've had the app just stop appearing. I always had to uninstall it and re-install but it hasn't done it for quite a long time now. At the time I could never seen anything in the logs either.
Title: Re: S27R4: Thruxton Race Chat
Post by: Bacchulum on March 25, 2019, 04:01:18 PM
Same as Joe. :-\
Title: Re: S27R4: Thruxton Race Chat
Post by: Joe on March 25, 2019, 08:08:40 PM
Think stracker died my times wernt getting registered now ptracker isnt connected
Title: Re: S27R4: Thruxton Race Chat
Post by: killagorilla on March 25, 2019, 09:53:21 PM
Didn't like your 1:26.xx anyway  ;)
Title: Re: S27R4: Thruxton Race Chat
Post by: Joe on March 25, 2019, 10:22:38 PM
Didn't like your 1:26.xx anyway  ;)

pretty sure that was a big cut I'm not sure why it registered. 1:27.1 was my best legal lap I think
Title: Re: S27R4: Thruxton Race Chat
Post by: Wally on March 26, 2019, 08:17:30 AM
Didn't like your 1:26.xx anyway  ;)

pretty sure that was a big cut I'm not sure why it registered. 1:27.1 was my best legal lap I think
I think I know why... some time ago when we raced here on a Thursday, a few people were getting all sorts of checksum errors, so I removed the track's surfaces file from the server. I've put it back now, and restarted stracker.
Title: Re: S27R4: Thruxton Race Chat
Post by: Joe on March 26, 2019, 02:49:37 PM
Didn't like your 1:26.xx anyway  ;)

pretty sure that was a big cut I'm not sure why it registered. 1:27.1 was my best legal lap I think
I think I know why... some time ago when we raced here on a Thursday, a few people were getting all sorts of checksum errors, so I removed the track's surfaces file from the server. I've put it back now, and restarted stracker.

Ah that would explain why I was struggling to find track limits. Some laps ptracker invalidated them but the game didn't. That particular lap was when stacker was restarting and for some reason it picked it up after the fact.
Title: Re: S27R4: Thruxton Race Chat
Post by: Ablearcher83 on March 26, 2019, 04:46:07 PM
Hi Wally,
I was just downloading the Tsukuba circuit and notice it has an update to 2.1.
Just letting you know
https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/tsukuba-circuit.2629/ (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/tsukuba-circuit.2629/)
Title: Re: S27R4: Thruxton Race Chat
Post by: Bacchulum on March 26, 2019, 05:31:29 PM
I think I know why... some time ago when we raced here on a Thursday, a few people were getting all sorts of checksum errors, so I removed the track's surfaces file from the server. I've put it back now, and restarted stracker.
Cue checksum errors............
 :P
Title: Re: S27R4: Thruxton Race Chat
Post by: Wally on March 26, 2019, 06:21:52 PM
Hi Wally,
I was just downloading the Tsukuba circuit and notice it has an update to 2.1.
Just letting you know
https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/tsukuba-circuit.2629/ (https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/tsukuba-circuit.2629/)
Thanks.

I think I know why... some time ago when we raced here on a Thursday, a few people were getting all sorts of checksum errors, so I removed the track's surfaces file from the server. I've put it back now, and restarted stracker.
Cue checksum errors............
 :P
Don't jinx me  :-\

And server's up.
Title: Re: S27R4: Thruxton Race Chat
Post by: JamieP on March 26, 2019, 10:32:20 PM
Had a fun nights racing. Started and finished up the back as usual but had fun.

I had planned to choose the mustang for this round as the Alfa is not much fun to drive but didn't choose in time. Hopefully this'll also be my last race with a monitor unless I can't come to terms with the VR this week.

Thanks everyone and see you next week
Title: Re: S27R4: Thruxton Race Chat
Post by: ab156 on March 26, 2019, 10:38:25 PM
Good nights racing, a few missed opportunities but good fun running against different cars. 

