Xtreme Gaming Network

Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola

Author Topic: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola  (Read 1613 times)

Online Wally

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8041
  • Karma: 125
  • AC Admin
    • View Profile
Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
« on: April 18, 2018, 07:45:45 AM »
Let's try a single hour race (46 laps).

Tyre wear will be 1.5x, to simulate wear over a real life race distance of 1hr30.
Fuel rate is 1.5x.
Tyre warmers will be ON.

No refuelling at pitstops, but you can do whatever you have to do regarding tyres. Refuelling is also allowed.
« Last Edit: April 22, 2018, 09:46:39 AM by Wally »
“You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time”

Online Bacchulum

  • RestrictedRacing
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2322
  • Karma: 70
    • View Profile
Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2018, 05:12:32 PM »
No refuelling at pitstops, but you can do whatever you have to do regarding tyres.
That sux.
I can only get 39.6 laps out of a tank. :(

Offline grat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1134
  • Karma: 16
    • View Profile
Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2018, 06:45:12 PM »
No refuelling at pitstops, but you can do whatever you have to do regarding tyres.
That sux.
I can only get 39.6 laps out of a tank. :(
mmmm,... they still had refuelling back then... didn't they? But still, it's weird the tank is so small... I think I remember they could do a 1 stopper easily. No?

Online Bacchulum

  • RestrictedRacing
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2322
  • Karma: 70
    • View Profile
Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2018, 08:37:10 PM »
Yeah, they had refueling, hence the small tank, but 1-stoppers were track dependent (and F1 drivers have been fuel saving since the '70s).

Online Wally

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8041
  • Karma: 125
  • AC Admin
    • View Profile
Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2018, 11:13:59 AM »
Oh, did they? I thought they didn't. Yeah, banned from 84 to 94, then again from 2010. Looks like we'll have to allow refuelling then.
« Last Edit: April 21, 2018, 11:19:11 AM by Wally »
“You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time”

Offline marty

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3747
  • Karma: -63
    • View Profile
Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2018, 02:27:18 PM »
No refuelling at pitstops, but you can do whatever you have to do regarding tyres.
That sux.
I can only get 39.6 laps out of a tank. :(
mmmm,... they still had refuelling back then... didn't they? But still, it's weird the tank is so small... I think I remember they could do a 1 stopper easily. No?

In 2004 they had an interesting rule where you started the race with the fuel you finished qualy with, I doubt anyone did a 1 stop as they would have to qualify too heavy. 2 and 3 stops were common from what I saw plus Schumacher did win in france by switching to a 4 stopper and running qualy stints to beat Alonso who had track position on him early and it didnt look like he could pass him on track.

They were also the fastest f1 cars until this year but if they were allowed to qualify on light fuel they would still probably hold track records over this years cars as qualifying with 8 to 15 laps of extra fuel was costing them a bit of time in qualy.

Online Wally

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8041
  • Karma: 125
  • AC Admin
    • View Profile
Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2018, 03:46:37 PM »
Hello lurker.
They had some interesting rules then. I hope to have a season where the pit stop strategy actually comes into it for a change.
“You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time”

Offline marty

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3747
  • Karma: -63
    • View Profile
Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2018, 06:13:12 PM »
Hello lurker.
They had some interesting rules then. I hope to have a season where the pit stop strategy actually comes into it for a change.

Did a season in these at ROOZ, strategy choices were fun. We did a couple full gp distances and 2 and 3 stops were both options. A 1 stop would be too slow as running heavy loses heaps of time and a fuel an tyres stop was usually about 20 secomds lost but could be 2 secs per lap faster.

Online Mael

  • RestrictedRacing
  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 560
  • Karma: 16
    • View Profile
Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2018, 10:35:41 PM »
Did a season in these at ROOZ, strategy choices were fun. We did a couple full gp distances and 2 and 3 stops were both options. A 1 stop would be too slow as running heavy loses heaps of time and a fuel an tyres stop was usually about 20 secomds lost but could be 2 secs per lap faster.

Thus after a season with the F2004 Marty can confirm my view that the 1975 cars are a better choice  ;D

Offline grat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1134
  • Karma: 16
    • View Profile
Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2018, 12:05:45 AM »
Did a season in these at ROOZ, strategy choices were fun. We did a couple full gp distances and 2 and 3 stops were both options. A 1 stop would be too slow as running heavy loses heaps of time and a fuel an tyres stop was usually about 20 secomds lost but could be 2 secs per lap faster.

Thus after a season with the F2004 Marty can confirm my view that the 1975 cars are a better choice  ;D
If we have to go historical, I then propose again the Porsche short/long tail thingy... love that car.

Online Wally

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8041
  • Karma: 125
  • AC Admin
    • View Profile
Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2018, 09:47:46 AM »
I've upped the fuel rate to 1.5x, to match RL conditions. This means you can get about 25 laps out of a tank.

In real life, most drivers did 2 or 3
stops in a race.
“You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time”

Online Wally

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8041
  • Karma: 125
  • AC Admin
    • View Profile
Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2018, 10:15:11 AM »
I restarted the practice server with 1.5x tyre and fuel rates.
“You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time”

Online Joe

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1592
  • Karma: 25
    • View Profile
Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2018, 03:55:22 PM »
Is this tonight? Been away just got back

Online Bacchulum

  • RestrictedRacing
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2322
  • Karma: 70
    • View Profile
Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2018, 04:48:27 PM »
Is this tonight? Been away just got back
Yep.
Better get lappin'. ;)

Online rob

  • RestrictedRacing
  • Sr. Member
  • *
  • Posts: 345
  • Karma: 23
    • View Profile
Re: Test run - Ferrari F2004 at Imola
« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2018, 06:22:24 PM »
Hey Wally, I've come down with the mother of all flues.  Definitely won't be there tonight.