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« on: January 18, 2018, 06:16:59 PM »
I found an excellent doco covering the history of Can-Am.
Some of the extremes even surprised me (9+l V8 in a 690kg car, ON CROSS-PLIES!!!)
It even has insights from the great innovator himself, Jim Hall.

If you enjoy pre-regulation racing (well, almost), check it out. 8)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/85bz96ubg52t715/Can-Am_The_Speed_Odyssey.7z

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Re: Can-Am
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2018, 06:59:56 PM »
cheers  will watch for sure
Well it's a dog eat dog
Eat cat too

youtube.com/watch?v=h8xNn4td37k

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Re: Can-Am
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2018, 07:01:49 PM »
Thanks Bacchulum looking forward to watching :).
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Re: Can-Am
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2018, 06:07:58 PM »
I watched this great doco today, what a fascinating era of motor sport. 0 to 200 MPH 10, seconds. Faster than the F1 cars of the same year (no wonder we all found them a bit of a handfull) . It has got me fired up to do another  series in these cars, and we now have good versions of Laguna Seca plus some of other tracks. I think there is some other Grp 7 cars also available now as well. The  top F1 drivers really enjoyed driving these cars as well as the F1 cars. Thanks Bacchulum I really enjoyed it :) 8).

This is what I really love about simracing, being able to relive these motorsport historic milestones 8) 8) 8)
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Re: Can-Am
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2018, 08:17:18 PM »
Kind of had you in mind when I posted, roo. ;)

Group 7 was never meant to be regulations to build a car to. ::)
Sports cars were 'grouped' according to engine capacity and weight.
Group 7 was just for cars that didn't comply to any other group, hence no weight limits or capacity limits.
Sure, they were heavier than F1 cars (530kg - 690kg) but McLaren had 8.3 litres - F1's 3 litres. :o

I love the mindset of the drivers at the time:
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It was largely Flegl who created the Porsche 917-30, whose 1100 horsepower, the SCCA bitched, was killing the Can-Am series. Donohue disagreed. “We’re far from having too much horsepower,” he asserted. “My definition of too much horsepower is when all four wheels are spinning in every gear.”
8) ;D 8)

btw
I also have the whole 1971 Watkins Glen race.
I'll upload it if anyone wants it but be warned, there's no DRS so overtaking is low. ;)
(they've even left in some motorsport related ads of the time  ;D )

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Re: Can-Am
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2018, 07:37:11 AM »
I would like to watch it Bacchulum. It really was the pinnacle of Sports Car racing like the turbo era was the pinnacle of F1. They were crazy cars and the drivers and spectators just loved them.
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Re: Can-Am
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2018, 12:37:20 PM »
.... It has got me fired up to do another  series in these cars, ...
....This is what I really love about simracing...

I was thinking we could do the '66 Can Am series every year. We have several variants of the Lola and the M1b/Elva as well as the Chaparral 2E now. (which except for a few outliers is all the cars that ran that season.)
And now that I have sorted out the bumps on the 66 version of Laguna we have a full set of almost period correct tracks.
'We’re far from having too much horsepower…my definition of too much horsepower is when all four wheels are spinning in every gear.'
― Mark Donohue
'Okay, here's 100 litres of fuel; you build whatever you want.'
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Re: Can-Am
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2018, 02:19:03 PM »
.... It has got me fired up to do another  series in these cars, ...
....This is what I really love about simracing...

I was thinking we could do the '66 Can Am series every year. We have several variants of the Lola and the M1b/Elva as well as the Chaparral 2E now. (which except for a few outliers is all the cars that ran that season.)
And now that I have sorted out the bumps on the 66 version of Laguna we have a full set of almost period correct tracks.
That is a great idea Seanus, if we could get a few more of the Tuesday  lady drivers  to come along a get grids of 20+ to get closer to real life grids of 30+, it would be amazing  8).
Comments anyone?
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Re: Can-Am
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2018, 03:03:49 PM »
I like the idea.
BUT....
(a wise-man once said everything before a but is buulshit :-[ :-X )
I'd like to do some of the other tracks they raced on like Road America, Road Atlanta, Mid Ohio, Daytona (I don't think they raced there but I've seen footage of testing, so it counts! >:(), etc.

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Re: Can-Am
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2018, 04:03:58 PM »
Sticking to the sixties;

Road America -available
Edmonton Speedway Park -found a link
Watkins Glen International -available
Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course -available
Michigan International Speedway -I think I have this
Texas World Speedway -can be brought over from rF2

'We’re far from having too much horsepower…my definition of too much horsepower is when all four wheels are spinning in every gear.'
― Mark Donohue
'Okay, here's 100 litres of fuel; you build whatever you want.'
― Adrian Newey

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Re: Can-Am
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2018, 05:49:53 PM »
As the doco shows, the problem with any era of Can-Am is there's always been a dominant car.
Whether it's Chaparral, Lola, McLaren or Porsche, the evolution was so aggressive someone always found an edge.
Any equal series would need to be historically in-accurate.
That doesn't bother me but (there it is again :P) I'd love something more indicative of the 70's, say, the 8.3litre M20 & 917/10k weren't that far apart and had ballistic power/weight. 8) ;D 8)

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Re: Can-Am
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2018, 06:01:56 PM »
Check the Custom Mods Forum. ;D
'We’re far from having too much horsepower…my definition of too much horsepower is when all four wheels are spinning in every gear.'
― Mark Donohue
'Okay, here's 100 litres of fuel; you build whatever you want.'
― Adrian Newey

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Re: Can-Am
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2018, 06:47:59 PM »
Check the Custom Mods Forum. ;D
I don't know where you mean to look. ??? :-\
Link please.

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Re: Can-Am
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2018, 07:11:13 PM »
'We’re far from having too much horsepower…my definition of too much horsepower is when all four wheels are spinning in every gear.'
― Mark Donohue
'Okay, here's 100 litres of fuel; you build whatever you want.'
― Adrian Newey