Sorry to Bacchulum and Joe for the mess in R3.
Title: Re: S27R4: Thruxton Race Chat
Post by: Wally on March 26, 2019, 11:06:44 PM
Results are up. Congratulations to Phil on the round win.
Title: Re: S27R4: Thruxton Race Chat
Post by: Freezer on March 26, 2019, 11:17:30 PM
I was hovering around 6th or 7th on the practice server and combined with my continual problem with the fast right on the back straight I wasn't confident.
But then I jag a pb or some 6 tenths and found myself on the front row.
At this point I new my only hope was to user the Nissan start and go like hell before Phil tracked me down.
Race 1 went as expected with Phil catching me in the dying laps and to my surprise in race 2 if anything I was pulling away and grabbed a win!!
Race 3 was the same strong start but I took a few cuts at the chicane then mid race with Phil closing in I put a tyre off on the long right before the back straight.
It wasn't much but cost me a cut (bit silly in that it's on the outside of the corner and I was losing plenty of time).  Phil was now through and I had a 10 sec penalty
so I pushed on just trying to maximise the gap to those behind.
Nissan felt good tonight and much more suited to my driving than the Mustang which I almost went with!
Title: Re: S27R4: Thruxton Race Chat
Post by: killagorilla on March 27, 2019, 12:18:05 AM
The Nissan was fun on this track. I think I lost quite a bit through the chicane before start-finish...especially Wally, but a few others as well were so much faster there.
I think a few battles for position in race one caused some off-tracks and that got me in trouble eventually with a 10s penalty.
Wally as putting a lot of pressure on me...I think it was race 2...well, till Bird solved this problem for me. So I was a bit lucky with the finishes in race 2 and 3.
I'm looking forward trying out the Abarth and see if it's faster for me at the next race...I can just buy it :)
Title: Re: S27R4: Thruxton Race Chat
Post by: Bird on March 27, 2019, 08:56:00 AM
I really enjoyed last night, but could not keep it together in race3.   
The Mustang was a really good choice, it was slightly slower in some corners vs the gtr, but had a bit of extra down the straighter bits.

But the result in the car dealer is shocking :)
Quote
-$205   $5,292   Race result - finished P2, earnings $200, damage fee $105, entry fee $300"

Are you sure, Wally, that cut-track laps don't count?  I can't believe I was this fast.   I know it's the avg of fastest laps, but still, it feels maybe the really badly cut lap might be calculated in, as that could have been a very quick lap throwing the average.
Title: Re: S27R4: Thruxton Race Chat
Post by: Wally on March 27, 2019, 09:25:30 AM
I really enjoyed last night, but could not keep it together in race3.   
The Mustang was a really good choice, it was slightly slower in some corners vs the gtr, but had a bit of extra down the straighter bits.

But the result in the car dealer is shocking :)
Quote
-$205   $5,292   Race result - finished P2, earnings $200, damage fee $105, entry fee $300"

Are you sure, Wally, that cut-track laps don't count?  I can't believe I was this fast.   I know it's the avg of fastest laps, but still, it feels maybe the really badly cut lap might be calculated in, as that could have been a very quick lap throwing the average.
You can see by expanding your laps in the race results that none of your fastest laps (2 in the 26's) was a cut lap.
Title: Re: S27R4: Thruxton Race Chat
Post by: Wally on March 27, 2019, 09:38:28 AM
Good racing last night. The Mustang was fun here. I finished surprisingly well, given my not so great qualifying time.

It was a bit disappointing to be accidentally tapped by Bird while doing well. I nearly hung on to it, but didn't manage it. That lead to some interesting racing back in the pack.
 
Sorry Brad for running wide into you at T1. I was keeping it tight on the inside and went up on the kerb, and it slipped me out a little wide when I came off it.

Two highlights: passing Bacchulum when he had a nice overseeing drift in his Mustang, slipping by on the inside, and having Mael pass me heading towards the chicane on the final lap, only to be able to criss-cross him on the exit from the chicane and beat his puny little BMW in a drag to the line.
Title: Re: S27R4: Thruxton Race Chat
Post by: Bird on March 27, 2019, 10:17:32 AM
You can see by expanding your laps in the race results that none of your fastest laps (2 in the 26's) was a cut lap.

Ah cool, thanks.   Amazing.

And again; sorry for running into you :(
Title: Re: S27R4: Thruxton Race Chat
Post by: Wally on March 27, 2019, 12:41:02 PM
You can see by expanding your laps in the race results that none of your fastest laps (2 in the 26's) was a cut lap.

Ah cool, thanks.   Amazing.

And again; sorry for running into you :(
No worries, I know it was an innocent mistake.
Title: Re: S27R4: Thruxton Race Chat
Post by: Joe on March 28, 2019, 08:07:41 AM
I had some great racing but was a little disappointed in the overall results as knew I could have done better.

Was running 5th or 6th in race one and has a touch with Wally which sent me off on to the grass and there was no way to re-enter safely so I had to let the whole field by and rejoin in last place. With the other races starting in finishing order that had a big impact. The contact was 100% my fault; in the moment I swear I was fully alongside Wally or potentially even slightly ahead but looking at the replay I was nowhere near that and only just had my nose in and Wally was fully entitled to that apex. I made up a couple of places but pushing hard to catch up I copped a 10 sec penalty so wasn't great.

Race 2 was good hard racing mostly chasing Brad. I had more pace but was no way past and he didn't really any mistakes.

Race 3 was going okay getting up into around 6th but unfortunately ploughed headlong into AB after his spin after the chicane leaving me with red damage all around and a broken windscreen. I lost quite a few places there and my pace was off, but had some good fun close racing until the end.